₦airaland Forum

DiarisGodoo:
This is a case of both you and quinq being partially right.
Your problem is that you don't realize Africa is very diverse and nothing close to a monolith. Practices common in one part will be totally non-existent in another. While gay was almost non existent amongst pre-colonial Igbos, it was the practice in a tribe like the one below. Traditional Igbo society simply didn't have gays and it was not because there were rules against It or anything. It simply wasn't there.

I am aware of this but my focus is strictly Igbos because you guys are Igbos. Don't try to lie to me its a waste of both of our time. I will simply fall back and dig up the truth. Eventually they all get caught. I believe in freedom of religion in that beliefs are central to bloodline and people don't up and change by force. I don't preach religion to anybody whatever you believe its your business. But don't try to play me I find that offensive. I am never offended by what anyone does because its them doing it not me. I only desire rulership over my own house not yours.

Royaldescent:
I am aware of this but my focus is strictly Igbos because you guys are Igbos. Don't try to lie to me its a waste of both of our time. I will simply fall back and dig up the truth. Eventually they all get caught. I believe in freedom of religion in that beliefs are central to bloodline and people don't up and change by force. I don't preach religion to anybody whatever you believe its your business. But don't try to play me I find that offensive. I am never offended by what anyone does because its them doing it not me. I only desire rulership over my own house not yours.

My brother, what do I gain by convincing you anything about Igbos. You probably know more about them than me who is actually Igbo - all from reading books. Books written by people who also got their information from reading books.
I live in US of A, a country where being gay is nothing. Also many Igbos of today are openly gay. So why will I now be saying there was practically no gayness in traditional Igbo if that's not what I observed? This is something I lived through myself - not books. Have you considered that Igbos have rules about everything and certain things need cleansing the land if they happened. Everything except gay. Total silence on gayness. Can you please tell me why?
Also, just because someone supports Igbos likely coming from Egypt/Israel doesn't mean the person is Igbo. As you can see from screenshots below, DNA is totally useless after a certain amount of time. It is like you can see your house burning but someone, through DNA and mathematical equations, is proving to you that your house is not actually burning. Non of us knows the ultimate truth but living through something is a better way of knowing it than reading it in books.

Royaldescent:
All pagans are sodomites. There was no written record of any law against Sodomy in Sub Shahara Africa. Oral history is unreliable.

Exactly my point. In England people like Oscar Wilde went yo jail for homosexuality. In Nigeria of today you'll go to jail for 14 years for homo. But in pre-colonial Nigeria there was no law against homo because it was never an issue. The issue was that every man wanted as many women as he could get! I'm sure they wished other men were gay so they could have all the women to themselves! If anything they'd have made laws rewarding men to be gay so they could have all the women to themselves!😂

By the way, do you know the unbelievable amounts white men were willing to pay for your great grandmothers?? Watch below

https://youtube.com/shorts/z_qApIkWzh4?is=7d7XQ1AyUKVXGu6b

Royaldescent:
Israelites practiced Sodomy and they performed calf worship. Do you even know what calf worship is? I am a priest I know.

Explain to me what calf worship is and then we can go from there.

Calf worship was idolatry and had
nothing to do with sodomy. There'd have been a specific law against sodomy in the ten Commandments if it were a big issue BEFORE the ten Commandments were given!

I don't know if you ever watched this short below.
Diarisgodoo what u think of it?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cq6IfPTMHXP/?igsh=MTA1cGFzNG94MzQ0cg==

QuinQQ:
Calf worship was idolatry and had
nothing to do with sodomy. There'd have been a specific law against sodomy in the ten Commandments if it were a big issue BEFORE the ten Commandments were given!

The association between Taurus, calves, and bulls is deeply rooted in ancient agricultural history and the return of spring fertility.

Thousands of years ago, humanity’s survival depended entirely on the success of the new farming cycle. Because of this, the cultural connection between Taurus and spring fertility runs incredibly deep:The Age of Taurus (c. 4500 – 2000 BCE)During this ancient era, the Spring Equinox actually occurred while the sun was positioned in the constellation of Taurus. This meant that the "Bull of Heaven" literally ushered in the new agricultural year.

Why the Bull and Calf?The Ultimate Spark: In cultures like ancient Sumer and Babylonia, the bull was revered as a supreme symbol of virility, potent sexual energy, and strength.

The Gift of Life: The birth of calves during this exact season was the ultimate proof of a successful mating period, promising meat, milk, and animals to plow the fields.

Goddesses of Abundance: The constellation was heavily intertwined with fertility deities, such as the Mesopotamian Ishtar (goddess of fertility and sexual love) and the Egyptian Hathor, who was often depicted as a celestial cow.

Now you see what calf worship is and that these pagans including Israelites would perform spring sex rituals to make their crops grow abundantly so that they could make money. That would worship the gods of the land and the Most High which what Christians, Muslims and Jews do who are Freemasons and members of various fraternities, sororities, covenants and cults.

Royaldescent:
Africa had their own cults which did the same acts.

Which Africa? Definitely not Nigeria. If there were a gene of homosexuality it somehow missed precolonial Nigeria. It's amazing that despite so many deities there was none about homosexuality.
In some climes they actually had eunochs and temple male prostitutes, while in Nigeria you saw nothing about homosexuality at all!

Royaldescent:



The association between Taurus, calves, and bulls is deeply rooted in ancient agricultural history and the return of spring fertility.

Thousands of years ago, humanity’s survival depended entirely on the success of the new farming cycle. Because of this, the cultural connection between Taurus and spring fertility runs incredibly deep:The Age of Taurus (c. 4500 – 2000 BCE)During this ancient era, the Spring Equinox actually occurred while the sun was positioned in the constellation of Taurus. This meant that the "Bull of Heaven" literally ushered in the new agricultural year.

Why the Bull and Calf?The Ultimate Spark: In cultures like ancient Sumer and Babylonia, the bull was revered as a supreme symbol of virility, potent sexual energy, and strength.

The Gift of Life: The birth of calves during this exact season was the ultimate proof of a successful mating period, promising meat, milk, and animals to plow the fields.

Goddesses of Abundance: The constellation was heavily intertwined with fertility deities, such as the Mesopotamian Ishtar (goddess of fertility and sexual love) and the Egyptian Hathor, who was often depicted as a celestial cow.

Now you see what calf worship is and that these pagans including Israelites would perform spring sex rituals to make their crops grow abundantly so that they could make money. That would worship the gods of the land and the Most High which what Christians, Muslims and Jews do who are Freemasons and members of various fraternities, sororities, covenants and cults.

Saw what? Where did you say that calf worship meant homosexuality??

DiarisGodoo:
My brother, what do I gain by convincing you anything about Igbos. You probably know more about them than me who is actually Igbo - all from reading books. Books written by people who also got their information from reading books.
I live in US of A, a country where being gay is nothing. Also many Igbos of today are openly gay. So why will I now be saying there was practically no gayness in traditional Igbo if that's not what I observed? This is something I lived through myself - not books. Have you considered that Igbos have rules about everything and certain things need cleansing the land if they happened. Everything except gay. Total silence on gayness. Can you please tell me why?
Also, just because someone supports Igbos likely coming from Egypt/Israel doesn't mean the person is Igbo. As you can see from screenshots below, DNA is totally useless after a certain amount of time. It is like you can see your house burning but someone, through DNA and mathematical equations, is proving to you that your house is not actually burning. Non of us knows the ultimate truth but living through something is a better way of knowing it than reading it in books.

Well-said. I wonder how they don't see that the British would have played it up if there were substantial homo in precolonial Nigeria.
As for DNA, I think sometime in the future they'd find out that a lot of this DNA stuff is bunkum!

Cj4charles:
You totally nailed it here...... don't mind the op

Nailed what exactly. That people should find an excuse to stop taking care of a teenager they've been taking care of since infancy??!

QuinQQ:
Nailed what exactly. That people should find an excuse to stop taking care of a teenager they've been taking care of since infancy??!

delulu
what pannies today?

DMCA:
delulu
what pannies today?

Yaba what would you call this colour? I think I should gain a little weight.
*This is a selfie with my leg "strategically placed"

DiarisGodoo:
My brother, what do I gain by convincing you anything about Igbos. You probably know more about them than me who is actually Igbo - all from reading books. Books written by people who also got their information from reading books.
I live in US of A, a country where being gay is nothing. Also many Igbos of today are openly gay. So why will I now be saying there was practically no gayness in traditional Igbo if that's not what I observed? This is something I lived through myself - not books. Have you considered that Igbos have rules about everything and certain things need cleansing the land if they happened. Everything except gay. Total silence on gayness. Can you please tell me why?
Also, just because someone supports Igbos likely coming from Egypt/Israel doesn't mean the person is Igbo. As you can see from screenshots below, DNA is totally useless after a certain amount of time. It is like you can see your house burning but someone, through DNA and mathematical equations, is proving to you that your house is not actually burning. Non of us knows the ultimate truth but living through something is a better way of knowing it than reading it in books.

Crazy arguments igbos use when dna rules out their claim theyre Israelites

The widespread belief among some Igbo people that they are descendants of a Lost Tribe of Israel—specifically the tribe of Gad or Ephraim—faced a major scientific blow when genetic testing found no Levantine or Semitic markers.When a prominent 2017 study by Jewish Voice Ministries International tested 124 Igbo men and returned completely negative results for Jewish DNA, it sparked an intense online and cultural backlash. Rather than abandoning the theory, vocal proponents of the "Igbo-Jew" connection developed highly creative, scientifically unorthodox, and linguistic counter-arguments to dismiss the DNA findings






1. Radical Linguistic Etymology (Reversing History)When genetics fail, proponents rely heavily on wordplay to assert that Hebrew civilization actually came from Nigeria.The Argument: Proponents claim that the word "Hebrew" is simply a European corruption of the word "Igbo" (Igbo → Heebo → Hebrew).The Logic Used: Activists like Philip Njemanze have claimed that the Hebrew name for God, Yahweh (YHVH), is a mispronunciation of the Igbo phrase "Ya wu ihe" (meaning "He is the light". Academics point out this ignores the fact that Igbo is a Niger-Congo language while Hebrew is Afroasiatic.


2. Epigenetics and "Sun-Induced" DNA MutationSome proponents try to use pseudo-scientific environmental theories to explain away the complete absence of Middle Eastern genetic markers.The Argument: They argue that thousands of years of living in the tropical West African climate fundamentally mutated their original Middle Eastern DNA.The Logic Used: Proponents claim that the intense African sun, diet, and malaria-resistant evolutionary pressures altered not just their skin color, but their core genetic markers, making ancient Israeli genes unrecognizable to modern laboratory kits.

3 Overemphasizing "1% Middle Eastern" ResultsTo counteract the official negative results from major studies, some individuals took commercial, home-use DNA kits and hyper-focused on noise in the data.The Argument: Prominent Igbo authors and activists posted screenshots of personal DNA tests showing tiny trace percentages of Middle Eastern ancestry.The Logic Used: Figures like author Remy Ilona pointed to personal results showing roughly 1.2% Middle Eastern ancestry as absolute scientific confirmation of Israelite migration. Geneticists point out that trace amounts under 2% on commercial DNA tests are typically statistical noise or modern trade-route admixture, not ancient tribal lineage.


4. "Spirituality and Customs Trump Science"For many, cultural practices are treated as a higher, more reliable form of truth than molecular biology.The Argument: Proponents argue that DNA testing is a "white man's trap" designed to delegitimize them, and that their traditions are the true proof.The Logic Used: They point to cultural overlaps—such as circumcising male children on the 8th day, separating women during menstruation, and mourning the dead for seven days—as irrefutable evidence. Proponents argue: "The proof that I am a descendant of the Israelites is Ome na ana (traditional Igbo customs). DNA evidence cannot rule it out." Historians counter that these traits are common across many ancient, independent African cultures.

latieph:
See where the world is heading to
Encouragement of BASTARD is what you CHEATERS are praying for

So it is better to encourage father's to abandon their responsibilities to a teenager they've been raising from birth and spend scarce resources on fishing expeditions??

QuinQQ:
Saw what? Where did you say that calf worship meant homosexuality??

It was orgies. LGBTQ means orgy.

Royaldescent:
It was orgies. LGBTQ means orgy.

How is Fertility connected to LGBTQ?? Isn't it the opposite?

QuinQQ:
How is Fertility connected to LGBTQ?? Isn't it the opposite?

Fertility rituals involved organs or sex magick.

L is female on female

G is men on men

B is both ways

T is role playing opposite sex

Q is does whatever

That is what goes on at fertility rituals to conjure the gods.


This is what Abraham refused to do and many more people who crossed over the burning sands to get to Egypt. If you're saying that you are Hebrew it means those who crossed over or willing to die as many did in the 120 degree desert to remain faithful to God.


Sodomy is the devil's religion.

QuinQQ:
Yaba what would you call this colour? I think I should gain a little weight.
*This is a selfie with my leg "strategically placed"

delulu I call it dawadawa black?
I come again tomorrow

QuinQQ:
Well-said. I wonder how they don't see that the British would have played it up if there were substantial homo in precolonial Nigeria.
As for DNA, I think sometime in the future they'd find out that a lot of this DNA stuff is bunkum!

Britain would have pounced on it. Their "Public schools" were incubators of gays.
People love what they don't quite understand, like DNA.

QuinQQ:
Exactly my point. In England people like Oscar Wilde went yo jail for homosexuality. In Nigeria of today you'll go to jail for 14 years for homo. But in pre-colonial Nigeria there was no law against homo because it was never an issue. The issue was that every man wanted as many women as he could get! I'm sure they wished other men were gay so they could have all the women to themselves! If anything they'd have made laws rewarding men to be gay so they could have all the women to themselves!😂

By the way, do you know the unbelievable amounts white men were willing to pay for your great grandmothers?? Watch below

https://youtube.com/shorts/z_qApIkWzh4?is=7d7XQ1AyUKVXGu6b

They paid $80,000 for light-skinned black girls! Specifically girls not boys o.
I wonder what they were they doing with them

Royaldescent:
Crazy arguments igbos use when dna rules out their claim theyre Israelites

The widespread belief among some Igbo people that they are descendants of a Lost Tribe of Israel—specifically the tribe of Gad or Ephraim—faced a major scientific blow when genetic testing found no Levantine or Semitic markers.When a prominent 2017 study by Jewish Voice Ministries International tested 124 Igbo men and returned completely negative results for Jewish DNA, it sparked an intense online and cultural backlash. Rather than abandoning the theory, vocal proponents of the "Igbo-Jew" connection developed highly creative, scientifically unorthodox, and linguistic counter-arguments to dismiss the DNA findings






1. Radical Linguistic Etymology (Reversing History)When genetics fail, proponents rely heavily on wordplay to assert that Hebrew civilization actually came from Nigeria.The Argument: Proponents claim that the word "Hebrew" is simply a European corruption of the word "Igbo" (Igbo → Heebo → Hebrew).The Logic Used: Activists like Philip Njemanze have claimed that the Hebrew name for God, Yahweh (YHVH), is a mispronunciation of the Igbo phrase "Ya wu ihe" (meaning "He is the light". Academics point out this ignores the fact that Igbo is a Niger-Congo language while Hebrew is Afroasiatic.


2. Epigenetics and "Sun-Induced" DNA MutationSome proponents try to use pseudo-scientific environmental theories to explain away the complete absence of Middle Eastern genetic markers.The Argument: They argue that thousands of years of living in the tropical West African climate fundamentally mutated their original Middle Eastern DNA.The Logic Used: Proponents claim that the intense African sun, diet, and malaria-resistant evolutionary pressures altered not just their skin color, but their core genetic markers, making ancient Israeli genes unrecognizable to modern laboratory kits.

3 Overemphasizing "1% Middle Eastern" ResultsTo counteract the official negative results from major studies, some individuals took commercial, home-use DNA kits and hyper-focused on noise in the data.The Argument: Prominent Igbo authors and activists posted screenshots of personal DNA tests showing tiny trace percentages of Middle Eastern ancestry.The Logic Used: Figures like author Remy Ilona pointed to personal results showing roughly 1.2% Middle Eastern ancestry as absolute scientific confirmation of Israelite migration. Geneticists point out that trace amounts under 2% on commercial DNA tests are typically statistical noise or modern trade-route admixture, not ancient tribal lineage.


4. "Spirituality and Customs Trump Science"For many, cultural practices are treated as a higher, more reliable form of truth than molecular biology.The Argument: Proponents argue that DNA testing is a "white man's trap" designed to delegitimize them, and that their traditions are the true proof.The Logic Used: They point to cultural overlaps—such as circumcising male children on the 8th day, separating women during menstruation, and mourning the dead for seven days—as irrefutable evidence. Proponents argue: "The proof that I am a descendant of the Israelites is Ome na ana (traditional Igbo customs). DNA evidence cannot rule it out." Historians counter that these traits are common across many ancient, independent African cultures.

If people only knew how foolish this is. A case of people doing what they don't know. 50% of Igbos are not indigenous to Igbo land yet they speak Igbo and are considered Igbo. Example, Onitsha people came from Benin Kingdom. So whose DNA were they testing? Add to that, the fact that DNA is a bit of pseudoscience on a large scale.

Question: "Eri" has no meaning in Igbo Language. Yet every village in Igbo land has a section called "Umu Eri" which translates to "Eri"s children" and that also is the name of the reputed first town in Igbo land. it has been so for thousands of years - long before foreigners came.
Where did that come from?

DiarisGodoo:
If people only knew how foolish this is. A case of people doing what they don't know. 50% of Igbos are not indigenous to Igbo land yet they speak Igbo and are considered Igbo. Example, Onitsha people came from Benin Kingdom. So whose DNA were they testing? Add to that, the fact that DNA is a bit of pseudoscience on a large scale.

Question: "Eri" has no meaning in Igbo Language. Yet every village in Igbo land has a section called "Umu Eri" which translates to "Eri"s children" and that also is the name of the reputed first town in Igbo land. it has been so for thousands of years - long before foreigners came.
Where did that come from?

The obscure words in Igbo language has nothing to do with proving or disproving the Igbo claim of being Israelites. Most Creoles are different ethnicities of French but you label us are mixed race yet here you are telling me that Igbos are mixed with Onitsha. That is because Benin Kingdom enslaved Igbos and made their women concubines. You think I don't know about the powerful Benin Empire? There are Igbo historians talking about the bullying and oppression of Benin towards Igbos.

You weaponize race which is a made up idolatrous caste term, there is no such thing as race. It's just bloodline. That's what DNA is, studying the bloodline of fathers and the bloodline of mothers.

The de France goes back to King Louis all the way to Clovis de France the first unified King of the Franks. Our bloodline is J2 which means we are Mediterranean men like Greeks, Turks, Italians, Romans, Phoenicians, some Indians, Hebrews and North Africans. We all share common male ancestors. We are inherently tan skinned with dark hair but our appearance can change when the mother is different produces dark or fair skinned Creoles.Because our empires stretched so vast we overextended and the empire collapsed. We accept we are Creoles now and as far as I know Creoles seem to be quite happy about their identity.

As I said before Igbos and their descendants African Americans are the ones suffering identity crisis because of slavery.

DMCA:
delulu I call it dawadawa black?
I come again tomorrow

I always wear it near my period ending
Sleep tight, ignore the bed bugs

DiarisGodoo:
They paid $80,000 for light-skinned black girls! Specifically girls not boys o.
I wonder what they were they doing with them

Yes, Royaldescent what did they do with them girls?

DiarisGodoo:
Britain would have pounced on it. Their "Public schools" were incubators of gays.
People love what they don't quite understand, like DNA.

Britain, full of homos, must havr been very disappointed there was virtually no homosexuality in Nigeria

QuinQQ:
Yes, Royaldescent what did they do with them girls?

Nothing more than Benin Onitsha did to Igbo girls. Than English did to Scottish girls. Not all Creoles came from such circumstances, not all Igbos came from such circumstance, not all Scottish came from such circumstances.


the capture and assimilation of women—including Igbo girls—into the royal court and elite households as concubines (iloi or non-titular wives) was a direct dynamic of the Benin Empire’s domestic slavery system.In pre-colonial West African warfare and statecraft, the intersection of gender, forced captivity, and concubinage operated differently than transatlantic chattel slavery.


1. Royal Harem Integration (Eguae)The Oba (king) of Benin and high-ranking chiefs maintained extensive royal harems.War Spoils and Tributes: During Benin’s expansion into Western Igbo territories (the Anioma regions), captured young women and girls were often brought back to the capital. They were integrated into the royal court or gifted to loyal chiefs as a reward for military or administrative service.

The Blur Between Concubine and Wife: In Edo tradition, once a captive woman entered the palace harem, she was placed under strict protocols. While her entry was forced, her status could shift. If she gave birth to a child, her societal status elevated significantly.

2. Status of Children born to Captive WomenUnlike the generational slavery practiced in the Americas, domestic slavery and concubinage in West Africa rarely passed down to offspring.

Lineage Absorption: Children born to an Igbo concubine and an Edo nobleman or the Oba were considered free-born citizens of the Benin Kingdom.Political Continuity: Because the child took the lineage of the father, the offspring of these unions became fully integrated Edo people, completely dissolving their legal status as "slaves."

3. Diplomatic Marriages vs. Forced CaptivityIt is vital to distinguish between enslaved concubines and diplomatic wives:Forced Captives: Girls taken during border raids or localized skirmishes were stripped of their autonomy and treated as domestic property or concubines.

Royaldescent:
The obscure words in Igbo language has nothing to do with proving or disproving the Igbo claim of being Israelites. Most Creoles are different ethnicities of French but you label us are mixed race yet here you are telling me that Igbos are mixed with Onitsha. That is because Benin Kingdom enslaved Igbos and made their women concubines. You think I don't know about the powerful Benin Empire? There are Igbo historians talking about the bullying and oppression of Benin towards Igbos.

You weaponize race which is a made up idolatrous caste term, there is no such thing as race. It's just bloodline. That's what DNA is, studying the bloodline of fathers and the bloodline of mothers.

The de France goes back to King Louis all the way to Clovis de France the first unified King of the Franks. Our bloodline is J2 which means we are Mediterranean men like Greeks, Turks, Italians, Romans, Phoenicians, some Indians, Hebrews and North Africans. We all share common male ancestors. We are inherently tan skinned with dark hair but our appearance can change when the mother is different produces dark or fair skinned Creoles.Because our empires stretched so vast we overextended and the empire collapsed. We accept we are Creoles now and as far as I know Creoles seem to be quite happy about their identity.

As I said before Igbos and their descendants African Americans are the ones suffering identity crisis because of slavery.

If it were just this and just words I'd be on your side too - I'd say the Igbos are talking pure nonsense.
But it is a whole constellation of all sorts of things, both big and small!

Please stop comparing Nigerian tribes to Creoles. One started some 3 to 400 years ago and is sort of man-made. The other is thousands and thousands of years old and grew organically

QuinQQ:
If it were just this and words I'd be on your side too - I'd say the Igbos are talking pure nonsense.
But it is a whole constellation of all sorts of things, both big and small!

Please stop comparing Nigerian tribes to Creoles.One started some 3 to 400 years ago and is sort of man-made. The other is thousands and thousands of years old and grew organically

Nonsense. Your comparison is mute. You can't diminish a distinct culture just because its only a few centuries old whilst you cut the rest off as a white race history. You love being racist or weaponizing race to make Creoles small. You want us to be bronze members whilst reserving the platinum gold status of fully African for yourselves but then jump ship to the Middle East to claim Hebrew.. I will sink you battle carrier and the whole fleet with truth.

Royaldescent:
Nonsense. Your comparison is mute. You can't diminish a distinct culture just because its only a few centuries old whilst you cut the rest off as a white race history. You love being racist or weaponizing race to make Creoles small. You want us to be bronze members whilst reserving the platinum gold status of fully African for yourselves but then jump ship to the Middle East to claim Hebrew.. I will sink you battle carrier and the whole fleet with truth.

Yes, TRUTH! Stop LYING! There is nothing small in being Creole or African American. It is your own internal insecurities that make you feel small unless you attach yourself to slavers and rapists from France!

About Igbos, you actually have it backwards. When Onisha people ran from us and ran to the Igbos, they were lucky the Igbos were welcoming and did not chase them back accross the Niger where we were waiting. But it all worked out fine in the end. Get your facts right before commenting. Google is still free

QuinQQ:
Yes, TRUTH! Stop LYING! There is nothing small in being Creole or African American. It is your own internal insecurities that make you feel small unless you attach yourself to slavers and rapists from France!

About Igbos, you actually have it backwards. When Onisha people ran from us and ran to the Igbos, they were lucky the Igbos were welcoming and did not chase them back accross the Niger where we were waiting. But it all worked out fine in the end. Get your facts right before commenting. Google is still free

You love to be racist towards Creoles and label every single one a victim of white French. There are no white people in the 16th and 17th century. Likewise there are no black people in the the 16th and 17th century. These are race invented terms that came with the 19th century. That Code de Nior you love to quote is an edited version after the French Revolution and the Grand Blanc or pale skin peasants took over France. You're entirely dependent upon Google AI with its highly censored programming for your info.

I always knew that Benin Kingdom enslaved Igbos and there's other Igbos speaking on it. You're the only one that I ever meet that denies that Igbos were a conquered people living in fear of its powerful neighbors. What surprises me from this interaction was learning the depth of how Igbos enslaved themselves and sold their own to total strangers. I wanted to believe it was the other Kingdoms that traded Igbos.



And this rape thing you keep throwing up against Creoles that is more true for your people than mine. I am a de France and everyone knows me. My family is known across secret societies, monarchs, celebrities and elites all over the world. My y DNA is the same from thousands of years ago back to your coveted Middle East. But if you are saying that Igbos are Israelites but you have the y DNA of Sub Saharan African men then that means your people were raped or your women concubines. Igbo men are 99 percent E1ba1a Sub Saharan African haplagroup. And lets take African Americans whom most are your people look at how they have been raped to where most are R1b male haplagroup of the British, Scotts and Irish. Rape doesn't apply to my story but it does to the Igbo story. You were slaves in Africa and slaves in the New World. My forefathers were royalty in France and free people in the new world. And as I pointed out there are other Creole families who came from French royalty too.

Some free people of color came from french nobles and not slave rape or placage ?

Google AI you love so much answers.

You are entirely correct. The history of the gens de couleur libres (free people of color) is frequently oversimplified into narratives of trauma or institutionalized concubinage like plaçage. In reality, a significant segment of this population traced their lineage directly to legitimate marriages, recognized European nobility, and African royalty or diplomats who arrived in territories like Louisiana and the Caribbean as fully free individuals.The diverse origins of free people of color outside of exploitative dynamics include the following pathways:

1. Direct Descent from French and European NobilitySeveral prominent figures of color were the recognized, legally protected children of French aristocrats and wealthy landowners. They were often sent to France to be educated at elite institutions and inherited vast fortunes and titles.

General Thomas-Alexandre Dumas: Born in Saint-Domingue, he was the son of the French nobleman Marquis Alexandre Antoine Davy de la Pailleterie and an enslaved woman, Marie-Cessette Dumas. The Marquis brought his son to France, legally recognized him, and educated him as a nobleman. He rose to become a high-ranking general in the French Revolutionary Army and was the father of the famous author Alexandre Dumas.

Chevalier de Saint-Georges (Joseph Bologne): A legendary champion fencer, virtuoso violinist, and conductor, he was the son of a wealthy French planter and colonial official, Georges de Bologne Saint-Georges. He was raised with all the privileges of the French aristocracy and served as a cousin and confidant to French elites.

2. African Royalty and Diplomatic FreedomNot all people of African descent in the colonies arrived via the slave trade. Some were visiting dignitaries, merchants, or foreign students from West African ruling classes.African Princes: The French government and various missionary groups routinely brought the children of West African kings and nobility to Paris to study at French universities to foster diplomatic and trade alliances.

Free Immigrants: Under early maritime laws and the French Code Noir, certain individuals of African descent arrived in colonial ports like New Orleans already holding the status of free subjects of the French King.

3. Legitimate Marriages and Early Cross-Cultural AlliancesWhile later colonial laws attempted to ban interracial marriage, early colonial periods—especially under initial French and Spanish rules—saw legitimate, church-sanctioned marriages between European colonists, Native Americans, and free or manumitted Black people.Intermarriages: Families generated from these early legal unions formed the foundational core of the Afro-Creole elite. They passed down generational wealth, land, and legal freedom to their children completely independent of the plaçage system.

The "Free Born" Class: By the late 18th and early 19th centuries, the majority of the wealthy gens de couleur libres in cities like New Orleans were born to parents who had both been free for multiple generations.

4. Self-Purchase and Trade MasteryMany individuals achieved freedom solely through their own labor, economic intelligence, and the legal framework of coartación (a Spanish legal system that allowed enslaved people to pay a fixed price for their own freedom in installments)

.Artisans and Entrepreneurs: Enslaved individuals who were master carpenters, blacksmiths, wigmakers, and merchants marketed their skills during their free time, accumulated capital, and purchased their own freedom and that of their families.



Jean Baptiste Point du Sable founder of Chicago, Illinois is a Creole.

Royaldescent:
You love to be racist towards Creoles and label every single one a victim of white French. There are no white people in the 16th and 17th century. Likewise there are no black people in the the 16th and 17th century. These are race invented terms that came with the 19th century. That Code de Nior you love to quote is an edited version after the French Revolution and the Grand Blanc or pale skin peasants took over France. You're entirely dependent upon Google AI with its highly censored programming for your info.

I always knew that Benin Kingdom enslaved Igbos and there's other Igbos speaking on it. You're the only one that I ever meet that denies that Igbos were a conquered people living in fear of its powerful neighbors. What surprises me from this interaction was learning the depth of how Igbos enslaved themselves and sold their own to total strangers. I wanted to believe it was the other Kingdoms that traded Igbos.



And this rape thing you keep throwing up against Creoles that is more true for your people than mine. I am a de France and everyone knows me. My family is known across secret societies, monarchs, celebrities and elites all over the world. My y DNA is the same from thousands of years ago back to your coveted Middle East. But if you are saying that Igbos are Israelites but you have the y DNA of Sub Saharan African men then that means your people were raped or your women concubines. Igbo men are 99 percent E1ba1a Sub Saharan African haplagroup. And lets take African Americans whom most are your people look at how they have been raped to where most are R1b male haplagroup of the British, Scotts and Irish. Rape doesn't apply to my story but it does to the Igbo story. You were slaves in Africa and slaves in the New World. My forefathers were royalty in France and free people in the new world. And as I pointed out there are other Creole families who came from French royalty too.

Some free people of color came from french nobles and not slave rape or placage ?

Google AI you love so much answers.

You are entirely correct. The history of the gens de couleur libres (free people of color) is frequently oversimplified into narratives of trauma or institutionalized concubinage like plaçage. In reality, a significant segment of this population traced their lineage directly to legitimate marriages, recognized European nobility, and African royalty or diplomats who arrived in territories like Louisiana and the Caribbean as fully free individuals.The diverse origins of free people of color outside of exploitative dynamics include the following pathways:

1. Direct Descent from French and European NobilitySeveral prominent figures of color were the recognized, legally protected children of French aristocrats and wealthy landowners. They were often sent to France to be educated at elite institutions and inherited vast fortunes and titles.

General Thomas-Alexandre Dumas: Born in Saint-Domingue, he was the son of the French nobleman Marquis Alexandre Antoine Davy de la Pailleterie and an enslaved woman, Marie-Cessette Dumas. The Marquis brought his son to France, legally recognized him, and educated him as a nobleman. He rose to become a high-ranking general in the French Revolutionary Army and was the father of the famous author Alexandre Dumas.

Chevalier de Saint-Georges (Joseph Bologne): A legendary champion fencer, virtuoso violinist, and conductor, he was the son of a wealthy French planter and colonial official, Georges de Bologne Saint-Georges. He was raised with all the privileges of the French aristocracy and served as a cousin and confidant to French elites.

2. African Royalty and Diplomatic FreedomNot all people of African descent in the colonies arrived via the slave trade. Some were visiting dignitaries, merchants, or foreign students from West African ruling classes.African Princes: The French government and various missionary groups routinely brought the children of West African kings and nobility to Paris to study at French universities to foster diplomatic and trade alliances.

Free Immigrants: Under early maritime laws and the French Code Noir, certain individuals of African descent arrived in colonial ports like New Orleans already holding the status of free subjects of the French King.

3. Legitimate Marriages and Early Cross-Cultural AlliancesWhile later colonial laws attempted to ban interracial marriage, early colonial periods—especially under initial French and Spanish rules—saw legitimate, church-sanctioned marriages between European colonists, Native Americans, and free or manumitted Black people.Intermarriages: Families generated from these early legal unions formed the foundational core of the Afro-Creole elite. They passed down generational wealth, land, and legal freedom to their children completely independent of the plaçage system.

The "Free Born" Class: By the late 18th and early 19th centuries, the majority of the wealthy gens de couleur libres in cities like New Orleans were born to parents who had both been free for multiple generations.

4. Self-Purchase and Trade MasteryMany individuals achieved freedom solely through their own labor, economic intelligence, and the legal framework of coartación (a Spanish legal system that allowed enslaved people to pay a fixed price for their own freedom in installments)

.Artisans and Entrepreneurs: Enslaved individuals who were master carpenters, blacksmiths, wigmakers, and merchants marketed their skills during their free time, accumulated capital, and purchased their own freedom and that of their families.



Jean Baptiste Point du Sable founder of Chicago, Illinois is a Creole.

This is about the most convoluted thing I have ever read on Nairaland!
This is what happens when you consciously choose to base your view of yourself on LIES instead of accepting who you are and realizing that circumstances of your birth and ancestry are NOT your fault!

Here are some FACTS:
■1) ALL Louisiana Creoles of Color have Afrcan blood (especially YOU )
■2) ALL the African blood is from white men having sex with African women
■3) NONE of the sex was within marriage (what is defined as "bastard"
■4) Almost ALL the sex was rape or coercive
■5) In the begining almost ALL the African women were enslaved, meaning their mixed children (Creoles) were born into slavery.
■6) Black Code (Code Noir) which wa hated by all, was enacted by France in 1685 - 200 years before you say Britain invented race!
■7) Another big LIE: the French Revolutionaries actually FREED all slaves. France reinstated slavery after they were ousted in 1799
■8} Louisiana Creoles Of Color are very different from Creoles from places like Haiti. Meaning of "Creole" is different
■9) I wish I could say my people enslaved Igbos but that would be a lie. See below
■10) Our people who ran to Igbo land (Onicha) were fully accepted by the the Igbos and are today not only fully Igbo but are the most militantly patriotic of the Igbos!

QuinQQ:
I always wear it near my period ending
Sleep tight, ignore the bed bugs

coming to think of am, that position wey u set no bad at all
very athletic looking for my favorite type of gymnastics
delulu is still on dawadawa black today

QuinQQ:
This is about the most convoluted thing I have ever read on Nairaland!
This is what happens when you consciously choose to base your view of yourself on LIES instead of accepting who you are and realizing that circumstances of your birth and ancestry are NOT your fault!

Here are some FACTS:
■1) ALL Louisiana Creoles of Color have Afrcan blood (especially YOU )
■2) ALL the African blood is from white men having sex with African women
■3) NONE of the sex was within marriage (what is defined as "bastard"
■4) Almost ALL the sex was rape or coercive
■5) In the begining almost ALL the African women were enslaved, meaning their mixed children (Creoles) were born into slavery.
■6) Black Code (Code Noir) which wa hated by all, was enacted by France in 1685 - 200 years before you say Britain invented race!
■7) Another big LIE: the French Revolutionaries actually FREED all slaves. France reinstated slavery after they were ousted in 1799
■8} Louisiana Creoles Of Color are very different from Creoles from places like Haiti. Meaning of "Creole" is different
■9) I wish I could say my people enslaved Igbos but that would be a lie. See below
■10) Our people who ran to Igbo land (Onicha) were fully accepted by the the Igbos and are today not only fully Igbo but are the most militantly patriotic of the Igbos!

You're always emphasizing African blood. Yet you are always being racist towards Creoles but you want to make us apart of the African race as bottom members beneath you. This should not escape anyone reading this. There is no African race or race of Africans. Africa is instead a continent of recognized dostinct groups like every other continent has distinct groups.

Creoles are a recognized distinct group that did not begin upon the African continent instead we began abroad from thousands of years ago from various groups mostly Mediterranean base. Majority of the Creole men that form the core group of Creoles are G2a, J1 and J2 haplagroup and the women are mostly Indigenous American, European and Sub Saharan African. And since we are a patriachical culture taking from our French and Spanish heritage we are not defined by the standards of African Americans or enslaved Africans who sit primarily as matriarchal cultures. Creoles are primarily Catholics a religion that goes back to Clovis de France the first unified King of all Franks.

1. Creioes are not Igbos, Yorubas or any African recognized ethnicity.

2. Creoles do not speak any African languages.

3. Creoles are not born into or raised up in any African traditions or cultures.

4. Creoles are not born upon African soil nor are our dead buried there in any of the cherished traditions that signify a specific ethnicity.

5. Creoles do not dress in African attire and identify in any symbolize fashion that would define a specific bonafide African ethnicity.

6. Creoles as a collective do not worship any African traditional faiths.

Perfect.