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Iyobaba:
I'm utterly bewildered by your singular perspective.

Are you not bewildered by you own singular view?

Below is what Ted said.

“I held a hearing today in which experts established that the Muslim Brotherhood and DSA communists are [i]united by a shared hatred of America, Israel, Western civilization, capitalism, and democracy, and a revolutionary objective to overthrow the U.S. Constitution,” Cruz said on X.[/i]

Some said the exact same thing here about dump. After all, his Jan6 insurrection was damaging to Western civilization, and capitalism, and democracy, and was a revolutionary objective to overthrow the U.S. Constitution. Do you agree with this view?

Again, you keep bringing different topics not remotely connected to the current discourse.

I think what you disagree with here is Ted Cruz and not what the counterterrorism analyst had to say.

budaatum:
Are you not bewildered by you own singular view?

Below is what Ted said.

“I held a hearing today in which experts established that the Muslim Brotherhood and DSA communists are [i]united by a shared hatred of America, Israel, Western civilization, capitalism, and democracy, and a revolutionary objective to overthrow the U.S. Constitution,” Cruz said on X.[/i]

Some said the exact same thing here about dump. After all, his Jan6 insurrection was damaging to Western civilization, and capitalism, and democracy, and was a revolutionary objective to overthrow the U.S. Constitution. Do you agree with this view?

Iyobaba:
Again, you keep bringing different topics not remotely connected to the current discourse.

I think what you disagree with here is Ted Cruz and not what the counterterrorism analyst had to say.

So what gives this "counterterrorist analyst" an expertise, authority or any credibility in this field that I should take his word as Gospel or even believe what he says?
I'm sure you researched him right?

If Ted Crux brings a witness to the table, that says something dubious like this, you can take it to the bank it's most likely a mal actor.

A useless leader and president..

This is the god and savior of many..

Trump has nothing to deliver but his certificates of being a pdf, sexual offender and a felon.

I'm still bamboozled by the first paragraph of your argument. I'll attempt to draw similarities by making it simpler:
It's like saying what expertise or authority does a psychologist have in relations to mental health. I believe you can see the premise of your argument is deeply flawed.
I'll reiterate, I don't think you and the other guy have an issue with the report except the fact that Ted Cruz was mentioned in the conversation.

IjeBos:
So what gives this "counterterrorist analyst" an expertise, authority or any credibility in this field that I should take his word as Gospel or even believe what he says?
I'm sure you researched him right?

If Ted Crux brings a witness to the table, that says something dubious like this, you can take it to the bank it's most likely a mal actor.

White Republican man gets offended when his lady is racially profiled by ICE.

He thought they would only go after criminals but according to ICE, brown skin equals criminal.

Conservatives can only feel empathy when something happens to them. He can fcx off

Texas businessman John Gannon says he feels "totally betrayed" after his Venezuelan fiancée, Yasmin Suarez Reyes, was detained by ICE at Houston's international airport.

A lifelong Republican who says he voted for President Trump, Gannon told CBS News' Camilo Montoya-Galvez he now regrets that decision, saying, "I wouldn't do that again after this fiasco."

"I would never have thought the United States would act this way. Go after the criminals. We're all for that. But leave the mom and pops and the kids alone," Gannon said.

Suarez Reyes' immigration attorney said her client was arrested despite entering the U.S. legally, having a pending immigration case and lacking a criminal record.

Konkoja:
One would think COVID-19 only happened in America with this nonsense. This is only because Fauci didn't bow to their demigod and kiss his ass as they all do.

They’re very ridiculous people

One day Covid is just like a flu and the left is just being dramatic by asking them to protect themselves and others.

The next day, Fauci is a villain who created a deadly virus and killed millions of Americans.

They can’t seem to use their brain in a consistent manner.

Iyobaba:
I'm still bamboozled by the first paragraph of your argument. I'll attempt to draw similarities by making it simpler:
It's like saying what expertise or authority does a psychologist have in relations to mental health. I believe you can see the premise of your argument is deeply flawed.
I'll reiterate, I don't think you and the other guy have an issue with the report except the fact that Ted Cruz was mentioned in the conversation.

1.) Bamboozled is the wrong word choice. The connotation is wrong for your usage. You meant 'confused' but I'm sure you wanted to sound grandiloquent but instead chose the wrong word.

2.) Most Psychologists are licensed and have professional and educational qualifications. Is a "counterterrorist analyst" licensed? Again, what makes him someone I should listen to? What made him someone you chose to listen to?
I think the premises of one of our arguments is flawed and it's not mine.

3.)No, I have an issue with someone posting nonsense just because another nonsense individual said something and called himself an authority on it.
Let's try it this way:
I'm a "people who aren't real counterterorrist analyst" analyst. And I'm telling you that he is mostly bullshit.
Now since I've crowned myself an analyst in this, what I say is Gospel right?
Make sense to you now?

cococandy:
White Republican man gets offended when his lady is racially profiled by ICE.

He thought they would only go after criminals but according to ICE, brown skin equals criminal.

Conservatives can only feel empathy when something happens to them. He can fcx off

They’re about to FAFO!!😁

Is it that some humans are just mumu or what?

Anyone who knows Trump and his agenda would know he was gonna go after legal immigration and everything immigration..

bayelsaowei:
Is it that some humans are just mumu or what?

Anyone who knows Trump and his agenda would know he was gonna go after legal immigration and everything immigration..

Dumabsses

If you feel minute with the fact that I used certain words, I think you're far from the point. FYI, Bamboozled also means confused, if you don't know that then you need to upgrade your diction.

Kyle Shideler was called to testify as an expert witness based on his specialized focus in policy research, threat analysis, and long-standing focus on domestic and foreign ideological networks.

He serves as the Director and Senior Analyst for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism at the Center for Security Policy (CSP), a Washington, D.C.

He has routinely briefed senior U.S. government officials, members of Congress, state attorneys general, and federal/local law enforcement agencies on extremist networks and counterterrorism strategies.

Shideler has spent over a decade researching, writing, and analyzing the operational structures, history, and doctrines of Islamist groups and front organizations operating within the United States.

In fewer terse, you don't have a problem with the report, what you've a problem with is TEd Cruz.

IjeBos:
1.) Bamboozled is the wrong word choice. The connotation is wrong for your usage. You meant 'confused' but I'm sure you wanted to sound grandiloquent but instead chose the wrong word.

2.) Most Psychologists are licensed and have professional and educational qualifications. Is a "counterterrorist analyst" licensed? Again, what makes him someone I should listen to? What made him someone you chose to listen to?
I think the premises of one of our arguments is flawed and it's not mine.

3.)No, I have an issue with someone posting nonsense just because another nonsense individual said something and called himself an authority on it.
Let's try it this way:
I'm a "people who aren't real counterterorrist analyst" analyst. And I'm telling you that he is mostly bullshit.
Now since I've crowned myself an analyst in this, what I say is Gospel right?
Make sense to you now?

Iyobaba:
Again, you keep bringing different topics not remotely connected to the current discourse.

I think what you disagree with here is Ted Cruz and not what the counterterrorism analyst had to say.

Yes. I do keep bringing different topics, thanks for noticing. Unlike some who's minds might be boxed, mine is outside the town at least.

I do disagree with Ted Cruz because Ted Cruz has a view that is biased to promote this false belief he has. He's like our Enoch Powell, who ranted rivers of blood against black immigrants taking over Britain. We do it in Nigeria too, scaring that Islam is going to take over Enugu, when no one can take my own from worshipping Ogun. But that's not what I have against the anti-Islam rhetoric of Ted Cruz and his like. Just ask ben, he'd tell you his understanding, while mine is not being able to stand the bigotry. It's like Ogun worshippers claiming to take over from Sango worshippers so let's hate each other, which is so unmytribe, apart from my dislike of the control the hatred is designed to engineer.

Fact is, they may well take over, if you are that weak. I mean, seriously? Brotherhood? When China is rising? But to take over they must align with those who help them achieve their goals. Or would you argue the white nationalist don't have wings in both parties like the Brotherhood would? And that's why any one who doesn't want to be taken over should stand up to defend the Constitution of the United States of America instead of letting dump dump all over what makes America great, is what I think, since I doubt you'd wake up one morning and suddenly find the Supreme Court filled with ayatollahs of course, a fear I'd think is irrational.

Incidentally, I got to a paragraph in Deng Ming Dao's Chronicles of Tao. It's the middle one.

Finally, you admit you've a thing against Cruz, that's understandable but discrediting a renowned analyst because of Cruz's bigotry or bias is what I'm against.

There are several well armed white militia groups within the US like the Patriots front and Active club, if someone or a Demo brings up a report support this notion, it shouldn't matter as long as the report is accurate.

budaatum:
Yes. I do keep bringing different topics, thanks for noticing. Unlike some who's minds might be boxed, mine is outside the town at least.

I do disagree with Ted Cruz because Ted Cruz has a view that is biased to promote this false belief he has. He's like our Enoch Powell, who ranted rivers of blood against black immigrants taking over Britain. We do it in Nigeria too, scaring that Islam is going to take over Enugu, when no one can take my own from worshipping Ogun. But that's not what I have against the anti-Islam rhetoric of Ted Cruz and his like. Just ask ben, he'd tell you his understanding, while mine is not being able to stand the bigotry. It's like Ogun worshippers claiming to take over from Sango worshippers so let's hate each other, which is so unmytribe, apart from my dislike of the control the hatred is designed to engineer.

Fact is, they may well take over, if you are that weak. I mean, seriously? Brotherhood? When China is rising? But to take over they must align with those who help them achieve their goals. Or would you argue the white nationalist don't have wings in both parties like the Brotherhood would? And that's why any one who doesn't want to be taken over should stand up to defend the Constitution of the United States of America instead of letting dump dump all over what makes America great, is what I think, since I doubt you'd wake up one morning and suddenly find the Supreme Court filled with ayatollahs of course, a fear I'd think is irrational.

Incidentally, I got to a paragraph in Deng Ming Dao's Chronicles of Tao. It's the middle one.

I've been wondering why maga been uncomfortable lately.

https://www.wired.com/story/maga-is-in-turmoil-over-tucker-carlsons-possible-2028-presidential-bid/

Iyobaba:
If you feel minute with the fact that I used certain words, I think you're far from the point. FYI, Bamboozled also means confused, if you don't know that then you need to upgrade your diction.

Kyle Shideler was called to testify as an expert witness based on his specialized focus in policy research, threat analysis, and long-standing focus on domestic and foreign ideological networks.

He serves as the Director and Senior Analyst for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism at the Center for Security Policy (CSP), a Washington, D.C.

He has routinely briefed senior U.S. government officials, members of Congress, state attorneys general, and federal/local law enforcement agencies on extremist networks and counterterrorism strategies.

Shideler has spent over a decade researching, writing, and analyzing the operational structures, history, and doctrines of Islamist groups and front organizations operating within the United States.

In fewer terse, you don't have a problem with the report, what you've a problem with is TEd Cruz.

1.) Again, bamboozled was the wrong word choice. It may mean confused, but it's connotation (I'm helping you with new words) is confusion based on trickery.

2.) Now you're getting there. Let's go further.
a.) What is the CISP? What think tank is that and what is their background?
b.) What senior US government officials, members of Congress and state attorneys has he briefed.
c.) What research and writing has he done?

3.) You were bamboozled but not by me.
This is the playbook of the right and people like Ted Cruz.
They trout out some "expert" from some think tank with a name that sounds impressive "Center for Security Policy".
But that expert is generally some nonsensical person willing to say whatever these Right wing nuts want.
But now that that "expert" is spouting "nonsense" in a Congressional Hearing, it gives it gravitas.
The next step is for Ted Cruz to go on TV and say "See, this expert, from this place with this impressive sounding name said _______".
So, now Fox News and other right wing places report "An expert in a Congressional hearing said _________" and further launder the BS.
And then someone like you hears that, doesn't do his/her own due diligence, believes it and regurgitates it like you did here.

4.) I say all this because when I first heard about the hearing days ago it sounded very suspect. So, I went and googled who the guy was.
And not surprising he was what I expected.
Below is Google AI description of the Center for Security Policy.

5.) In fewer words, I have a problem with Ted Cruz pulling this stunt, the BS analyst he used to pull it and people like you who don't use the most basic of critical thinking.

Iyobaba:
Finally, you admit you've a thing against Cruz, that's understandable but discrediting a renowned analyst because of Cruz's bigotry or bias is what I'm against.

There are several well armed white militia groups within the US like the Patriots front and Active club, if someone or a Demo brings up a report support this notion, it shouldn't matter as long as the report is accurate.

Pray tell how you know the report is accurate.

My "against cruz" is not the only reason I gave you, so don't limit my against to cruz please.

Cruz, like the dump he serves, lies, so why wouldn't one suspect anything he says? If such people tell me the sky were blue I'd check it's not red.

One should not let oneself be manipulated thus, is what I think.

Bamboozled could also mean confused, throw off and sometimes frustrated, I'm surprised you're still on about this.
CSP - Center for Security Policy (CSP), a Washington, D.C.-based think tank

Testified as an expert witness in federal trial proceedings regarding domestic extremist network connections.

Testified before congressional bodies, including the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee (Subcommittee on the Constitution) and the Canadian Senate Standing Committee on National Security and Defense
I see this conversation might be a rabbit hole
It was nice but all good things must come to an end 😊

IjeBos:
1.) Again, bamboozled was the wrong word choice. It may mean confused, but it's connotation (I'm helping you with new words) is confusion based on trickery.



2.) Now you're getting there. Let's go further.
a.) What is the CISP? What think tank is that and what is their background?
b.) What senior US government officials, members of Congress and state attorneys has he briefed.
c.) What research and writing has he done?

3.) You were bamboozled but not by me.
This is the playbook of the right and people like Ted Cruz.
They trout out some "expert" from some think tank with a name that sounds impressive "Center for Security Policy".
But that expert is generally some nonsensical person willing to say whatever these Right wing nuts want.
But now that that "expert" is spouting "nonsense" in a Congressional Hearing, it gives it gravitas.
The next step is for Ted Cruz to go on TV and say "See, this expert, from this place with this impressive sounding name said _______".
So, now Fox News and other right wing places report "An expert in a Congressional hearing said _________" and further launder the BS.
And then someone like you hears that, doesn't do his/her own due diligence, believes it and regurgitates it like you did here.

4.) I say all this because when I first heard about the hearing days ago it sounded very suspect. So, I went and googled who the guy was.
And not surprising he was what I expected.
Below is Google AI description of the Center for Security Policy.

5.) In fewer words, I have a problem with Ted Cruz pulling this stunt, the BS analyst he used to pull it and people like you who don't use the most basic of critical thinking.

Iyobaba:
Bamboozled could also mean confused, throw off and sometimes frustrated, I'm surprised you're still on about this.
CSP - Center for Security Policy (CSP), a Washington, D.C.-based think tank

Testified as an expert witness in federal trial proceedings regarding domestic extremist network connections.

Testified before congressional bodies, including the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee (Subcommittee on the Constitution) and the Canadian Senate Standing Committee on National Security and Defense
I see this conversation might be a rabbit hole
It was nice but all good things must come to an end 😊

I knew what CSP was, you didn't.
I already posted who and what CSP is and what they are trying to push.
You're close but still not there.
Find out what narrative the lawmakers who asked him to testify were trying to peddle and then you may finally understand.

This isn't a new thing. Republicans regularly pull these types of shenanigans with "expert witnesses".
They expect people like you to hear catch words (expert) and automatically believe what you hear next.
It's one step up from what Raumdeuter and Basilico do: Go on twitter and just listen and then post nonsense from whatever rando they find on their feed, "expert" moniker or not.

When I was a kid I learned the 5 W's and How. Who, What, Where, When, Why, and How.
Also to question what bias a person may have and what narrative they are trying to sell me.
Try those and maybe you won't be getting fooled by "experts" from fancy sounding think tanks.

FYI, I am an expert from "I know everything about Everything" think tank.
So, I must be right. /s

cococandy:
Dumabsses

Very olodo people..

That’s why they easily get scammed.:

Trump each day tells them who he is and what exactly he’s gonna do.. but somehow they avoid all that reality and hold on to his lies…

Bayelsaowei see your favorite children

“Israel kills Palestinian kids!”

The Palestinian kids 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻

Raised in a death-cult ideology that destroys their minds, their hearts, their lives, and sends their souls to hell. pic.twitter.com/gVbZdbjVUk

— 🇺🇸 Jake Hilton 🇮🇱 (@TheDemSlayer) August 7, 2026

benalvino3:
Bayelsaowei see your favorite children

“Israel kills Palestinian kids!”

The Palestinian kids 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻

Raised in a death-cult ideology that destroys their minds, their hearts, their lives, and sends their souls to hell. pic.twitter.com/gVbZdbjVUk

— 🇺🇸 Jake Hilton 🇮🇱 (@TheDemSlayer) August 7, 2026

Every little child, be it Palestinian, Jewish, Nigerian, black, white, Asian etc is precious to God and also to me..

Anyone who intentionally kills a child does not only become my enemy, but also becomes an enemy of God…

bayelsaowei:
Every little child, be it Palestinian, Jewish, Nigerian, black, white, Asian etc is precious to God and also to me..

Anyone who intentionally kills a child does not only become my enemy, but also becomes an enemy of God…

Their future looks bleak, trained in hatred and remaining this way because it's all they will know.

They will develop a taste for Jewish blood, and as a result, the next generation will start a fight that these little kids will initially celebrate, unaware of what their parents have involved them in. That's the sad reality.

I EXPECTED YOU TO BE ALARMED BY THEIR INDOCTRINATION.

benalvino3:
Their future looks bleak, trained in hatred and remaining this way because it's all they will know.

They will develop a taste for Jewish blood, and as a result, the next generation will start a fight that these little kids will initially celebrate, unaware of what their parents have involved them in. That's the sad reality.

I EXPECTED YOU TO BE ALARMED BY THEIR INDOCTRINATION.

What you just said also applies to Jewish kids..

Systemic hatred for each other.

I hope Palestinian kids have a country to even live in by the time Satanyahu is done with them.

Oh you forgot to mention the thousands of little kids that have been killed. Why?

Mr propaganda..😅😅

bayelsaowei:
What you just said also applies to Jewish kids..

Systemic hatred for each other.

I hope Palestinian kids have a country to even live in by the time Satanyahu is done with them.

Oh you forgot to mention the thousands of little kids that have been killed. Why?

Mr propaganda..😅😅

Then show me the equivalent Jewish child in the situation we are discussing.

Israeli kids live ordinary childhoods life until they reach the age for military service. They are not being handed weapons as children and prepared for some future holy war.

So where exactly is the “propaganda” in what I said?

Yes, thousands of Palestinian children have died, and that is tragic. But constantly repeating the death toll does not answer the point I am making: what kind of future are adults creating for children when they expose them from childhood to weapons, martyrdom, hatred and armed struggle?

You keep jumping straight to Israel while refusing to discuss what happens to these children before they ever meet an Israeli soldier.

Israeli children are being prepared to become doctors, engineers, scientists, etc,. whatever they choose.

Palestinian children deserve exactly the same opportunity. They should be learning how to cure cancer, build businesses and raise families too, not being conditioned to believe that their destiny is another generation of war.

That is the difference I am asking you to address.

And acknowledging that does not mean Israel can do whatever it wants or that every Palestinian child killed was a combatant. It means you cannot genuinely claim to care about Palestinian children while refusing to condemn the adults and armed groups that help trap another generation inside the same war.

benalvino3:
Then show me the equivalent Jewish child in the situation we are discussing.

Israeli kids live ordinary childhoods life until they reach the age for military service. They are not being handed weapons as children and prepared for some future holy war.

So where exactly is the “propaganda” in what I said?

Yes, thousands of Palestinian children have died, and that is tragic. But constantly repeating the death toll does not answer the point I am making: what kind of future are adults creating for children when they expose them from childhood to weapons, martyrdom, hatred and armed struggle?

You keep jumping straight to Israel while refusing to discuss what happens to these children before they ever meet an Israeli soldier.

Israeli children are being prepared to become doctors, engineers, scientists, etc,. whatever they choose.

Palestinian children deserve exactly the same opportunity. They should be learning how to cure cancer, build businesses and raise families too, not being conditioned to believe that their destiny is another generation of war.

That is the difference I am asking you to address.

And acknowledging that does not mean Israel can do whatever it wants or that every Palestinian child killed was a combatant. It means you cannot genuinely claim to care about Palestinian children while refusing to condemn the adults and armed groups that help trap another generation inside the same war.

How can Palestinian children have the prospect of pursuing any career when they are being bombed right left and center and also being displaced and occupied..No be who get country go get career?

You still think you’re making sense with all your write ups..

If you were a Palestinian adult let alone a child can you chase a career? Schools and institutions have been bombed to smithereens.

Mtseew!!

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html?banner=worldcup

11 season ex NBA player declares he wants to join WNBA.
Hilarious. He gets support from across those pushing for exclusive women sports and washrooms.
If simply declaring who you are is all that’s required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA.

'My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA’s eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April 2027

Liberalism is akin to madness.

Iyobaba:
Again, you keep bringing different topics not remotely connected to the current discourse.

I think what you disagree with here is Ted Cruz and not what the counterterrorism analyst had to say.

Budaatum supports every stupid liberal agenda.
Budaatum supports Islam to her bone marrow
Budaatum will agree with Hasan piker here

Hasan Poker in resurfaced Clip: “We want more immigrants to come into your countries and then they’re gonna f*ck your sisters and then your daughters… We’re here to destroy the white race, b*tch.” pic.twitter.com/YCBtmK82ng

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) August 7, 2026

bayelsaowei:
How can Palestinian children have the prospect of pursuing any career when they are being bombed right left and center and also being displaced and occupied..No be who get country go get career?

You still think you’re making sense with all your write ups..

If you were a Palestinian adult let alone a child can you chase a career? Schools and institutions have been bombed to smithereens.

Mtseew!!

Totally false and myopic argument.
How much propaganda have you swallowed to make this claim.

benalvino3:
Israeli kids live ordinary childhoods life until they reach the age for military service. They are not being handed weapons as children and prepared for some future holy war.

Yeah, ben. The Israelis leave their children at home when they go to kick the Palestinians off the land so they can steal it from them.

Personally, I can't understand why you wouldn't expect radicalised Palestinians. If Israel done what they did to them to me I'd be radicalised for generations to come!

budaatum:
Yeah, ben. The Israelis leave their children at home when they go to kick the Palestinians off the land so they can steal it from them.

Personally, I can't understand why you wouldn't expect radicalised Palestinians. If Israel done what they did to them to me I'd be radicalised for generations to come!

You and bayelsaowei support giving kids a gun.

How did Palestinians found themselves in this predicament? The taste for blood. They still taste for blood till date.