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Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 2:49pm On Aug 12
Dtruthspeaker:
You are the one who is the fraud and for by the arguments in this thread spanning even 4 pages, everybody can see that the argument was on whether tithing should be done or not. But here you are lying about it in your bid to change the argument. You already know were liars are going to
If the discussion on this thread was strictly whether tithe should be done or not, why did you discuss on "who" should pay tithe? The same you claimed that "everyone is a farmer" after you challenged immortalcrown to show you the farm that the bible says that Jesus and his disciples owned as evident in the screenshot below. Do you see that you are a big hypocrite?

Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 2:53pm On Aug 12
sharone21:
Kindly show me where in the constitution Nigeria, children were explicitly told to care for their aged parents?

Similar to the Tithe in the Bible, it is not explicitly written as such even though it may be there.

God expects us to behave/ obey like children/ childlike to many things( this even helps us in relationships and marriages ), oversabi finishes us. And God blesses our obedience.

Even countries were tax is beyond 10%, the citizens still pay.

But if you choose to cross-examine/ interrogate God intensely b4 you give Him your paltry sum, don't bother please as only a cheerful giver is who God wants and eventually rewards.
Your statement in bold above already shows that you are not even sure of what the Bible says on tithing. So you are not even sure on what the Bible says on tithing but you want others to follow your personal opinion to give their 10% earning to the church. Why are you not instigating people to give their 50% earnings to the church?
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:04pm On Aug 12
sharone21:
As only a cheerful giver is who God wants and eventually rewards.
The real tithe you can't pay but bribing false prophets to tell you lies is easy.

God never ask anyone in the new covenant to pay tithe with material things he has handed everything to His only begotten Son Jesus {Matthew 28:17} who demanded something that's not easy for the rich but easily accessible to the poor! Luke 18:18-23
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by orisa37: 6:00pm On Aug 12
Truthseeker10:
So where does this "Provider" ask me to pay tithe in the bible?
Pay TITHE by your BELIEF AND TRUST IN RIGHTEOUS LIVING.
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:24pm On Aug 12
orisa37:
Pay TITHE by your BELIEF AND TRUST IN RIGHTEOUS LIVING.
Where he dey inside Bible?

You people just enter religious section to talk without having any knowledge!🥱
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 6:52pm On Aug 12
orisa37:
Pay TITHE by your BELIEF AND TRUST IN RIGHTEOUS LIVING.
is this your personal opinion or it is written in the bible?
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 8:39pm On Aug 12
Truthseeker10:
If the discussion on this thread was strictly whether tithe should be done or not, why did you discuss on "who" should pay tithe? The same you claimed that "everyone is a farmer" after you challenged immortalcrown to show you the farm that the bible says that Jesus and his disciples owned as evident in the screenshot below. Do you see that you are a big hypocrite?
Thank God you showed that this is in REBUTTAL to someone who is even arguing that tithe should not paid because Jesus and His disciples did not pay tithe

And whilst everyone saw that i answered that we do not see them pay tithe because we do not see them working in a profit making enterprise is why we do not see them pay tithe, a fact even you yourself saw and responded on to me, but now, here you are in your corruption and pevertion now changing it to "who should pay tithe?" even after you saw that it was not.

So, you are a fraud . Everyday for the fraud one day for God
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 1:24am On Aug 13
Dtruthspeaker:
Thank God you showed that this is in REBUTTAL to someone who is even arguing that tithe should not paid because Jesus and His disciples did not pay tithe

And whilst everyone saw that i answered that we do not see them pay tithe because we do not see them working in a profit making enterprise is why we do not see them pay tithe, a fact even you yourself saw and responded on to me, but now, here you are in your corruption and pevertion now changing it to "who should pay tithe?" even after you saw that it was not.

So, you are a fraud . Everyday for the fraud one day for God
You mean that some of Jesus disciples were not fishermen, is this not you below in the screenshot saying that a fisherman farms fish?

You even went on to say that "everyone is a farmer". Do you see that you are very ignorant and dubious?

Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 7:59am On Aug 13
Truthseeker10:
You mean that some of Jesus disciples were not fishermen, is this not you below in the screenshot saying that a fisherman farms fish?

You even went on to say that "everyone is a farmer". Do you see that you are very ignorant and dubious?
See it, even after all your frauds in this thread, you are still committing more and lyings as you change post to "You mean that some of Jesus disciples were not fishermen" from the lie of "why did you discuss on "who" should pay tithe?".

It is clear that you are a lier from the beginning just like your father sayt and where he'll be, you shall be too. Continue
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 10:09am On Aug 13
God punish satan and his children forever
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by yommyuk(op): 10:53am On Aug 13
Truthseeker10:
Kindly explain Deuteronomy 14:23.
The economic currency at that time differs from what it is right now. Agriculture used to be the main form of employment at that time.

However, the basis of Deut 14:23 can be found in the previous verse 22.

Key phrase is SET ASIDE A TENTH.

What to do with it depends on your personal circumstances and culture you live in. If you live in culture where you pay taxes to the government. Then, your tithe will be on your net pay. Which is your gross pay after essential expenses has been deducted. The tithe not for the fat cats but for the clergy who are wholly dependant on the tithes ( i.e. Levites and poor of the society - Deut 14:27,29).

In theory, all the tithes are supposed to go to the clergy, who in turn, take their part and allocate the rest to the poor. But if you the tither have a personal conviction, to allocate your tithe betweem the poor and clergy. Totally, up to you.

Do it cheerfully and not under compulsion. cool
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by yommyuk(op): 11:02am On Aug 13
Truthseeker10:
You are not clear. Are you saying that if someone today believes in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, then, he must pay tithe, is there a verse in the bible that says so?
Moses while living in Pharaoh's palace was always aware for the existence of the God of Israel. This is the reason God introduced himself out of a burning bush as the God of Moses Father. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The bible said, immediately, Moses heard this intro, he hid his face because he was afraid to look at God.

The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. It is wisdom that makes a true believer tithe unto the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that appeared to Moses via a burning bush.

To answer your question.

Not must but should. It is all about personal conviction.
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 1:12pm On Aug 13
yommyuk:
Moses while living in Pharaoh's palace was always aware for the existence of the God of Israel. This is the reason God introduced himself out of a burning bush as the God of Moses Father. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The bible said, immediately, Moses heard this intro, he hid his face because he was afraid to look at God.

The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. It is wisdom that makes a true believer tithe unto the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that appeared to Moses via a burning bush.

To answer your question.

Not must but should. It is all about personal conviction.
You did not still quote a verse that says that a person who believes in the God of Moses should pay tithe.
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 1:18pm On Aug 13
yommyuk:
The economic currency at that time differs from what it is right now. Agriculture used to be the main form of employment at that time.

However, the basis of Deut 14:23 can be found in the previous verse 22.

Key phrase is SET ASIDE A TENTH.

What to do with it depends on your personal circumstances and culture you live in. If you live in culture where you pay taxes to the government. Then, your tithe will be on your net pay. Which is your gross pay after essential expenses has been deducted. The tithe not for the fat cats but for the clergy who are wholly dependant on the tithes ( i.e. Levites and poor of the society - Deut 14:27,29).

In theory, all the tithes are supposed to go to the clergy, who in turn, take their part and allocate the rest to the poor. But if you the tither have a personal conviction, to allocate your tithe betweem the poor and clergy. Totally, up to you.

Do it cheerfully and not under compulsion. cool
What did Deuteronomy 14:23 say should be done to the tithe that is to be set aside?
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 1:25pm On Aug 13
Dtruthspeaker:
See it, even after all your frauds in this thread, you are still committing more and lyings as you change post to "You mean that some of Jesus disciples were not fishermen" from the lie of "why did you discuss on "who" should pay tithe?".

It is clear that you are a lier from the beginning just like your father sayt and where he'll be, you shall be too. Continue
lol...What are you even saying? Are you denying that Some of Jesus disciples were fishermen?

You were the one that claimed that the post is strictly about whether tithe should be Paid or not. But you went on to tell us "who" should pay tithe by claiming that "everyone is a farmer". So if you have the authority to discuss "who" should tithe, can't we also discuss "how" to tithe?
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by yommyuk(op): 3:03pm On Aug 13
Truthseeker10:
You did not still quote a verse that says that a person who believes in the God of Moses should pay tithe.
Your request is unjust.

Like asking why should somebody choose not to have a child. Though the bible said we should be fruitful and multiply, in terms of reproduction, it may not be some people's cup of tea.

There is not need for me to quote a bible verse to justify belief in the God of Abraham. It is all about personal conviction. You do not like it, Hop
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by yommyuk(op): 3:09pm On Aug 13
Truthseeker10:
What did Deuteronomy 14:23 say should be done to the tithe that is to be set aside?
This is where a lot of people get it wrong. Instead of looking at the context at which an instruction was given, SOME people try to apply it to all others in all circumstances. Like trying to justify stoning to death for wrongdoing in ancient times to this time we are living.

Committing of Adultery is still deemed bad practice in most cultures but the penalty for committing such act is less severe unlike in the ancient times.

It is called transition bro.

Na wa o

What should be done with tithes will apply to the environment to which you are living. If you like, adopt the core Jewish way of doing it, your choice. If you like , use your common sense as the spirit prompts u. Does it matter? The essence of it all is to be a giver. It is not about how you do it but WHY you are doing it.
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 4:06pm On Aug 13
yommyuk:
This is where a lot of people get it wrong. Instead of looking at the context at which an instruction was given, SOME people try to apply it to all others in all circumstances. Like trying to justify stoning to death for wrongdoing in ancient times to this time we are living.

Committing of Adultery is still deemed bad practice in most cultures but the penalty for committing such act is less severe unlike in the ancient times.

It is called transition bro.

Na wa o

What should be done with tithes will apply to the environment to which you are living. If you like, adopt the core Jewish way of doing it, your choice. If you like , use your common sense as the spirit prompts u. Does it matter? The essence of it all is to be a giver. It is not about how you do it but WHY you are doing it.
Are you joking right now? If we are still under the law of tithe, is it not the law of how God said it should be done that we should follow?
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 4:08pm On Aug 13
yommyuk:
Your request is unjust.

Like asking why should somebody choose not to have a child. Though the bible said we should be fruitful and multiply, in terms of reproduction, it may not be some people's cup of tea.

There is not need for me to quote a bible verse to justify belief in the God of Abraham. It is all about personal conviction. You do not like it, Hop
So a person who believes in the God of Abraham and Moses can decide not to pay tithe and be blessed by God? If yes, what is the essence of tithe?
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 7:37pm On Aug 13
Truthseeker10:
lol...What are you even saying? Are you denying that Some of Jesus disciples were fishermen?

You were the one that claimed that the post is strictly about whether tithe should be Paid or not. But you went on to tell us "who" should pay tithe by claiming that "everyone is a farmer". So if you have the authority to discuss "who" should tithe, can't we also discuss "how" to tithe?
Change of posts! Continue chameleoning son of dev. Your end shall come
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 7:49pm On Aug 13
Dtruthspeaker:
Change of posts! Continue chameleoning son of dev. Your end shall come
😅😅😅😅hypocrite. So "who" should pay tithe is not change of post?
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by yommyuk(op): 7:41am On Aug 14
Truthseeker10:
So a person who believes in the God of Abraham and Moses can decide not to pay tithe and be blessed by God? If yes, what is the essence of tithe?
Simple.

Just a good way to show that a true believer loves the Lord with all their heart. cool
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by yommyuk(op): 7:45am On Aug 14
Truthseeker10:
Are you joking right now? If we are still under the law of tithe, is it not the law of how God said it should be done that we should follow?
Joking? Not at all.

A true believer does not joke with the things of God.

Regarding the Law. We do not follow the letter of the law but the spirit of the Law.
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Dtruthspeaker: 9:04am On Aug 14
Truthseeker10:
😅😅😅😅hypocrite. So "who" should pay tithe is not change of post?
ànjọ̀nú the thread shows that thrice i have shown you that the topic is not about "who should pay tithe". Continue, your end is near
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 10:54am On Aug 14
Dtruthspeaker:
ànjọ̀nú the thread shows that thrice i have shown you that the topic is not about "who should pay tithe". Continue, your end is near
But you told us that "everyone is a farmer" and therefore should pay tithe.😅😅😅. Hypocrite.
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 10:55am On Aug 14
yommyuk:
Joking? Not at all.

A true believer does not joke with the things of God.

Regarding the Law. We do not follow the letter of the law but the spirit of the Law.
😅😅😅Look at this guy. So what I'd your source of the spirit of the law of tithe?
Re: The Essence Of Tithing by Truthseeker10: 10:55am On Aug 14
yommyuk:
Simple.

Just a good way to show that a true believer loves the Lord with all their heart. cool
So a person who does not tithe does not love the Lord with all their heart?
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