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Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Holy2Glory: 11:01pm On Sep 05
Truthseeker10:
Ok so if it's not in the number, are you saying that you not prayed for Nigeria to be problem free before? Why is there so many problems here? Why has God not answered your prayers?
I told you to take a nap but you won't because you love to hear my voice and my wisdom. The only reason why you are seating comfortable in that chair right now cruising the internet is because I prayed yesterday. And the only reason why you will be alive tomorrow not dead is because someone is praying right now. Wherefore do you take God's benevolence for granted? It's enough that a man's heart content him with the gift of life.
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 8:50am On Sep 06
Holy2Glory:
I told you to take a nap but you won't because you love to hear my voice and my wisdom. The only reason why you are seating comfortable in that chair right now cruising the internet is because I prayed yesterday. And the only reason why you will be alive tomorrow not dead is because someone is praying right now. Wherefore do you take God's benevolence for granted? It's enough that a man's heart content him with the gift of life.
So why has you prayer not changed Nigeria?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Holy2Glory: 10:19am On Sep 06
Truthseeker10:
So why has you prayer not changed Nigeria?
Bro, I lecture I don't teach, that is if you know the difference. I expect you to understand even a slightest insinuation even when words have not been given it. Are you not wise at all? I just mentioned that you are cruising your internet so peacefully right now because I prayed. And you will be alive tomorrow because someone is praying right now yet you speak of answering prayers? Are you saying you are dead because if you are alive it means my prayers worked well. Or are you calling Nigeria as though Nigeria is the trees or the animals? Are you not the Nigeria? Who is the Nigeria? The man who died in the last US strike in the country you feel God have answered their prayers will have wanted your place now instead of his. Wherefore then are you taking God's goodness and benevolence for granted? And if been alive with this level of peace that is given you is not enough why not press a bit further yourself? At least a prayer that have given you the duo ( life and peace ) is very close to perfect. My prayer did.

Now let your small wisdom teach you that one of the hidden secret words in this letter is that no one will give you or give your country what you are not able to give yourself or give your country bro. Now find out the other hidden secrets here. If you ask another irrelevant question I will be very disappointed.
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 10:21am On Sep 06
Holy2Glory:
Bro, I lecture I don't teach, that is if you know the difference. I expect you to understand even a slightest insinuation even when words have not been given it. Are you not wise at all? I just mentioned that you are cruising your internet so peacefully right now because I prayed. And you will be alive tomorrow because someone is praying right now yet you speak of answering prayers? Are you saying you are dead because if you are alive it means my prayers worked well. Or are you calling Nigeria as though Nigeria is the trees or the animals? Are you not the Nigeria? Who is the Nigeria? The man who died in the last US strike in the country you feel God have answered their prayers will have wanted your place now instead of his. Wherefore then are you taking God's goodness and benevolence for granted? And if been alive with this level of peace that is given you is not enough why not press a bit further yourself? At least a prayer that have given you the duo ( life and peace ) is very close to perfect. My prayer did.

Now let your small wisdom teach you that one of the hidden secret words in this letter is that no one will give you or give your country what you are not able to give yourself or give your country bro. Now find out the other hidden secrets here. If you ask another irrelevant question I will be very disappointed.
oga you are focused on my life. So are you saying that your prayer could not help the people that died yesterday?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by gohf: 11:00am On Sep 06
Truthseeker10:
If God decides and makes the end of each individual before they were born, how can individuals be responsible for their own actions?
God's decision is based on what he sees in us before we were born. God said let there be light and He SAW the light good. When God examines us as we are formed in the womb He knows us before we are born and decides our fate and future and while His plans for us are good, the devil tempts us to stray away into the path of destruction.

So it remains our responsibility just as it was Jesus to submit to God's will and be obedient to God.
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 11:03am On Sep 06
gohf:
God's decision is based on what he sees in us before we were born. God said let there be light and He SAW the light good. When God examines us as we are formed in the womb He knows us before we are born and decides our fate and future and while His plans for us are good, the devil tempts us to stray away into the path of destruction.

So it remains our responsibility just as it was Jesus to submit to God's will and be obedient to God.
So God decided the fate of terrorist to kill Christians in Nigeria before they were born?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by gohf: 11:19am On Sep 06
Truthseeker10:
So God decided the fate of terrorist to kill Christians in Nigeria before they were born?
the fate of the wicked is destruction as the wages of sin is death

And if you are asking if God knew his children will be persecuted? YES and HE GOD ALLOWED THE DEVIL TO TEST, TO TRAMPLE BUT NOT TO OVERCOME HIS CHILDREN


Rev.13.5 - Then the beast was allowed to speak great blasphemies against God. And he was given authority to do what he wanted for forty-two months.
Rev.13.6 - And he spoke terrible words of blasphemy against God, slandering his name and all who live in heaven, who are his temple.
Rev.13.7 - And the beast was allowed to wage war against God's holy people and to overcome them. And he was given authority to rule over every tribe and people and language and nation.
Rev.13.8 - And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life, which belongs to the Lamb who was killed before the world was made.
Rev.13.9 - Anyone who is willing to hear should listen and understand.
Rev.13.10 - The people who are destined for prison will be arrested and taken away. Those who are destined for death will be killed. But do not be dismayed, for here is your opportunity to have endurance and faith.
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 11:21am On Sep 06
gohf:
the fate of the wicked is destruction as the wages of sin is death

And if you are asking if God knew his children will be persecuted? YES and HE GOD ALLOWED THE DEVIL TO TEST, TO TRAMPLE BUT NOT TO OVERCOME HIS CHILDREN


Rev.13.5 - Then the beast was allowed to speak great blasphemies against God. And he was given authority to do what he wanted for forty-two months.
Rev.13.6 - And he spoke terrible words of blasphemy against God, slandering his name and all who live in heaven, who are his temple.
Rev.13.7 - And the beast was allowed to wage war against God's holy people and to overcome them. And he was given authority to rule over every tribe and people and language and nation.
Rev.13.8 - And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life, which belongs to the Lamb who was killed before the world was made.
Rev.13.9 - Anyone who is willing to hear should listen and understand.
Rev.13.10 - The people who are destined for prison will be arrested and taken away. Those who are destined for death will be killed. But do not be dismayed, for here is your opportunity to have endurance and faith.
so God decided that Christians would be killed by terrorists? If yes, why blame Terrorists for what God decided for them to do before they were born?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by gohf: 11:31am On Sep 06
Truthseeker10:
so God decided that Christians would be killed by terrorists? If yes, why blame Terrorists for what God decided for them to do before they were born?
death is called WAGES for sin right? As they decided and agreed to be vessels unto wickedness then they will receive their just reward as well.

Lol but who told you God decides that a person should be wicked and makes a choice for them what actions they should take?

God decides the outcome but gives you the free will. He knows your heart and calls the sinners to repentance so as to give them a new heart. And just as he orders the steps of the just he lets the devil leads those who refuse his wisdom into their destruction

So are you saying we should blame God for giving men choices which give them the probability of being evil?
For God calling them to repentance and to do the right things willingly?
So we blame God for how he decided to form the clay?

Should we say it is God's fault for giving freedom to those He created for His purpose and pleasure.

Should we not also blame God for giving Adam a choice and for leaving him with such freedom as to make a mistake and die from it. After all God would have uprooted the "tree". Should we blame God for giving us responsibility and claim we should not be held responsible?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 11:34am On Sep 06
gohf:
death is called WAGES for sin right? As they decided and agreed to be vessels unto wickedness then they will receive their just reward as well.

Lol but who told you God decides that a person should be wicked and makes a choice for them what actions they should take?

God decides the outcome but gives you the free will. He knows your heart and calls the sinners to repentance so as to give them a new heart. And just as he orders the steps of the just he lets the devil leads those who refuse his wisdom into their destruction

So are you saying we should blame God for giving men choices which give them the probability of being evil?
For God calling them to repentance and to do the right things willingly?
So we blame God for how he decided to form the clay?

Should we say it is God's fault for giving freedom to those He created for His purpose and pleasure.

Should we not also blame God for giving Adam a choice and for leaving him with such freedom as to make a mistake and die from it. After all God would have uprooted the "tree". Should we blame God for giving us responsibility and claim we should not be held responsible?
How can a person decide to be vessel of wickedness before he is born? Is it not your God that decided that they would be vessels of wickedness, so why blame them?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by gohf: 11:35am On Sep 06
Truthseeker10:
How can a person decide to be vessel of wickedness before he is born? Is it not your God that decided that they would be vessels of wickedness, so why blame them?
was cain a vessel of wickedness?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by gohf: 11:38am On Sep 06
Truthseeker10 don't disappoint me, you processed numerous lines of response from me in barely 3 minutes yet a single line question and you are yet to give a simple response 😔
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 12:00pm On Sep 06
gohf:
was cain a vessel of wickedness?
So Cain decided to be wicked before he was born?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by gohf: 1:44pm On Sep 06
Truthseeker10:
So Cain decided to be wicked before he was born?
took you a while... But you can't answer a simple question?

was cain a vessel of wickedness?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Holy2Glory: 5:40pm On Sep 06
Truthseeker10:
oga you are focused on my life. So are you saying that your prayer could not help the people that died yesterday?
Dear Lord, bro you need to go to heaven first to know why death is in existence in the first place. Your perfect country where God have answered them recorded deaths too last time I checked. What do you take prayer for? So prayers should stop anyone from dying? Then may be the multitude of humans that should be on he planet wouldn't have made room for you to even stand straight on a piece of ground. Knoweth thee not that even death is a blessing? You think our praying is for people not to die? Our prayers helped to kill so many already, you don't know? Pls tread with caution; danger does not give signal most times. However like I said, I spare you. Lastly, it is not in your hand to acknowledge or wether not to acknowledge the fact that we spared you. This means we don't need your consent concerning it. Our words does not go out without doing what it was meant for. The word is that you have been spared, so go home and take a nap; why should you meddle with unrest? Why should you meddle with trouble?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 7:21am On Sep 07
Holy2Glory:
Dear Lord, bro you need to go to heaven first to know why death is in existence in the first place. Your perfect country where God have answered them recorded deaths too last time I checked. What do you take prayer for? So prayers should stop anyone from dying? Then may be the multitude of humans that should be on he planet wouldn't have made room for you to even stand straight on a piece of ground. Knoweth thee not that even death is a blessing? You think our praying is for people not to die? Our prayers helped to kill so many already, you don't know? Pls tread with caution; danger does not give signal most times. However like I said, I spare you. Lastly, it is not in your hand to acknowledge or wether not to acknowledge the fact that we spared you. This means we don't need your consent concerning it. Our words does not go out without doing what it was meant for. The word is that you have been spared, so go home and take a nap; why should you meddle with unrest? Why should you meddle with trouble?
So if death is needed to go to heaven, why are you claiming that your prayer is stopping death?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 7:26am On Sep 07
gohf:
took you a while... But you can't answer a simple question?

was cain a vessel of wickedness?
You are the teacher here na......did Cain decide to be wicked before he was born?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Holy2Glory: 6:49pm On Sep 07
Truthseeker10:
So if death is needed to go to heaven, why are you claiming that your prayer is stopping death?
Bro, just read that message again. You will see why I have been surprised at you all long. I didn't even mention what you suggested; infact, it's even the opposite.
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 11:19pm On Sep 07
Holy2Glory:
Bro, just read that message again. You will see why I have been surprised at you all long. I didn't even mention what you suggested; infact, it's even the opposite.
Did you not say that it is your prayers that even make more Christians die so that they can go to heaven? So why have you said that it is the prayer of people that has not made some people to die?
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Holy2Glory: 12:02pm On Sep 08
Truthseeker10:
Did you not say that it is your prayers that even make more Christians die so that they can go to heaven? So why have you said that it is the prayer of people that has not made some people to die?
Oh no I lost you; you were not listening.
Re: Can Prayer Change What God Almightiest Has Already Decided? by Truthseeker10: 8:15am On Sep 09
Holy2Glory:
Oh no I lost you; you were not listening.
You were the one not listening to your teachings. You seem to be confused by them
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