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Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f):
All I’ve learned so far from this case is that the police came to the house where three children lay dead in the basement and their mother was unconscious, with a temperature of 80+ degrees, a crush thyroid and unable to speak.

And all the investigation they did was to accept what he said as fact and did not dig deeper.

I know there are several legal technicalities at play here being that she woke up and was told that her husband said that she said she killed the kids and tried to kill herself. She accepted that likely false memory seeing as she can’t remember anything else that happened.

And according to him, she supposedly tried to kill herself by ingesting some drugs, cutting herself in the wrists and neck and then throwing herself from a window?

Okay. lol

May them babies rest in peace. The law enforcement failed them by not doing proper investigation.

“Patrick said” is not evidence of anything.

IjeBos:
I'm not sure about this.
Haven't reviewed the case, but I'm sure no one wants to find someone who killed 3 children not guilty.
The problem is the law is the law. And jurors are bound to obey the law. (though I am also comfortable with jury nullification in some cases)
If they believed she didn't have the mens rea due to insanity to commit the crime, then they should have voted not guilty.
But it doesn't mean she goes free, probably will be committed for a long long time.

From my quick reading she didn't seem to be mentally stable before the killings and so it seems 'Not guilty' was the appropriate judgement.
The lone juror seemed not to be focussed on doing his duties as a juror or wanted to nullify the jury.
Again, this is based on a quick reading of the facts.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 11:26pm On Sep 13
IjeBos:
This whole episode would sink any other President.
Here it's not even the worst thing he's done this week.
The US government needs to somehow consequence manage Trump after he leaves office.. if not America won’t be taken serious anymore by allies. America currently is a Joke.

President is part of a PDF coverup, a sex offender, a convicted felon, a grifter, a maniac etc..

To avoid other Trumps from rising up in the future, Trump needs to be held accountable for all his madness.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 11:42pm On Sep 13
Border wall about to cause casala oo..🤣🤣😅😅..

Build wall, build wall!!!!

Trump always causing issues for his supporters.. why na.. they can’t even breathe well..

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 11:51pm On Sep 13
cococandy:
They’d never win in any free and fair election.
That’s why they have to suppress votes every election. If they don’t cheat they’ll have nothing.

And they’ve never won any popular votes regardless of what the last election tampered by Elon says.

They know it and we all know it.
All their ranting about election fraud is projection. Like everything else they do.
The combination of efforts to restrict voters from selecting their choice of leaders is alarming:

1. Gerrymandering
2. save act
3. Executive order on mail in voting
4. Deployment of ICE

The GOP is scared as hell.. they know they’ve performed abysmally in every way.

So the only option is to cheat.

😂😂😅😅
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca:
cococandy:
All I’ve learned so far from this case is that the police came to the house where three children lay dead in the basement and their mother was unconscious, with a temperature of 80+ degrees, a crush thyroid and unable to speak.

And all the investigation they did was to accept what he said as fact and did not dig deeper.

I know there are several legal technicalities at play here being that she woke up and was told that her husband said that she said that killed the killed and tried to kill herself. She accepted that likely false memory even as she can’t remember anything else that happened.

And according to him, she supposedly tried to kill herself by ingesting some drugs, cutting herself in the wrists and neck and then throwing herself from a window?

Okay. lol

May them babies rest in peace. The law enforcement failed them by not doing proper investigation.

“Patrick said” is not evidence of anything.
This woman, who is pro abortion and the killing of babies all the way up to the time of birth, wants to blame the husband for the killing of his kids despite all the facts.

Your husband if you have one, should be worried.

This is the problem with feminists. You don't care about the kids; the hatred for men is what matters to you.

Your husband is probably a zoyboi, liberal, and all the woke in the world, and I doubt you like him because of your hatred for men and children.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca:
Cococandy, maybe her lawyers should have stepped down and called the police to ask these questions.

Pathetic.

I know your opinion on this case would be the same as the TikTok feminists blaming the husband for the murder.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 12:44am On Sep 14
grin
bayelsaowei:
Border wall about to cause casala oo..🤣🤣😅😅..

Build wall, build wall!!!!

Trump always causing issues for his supporters.. why na.. they can’t even breathe well..
Team “Don’t tread on me” are about to get treaded upon heavily
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 12:48am On Sep 14
Women don’t support abusive women when they commit heinous crimes. Case in point all other cases of domestic violence by women that have gained attention and were condemned by all and sundry.

But conservative men? Many of them are champions of supporting criminal minded men. I’m gonna need supporters of PDFiles to sit out the conversation while the court handles the matter.

: A meta-analysis of 37 studies found that males endorsed violence, rape myths, and victim-blaming significantly more strongly than women. Rape myths include beliefs like blaming the victim, minimizing sexual violence, or excusing the perpetrator.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20065313/

There is an entire area of research called “male peer support theory,” which looks at how groups of males normalize, excuse, encourage, or fail to challenge violence against women.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1043986208315483

Another meta-analysis found that males tended to judge victims of male violence and rape more negatively and attribute more responsibility to victims than women did.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26446194/

A 2021 study found that males were more likely than women to blame sexual assault victims, excuse perpetrators, and endorse sexist and rape-supportive beliefs.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32339090/

A large 2025 meta-analysis covering 40 studies and more than 12,000 males found that sexism, traditional gender-role beliefs, and rape-myth acceptance were associated with more victim blaming, less belief in victims, less perpetrator blame, viewing the assault as less serious, and supporting lighter punishment.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40542693/

Research has found that male perceptions of what other males approve of can affect whether they intervene when another males behaves sexually aggressively. In other words, male peer norms matter.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19401602/

A systematic review and meta-analysis also found that male peer approval of sexual violence is a risk factor for male sexual violence perpetration.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33176596/

There is even research specifically on how abusive males use denial, minimization, justification, and victim blaming to explain their own behavior.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37702188/

And this is not limited to internet comment sections. UNICEF actually tracks attitudes about whether people believe a husband is justified in hitting his wife under different circumstances because acceptance of those beliefs is considered a measure of social norms surrounding domestic violence.
https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-protection/violence/attitudes-and-social-norms-on-violence/

Norwood & Coen (2024), “His fight or flight kicked in and here we are”: Investigating the construction of a perpetrator within a dark fandom, Psychology of Popular Media.

Researchers analyzed an online community discussing family annihilator Chris Watts. They found that male participants frequently constructed Watts sympathetically, emphasized his positive qualities, and portrayed him as a victim reacting to his wife or circumstances. This is one of the clearest studies documenting an online community rationalizing or softening responsibility for a male family annihilator.

Sisask, Mark & Värnik (2012), “Internet Comments Elicited by Media Portrayal of a Familicide-Suicide Case,” Crisis.

Researchers analyzed 6,333 online comments responding to news coverage of a familicide-suicide. Comparing male to female comments, males were significantly more likely to justify and excuse familial violence, exclusively when committed by males.

O’Brien & Culloty (2022), “Reporting familicide-suicide in broadcast media: An Irish case study to inform better practice,” Journalism.

This study documented “perpetrator exoneration” in reporting after a male killed his family. Coverage repeatedly emphasized the perpetrator’s positive character and circumstances in ways that softened responsibility. Male community and religious voices were often privileged over expert analysis.

Wright, Eriksson & Bond (2025), research on social-media responses to intimate partner homicide, Journal of Interpersonal Violence.

Participants were shown intimate partner homicide stories and asked to write the kind of comment they would post online. A majority of male comments contained victim blaming. The researchers included sympathy for or excuses for the murderer within victim-blaming responses. This supports the observation that homicide discussions frequently include comments rationalizing the perpetrator or implying that the victim contributed to her own death.

Koepke, Eyssel & Bohner (2014), “‘She deserved it’: Effects of sexism norms, type of violence, and victim’s pre-assault behavior on blame attributions toward female victims and approval of the aggressor’s behavior.”

This experimental study found that when males perceived stronger hostile-sexist attitudes among other males, they became more likely to blame female victims and approve of male aggression. This provides experimental evidence that male peer environments can reinforce victim blaming and increase acceptance of men’s violence toward women.

DeKeseredy and colleagues, research on Male Peer Support Theory.

A substantial body of research on male peer support shows that groups of males consistently provide one another with encouragement, justification, normalization, or excuses for violence against women. Male peer networks can reinforce beliefs that women provoke abuse, deserve punishment, or are responsible for male violent reactions.

“What was she wearing?”
“She probably provoked him.”
“She was going to take his kids.”
“He just snapped.”
“She ruined his life.”
“He’s actually a good guy.”
“Boys will be boys.”

These are not random isolated attitudes. Researchers have been studying the social normalization and justification of male violence for decades.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 1:17am On Sep 14
@cococandy, she's embarrassed by you. Women don't support other women doing domestic violence? Look at you supporting Lindsay Clancy and blaming her husband.

Clancy admitted to the murder, her lawyers said so, yet the husband's story doesn't add up.

Did he try to kill her after killing the children? Or is he using some kind of voodoo to make her claim she did it? What do you want the police to investigate?

And now it's conservative men?

You want to normalize killing children. How can you prove someone is not insane? It is impossible. One can fake being insane, go to one or two psychiatrists, before they kill whoever they want to kill and this case will be cited. Liberal women are advocating for the right to kill their children.
https://youtube.com/shorts/uRsBwRasExY
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 1:19am On Sep 14
He said it best

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 1:20am On Sep 14
I just know this conservative loser that can’t get a woman without lying is not mentioning my name, is he?
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 1:23am On Sep 14
Cococandy lies: Women don’t support abusive women when they commit heinous crimes. Case in point all other cases of domestic violence by women that have gained attention and were condemned by all and sundry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QWk3EFasQM
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 1:50am On Sep 14
Bayelsaowei see your people
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 2:26am On Sep 14
bayelsaowei:
The combination of efforts to restrict voters from selecting their choice of leaders is alarming:

1. Gerrymandering
2. save act
3. Executive order on mail in voting
4. Deployment of ICE

The GOP is scared as hell.. they know they’ve performed abysmally in every way.

So the only option is to cheat.

😂😂😅😅
I would love to know what a Talarico win would actually mean for Texas and why they’re so afraid of it.

Is it simply an “owning the libs” thing? Or do they genuinely believe that the melting wax figure dude is better. By what standards?


I never paid attention to their politics until I discovered how obsessed they are with California and other blue states.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 2:27am On Sep 14
cococandy:
grin

Team “Don’t tread on me” are about to get treaded upon heavily
As in.

They never get to settle down to assess the long term impact of some of the hasty decisions made by Trump and his team.

Peoples lands about to be seized..
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 2:33am On Sep 14
bemeruca:
Bayelsaowei see your people
Them never investigate finish?
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 2:42am On Sep 14
bayelsaowei:
As in.

They never get to settle down to assess the long term impact of some of the hasty decisions made by Trump and his team.

Peoples lands about to be seized..
You know they’ll still blame the immigrants instead of their daddy Trump. 😀
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 3:17am On Sep 14
cococandy:
You know they’ll still blame the immigrants instead of their daddy Trump. 😀
Studies can come up with any proof thst you want
I

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 3:19am On Sep 14
basilico:
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Studies can come up with any proof thst you want
I
I’m sure you think that
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 3:23am On Sep 14
cococandy:
I would love to know what a Talarico win would actually mean for Texas and why they’re so afraid of it.

Is it simply an “owning the libs” thing? Or do they genuinely believe that the melting wax figure dude is better. By what standards?


I never paid attention to their politics until I discovered how obsessed they are with California and other blue states.
Ignoring what Talarico said with his own mouth.

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 3:32am On Sep 14
Liberals from Wales, Scotland and North Ireland want to secede from United Kingdom and rejoin the EU?


Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 3:34am On Sep 14
basilico:
Ignoring what Talarico said with his own mouth.
Y’all are “factual and logical” until the facts and logic are staring in you the face.

White men ARE the greatest source of terror in America. If they don’t like that fact, they need to stop raising serial killers
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 3:39am On Sep 14
The lone black juror had been doxxed online. Ron de Santis has offered him asylum in Floridai.
Ultimate proof that the left is inherently evil .

A man was conscripted into jury duty by the government. He performed his civic duty and followed his conscience, refusing to acquit a woman who confessed to systematically executing her three children. The defense attorney immediately launched a public smear campaign against the juror. Soon several other jurors joined the campaign. Then the media. Even the defense attorney’s wife has joined.

Now they’re doxxing the man, digging into his past, contacting his family, showing up at his house. All of this both to punish him for refusing to go with their program, and to pollute any future jury pool by making it clear that anyone who votes to convict Clancy will have their life destroyed.

It’s truly one of the most outrageously evil things we’ve ever seen from the Left, and that’s saying something. A direct assault on the integrity of our justice system. They are burning down every boundary and standard in their path. And doing it all for the sake of a child murdering psychopath. Unfathomable
.


If there's a retrial the jury knows what verdict is acceptable.
If she's is found not guilty she will be renanded in a mental asylum until a doctor proves she is Okay to resume normal life. Her reason for killing was that a voice inside her head ordered her. How will a doctor know that one day that voice will not orddr her to do something crazy after 1, 5 or 20 years?
Those jurors should be forced to live with her for a year.
firing squad for me tomorrow
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 3:48am On Sep 14
Nobody notified the public that this was a case between left vs right. The webs y’all love to construct and weave yourselves into.

If anything one would think that since she’s a white woman, whom you people love to pamper, cape and feel sorry for, that it’ll be a party thing for you guys to support her. Matter of fact he’s probably the leftist in this dynamic and she’s likely a conservative given she’s white and middle class.

I forgot that you love to twists yourselves into boxes no one designed for you and start crying about stupid things that one said had anything to do with you.


basilico:
The lone black juror had been doxxed online. Ron de Santis has offered him asylum in Floridai.
Ultimate proof that the left is inherently evil .

A man was conscripted into jury duty by the government. He performed his civic duty and followed his conscience, refusing to acquit a woman who confessed to systematically executing her three children. The defense attorney immediately launched a public smear campaign against the juror. Soon several other jurors joined the campaign. Then the media. Even the defense attorney’s wife has joined.

Now they’re doxxing the man, digging into his past, contacting his family, showing up at his house. All of this both to punish him for refusing to go with their program, and to pollute any future jury pool by making it clear that anyone who votes to convict Clancy will have their life destroyed.

It’s truly one of the most outrageously evil things we’ve ever seen from the Left, and that’s saying something. A direct assault on the integrity of our justice system. They are burning down every boundary and standard in their path. And doing it all for the sake of a child murdering psychopath. Unfathomable
.


If there's a retrial the jury knows what verdict is acceptable.
If she's is found not guilty she will renanded in a mental asylum.Until a doctor proves she is Okay to resume normal life.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 3:55am On Sep 14
I don't care if she's liberal, conservative white,green or yellow She strangled her 3 children one after another..
The black juror went into the details of how long that must have taken ,the 11 were aghast.
I would like those jury members to be asked point blank if they can live with her in the same house for a start.

I don't know which school taught you to make up stuff about what your political opponents must be thinking.

She jumped out of the window. If she thought she would die she would have killed the children by throwing them out of the same window. Makes sense, no? ( She absolutely knew what she was doing).



cococandy:
Nobody notified the public that this was a case between left vs right. The webs y’all love to construct and weave yourselves into.

If anything one would think that since she’s a white woman, whom you people love to pamper, cape and feel sorry for, that it’ll be a party thing for you guys to support her. Matter of fact he’s probably the leftist in this dynamic and she’s likely a conservative given she’s white and middle class.

I forgot that you love to twists yourselves into boxes no one designed for you and start crying about stupid things that one said had anything to do with you.
By the way,are you those liberal types who won't breastfeed your child so that you don't have fallen twins going South?
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f):
Are you sure you don’t care? Because the only people making this case a political party issue are you guys on the right.

Y’all have gone as far as asking for women’s voting rights to be rescinded. Such “dwim” witted behavior.

People are saying the prosecution’s case is not adding up and rightfully so. They have failed to convince majority of the jury on the merit of their case because they believed the only person alive and awake at the scene of the crime instead of actually doing a proper investigation.

They’ve muddied up the waters and because of them, those kids may never get true justice even if she did do it.

And instead of you people to use your thinking caps as intended, you’re emotionally spouting all over the place and blaming “the left” in the most asinine thought process imaginable.

Tell me again how you don’t care about what political party anyone belongs in.

basilico:
I don't care if she's liberal, conservative white,green or yellow

She strangled her 3 children one after another..
The black juror went into the details of how long that must have taken ,the 11 were aghast.
I would like those jury members to be asked point blank if they can live with her in the same house for a start.

I don't know which school taught you to make up stuff about what your political opponents must be thinking.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f): 4:09am On Sep 14
basilico:
By the way,are you those liberal types who won't breastfeed your child so that you don't have fallen twins going South?
Trust a conservative man to be a weirdo for absolutely no reason. Why are you worried about my bre*sts? Just out of the blues. What’s even the connecting thought process here?

Just having a normal conversation and bam! They hit you with weirdness. 😬😬😬
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 4:14am On Sep 14
cococandy:
All I’ve learned so far from this case is that the police came to the house where three children lay dead in the basement and their mother was unconscious, with a temperature of 80+ degrees, a crush thyroid and unable to speak.

And all the investigation they did was to accept what he said as fact and did not dig deeper.

I know there are several legal technicalities at play here being that she woke up and was told that her husband said that she said she killed the kids and tried to kill herself. She accepted that likely false memory seeing as she can’t remember anything else that happened.

And according to him, she supposedly tried to kill herself by ingesting some drugs, cutting herself in the wrists and neck and then throwing herself from a window?

Okay. lol

May them babies rest in peace. The law enforcement failed them by not doing proper investigation.

“Patrick said” is not evidence of anything.
Thanks for the recap.
That's very interesting.
It happened in my state but haven't followed it.
I see why it made national news.
Will have to catch up on the details.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by cococandy(f):
Yea another woman not long ago killed her kids in a psychotic episode or something of that nature as well and it hardly made the news at Lindsay’s level. And no one even gave her the benefit of the doubt like this case.

If I didn’t know better I’d say the prosecution wanted Lindsay to walk free because of how badly they bungled it.

The other lady was black though so I’m sure a lot of people are making the connection that Lindsay’s race might have been what earned her compassion from a bunch of her supporters.

You know how they never agree that racism is a thing in America but we have stuff like this happening.

IjeBos:
Thanks for the recap.
That's very interesting.
It happened in my state but haven't followed it.
I see why it made national news.
Will have to catch up on the details.

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 8:11am On Sep 14
cococandy:
You know they’ll still blame the immigrants instead of their daddy Trump. 😀
Wahala..
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 11:14am On Sep 14
You picked the ideals of the far right conservatives.
I picked the ideals of the far left also
They don't breastfed because boobs-boobs have to be pointed.
They can wear pink wigs.
They want abortion pills sent to them.via mail any time.

African women are conservatives in nature .I've been to Uganda where marital promiscuity is the norm ,the women dress to kill for dinner and they still kneel down before their "loving* husbands.



cococandy:
Trust a conservative man to be a weirdo for absolutely no reason. Why are you worried about my bre*sts? Just out of the blues. What’s even the connecting thought process here?

Just having a normal conversation and bam! They hit you with weirdness. 😬😬😬
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:36am On Sep 14
IjeBos:
An because the burden shifted once she used the insanity defense, the prosecution would have to prove that she was not insane beyond a reasonable doubt.
That's a really high bar.
Given the surroundings of her case, if you were on that jury would you have thought the Prosecution proved that?
I am not on that jury and have not seen the evidence presented, so I can not possibly tell how I'd judge, and my thoughts about guilt or not would be the crap I decide to create in my head like some create 2000 kraken mules in their heads and believe it exists in the real world.

We did have a jury, and one on it was not convinced that she was insane which resulted in a mistrial. And I am satisfied that justice has been served.

One shouldn't only like justice when it goes one's preffered way.
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