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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:06am On Sep 19
DeepSight:
Sharrap guy man or send me your number by email. I need to explain it.
Explain here .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
raumdeuter:
The art of a deal

Trump did it again
Why can't he use that money to pay for healthcare.In jest.
**Looking at this deal ,this a master class**

No non NATO bases to be ever established locking out China and Russia who've been making moves to exploit Greenland resources.

Lifetime security control at no cost. Greenland still under Danish control . Unlimited overflight throughout Greenland air space.

Win Win . Despite the rhetoric about a military invasion and tariffing the EU, everyone walks way a winner. The Greenlanders will suddenly have thousands of high spenders on their soil. Canadian PM was bragging about protecting Greenland.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:34am On Sep 19
Anything I put in quotes is direct copy and paste. That's an American who is happy and you seated thousands of miles away know better than him


bayelsaowei:
Chai ya.. Trump the philanthropist, Trump the loving & caring Daddy, Trump the good man.. 😢😢😢.

Suddenly That Trump has stripped millions of Americans off Medicaid/medicare.. suddenly that Trump has thrown average Americans into an affordability crisis.. suddenly that empathetic Trump has frozen congressional approved funds to states he doesn’t not like.

What happened to the good old Trump?

Mr Basilico the campaign manager.. back to you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:41am On Sep 19
Show me a single article by those media houses that has ever praised Trump.
A single one.

If I was him I'd investigate them for racketeering.


PDPGuy:
Trump is banning CNN, MS NOW and Politico from the White House over coverage he calls “fake news”—and says other outlets could follow.

That puts America in uncomfortable company. North Korea, Eritrea and Turkmenistan tightly control the press. Putin’s Russia has criminalized independent war reporting. Ortega’s Nicaragua has driven much of its independent press into exile. A free press is not the enemy. It’s a check on power.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 7:11am On Sep 19
basilico:
Show me a single article by those media houses that has ever praised Trump.
A single one.

If I was him I'd investigate them for racketeering.
Sorry, they aren't praising your demigod. To you he is a god that is infallible, To others he is just a charlatan in power that must be held to account for his actions. Press are not praise singers, you this clown!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Konkoja:
Sorry, they aren't praising your demigod. To you he is a god that is infallible, To others he is just a charlatan in power that must be held to account for his actions. Press are not praise singers, you this clown!
You don't have to resort to insults if you have a personal problem with Trump admin,I wasn't there when Trump ate your goat.
I'd kick them out if I was the one. The media houses are nothing but democrat propagandists .
Take two of these CNN hoaxes only and explain what eventually happened.
Or forever hold your peace.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:00pm On Sep 19
Konkoja:
Sorry, they aren't praising your demigod. To you he is a god that is infallible, To others he is just a charlatan in power that must be held to account for his actions. Press are not praise singers, you this clown!
See this too.


CNN CALLED THE BLACK PIPE BOMBER WHITE AND THE ISIS ATTACK NOT ISIS — TATUM HAS RECEIPTS

Brandon Tatum didn't editorialize much. He just lined up four CNN flubs back to back and let the pattern speak for itself: every time the network gets a breaking story wrong, it gets wrong in the same direction.

Start with the DC pipe bomb case. CNN's Jake Tapper described suspect Brian Cole Jr. on air as "a 30-year-old White man from the DC suburbs." Minutes later, CNN aired his booking photo. Cole is Black.
Tapper had to correct himself the next day: "I mistakenly said that the suspect was White. Obviously, as the photo revealed, he's Black."

Then there's the Gracie Mansion bombing. Two teens threw an ISIS-inspired explosive device at a crowd near Mayor Zohran Mamdani's residence. CNN's first post left out the ISIS motivation entirely — later admitting the post "failed to reflect the gravity of the incident." When anchor Abby Phillip finally caught up, she got the target backwards too, claiming the attack was "against" Mamdani when it was actually thrown at anti-Islam protesters outside his home. She had to walk that back as well.

Tatum's other two examples — a male athlete CNN keeps calling "she" in women's sports coverage, and the network's breathless 2024 reporting that Joe Biden was in "intense debate preparation" at Camp David, later revealed by insiders to mean days of napping — round out a pattern that isn't random.

Wrong race, wrong target, wrong gender, wrong story. Alwa


Nearly all my posts are about the lies that are repeated every day by media and democrats. Or when they take news reporting completely out of context. I'm.more concerned about the false narratives media push day in day out.

When it comes to infallibility, Obama supporters take the gold medal.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:07pm On Sep 19
basilico:
Show me a single article by those media houses that has ever praised Trump.
A single one.

If I was him I'd investigate them for racketeering.
I don't even care if the media is anti Trump. He shouldn't ban them rather he should in their face be challenging their lies regularly
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:08pm On Sep 19
Covid shenanigans are another pet topic I frequently post here whenever I one across anything interesting and worth saving for future reference.


Camus
@newstart_2024
Shocking...
Dr. James Thorp, a maternal-fetal medicine specialist and former OBGYN board examiner, dropped testimony that should be headline news everywhere.

Here is what he revealed:

1. The Data Manipulation
Canada and US databases counted COVID vaccine injuries and deaths as "unvaccinated" for 2-3 weeks after the jab. Those killed or injured by the vaccine were erased from the statistics.

2. Pfizer 5.3.6 Data (Legally Mandated)
• 42,086 casualties in just 70 days
• 1,223 dead
• 25% died on day one
• Injured-to-killed ratio: 33.4 (wars are less than 10)
• They cut the data off at 70 days instead of the required 90
• They tried to hide this for 75 years

3. Miscarriage Data
• Pfizer 5.3.6: 81% miscarriage rate
• Shimabukuro raw data: 82%
• Dr. Naomi Wolf (independent): 82%
• The NEJM study was "ghostwritten" and diluted the denominator by including 700 women who got the shot after 28 weeks (when miscarriage is impossible). Real rate: 82%.

4. The NEJM Money Trail
The US government paid the New England Journal of Medicine $426,000. Rochelle Walensky (who had never practiced OBGYN) was invited to write an op-ed pushing the vaccine on pregnant women. Dr. Thorp: "This is an abomination of truth."

5. "Long COVID" is a Masquerade
MIT study on v-safe data (10 million people):
• 1.87% had significant symptoms 3+ months post-vaccination
• That's 630,000 Canadians and 5 million Americans with vaccine injury, not "Long COVID"
• Dr. Thorp: "90% of Long COVID is vaccine injury."

6. The Threat to Doctors
The American Board of OBGYN sent a letter to 62,000 doctors: Follow the protocol or lose your license. Dr. Thorp responded with a 98-page letter citing 1,019 peer-reviewed studies showing injuries.

7. The Pregnancy Safety Signals
• 1,200-fold increase in menstrual irregularities
• 271-fold increase in miscarriage vs. flu vaccine
• 22 stillbirths in Fresno (statistically impossible)
• 13 stillbirths in 24 hours at Lionsgate Hospital, BC
• Fetal malformations significantly increased

8. The Suppressed Research
Dr. Thorp: "We are looking at the effect of the vaccine on ovarian reserve... IRB approved, no funding. Nobody wants to fund this."
Turkish study: 60% of primary ovarian follicles killed in rodents.
Czech Republic: 30% reduction in birth rates.

9. They Knew
January 25, 2021 emails. Fauci's diary. Andrew Weissman (Nobel laureate) emailed Fauci about animal data showing safety signals in amniotic fluid. Fauci buried it.

Dr. Thorp's conclusion:
"They lied. They hid the safety signals. We have the receipts. We know where the bones are buried."

This is testimony under oath.


Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:38pm On Sep 19
raumdeuter:
I don't even care if the media is anti Trump. He shouldn't ban them rather he should in their face be challenging their lies regularly
Well one day the media propaganda has to give way.Its unsustainable. It's the Democrat PR organ.
I'd think Trump has done a very good job taking questions and sitting for hours long Interviews with these media nutjobs.
Democrats get soft ball leading questions, with Trump it's always confrontational with the hacks always looking for a gotcha moment
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:49pm On Sep 19
raumdeuter:
I don't even care if the media is anti Trump. He shouldn't ban them rather he should in their face be challenging their lies regularly
They don't care; it is the same media that will lie on top of the challenge. The media has never been about truth, so I don't really care if Trump allows them or not
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:12pm On Sep 19
basilico:
Well one day the media propaganda has to give way.Its unsustainable. It's the Democrat PR organ.
I'd think Trump has done a very good job taking questions and sitting for hours long Interviews with these media nutjobs.
Democrats get soft ball leading questions, with Trump it's always confrontational with the hacks always looking for a gotcha moment
bemeruca:
They don't care; it is the same media that will lie on top of the challenge. The media has never been about truth, so I don't really care if Trump allows them or not
Challenging them to their face and calling out their lies is what Trump does best and I have seen Rubio do this with panache

Not having them there makes it look like they are the victim but showing them to be liars in real time actually helps
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:29pm On Sep 19
raumdeuter:
Challenging them to their face and calling out their lies is what Trump does best and I have seen Rubio do this with panache

Not having them there makes it look like they are the victim but showing them to be liars in real time actually helps
He has been doing that, they still cry as if they are the victims. Trump has nothing to lose. He has tried the option you proposed as well, at this point, I don't care.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie:
[quote author = wwwtortoise post=140597074]Yes, there are significant differences in outcomes between populations, and we shouldn’t be afraid to acknowledge that. But HDI, income or national productivity don’t automatically prove inherent racial differences in ability. Countries are shaped by institutions, capital, education, infrastructure, technology, history and incentives.

The Korea Vs Nigeria comparison actually illustrates this. Korea’s success tells us a lot about the environment and institutions it built; it doesn’t necessarily tell us that Koreans are inherently more capable than Nigerians.

The more interesting question, in my view, is why some societies are much better at converting human potential into prosperity. That’s a serious question. Turning the answer into a racial hierarchy is a much bigger claim and one these statistics alone don’t establish.


I’ll like to read your thoughts on this.
[/quote]I've already stated the answer to your query in my comments. Your asking me to clarify shows that you're like most people...you simply can't bring yourself to ACCEPT truth that you regard as an affront to what you PERCIEVE as your dignity or self worth. The short answer is IQ or low brain power. I mean I did a step by step explanation above at a very BASIC level that any university graduate can understand.

The Black American economist and philosopher Thomas Sowell had a famous statement on this tendency - : "When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear"

To be popular and gain social capital on Nairaland, one should adopt the view that Negroes are just as capable as other races in productivity and generating HDI, but have been stifled by racism, oppression, White Colonialism and Capitalism. Nairaland is so liberal & woke that at a point, the word "NEGRO" was banned until I complained about it.

That's the short answer....below is a longer reformulated recap of the truth previously stated.

The Masai and Dinka are Negro tribes that are generally very tall. The POTENTIAL for growing tall is DETERMINED by genetics, but environment influences the extent to which such potential is achieved. So a Dinka raised in persistent food scarcity in say, Haiti or Yemen may achieve 5ft 11in which is still tall, but his fellows raised in the USA will likely surpass 6ft 2in.

Exact same thing applies to the brain. Its functionality and maximum/minimum potential is determined by DNA and influenced by environment. The good thing about population IQ is that that it can change over generations.

Nigerians CAN'T built the kind of institutions with credibility that South Korea built. So the country doesn't have an environment that can bring forth good HDI from whatever intellect exists there. Nigerians don't possess the ABILITY, intellect, IQ level or emotional fitness to figure out the means and compromises that made South Korea so rich and North Korea so militarily powerful. By the way, North Korea right is getting its economic life in order as a CONSEQUENCE of having achieved almost total security/immunity from foreign attack for itself and its ruling family.

A comparison between countries built by the Korean tribe and countries built by the Igbo tribe or the Malay tribe shows that the Koreans and Malays are MORE CAPABLE, yes it does. The RESULTS are evident, they're visible. Migration is oft a good short hand for these comparisons. There's a good flow of Igbo and Yoruba migrants to both Malaysia and South Korea but not vice versa.

EVIDENCE.

I've often pointed out the error of the Lancaster Conferences. The British offered Nigerians a chance had to arrange their country/countries in ways that incorporate some of the factors KNOWN to engender high HDI. Nigerians refused, the Igbo were largely responsible for that. Other countries like India utilized their Lancaster Conferences to structurally adjust their conditions, India was just a decade ahead of Nigeria in decolonization. Malaysia had a sort of delayed implementation of their Lancaster Conference determination.


In 2012, President Jonathan & Ngozi Iweala begged Nigerians to accept the removal of fuel subsidies.
Ms Iweala shed tears, her emotional pleas to the country still give me chills when I recall those times. Jonathan even predicted...I saved the quote but just take this approximation..."keeping the fuel subsidy will destroy the Nigerian economy in 3 years".

But no, the Yoruba led by Tinubu and Fula led by Buhari used the subsidy to whip up protests in Lagos and drive Jonathan from power. Guess what? Fuel subsidy bankrupted Nigeria, President Buhari ADMITTED that much in one of his later budget speeches, I think in 2022. And now the same President Tinubu has abolished the subsidy AFTER the economy had already been destroyed.

Nigerians SOLD their own kind to strange alien races from across the seas. The equivalent today would be if SPACE ALIENS came to earth and some races start selling other humans to them, to be carried away into deep space. Nigerians actually did that. And now PROUDLY compete with the descendants of the slaves they sold for the pittance given by the White Man as recompense.

On this very thread, some participants have pointed out important inventions by Negroes. It's notable that 99% of ALL of the inventors worked, reside or resided in White Caucasian countries. I'm willing to be corrected if this is false.

I just came across a stunning statistic in an argument comparing to Canada to USA. About 1% of counties in the USA are responsible for nearly 50% or 46% of all murders. Also, compare the murder rates in say....Vermont, New Hampshire, Iowa and Utah to states like Alabama, Texas, Georgia and California. So Europe has much lower homicide rates because of what?

Hmmmm and why did Sweden go from being a CRIME FREE country to become the recent gun murder capital of Europe? lipsrsealed What happened in Sweden biko? What changed? I urge everyone to go check, because Sweden didn't colonize any 3rd World Country o and yet it has one of the highest HDI in the world.....it's a mystery because all races are supposedly equal, the thing is a mystery.

There is NO SINGLE Negro dominated country in the world with high HDI without a substantive White Caucasian population that dominates the economy. Zimbabwe chased out White people and the Afro-supremacists claim the resulting poverty was due to sanctions. Yet Nigeria that hasn't been under sanctions since 1999 and is a major producer of the most valuable natural commodity in the world, has been the Poverty Capital of the World since 2018....and not even Chinese benevolence has rescued either country grin

It's alright. Nigeria will be great again.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:57pm On Sep 19
bemeruca:
He has been doing that, they still cry as if they are the victims. Trump has nothing to lose. He has tried the option you proposed as well, at this point, I don't care.
I think he is winning on that because less and less Americans now trust in the media unlike before

When you don't challenge them publicly they run in their silo unchallenged

One of the biggest things that happened in the last 15yrs is demystifying the legacy media unlike before where their words would have been authority
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m):
basilico:
Anything I put in quotes is direct copy and paste. That's an American who is happy and you seated thousands of miles away know better than him
Campaign manager basilico..

You go explain you go tire..😅😅

Let me add.. remember even folks like Pablo Escobar did some good humanitarian works too, whilst still pushing drugs and killing many people.

You and Trump will be alright.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:13pm On Sep 19
basilico:
You don't have to resort to insults if you have a personal problem with Trump admin,I wasn't there when Trump ate your goat.
I'd kick them out if I was the one. The media houses are nothing but democrat propagandists .
Take two of these CNN hoaxes only and explain what eventually happened.
Or forever hold your peace.
You’d be a dictator.. that’s all you just wrote.

A shameless one like your god Trump.

Continue in your delusions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:15pm On Sep 19
raumdeuter:
I don't even care if the media is anti Trump. He shouldn't ban them rather he should in their face be challenging their lies regularly
You speak like Trump is a man of truth. A serial and perennial liar!!!

Everytime he opens his mouth he lies. And I mean everytime. The media is there to fact check the hell out of him, because worshippers like you won’t.

It’s the reason he banned them. But they’ll be back. Because a court injunction in line with the constitution of the United States will bring them back. This ain’t North Korea or Russia
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:19pm On Sep 19
bemeruca:
He has been doing that, they still cry as if they are the victims. Trump has nothing to lose. He has tried the option you proposed as well, at this point, I don't care.
How would you care?

The world must hold Trump accountable for his silliness, malfeasance and serial lies. Yes!!!

Trump has a lot to lose. He is a pdf, sex offender and a felon. The media will always continue to remind him, his grifting family and cronies of who they are. And soon, posterity would mete out justice to him/them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:34pm On Sep 19
raumdeuter:
I think he is winning on that because less and less Americans now trust in the media unlike before

When you don't challenge them publicly they run in their silo unchallenged

One of the biggest things that happened in the last 15yrs is demystifying the legacy media unlike before where their words would have been authority
People are gullible; those of us who know, know. Trump is not ready to deal with their nonsense, and I don't blame him.

We know what's going on, and it's not because Trump confronted them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:57pm On Sep 19
raumdeuter:
Hated by who? Denmark or Greenland the 2 concerned parties who just signed a deal with the US? Or who

Cost? What did it cost the US
No, they are loved by the country they spent almost two years trashing and saying they will take over.
And the US is also loved by the rest of the world who saw the US doing this to them and the same to other allies.
Everything every leader like Carney says, the sentiments of people who live there and the polls in those countries are all wrong.
Raumdeuter knows better than all available information and rational thought.

You MAGA are insufferuble.
You live in a delusional world and think you can lie your way out of reality, and make everyone else live in your delusional world as well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:02pm On Sep 19
raumdeuter:
I think he is winning on that because less and less Americans now trust in the media unlike before

When you don't challenge them publicly they run in their silo unchallenged

One of the biggest things that happened in the last 15yrs is demystifying the legacy media unlike before where their words would have been authority
Yes, we know you listen to non-legacy media and mostly everything you write in this thread is truthful. /s
We have a percentage of people who live in the US who are lied to daily, can't figure out they are lied to daily or don't seem to care.
And those people went and voted for a man who is taking a wrecking ball to the US.

I can't believe anyone sees what's been happening the last 2 years and says, yeah the problem was the legacy media.
No, the problem was the indoctrination from places like Fox, Twitter and new media like Joe Rogan.
In fact the legacy media was 100% right about Trump. Trump's lies, craziness, the corruption, getting us into wars. etc.etc.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:04pm On Sep 19
bayelsaowei:
Madness at its peak..

How does banning them make the situation or the lives of Americans any better? 😅😅
I thought they said it’s the Democrats who can’t stand difference in opinions 🤣🤣

What happens when the media are calling out your incessant pathetic lies and won’t sing your praises daily like fauxnews? Ban them!

That’s how to accommodate difference in opinions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:07pm On Sep 19
And so have many people lost their lives to American born white men.

Matter of fact more people lose their lives to white men than to immigrants.

Should we eliminate all white men?
basilico:
Cococandy , you can wax lyrical about the negative illegal immigrants perception by the racist conservatives.
If this happened to you ,you'll sing a different tune.
She lost her newly.wed son and his bride in a car accident caused by an illegal alien holding a California CDL.

Majority are peaceful and just want to make their lives worthwhile.
ICE has a long list of violent people who should have been removed .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:09pm On Sep 19
If they lie about it enough it’ll change the truth and suddenly what is will no longer be:

Trump will no longer be this crazy, lying pathetic failure of a president.

If they close their eyes tightly and cross their fingers as they recite the lies, reality might change 😄🤣
IjeBos:
Yes, we know you listen to non-legacy media and mostly everything you write in this thread is truthful. /s
We have a percentage of people who live in the US who are lied to daily, can't figure out they are lied to daily or don't seem to care.
And those people went and voted for a man who is taking a wrecking ball to the US.

I can't believe anyone sees what's been happening the last 2 years and says, yeah the problem was the legacy media.
No, the problem was the indoctrination from places like Fox, Twitter and new media like Joe Rogan.
In fact the legacy media was 100% right about Trump. Trump's lies, craziness, the corruption, getting us into wars. etc.etc.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:13pm On Sep 19
budaatum:
You and I are acting as jurors on the decision of the jury on this case, and there is no reason whatsoever for us to agree. But it would be very stupid of me to claim you should have voted as I do, or that you are not considering the evidence if you do not agree with me.

The prosecution did not prove its case beyond the reasonable doubt of 11 jurors, and the defence failed to convince one juror. Still, the jury has done its duty and I am very satisfied with their collective decision.

The prosecution can after all retry the case, though I can see more than one juror holding out if they do, and just for the sake of it.
I'm trying to separate myself from the jurors and focusing on what their job was.
Their job was to set their biases aside, follow the law and vote based on the jury instructions whether they liked the law or not.
He told the other jurors he had reasonable doubt (have no reason to believe all 11 are lying when they said that) and by his words "was trying to figure out theories" (not his job). Therefore, he should have voted not guilty by reason of insanity.
It's binary.
You don't' have reasonable doubts about what the prosecution said, guilty.
You have reasonable doubts about what the prosecution said, not guilty by insanity. That was his job.

Now he could have decided he didn't like the law and even though he had reasonable doubt, just nullified the jury by voting guilty (without insanity). But he should be honest about that.

So, I do appreciate the convesation. From what I know of you, I think your justice minded, so your opinion here had to make me reevaluate why I thought what I thought. And I did. And I've come to the conclusion that you may have a bias here (no disrespect). Because I can't reconcile with what I believe is your justice mindedness, with what you believe about this case, with the fact of the case (as presented to the jury).
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:18pm On Sep 19
cococandy:
If they lie about it enough it’ll change the truth and suddenly what is will no longer be:

Trump will no longer be this crazy, lying pathetic failure of a president.

If they close their eyes tightly and cross their fingers as they recite the lies, reality might change 😄🤣
I always think to what end? What is their goal for running cover for a crazy person who is making their life harder?
Of course, boils back down to them being super emotional people whose emotions are irrational tied into Trump being seen doing well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:33pm On Sep 19
cococandy:
I thought they said it’s the Democrats who can’t stand difference in opinions 🤣🤣

What happens when the media are calling out your incessant pathetic lies and won’t sing your praises daily like fauxnews? Ban them!

That’s how to accommodate difference in opinions.
Don’t mind them..

All the lies from their god has tied all of their necks,.. so next thing is to ban media houses..

How can one man tell so many lies to so many people..

The same media that allowed him spew rubbish about his predecessors is the same media he wants to ban.

Rubbish!!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:45pm On Sep 19
IjeBos:
Yes, we know you listen to non-legacy media and mostly everything you write in this thread is truthful. /s
We have a percentage of people who live in the US who are lied to daily, can't figure out they are lied to daily or don't seem to care.
And those people went and voted for a man who is taking a wrecking ball to the US.

I can't believe anyone sees what's been happening the last 2 years and says, yeah the problem was the legacy media.
No, the problem was the indoctrination from places like Fox, Twitter and new media like Joe Rogan.
In fact the legacy media was 100% right about Trump. Trump's lies, craziness, the corruption, getting us into wars. etc.etc.
The media he believes is the one that says (twist obvious truth) the Jan 6th insurrection against the capitol never happened. That infact the insurrectionists are the victims of that incident... Trump would turn truth upside down and his docile followers would absorb it hook line and sinker.

Trumps followers would believe Trumps words over video evidence.

Lunacy at its peak.

And they want the world and media houses to stand by and watch him lie everyday..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:00pm On Sep 19
IjeBos:
I'm trying to separate myself from the jurors and focusing on what their job was.
Their job was to set their biases aside, follow the law and vote based on the jury instructions whether they liked the law or not.
He told the other jurors he had reasonable doubt (have no reason to believe all 11 are lying when they said that) and by his words "was trying to figure out theories" (not his job). Therefore, he should have voted not guilty by reason of insanity.
It's binary.
Evaluating competing explanations and drawing reasonable inferences from evidence is precisely part of deliberation (his job)

He says he had no doubt about her criminal responsibility and when he was discussing different possible theories, the others interpreted that as him having doubt.

"I have no reason to believe 11 people are lying" of course!!! You can stick to your false choice.

You don't know better than the judge who questioned them individually, and this issue arose; the defence was making noise about it that the holdout guy should be removed, but the judge did not remove him.
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