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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 1:27pm On Sep 20 |
bayelsaowei:I am not obligated to be outraged because you are outraged. Again, I don't care. If he blocks them, I think they deserve it. They will go to court and likely be reinstated, but again, I don't care that he banned them. This is how you equate socialism/communism with Jesus because Jesus teach people to care for the poor. You will just take one feature you think sounds similar and then apply the entire political scope to it. So you are here with totalitarianism. I know for sure if Fox were banned by Biden, you would not have cared. I know this for sure: 1000% 1 Like |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 1:35pm On Sep 20 |
Budaatum talked about DEI in converse matter, he has seen one or two gullible victims talking about DEI, so he kicked into parroting mode. Black people at Converse approved the ad. They hold positions that make decisions on things like that ad.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by TV01(m): 1:36pm On Sep 20*. Modified: 1:55pm On Sep 20 |
IbeOkehie:The statement in bold I will gainsay - unless of course there exist the data and analytics to validate it. It's too much of a reach, doing way too much heavy lifting. As for the latter part, we can see that clearly in countries that already have HDI - case in question, Sweden, which you pointed out. Is an IQ drop the reason for Swedens current malaise? Your thesis leaves too many questions unanswered; what is the minimum higher level required? Individually, nationally, amongst the cohort that drives development? What is the minimum floor? What happens if IQ drops, does development cease? Does regression set in? Upstream of IQ (in as much as IQ plays a part) are thing which I consider more critical. Things such as beliefs, traditions, history etc. This more accurately aligns with what we see lived out. And answers all the cases you cited, such as Sweden and black inventors. Nor can IQ and its correlation to race be determinant. It's a curve right? All races have distributions stretching to both extremes. Whites\westerners do not have the highest IQ's, but relatively higher standards of living and liberal progressive societies - at present. Take Medhi Hassan for example. Clearly high IQ. Oxbridge educated. Access to the best of the western milieu. But his north star is clearly to further the cause of his fundamentalist-from which no nation with high HDI has or can ever arise. In terms of driving or even maintaining HDI, his high IQ count for nought. Closer to home and more broadly, if the Yoruba belief that smallpox had it's own deity persisted, they are unlikely to have ever come across a cure. Not intentionally anyway. Note also, driving and maintaining HDI is for many countries more a question of adopting best practices. That is more readily done in cultures that have the right upstream make-up. Afterall, how high does the average IQ have to be to solve for open defacation? To your question, firstly not so much environment. I make no claims regards, weather terrain etc. Secondly culture and it's underpinnings, yes, way more so. They determine the direction that human endeavour and enterprise can take. How enabling they are for things like IQ amongst other qualities to make a meaningful difference. TV 1 Like |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:45pm On Sep 20 |
It is these sort of lïes that make me ignore you. Just see how you went from "The problem is…most of the people who approved this ad ARE LIKELY BLACK!" that you yourself posted, to what you are now claiming with no knowledge or evidence whatsoever. And if I give you the opportunity you'd waste my time arguing what you have no knowledge of. bemeruca:Dude, you are a black person. I can see your type approving this like you approve of dump. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 1:46pm On Sep 20 |
This reminds of an incident during Obamas campaign before he became president and during the first year of his presidency. He briefly excluded Fox News from a round of interviews with executive officials attempting to treat the network as an “ideological opponent” rather than a news outlet. Guess what? Other news stations including left wing news organizations like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS stood in solidarity with Fox News by refusing to conduct any interview rounds at all without Fox News involved. The result? The Obama administration shrinked back from moving ahead with its exclusion of Fox News or even thinking of banning the news network. What is wrong is wrong. The American constitution (first amendment) supersedes the feelings or emotions of any president.. Bemeruca, basilico..condemn what is bad.. it won’t kill you guys to be sincere and moral sometimes (even though we know you both are lost) |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 1:51pm On Sep 20 |
budaatum:You literally added things that are not there to get what you miss. The image had nothing to do with lynching. If you can make lynching out of it, that is your problem. I'd say you should seek help, therapy or something. The Converse logo is a star; their colors are black and white. You made a KKK robe out of it. You are the one who needs DEI here for your KKK image, not Converse. Every time it seems as if you guys can't live without the KKK.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 2:04pm On Sep 20 |
Like I said. A black man like you who can not see "literally added things" just as you can't see anything dump adds to anything. But I forgive you. You know very little of context in USA. bemeruca: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 2:06pm On Sep 20 |
bayelsaowei:you answered your own question here. You were asking if Obama or Biden banned the press. Like I said, they should go to court. They will probably be reinstated, but I don't care that he banned them. Banning them has nothing to do with totalitarianism. If they are bad and hostile to him, why would you call him bad for not wanting to deal with them? You can argue the legal perspective of this, but you cannot say he did it because he is a bad man. They have been bad to him, and he does not want to deal with them. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 2:08pm On Sep 20 |
budaatum:The video is there, an Asian woman did the ad in Asia, you added leg, make eye holes to her robe to make the image seem like kkk. You are the ones adding things and I am calling BS to what you are adding. Chavon Webster, global VP for footwear and design. They need DEI? Nope 1 Like
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 2:21pm On Sep 20 |
Yes they obviously do need DEI. Especially if they still want to claim they can not see the added legs and the added eyes that have been added in so they can't continue to miss them. And stop conflating DEI with being black please. You are black with zero DEI awareness or knowledge. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 2:40pm On Sep 20 |
budaatum:I showed you diversity, I am not conflating blacks to DEI. Projecting symbolism onto an ordinary Converse composition is your problem. 1 Like |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 2:49pm On Sep 20 |
bemeruca:Projecting symbolism on things is a human nature thing, but I do understand your lack of it. In Buddhism we describe your sort as finger observers.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 2:52pm On Sep 20 |
bemeruca:You don’t care or you lack the ability to condemn what is bad when it is done by Trump? You’re just a typical Trump worshiper.. You can’t on one hand say you don’t care, but on the other hand say the likes of CNN deserves the ban because they talk bad about Trump. Who the hell is Trump that people can’t talk bad about ? Is he God? Mind you Obama didn’t ban Fox News. He only briefly excluded the news network from specific events. Which was also wrong for him to have done in direct conflict with the first amendment. Trump issuing an organizational ban is taking it to the next level. It’s a dictators move. If Biden ever tried to do the same, I would have condemned him.. Democrats would have condemned him. After all they stood in solidarity with Fox News when Obama was president. Biden wouldn’t have tried any such thing because of lessons learned during the Obamas administration and also understanding fully the length & breath of the American constitution. Can you right here and right now condemn Trumps actions? No you can’t!!!!… Just keep worshipping Trump, hope you get paid someday for doing it.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 2:58pm On Sep 20 |
budaatum:Projection is human nature, hmmm, so why did your mind specifically project the KKK onto the ad instead of any of the countless other things that image could resemble? You're not merely observing symbolism-you're choosing a very specific symbolism and then acting as though the image itself objectively contains it. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 2:58pm On Sep 20*. Modified: 3:30pm On Sep 20 |
Fact: Joe Biden's White House purged 442 reporters from the WH in 2023; The media was silent, in fact, most people didn't even know it happened. The same previously silent media is now calling it a constitutional crisis that President Donald Trump is banning CNN, MS NOW, and Politico from the White House for repeatedly reporting false news. Trump made the announcement saying those outlets constantly publish "fake news." Today Secret Service agents deactivated and confiscated badges from the three outlets - who then called the move an illegal assault on the First Amendment and said they would fight it in court.However, those three outlets said absolutely nothing when Biden axed 442 reporters from the White House. In May 2023, the Biden White House Press Office emailed pass holders that all existing credentials would expire July 31. Reporters then had to reapply and adhere to new rules. 442 reporters got cut with the White House saying it had the power to deny passes for conduct it judged as unprofessional. In early August 2023: hard passes fell from 1,417 to 975 which is 442 fewer. That is a 31% drop.The Trump administration restored the press passes of the 442 journalists whose passes were revoked by Biden.Republicans say the liberal outrage is selective. When 3 outlets who routinely post false news stories lose their passes, networks treat it as an emergency.When hundreds of hard passes were axed under Biden - including at conservative and independent shops that can't get a second gallery credential - the same liberal outlets shrug.WHCA leadership that later called Trump's pool changes an attack on a free press had almost nothing to say in 2023.White House access has always been a security-controlled privilege, not a constitutional right for any network, and the fact that hundreds still have access shows the move is not restricting freedom of the press. bayelsaowei:I have not taken it down..I posted it twice yesterday,,challenged cococandy and konkoja to pick two hoaxes peddled and explain why such a media house should be allowed.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IbeOkehie: 3:03pm On Sep 20*. Modified: 11:18pm On Sep 21 |
Trump immigration restrictions have ignited a financial uplift for healthcare workers. The thing is simply explosive. Those who have read me on Nairaland know I often bring up oil & gas specialist engineers in Nigeria who earn $1K per day as examples of regular people earning more than those in diaspora. Well, regular employed nurses in the USA are now "among". And the beautiful thing is that nursing is a major occupation in the middle classes of the Nigerian diaspora. One of the major causes of this earning bonanza is the immigration restrictions imposed by President Trump. From Google Gemini - note they quote the very liberal Axios Media Restrictive immigration policies in 2026 are driving up overall healthcare labor costs and pushing wages higher as foreign nurse pipelines shrink.📈Three hospitals in my metro area declared a nursing labor shortage. I read one of the emails. They're now paying DOUBLE OVERTIME pay. A family member works there and is now clocking $1200 on every extra shift. Nursing Agencies are desperately offering $100/hr to cover contracted shifts. Remember, President Trump fought for and won the battle to implement NO TAX ON OVERTIME. Most Red States have implemented it. It's the Blue States that REFUSED to implement this wonderful incentive for Americans who want to work hard and earn for their families. People should think about that for a moment. Trump also made sure that a law was passed to PREVENT tax increases and even lower them. I think he also permanently banned most federal taxes on inheritance. So whatever money a family accumulated can be safely and efficiently passed on to their children. Hospitals around here are placing ads offering $25K to $40K bonuses to get nurses. Same thing but a more moderate $10K in the market for pharmacists, physical therapists etc. There's no better, more PRACTICAL and straightforward reason to support President Trump than this DIRECT POSITIVE IMPACT on wages for health workers and also truckers and HVAC technicians and electricians who are benefitting from the IMMEDIATE EXPENSING of capital investments under the Big Beautiful Bill.... 👍🏾 👏 The Democrats and moderate RINO Republicans said they needed a new law AND $150 billion to close the border. Trump proved them wrong. 🙄 That's why I support Trump, it's made a difference in my life, measurable in DOLLARS in my wallet. And nobody has to take my word for it, go and read ANY news source or ask any nurse or health worker in the USA. Good Luck to Nigerians. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 3:06pm On Sep 20 |
The Supreme Court ruled 50-years-ago that news organizations are not entitled to access to places or information the government controls - shutting down any clam by CNN that President Trump's decision to revoke the press-passes for three organizations violates its constitutional rights. Houchins v. KQED (1978), the justices held that the First Amendment is neither a Freedom of Information Act nor an Official Secrets Act.The press’s core protection is the right to communicate information once it has been obtained, not a right to collect it from the government. Pell v. Procunier (1974) and related cases established that the press has no constitutional right to information or locations not available to the public generally. Zemel v. Rusk (1965) stated that the right to speak and publish does not carry with it an unrestrained right to gather information, and that entry into the White House is not a First Amendment right. Those rulings have never been overruled. President Donald Trump announced on Friday that CNN, MS NOW, and Politico were banned from the White House effective immediately because they constantly publishes information that is blatantly false.The President told reporters in the Oval Office those organizations can write whatever they choose; but because they are dishonest he does not have to let them into the people’s house. Today Secret Service agents deactivated and confiscated hard passes when CNN, MS NOW, and Politico reporters arrived at the press entrance.CNN called the move an illegal assault on a constitutionally protected right to report without government hindrance.MS NOW and Politico said they would take every step to defend their First Amendment rights. Conservatives point out that the three outlets still have cameras, websites, sources, and nationwide reach. He did not ban them from operating.What they lost is a privilege - workspace, West Wing proximity, and pool access - that ordinary citizens never receive.White House press access is a courtesy the executive can manage, not a legal entitlement. The organizations will sue, but the Highest Court already ruled bayelsaowei: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 3:19pm On Sep 20 |
bayelsaowei:I don't share your emotional investment in CNN's access. I don't care means I don't care. You keep asking the same question hoping I'll eventually give you the answer you want. Yes, they were banned. Yes, I think they brought a lot of the hostility on themselves. No, I'm not outraged about it, personally or not. If CNN challenges the ban in court and wins, okay. If Trump decide to reverses it tomorrow, fine. You won't see me complaining that the courts or Trump allowed them back. That's what I don't care means. No sympathy for these particular organizations, Yes. “Trump worship” and “support for totalitarianism.” That's your argument, not mine, not reality. I could say trying to sugarcoat Obama is worship but what's the point? Trump restrict access, Obama did. Different scale? Okay, dispute was still about an administration deciding that a hostile news organization shouldn't receive the same access. So Obama did it regardless of your sugarcoating. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 3:24pm On Sep 20 |
Democrats have a history of trying to censor "misinformation," and "hate" speech while justifying the need to police speech online, saying that Freedom of Speech is not absolute. DCDemocrats have a history of trying to censor "misinformation" and "hate" speech while justifying the need to police speech online, saying that freedom of speech is not absolute. Critics are pointing out the hypocrisy of the left for erupting in anger over three outlets losing their privilege of having special access to the White House. These same Democrats advocated for removing people and their speech from online platforms, saying they 'abused' their free speech right and posted misinformation. Elon Musk's release of the Twitter files showed a documented history of the Biden administration shutting down conservative speech, removing people from then-Twitter, and removing posts that went against their narrative. A few examples: Kamala Harris: "His twitter account should be suspended. The privilege of using those words in that way should probably be taken from him""Twitter should be shut down, it's a matter of safety and corporate accountability 'Tim Walz: "There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy""No right given to people in the United States is absolute and that includes the right to free speech. We are simply trying to create factually accurate information and to prevent harm to people" Jen Psaki: "You shouldn't be banned from one platform and not others for providing misinformation""We are in regular touch with the social media platforms...""We're flagging problematic posts on social media that spread disinformation.""Social media platforms need to move more quickly to remove harmful violative posts." Dan Goldman: "The First amendment is not absolute." Hillary Clinton:"There are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda, and whether they should be civilly or in some cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrent.""I strongly believe that section 230 has far outlived its use and it is now a real vessel for evil""If they don't moderate and monitor the content we lose total control...""There has to be not just an American reckoning but a global reckoning with the disinformation, with the monopolistic power and control, with the lack of accountability that the platforms currently enjoy. "You're going to hear all of the usual complaints -- you know, 'freedom of speech,' etc. But if we truly are in a war against terrorism... then we've got to shut off their means of communicating." 1 Like |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 3:29pm On Sep 20 |
Raumdeuter, bayelsaowei another reason why I don't care
The same people(bayelsaowei) who cry about cnn are like this:
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 3:44pm On Sep 20 |
bemeruca:So it’s established.. When a democratic president comes in he or she can go ahead to ban right wing media houses from covering the White House even when it is ethically and constitutionally wrong. Thank you and have a good day.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 3:56pm On Sep 20 |
basilico:Agreed and established.. the next democratic president can go ahead to impose a ban on right wing media organizations from the White House.. Thank you and have a nice day.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 4:08pm On Sep 20 |
bayelsaowei:Maybe it was established by Obama or Biden or Trump or all of the above? You are the last person that will care. You only care because it is Trump. Then you will jump to your moral superiority contest. In May 2023, the Biden White House denied a New York Post reporter access to a Biden event. The White House said it could not accommodate the credential request; the Post questioned why because there were reportedly empty seats. The administration denied that it was retaliating against the outlet. In 2023, Biden’s White House changed the rules for permanent “hard passes.” The number of journalists holding them fell from 1,417 to 975, a reduction of 442. Importantly, those journalists were not completely banned from the White House; reporters without hard passes could still seek temporary/day passes. The administration threatened reporter Simon Ateba (a black conservative journalist) with loss of his hard pass over repeated interruptions at briefings, and he subsequently lost his hard-pass credential under the new rules. He challenged the policy in federal court on First Amendment grounds. Reporters also criticized Biden's White House for tightly controlling access to the president. Axios described longstanding frustration among the White House press corps over Biden avoiding interviews and limiting opportunities for questioning. Don't come here and act like you care, you don't. It's how you did not care about redistricting till Republicans started using it. 2 Likes
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by raumdeuter: 4:16pm On Sep 20 |
bemeruca:I enjoy it when Trump points out their bias to their faces. I say those are some of the best moments when a CNN MSDNC reporter tries to act smart and Trump or Rubio bodies them The ban or no ban wont make them.change but it will continue to shine the light on them as biased outlets for the public One CNN reporter was on camera admitting thei did everything to paint Trump in bad light and elevate Biden in the 2020 election 1 Like |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 4:24pm On Sep 20 |
raumdeuter:Nothing will make them change. Also, you cannot change the minds of people like bayelsaowei who only see bad when it's Republican, but turn a blind eye when it is on the other side. Then you have gullible people who will think Trump attacking them or fighting back at the press is rude and unpresidential. The media will frame those moments like that, trump being mean etc. They will still play the victim and the gullible will swallow how they framed the encounter. There is not way for him to win. So if he does not have to deal with them it is fine for me. Biden ban New York post because of they aggressively covered the Hunter laptop and Biden's corrupt business dealings. The fact that bayelsaowei was asking if Biden restricted the press shows that he does not really care. 2 Likes |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 4:45pm On Sep 20 |
bemeruca:The bolded shows there was no campus wide organizational White House ban.. It seems you’ve been a bat through out this discussion.. But I leave you to your break dancing and mischief. Enjoy your dictator. When the next democratic government comes, don’t scream when full bans are meted to right wing media organizations.. 1 Like |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 4:57pm On Sep 20 |
bemeruca:This assertion is debatable.. the said NewYork post reporter was rather denied a credential pass to attend a specific event because of room capacity issues as addressed by the Bidens administration. However, the newyork post as an organization wasn’t issued an organizational ban from covering campus wide whitehouse press.. The Post's journalists retained their permanent White House hard passes, entered the grounds daily, used the press briefing room, and continued asking questions at press briefings. 1 Like |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 5:12pm On Sep 20 |
bayelsaowei:They were not completely banned. You have to find the breadcrumbs, eh... Why did he restrict them? And notice how you did not touch the New York Post. I have not said you are making excuses for a totalitarian president. Your default position is Democrats good, Republicans bad, which is why you started making remarks like "did Biden or Obama ban the press" before any research. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 5:14pm On Sep 20 |
What we are dealing with is unprecedented for a president.. for the lovers of totalitarianism in this group (especially Bemeruca) let me establish my argument and also drag you further.. let me outline the difference between the newyork post incident and Trumps recent blanket ban on news houses. 1. In the Biden/NY Post incident, the New York Post was denied a single-event pass – a discretionary credential for a specific room or event. However, the Post’s journalists maintained their permanent White House hard passes and entered the grounds daily. They used the press briefing room and continued asking questions at press briefings. 2. Conversely, for the Trump CNN, MS NOW and Politico Action incidents, the Secret Service deactivated and confiscated hard passes at security gates. As a result journalists from these organizations are physically barred from entering White House grounds or the press complex altogether. 1. Is event discretionary 2. Is a direct infringement on the first amendment. If you guys can’t see the difference and come out to condemn what is wrong then you are free to continuously be the Trump worshippers you are. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 5:22pm On Sep 20 |
bayelsaowei:There were empty seats. Do your research before your blind worship of the democrat party. There were at least 20 empty seats. Nelson had previously complained that he had been repeatedly denied access to registration-required Biden events. When Trump banned Jim Acoster, no one was saying he didn't ban the whole CNN, they were saying the same thing and the same crying for this latest one. Continue the double standards. You should have acknowledged Biden mess up since when you see something "bad" you criticize it than worship the actions of democrats. Hypocrisy, double standards packed in your explanation 1 Like |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 5:24pm On Sep 20 |
bemeruca:The conclusion that that journalist was denied because of Hunter Bidens laptop reporting was only made by right wing outlets. It wasn’t a fact. It wasn’t objective. If you had opened your eyes to read my previous posts you’d have noticed I condemned Obamas actions even though his denying access to Fox News back then was event based and not a blanket ban. I also mentioned that left wing media houses stood in solidarity with Fox News by boycotting those events. Thats balance. Imitate that, rather than worship Trump. 1 Like 1 Share |
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