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Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 5:29pm On Sep 20
bemeruca:
There were empty seats. Do your research before your blind worship of the democrat party.

There were at least 20 empty seats.

Nelson had previously complained that he had been repeatedly denied access to registration-required Biden events.

When Trump banned Jim Acoster, no one was saying he didn't ban the whole CNN, they were saying the same thing and the same crying for this latest one.

Continue the double standards. You should have acknowledged Biden mess up since when you see something "bad" you criticize it than worship the actions of democrats.

Hypocrisy, double standards packed in your explanation
Your assertion that it was because of Hunter Bidens reporting that the reporter was denied access is baseless.. there’s no fact to that..this means the conclusion from both parties were wrong.

You are the hypocrite here..

You find it hard to condemn Trumps direct infringement on the first amendment..

You’re a Trump worshipper.. you should be ashamed of your adult self..
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 5:36pm On Sep 20
bayelsaowei:
What we are dealing with is unprecedented for a president.. for the lovers of totalitarianism in this group (especially Bemeruca) let me establish my argument and also drag you further.. let me outline the difference between the newyork post incident and Trumps recent blanket ban on news houses.


1. In the Biden/NY Post incident, the New York Post was denied a single-event pass – a discretionary credential for a specific room or event. However, the Post’s journalists maintained their permanent White House hard passes and entered the grounds daily. They used the press briefing room and continued asking questions at press briefings.

2. Conversely, for the Trump CNN, MS NOW and Politico Action incidents, the Secret Service deactivated and confiscated hard passes at security gates. As a result journalists from these organizations are physically barred from entering White House grounds or the press complex altogether.

1. Is event discretionary
2. Is a direct infringement on the first amendment.

If you guys can’t see the difference and come out to condemn what is wrong then you are free to continuously be the Trump worshippers you are.
Those distinctions you are comparing don't make the Biden-era restrictions disappear.

You started this conversation essentially arguing, “Did Biden did not ban the press”

Once examples appeared, your argument progressively became: it wasn't the entire organization, it wasn't the hard pass, it was only one event, therefore it doesn't count.

Now you are making excuses, and none of it changes what I told you from the beginning:

I don't share your outrage over these organizations losing White House access.

If they challenge it and a court orders their access restored, fine. I won't be outraged about that either.

You keep demanding that I have the same moral reaction you have and then calling disagreement Trump worship. That's rhetoric, not an answer to what I've actually said.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 5:37pm On Sep 20
bayelsaowei:
Your assertion that it was because of Hunter Bidens reporting that the reporter was denied access is baseless.. there’s no fact to that..this means the conclusion from both parties were wrong.

You are the hypocrite here..

You find it hard to condemn Trumps direct infringement on the first amendment..

You’re a Trump worshipper.. you should be ashamed of your adult self..
Did they tell you why he was denied access? Other than that what could be the reason?

I don't go about posting everything Obama do and force you to share the same moral reaction with me.

I post it and leave it if I ever post.

Na you they always look for Republicans while ignoring the people (democrats) who did the thing first.
Or make excuses for them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 5:37pm On Sep 20
Catherine Herridge take on the declassified memos.



The Intelligence Community and Democrats stole 2020. Period.

basilico:
More on what Trump Eh released regarding Chinese meddling in 2030 that was kept out of the Head of State Presidential Briefing by the Intelligence Community.

🚨BREAKING: DECLASSIFIED CIA EMAILS ADMIT OFFICIALS “DELIBERATELY MASSAGED” PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DAILY BRIEF TO HIDE CHINA’S 2020 ELECTION OPERATION🚨

Fifty years ago, the Church Committee warned America about what happens when our intelligence agencies turn their immense power against the people they serve. This week, we learned it happened again. Newly declassified documents released by the Trump Administration show that intelligence officials deliberately altered what President Trump was told about China’s operation to influence the 2020 election.

Investigative journalist Catherine Herridge found the proof in their own words, and she started finding it within hours of the release.

The email is dated Friday, November 20, 2020. The sender’s name is redacted, but the signature line identifies the author as a Strategic Intelligence Analyst working on China and North Korea Strategic Assessments. The email reads, “We have deliberately massaged our one pending PDB to avoid any direct links to the election.”

The PDB is the President’s Daily Brief, the most sensitive intelligence document in the United States government. It exists for one purpose, which is to give the Commander in Chief the unvarnished truth so he can defend this nation. These officials admitted, in writing, that they doctored it.

The email confirms what a whistleblower inside the intelligence community alleged years ago.

According to Herridge’s reporting, that whistleblower sounded the alarm in the summer of 2020, right as the country headed into the election.

Analysts were seeing indicators of a Chinese influence operation, which means an effort to shape how Americans vote and how they feel about a presidential candidate. That differs from an interference operation, which means penetrating voter rolls and voting systems.

The whistleblower raised the warning through proper channels, and then the whole thing was suppressed.
Herridge describes what the intelligence community calls a multi-domain operation. Beijing pulled every lever of power it had. That included trade, diplomacy, open-source information, and social media, all aimed at one American election.

The scale goes beyond messaging. Herridge also reports allegations that China hacked the data of more than 220 million American voters. She warns that Beijing can combine those records with stolen security clearance files and health data to build digital dossiers on millions of Americans, opening the door to voter registration fraud, identity theft, and espionage recruitment.

A foreign adversary now holds a file on you, your family, and your neighbors, and the officials paid to sound the alarm chose silence instead.


The bias was even written by hand. Herridge reports that some intelligence documents contained edits in officials’ own handwriting showing they wanted out anything that could help President Trump win reelection.

Personal political feelings drove decisions inside the agencies our tax dollars fund to protect us, and the people who wrote those edits knew exactly what they were doing.

When unelected officials hide a foreign adversary’s operation from a duly elected President, they betray their oath, they betray the Constitution, and they betray you.

Our founders gave us Article III for a reason.

They knew the gravest danger to a republic comes from those who aid its enemies from within.

Every official who touched that briefing should face investigation under oath, and prosecutors should follow the evidence wherever it leads.

Herridge made one more point worth remembering.
The administration released these documents so the public can fact-check every claim for themselves.

You do not have to take my word for it, and you should not take the media’s word for it either. Read them yourself.

Then ask why the same people who lectured us about protecting democracy were quietly rewriting what the President of the United States was allowed to know.


The analysts thought the President shouldn't know about Chinese efforts. Joe Biden on being installed deported Russian diplomats and leveled sanctions leaving out the Chinese efforts.

I'm now more interested in COVID development and release ,whether it was part an intelligence community plan to remove Trump from.power. The IC and Democrats are the ones who stole 2020.
Who still calls me a conspiracy theorist?
me
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 5:44pm On Sep 20
bayelsaowei:
Your assertion that it was because of Hunter Bidens reporting that the reporter was denied access is baseless.. there’s no fact to that..this means the conclusion from both parties were wrong.

You are the hypocrite here..

You find it hard to condemn Trumps direct infringement on the first amendment..

You’re a Trump worshipper.. you should be ashamed of your adult self..
This is the your problem.
You worship the media..
Someone once described media.

They claim to be the watchdogs of democracy, but their coverage is just sanctimonious, punctilious grovelling to the highest bidder."
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 5:48pm On Sep 20
bemeruca:
Did they tell you why he was denied access? Other than that what could be the reason?
The personal reason from the reporter is his personal opinion and not an established fact..

But then because of the first amendment he is entitled to his opinion.

And let me make this clear.. in terms of legal standing and precedence:

1. Presidents are not legally mandated to grant every outlet access to every interview. So access denial of some reporters by Presidents to specific events is still yet to be challenged legally. The next question would be is it the right thing to do by a president? It then becomes a Personal decision by individual presidents. Even at that I have condemned the Obamas incident that I sighted.

2. However there is a legal precedence for a president to impose a blanket White House campus wide ban on any established media outlet, as it directly violates Fifth Amendment due process and First Amendment protections.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IbeOkehie: 5:53pm On Sep 20
And it rolls on....LOL, 10 minutes ago I was telling a nurse in our family about this conversation...and she told me that yesterday her hospital announced an 11% across the board pay raise for all nurses starting Jan 2027.

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP......

BUILD THAT WALL, BUILD THE WALL, MAKE IT TALL grin grin grin

MAGA.....MAHA....MAHA...MAGA

We're winning with Trump, I'm even tired of winning but the winning just won't stooooopppp, how much money can a Negro Nurse take, this bag is too big shocked Chineke what is this abeg !!!!

Good Luck to Nigerians!
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 5:57pm On Sep 20
bayelsaowei:
The personal reason from the reporter is his personal opinion and not an established fact..

But then because of the first amendment he is entitled to his opinion.

And let me make this clear.. in terms of legal standing and precedence:

1. Presidents are not legally mandated to grant every outlet access to every interview. So access denial of some reporters by Presidents to specific events is still yet to be challenged legally. The next question would be is it the right thing to do by a president? Personal ethics and optics. Even at that I have condemned Obamas incident I sighted.

2. However there is a legal precedence for a president to impose a blanket ban on any established media outlet, as it directly violates Fifth Amendment due process and First Amendment protections.
Did Biden admin give you any reason?

Did Trump ban CNN's opinion?

How many media house will conduct one interview? If your answers are many why is he singled out?

Why can't you make the argument that Trump is not granting CNN interview as well?

Biden imposes a blanket ban, you are making excuses. Trump imposes a ban or blanket ban; you are complaining.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 6:01pm On Sep 20
bemeruca:
Did Biden admin give you any reason?

Did Trump ban CNN's opinion?

How many media house will conduct one interview? If your answers are many why is he singled out?

Why can't you make the argument that Trump is not granting CNN interview as well?

Biden imposes a blanket ban, you are making excuses. Trump imposes a ban or blanket ban; you are complaining.
Biden didn’t impose a blanket ban. The article you posted proved that. Abi you no read your post?

Trumps current ban is a total ban on the mentioned news outlets from the white house..

Open your eyes and read the news..

Gosh!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca:
bayelsaowei:
Biden didn’t impose a blanket ban. The article you posted proved that. Abi you no read your post?

Trumps current ban is a total ban on the mentioned news outlets from the white house..

Open your eyes and read the news..

Gosh!!
Why did his admin ban Steven Nelson then?
Response to him:
“We are unable to accommodate your credential request.”
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 6:12pm On Sep 20
bemeruca:
Why did his admin ban Steven Nelson then?
Respond to him:
“We are unable to accommodate your credential request.”
Denial of a reporter from a specific event and the banning of an established media outlet in its entirety from the White House are two different things.

It’s exactly what I have been explaining to you from previous posts.

One is discretionary (though from my ethical point of view I have condemned it), while the other is a direct violation of the constitution (1st and 5th amendment)

🤦🏾🤦🏾.

Trump is overreaching.. your duty, if your head is/was correct is to condemn his actions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 6:17pm On Sep 20
🤣🤣😅😅😂😂

How did this woman turn into a TDS sufferer baffles me.

But guess what? The likes of basilico and Bemeruca are more republican than her..

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 6:29pm On Sep 20
bayelsaowei:
Denial of a reporter from a specific event and the banning of an established media outlet in its entirety from the White House are two different things.

It’s exactly what I have been explaining to you from previous posts.

One is discretionary (though from my ethical point of view I have condemned it), while the other is a direct violation of the constitution (1st and 5th amendment)

🤦🏾🤦🏾.

Trump is overreaching.. your duty, if your head is/was correct is to condemn his actions.
I still won't give you the condemnation you're demanding from me simply because you believe I'm morally required to share your reaction.

I don't care CNN lose their White House access. Considering the relationship between Trump and these outlets and the way they cover him, I have very little sympathy for them.

They should go to court and rightly so. I cannot condemn someone for asking people who treat him or her badly at every turn for not coming to their office.

CNN behave themselves and treat IRGC officers with respect.

your insistence of me to condemn Trump's decision or I support totalitarianism is balderdash. Those proposition are different and does not apply.

I can think CNN deserved to lose White House access because of how it has conducted itself toward Trump while simultaneously accepting that the Constitution may limit Trump's ability to impose that consequence. Which is precisely why I said they should go to court.

I haven't said court she ignore their right too, and I still won't care if that happens.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca:
bayelsaowei:
🤣🤣😅😅😂😂

How did this woman turn into a TDS sufferer baffles me.

But guess what? The likes of basilico and Bemeruca are more republican than her..
When you are in the same frequency with her, you know you are on the wrong side of things.

You are seeing a bitter woman, and you think she is rational. This is cult-like behavior
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 7:07pm On Sep 20
bemeruca:
When you are not in the same frequency with her, you know you are on the wrong side of things.

You are seeing a bitter woman, and you think she is rational. This is cult-like behavior
Oh she is bitter, but still a Republican.. a woman who spent her money campaigning for Trump is now bitter, and then you a Nigerian is now more republican than her..

Clap for yourself..
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 7:43pm On Sep 20
bemeruca:
I still won't give you the condemnation you're demanding from me simply because you believe I'm morally required to share your reaction.

I don't care CNN lose their White House access. Considering the relationship between Trump and these outlets and the way they cover him, I have very little sympathy for them.

They should go to court and rightly so. I cannot condemn someone for asking people who treat him or her badly at every turn for not coming to their office.

CNN behave themselves and treat IRGC officers with respect.

your insistence of me to condemn Trump's decision or I support totalitarianism is balderdash. Those proposition are different and does not apply.

I can think CNN deserved to lose White House access because of how it has conducted itself toward Trump while simultaneously accepting that the Constitution may limit Trump's ability to impose that consequence. Which is precisely why I said they should go to court.

I haven't said court she ignore their right too, and I still won't care if that happens.
The courts would overturn the ban and CNN will come back to hold your orange god accountable..

You and Trump can keep throwing tantrums, acting like infants.

The constitution would prevail over the feelings of your tiny god.

Nonsense!!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 11:38pm On Sep 20
bayelsaowei:
The courts would overturn the ban and CNN will come back to hold your orange god accountable..

You and Trump can keep throwing tantrums, acting like infants.

The constitution would prevail over the feelings of your tiny god.

Nonsense!!!
Where you dey when cnn was calling for Fox news to be banned from the White House?
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico:
Don't know what to think of AI Strike Force.
Liberals want to control AI just like they demanded control of the Climate Change hoax.
Liberals have conjured up so many hoaxes during my lifetime that it's a welcome relief for the most powerful person to enumerate them.
AI will kill humanity. Sounds familiar .

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico:
Motaz Azaiza.The famed Gaza photojournalist podcast.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/gazan-photographer-did-not-publish-164908111.html

He had footage of Hamas goatherders torturing Israel hostages and chose not to air it.

Ii have to watch the podcast.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 4:23am On Sep 21
bemeruca:
Where you dey when cnn was calling for Fox news to be banned from the White House?
He's answered it was CNN not Joe Biden.
When pointed out that Biden denied 442 journalists ,a pass he starts blubbering.

Bayelsaowe always i picks a particular action by Trump .He demands you condemn it unequivocally .I've always retorted that I won't join his choir to prove I can disagree with Trump..
( I do Especially with covid vaccine).
He uses that to call me a cultist..
He completely ignores what liberals do.

Bayelsaowei I'm still waiting for Trump worst thing compared to Obama's worst.I want to hear from you the worst thing you consider Obama did.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 8:54am On Sep 21
https://x.com/Edenlife9/status/2092482375724707965

They are there to take over not to assimilate
He gets hints on where to get training for joining ISIS , Al Qaeda ,Hamas right on London streets.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m):
basilico:
He's answered it was CNN not Joe Biden.
When pointed out that Biden denied 442 journalists ,a pass he starts blubbering.

Bayelsaowe always i picks a particular action by Trump .He demands you condemn it unequivocally .I've always retorted that I won't join his choir to prove I can disagree with Trump..
( I do Especially with covid vaccine).
He uses that to call me a cultist..
He completely ignores what liberals do.

Bayelsaowei I'm still waiting for Trump worst thing compared to Obama's worst.I want to hear from you the worst thing you consider Obama did.
Trump is yet to do his worst thing..

He has attacked critical amendments in the American constitution. You and other minions have cheered him.

Always remember that what you cheer today may end up swallowing you tomorrow.

And this 442 story you guys are pandering is the same story I have watched many conservative reps spew online..at least I have been able to help you folks understand the difference between denying a reporter access to an event in the White House versus banning a media organization from accessing the White House.

One is discretionary and the other is directly attacking the 1st and 5th amendment.

And if I know you guys very well, you have a penchant for supporting whatever or whoever tramples on the American constitution.. but the end result is never positive.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m):
bemeruca:
Where you dey when cnn was calling for Fox news to be banned from the White House?
Where was your worshipping soul when CNN stood in solidarity with Fox News?

CNN isn’t the president of the United States.

You, CNN, along with other individuals, are free to express their opinions. However, the President of the United States is expected to operate within the ambits of the Constitution. I understand that since supporting Trump the American Constitution has seemed unfamiliar to you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by basilico: 11:16am On Sep 21
A question is answered. What's the worst thing Trump.has ever done.
What's the worst thing Obama has ever done.
No sideshows let's deal with that
bayelsaowei:
Trump is yet to do his worst thing..

He has attacked critical amendments in the American constitution. You and other minions have cheered him.

Always remember that what you cheer today may end up swallowing you tomorrow.

And this 442 story you guys are pandering is the same story I have watched many conservative reps spew online..at least I have been able to help you folks understand the difference between denying a reporter an event in the White House versus banning a media organization from accessing the White House.

One is discretionary and the other is directly attacking the 1st and 5th amendment.

And if I know you guys very well, you have a penchant for supporting whatever or whoever tramples on the American constitution.. but the end result is never positive.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 12:38pm On Sep 21
basilico:
A question is answered. What's the worst thing Trump.has ever done.
What's the worst thing Obama has ever done.
No sideshows let's deal with that
I don’t think I have the strength for this but I’ve captured one below. However, the typical you (the propaganda in you) would likely turn the narrative on its head.

One of the worst things he’s done was energizing his base with his election fraud antics/pronouncement that led to the January 6th Capitol attack and then pardoning the insurrectionists. Trump is currently attempting to erase that horrific incident from history books.

Trump hasn’t done the worst yet. I foresee sinister moves from him if Democrats win the midterms. He’d likely do something deeply unconstitutional – something the US has never seen from a president. You know he keeps shocking every right-thinking person with his actions.

I await your pile of propaganda..
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by raumdeuter: 1:06pm On Sep 21
IbeOkehie:
And it rolls on....LOL, 10 minutes ago I was telling a nurse in our family about this conversation...and she told me that yesterday her hospital announced an 11% across the board pay raise for all nurses starting Jan 2027.

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP......

BUILD THAT WALL, BUILD THE WALL, MAKE IT TALL grin grin grin

MAGA.....MAHA....MAHA...MAGA

We're winning with Trump, I'm even tired of winning but the winning just won't stooooopppp, how much money can a Negro Nurse take, this bag is too big shocked Chineke what is this abeg !!!!

Good Luck to Nigerians!
Master Ibe

Keep enjoying your life under Trump other Americans are doing the same as well.

They have record low crime in their cities
They have secure cities.
They have controlled immigration
I heard prescription drugs are at all time lows (kindly verify this)
They have tax cuts through the OBBB


While the insufferable leftists who only wail continue to do what they do best
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bayelsaowei(m): 1:20pm On Sep 21
Wahala plenty o.

😃😃🤣🤣😂😂

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:29pm On Sep 21
I think you forget that you were the one who posted this "very specific symbolism" here and into our awareness. And it sounds like you do not know that symbolism is subjective and not objective at all, which is why you can nut see it I guess. That and the fact you are impervious to what it symbolises since it never affected you and you lack empathy for those affected.
bemeruca:
Projection is human nature, hmmm, so why did your mind specifically project the KKK onto the ad instead of any of the countless other things that image could resemble?

You're not merely observing symbolism-you're choosing a very specific symbolism and then acting as though the image itself objectively contains it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by bemeruca: 2:16pm On Sep 21
budaatum:
I think you forget that you were the one who posted this "very specific symbolism" here and into our awareness. And it sounds like you do not know that symbolism is subjective and not objective at all, which is why you can nut see it I guess. That and the fact you are impervious to what it symbolises since it never affected you and you lack empathy for those affected.
I said people are bringing the KKK for an ordinary ad, you proved my point by posting this

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 3:05pm On Sep 21
bayelsaowei:
Wahala plenty o.

😃😃🤣🤣😂😂
Republican Values and all.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by IjeBos(m): 3:11pm On Sep 21
This thread boy.
We have Nigerians who live in Nigeria, arguing for no regulation, corruption, and now a non-independnt press.
It's one thing for people like Raumdeuter who have taken all this stuff for granted, but for people who live the worst of it?
Being MAGA or wanting to be MAGA(don't live in the US), really breaks one's ability to reason.

I just realized I assume MAGA at one point had an ability to reason. Maybe that's my bias in still believing the best in people.
So, is it the classic chicken and egg principle.
Which came first, the lack of reasoning which turned them to MAGA or MAGA which broke their ability to reason?
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by raumdeuter: 3:18pm On Sep 21
IjeBos:
This thread boy.
We have Nigerians who live in Nigeria, arguing for no regulation, corruption, and now a non-independnt press.
It's one thing for people like Raumdeuter who have taken all this stuff for granted, but for people who live the worst of it?
Being MAGA or wanting to be MAGA(don't live in the US), really breaks one's ability to reason.

I just realized I assume MAGA at one point had an ability to reason. Maybe that's my bias in still believing the best in people.
So, is it the classic chicken and egg principle.
Which came first, the lack of reasoning which turned them to MAGA or MAGA which broke their ability to reason?
So you are broken and trying to find what broke you?

If you look inwards and start from home you might find the solution and believe its not random folks on the internet
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