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RUDEBOYY:
Any right thinking man would want same....if Nigeria were devoid of tribalism and other divisions I don't see how or why people would chose Tinubu in place of Peter Obi.

Because tribalism has blinded you. No other reason.

gigabyte13:
Presidency is not given to any one on a platter of Gold, you work for it by collaborating with others not being playing victim...... And being insultive and uncouth.
How do you hand over a country to people who want her destruction.
E no go ever ever work.

You are the one that came to steal, kill and destroy Nigeria. Nigeria must be rescued.

On what’s basis do you say he is full mentally? That he said an Igbo man be given a chance?

Well, I believe that everyone who is mentally sound agrees with him.

quote author=Legitiscool post=140734454]This guy is quite dull mentally, thinks like a toddler

By 2027 we will be hearing new insults and names to give tinubu

Whoever thought kanu will be jailed and everyone will be ok, this obi noise will finally RE-rest in 2027[/quote]

RollinTNDA:
Ibos should wait 12 years
Be patient .. No need to Rush

All igbos need to do is find a northerner that has you people interest and support the person

Let Northerners take back Power 2027
And correct the damages APC has made

I will advise Peter Obi to support Atiku
Atiku vice is from ibo

Peter Obi need to understand that he alone cannot win this current APC

Ibo should be patient, give it 10 years max you go reach Aso rock
For now we have to take back out country from APC

Together let's support Atiku


But the northerner must not be from APC

See how u dey DECEIVE yourself. So,after Late Buhari 8 years, another Fulani should do 4 + 4 abi ? U nid divine SLAP

YOUR SILLY OPINION STAYS WITH YOURSELF and those jobless followers

tunapawizzy:
No one is saying the south east should not do. But you need to understand that for you to win a lottery you need to buy a ticket. This is democracy, the igbos need to position themselves in a vehicle that can make it to destination. Trying to do everything regional will never pay the igbos, you have to collaborate. You have to put yourself in a situation where you can get your desire. Peter leaving Atiku set back the possible realization of igbo presidency, by now we should be talking of Peter Obi for presidency in 2031 at worst. Standing alone will never end well in Nigerian politics, especially when others are collaborating. You willl habe to win an election first, its a game of number. And you see those aboki u think you are smarter than, you need their numbers. You need to collaborate with them.

If this discussion was made in 2022, it would be understood

Obi has since passed a regional player. He has spread not only in the south east but in the south south, south west and north Central at least going by 2023 elections

What spread again would one ask for

Why should he deputize for atiku and not the reverse.

Why would atiku constantly contest when the south has not finished its 8 years

What makes atiku better than obi in term of indicators

Obi has built bridges across the nation. His alliance with kwankwanso is a testament to that

2031 is the turn of the north, atiku should have waited to contest then. He contested in 2023 because he said he was protesting that the presidential slot was not given to the south east as initially planned.

Now what is his reason contesting again in 2027

Despite the relentless voter suppression,obi and atiku scored 6m + votes in the last election. This is for someone who just campaigned for 8 months

Obi has built bridges, he has shown that he has human sympathy and he can be trusted. Above all he listens to complains of people

What guarantee do you have that atiku would govern so well that obi would be given a vote for him to continue. Despite how good osibanjo was, what became of him


If tomorrow obi messes up and doesn't do what he should do, I would vehemently campaign against him


No hard feelings, want you to know that the people in power are not stronger than the power of the people

Peter Obi is not vying for Igbo Presidency.

He is going to be Nigeria's president.

He will be bring to bear his managerial experience and proper management talent to make Nigerians smile again..

The lootocratic druggie and his online bulanistic goons can cry on my mention. No shaking .

Legitiscool:
This guy is quite dull mentally, thinks like a toddler

By 2027 we will be hearing new insults and names to give tinubu

Whoever thought kanu will be jailed and everyone will be ok, this obi noise will finally RE-rest in 2027

You are not smart else you will not be impliedly ascribing invincibility to Tinubu

He was never the creator or originator of Nigeria. Infact, he will not be first incumbent to be voted out of power

He can lose in 2027 and nothing will happen.

He has every right to collect from any politician, as our Constitution permits. In fact, he has simply exercised his rights as a Nigerian citizen and human rights activist.

yemmight:
This one self don go collect from Obi.

givedemwotowoto:
Peter Obi remains the best President for Nigeria 2027 regardless of tribe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRk8JVbPEIs

What do you mean remains the best when he has not for once win even second position. Or do you mean Ana bra state. He will be president after A.tiku. he is still young to be president. 2031, he should first be V. President

maestroferddi:
You are not smart else you will not be impliedly ascribing invincibility to Tinubu

He was never the creator or originator of Nigeria. Infact, he will not be first incumbent to be voted out of power

He can lose in 2027 and nothing will happen.

Tinubu is not from a minority tribe.
Incumbents from majority tribes don't lose elections.

RUDEBOYY:
Any right thinking man would want same....if Nigeria were devoid of tribalism and other divisions I don't see how or why people would chose Tinubu in place of Peter Obi.

pls, what was Pitiobi's legacy projects in Anambra as Governor?

maestroferddi:
You are not smart else you will not be impliedly ascribing invincibility to Tinubu

He was never the creator or originator of Nigeria. Infact, he will not be first incumbent to be voted out of power

He can lose in 2027 and nothing will happen.

I don't fancy tinubu but the 2019 you referencing is because gej himself decided to be intimidated politically

And last time I checked the opposition that time was in one accord, their was a genuine strategy to win the election and the ruling party saw the anarchy of dog and baboon in blood by the region that mattered

It is totally different now with a mob of spineless content creators headed by a feminine Mandela wannabe who runs from party to party without plan

Not to forget a very brutal incubemt that with endless political powers that wasn't available before

tuoyoojo:
If this discussion was made in 2022, it would be understood

Obi has since passed a regional player. He has spread not only in the south east but in the south south, south west and north Central at least going by 2023 elections

What spread again would one ask for

Why should he deputize for atiku and not the reverse.

Why would atiku constantly contest when the south has not finished its 8 years

What makes atiku better than obi in term of indicators

Obi has built bridges across the nation. His alliance with kwankwanso is a testament to that

2031 is the turn of the north, atiku should have waited to contest then. He contested in 2023 because he said he was protesting that the presidential slot was not given to the south east as initially planned.

Now what is his reason contesting again in 2027

Despite the relentless voter suppression,obi and atiku scored 6m + votes in the last election. This is for someone who just campaigned for 8 months

Obi has built bridges, he has shown that he has human sympathy and he can be trusted. Above all he listens to complains of people

What guarantee do you have that atiku would govern so well that obi would be given a vote for him to continue. Despite how good osibanjo was, what became of him


If tomorrow obi messes up and doesn't do what he should do, I would vehemently campaign against him


No hard feelings, want you to know that the people in power are not stronger than the power of the people

The problem is not about Obi being a regional player or not, infact i somewhat agree with you that he is not a regional. The problem is the trend of votes from SE. SE politicians in APC have no bargaining tool to get their party's ticket. You have to explain to your party men why they should field you when you have no advantage where you even come from. For example if Uzor Kalu as APC candidate will lose SE vites to Obi from another party, why should APC give their ticket to Uzor Kalu. They will find it difficult to sell him in SW and the North especially when the other parties have candidates from SW and/or the North.

Now let's go back to Obi not being regional. Obi's political reach is not as widespread as others. And thats where he needs to align with politicians from other regions(the core North especially). These people do what their local political leaders tell them to do. Obi cannot reach the sentiment of the core North the way Tinubu will do through local politicians from the North. And dont get it twisted, kwankwaso na local champion for kano(i am not sure his kano potency is still alive sef), in my opinion, Kwankwaso decided to be Obis vice now because he believes Obi will support him when it becomes the turn of North again in 2031.

You asked why should atiku not deputize Obi. This is what I am going to tell you, 1. Politics is a game of number and Atiku has better political reach nationally 2. You always have to trade off something to arrive at your destination in politics. A lot of times you do what is expedient in order to arrive at your destination, you may arrive later than planned but yes you will arrive there. Tinubu had his eyes on Nigerian presidency since 2007, he supported ribadu(even traded the votes), supported atiku supported buhari, then the time appeared right for him to say I have always supported you guys when it was your turn, now you owe me one. Patience Patience Patience

Most importantly, I am not saying Obi is not good, infact in my opinion he is good. I am also not saying Atiku is good. All I am saying is that politics is the vehicle that will usher in governance. If you are not willing to play the Politics right, no matter how good you are, you will never taste governance- I am sorry but that's d bitter truth. We all saw how SS was able to produce president as minority. Who told you what happened to Yaradua cannot happen to almost 80 years old Atiku as president and the vice ascends the throne.

Is not backing igbo presidency that is the issue,igbos should bring a more credible candidate,not some polished scam,whose only way of try to get to the highest office is only buy sympathy,how can u tell me u brought sanity to a state instead of development, saving money while people are starving, no good roads , running from party to party ,can't build ur home always running when there's problem then start campaign to run Nigeria that's very complex, advocating for 4 years out of respiration, honestly I really want the igbos to rule to balance and make things right, bring me Alex oti,soludo, David Umhai ,this are competent politicians that are capable

gigabyte13:
Presidency is not given to any one on a platter of Gold, you work for it by collaborating with others not being playing victim...... And being insultive and uncouth.
How do you hand over a country to people who want her destruction.
E no go ever ever work.

I wonder. 🤷‍♂️

Legitiscool:
I don't fancy tinubu but the 2019 you referencing is because gej himself decided to be intimidated politically

And last time I checked the opposition that time was in one accord, their was a genuine strategy to win the election and the ruling party saw the anarchy of dog and baboon in blood by the region that mattered

It is totally different now with a mob of spineless content creators headed by a feminine Mandela wannabe who runs from party to party without plan

Not to forget a very brutal incubemt that with endless political powers that wasn't available before

I said you were not smart and I have a predilection for choosing my words carefully.

Go and read up how Macky Sall was able to oust Abdulaye Wade in Senegal less than 15 years ago despite the fact that Wade was the incumbent for 10 years and the opposition were never united until the election was headed for a run off.

Infact Wade was the overwhelming favourite of France who practically decided who gets what in most Francophone countries in Africa and pointedly in that case, Wade's wife was a white Frenchwoman...

tunapawizzy:
The problem is not about Obi being a regional player or not, infact i somewhat agree with you that he is not a regional. The problem is the trend of votes from SE. SE politicians in APC have no bargaining tool to get their party's ticket. You have to explain to your party men why they should field you when you have no advantage where you even come from. For example if Uzor Kalu as APC candidate will lose SE vites to Obi from another party, why should APC give their ticket to Uzor Kalu. They will find it difficult to sell him in SW and the North especially when the other parties have candidates from SW and/or the North.

Now let's go back to Obi not being regional. Obi's political reach is not as widespread as others. And thats where he needs to align with politicians from other regions(the core North especially). These people do what their local political leaders tell them to do. Obi cannot reach the sentiment of the core North the way Tinubu will do through local politicians from the North. And dont get it twisted, kwankwaso na local champion for kano(i am not sure his kano potency is still alive sef), in my opinion, Kwankwaso decided to be Obis vice now because he believes Obi will support him when it becomes the turn of North again in 2031.

You asked why should atiku not deputize Obi. This is what I am going to tell you, 1. Politics is a game of number and Atiku has better political reach nationally 2. You always have to trade off something to arrive at your destination in politics. A lot of times you do what is expedient in order to arrive at your destination, you may arrive later than planned but yes you will arrive there. Tinubu had his eyes on Nigerian presidency since 2007, he supported ribadu(even traded the votes), supported atiku supported buhari, then the time appeared right for him to say I have always supported you guys when it was your turn, now you owe me one. Patience Patience Patience

Most importantly, I am not saying Obi is not good, infact in my opinion he is good. I am also not saying Atiku is good. All I am saying is that politics is the vehicle that will usher in governance. If you are not willing to play the Politics right, no matter how good you are, you will never taste governance- I am sorry but that's d bitter truth. We all saw how SS was able to produce president as minority. Who told you what happened to Yaradua cannot happen to almost 80 years old Atiku as president and the vice ascends the throne.

I read ur submission and I agree that truly the south East have not been able to position themselves perfectly in the political chess board prior to Obi.

Do you Remember the likes of Rochas...who did so much to win the favour of the north. Despite his bootlicking he was still given the boot ( pun intended )

You gave an example of how Tinubu has been strategic in his ambition since 2007 till he finally struck in 2023

Asides from having political reach, political is highly dependent on the prevailing sentiments during that period

Using Goodluck as an example, despite him not having the political reach as a candidate deep in the north ( note the core north had almost always voted based on region of the contestants), he got quite a substantial amount of vote in the north.

Why?

Because of the prevailing sentiments

The prevailing belief was that the niger delta ( Nigeria's cash cow) has been marginalised. During that time the issue of militant agitation was rift and many people were sympathetic to their plight.As the believed that Goodluck was treated badly by the cabal gate keeping aso rock when yaradua was sick. These among other issues helped GEJ in 2011

After GEJ first tenure, there were many corruption cases against officials in his govt and He seems to lack the charisma to tackle it despite his best abilities, people turned against him ( all thanks to the opposition that did a fantastic work)

Enter buhari !!!

He presented himself as a no nonsense anticorruption crusader appealing to the sentiments of Nigerians who wanted change. Despite buhari's failures , this cult followership still persisted

Same scenario is about to play again this time against Tinubu

Tinubu had now been tested and the discontentment against him is high whether we agree or not( areas of insecurity, tribalism, corruption and hunger among many others has been his albatross)

The only difference is that Tinubu is willing to do all its takes either by hook or by hook to stay in power despite any misgivings against his leadership

Obi therefore providing a viable alternative as a prudent, incorruptible and detribalised candidate) who can write the wrong of Tinubu and while not distorting the apple cart of the unwritten rotation of power between the north and the south


I agree with you kwakwaso may not be a strong as he was in kano during 2023 elections but this reach in other part of the North has surged due to the discontentment of Nigerians against the present government.

This would inadvertently would help kwakwaso spread unto areas of the North that obi would not have reached on his own

The last election when he ran with datti ( who was a feather weather politician that lost his polling unit) cannot be compared to kwakwaso

Obi paid his dues in 2019 when he ran with atiku. Now he is forging his own path towards turning Nigeria around

Agreed kwakwaso is probably supporting obi because of his ambition in 2031 backing on the inheriting obi's support while jostling with atiku battle to inherit the cult followership buhari left behind

Legitiscool:
This guy is quite dull mentally, thinks like a toddler

By 2027 we will be hearing new insults and names to give tinubu

Whoever thought kanu will be jailed and everyone will be ok, this obi noise will finally RE-rest in 2027

My boy, you're banking on rigging again nah. Don't try it. Nobody will allow what Thiefnūbu did in 2023 to slide. Nigeria will divide and you're going to feel the heat. Tinubu is OTP. Take it and rest. No rigging part way for him this time around

List of former ibo head of states or presidents

Nnamdi Azikwe was ibo and former president of Nigeria
Presidential term: 1 October 1963 – 16 January 1966




Nigeria has had two former heads of state or presidents of Igbo ethnic origin since its independence in 1960.

Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe
Role:
Ceremonial President
(First Republic)Term: October 1, 1963 – January 16, 1966

Details: Widely known as "Zik of Africa," he served as Nigeria's first indigenous Governor-General from 1960 to 1963 and became the country's first President when it officially adopted a republican constitution in 1963.


Major General Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi

Role: Military Head of StateTerm: January 16, 1966 – July 29, 1966

Details: He assumed power as the first military head of state following the January 1966 military coup, serving until he was killed in a counter-coup after a brief six-month tenure












Let VDM attend history class!












When you forget history, you are repeating it!

Legitiscool:
This guy is quite dull mentally, thinks like a toddler

By 2027 we will be hearing new insults and names to give tinubu

Whoever thought kanu will be jailed and everyone will be ok, this obi noise will finally RE-rest in 2027

Is this all you can add in this discussion?


Oh my goodness!


No wonder the foreigners keep saying Nigerians are dull....


😫😫😫

Truth is they ought to rule but their place has been taken by a SW person who is astute in politicking and would want to finish his term.

This means they have to WAIT and probably after the SS takes their turn and a Northerner, then if a SW comes up again they negotiate for them to rule before them. Probably this wait will imbibe in them a more civil attitude towards all other tribes to gain their supports for a more LIBERALLY MINDED person of their stock. No silent sympathizers to UGMs, sessionism etc. Though it seems the average one of them prefers those ones.

I advocate for ONE term only henceforth, and Nigerians should agree to this so every region gets a chance to power more quickly and not feel victimized or marginalized.

As it is, even the ones they said are from their tribe or pseudo aren't even from there:

Nnamdi Azikiwe: Edo man/ Onitsha

GEJ: Otuoke- Ijaw man with Edo roots.

You are not making sense at all. Because Tinubu and Atiku did not win in SE makes Obi an Igbo project? Which kind of logic is that one now

emkz:
Igbo presidency is a misnomer. Just as there is no Yoruba presidency or Hausa presidency or Kanuri presidency, the argument for Igbo presidency does not make sense.

You are Nigerian president and not president of any ethnic group.

Now, the person they are promoting as the Igbo candidate in 2027 may have set Igbos quest for national politics by several years. Obi won Lagos in 2023 and Atiku won Osun in 2023 (Tinubu's zone). Tinubu won Borno in 2023 (Atiku's zone). No politician got 25% in Obi's zone. So Obi can win other zones, but other candidates cannot perform well in his zone?

The way the southeast voted in 2023 sent a clear message to the other regions that Obi was an Igbo project. That is the easiest way to undersell him.

Any Igbo man who wants to play national politics must first integrate nationally. Tinubu did that with Atiku (2007), Ribadu (2011) and Buhari (2015). How has Obi integrated himself? Is it by building boreholes? Is it by eating Iftar during Ramadan? Is it by paying condolences? Is it by saying things that he has no plans?

Let us remove Nigeria for the moment. If there is a hypothetical Igbo nation, will Igbos allow Obi lead it?

In 2027, Obi would likely go for a second term if he wins. No one believes his only one-term tale. If Atiku wins in 2027, he would disrupt the ambitions of his compatriots in the north who may want to run in 2031. So many politicians may prefer Tinubu as he is sure to complete his tenure in 2031. Nigerians see that the opposition has no alternatives. Atiku who was overpromising suddenly stopped, When Charles Aniagolu asked Kenneth Okonkwo how Atiku's subsidy would be implemented, Kenneth Okonkwo said since subsidy was removed without a plan, subsidy would be brought back without a plan. Kenneth Okonkwo wanted to be Atiku's running mate o.

Legitiscool:
he has right to contest o

But there is something about him that igbos are not telling us, he has been in politics since 2000 why changed now

I have listened to him, a very average trader that likes to talk container metrics, not like he is even a sound economist

He has no charisma nor leadership, can't even handle a party

All he does is lamba nelson Mandela like he doesn't belong to the same capitalist crooks, then rub it like a vulnerable feminine weakling that must be pitied

Is this all igbos have to offer as men or is it because they can easily serve a secession agenda since kanu has switched off but their vision still bottled in

That's the problem. You want charisma, you want a politician, you don't want pedigree, you don't want true governance. Well Obi actually is everything you want and don't want. I have never seen a very stubborn politician like Obi in this country. Go and check how he fought the godfathers and the power that be in Anambra. Go and see how ruthless he was with criminals in Anambra. Go and see his precise actions towards certain goals like the world Bank programmers both in health care and education. Also his environmental protection programmers too. This is not me campaigning for Obi because I believe that everyone had a right to choose his leader but my response is borne out of your unbalanced assessment. All the things I said here are the things I witnessed personally and not propaganda.

SonOfWords:
For once I agree with VDM.

We need to experience an Igbo presidency so we can see what can be done differently.

If we hadn't experienced an Obasanjo presidency, we'd have thought the Yorubas are incapable of giving productive leadership.

But even Obasanjo's grace is not enough to appease us for the rubbish that Iragbiji b*stard is doing at Aso rock. Same way that iguana from daura made nonsense of Yaradua's brief but sterling legacy.

It's time we tried the Igbo leadership, no ifs or buts💀.

The most tribalistic people in Nigeria are the Igbos. They don't like the idea called Nigeria. The conceptual west had visioned this zoning thing long time ago. They should check their minds. Obi is too weak to lead that fight for now. Tinubu is however, too power drunk to let go of the scam throne. We should brace up for the worst. The conceptual west is on our neck! The evidence was the recent visit to France!

We want Tiv presidency also, or someone from Benue axis, it's our turn

Saidfx:
The most tribalistic people in Nigeria are the Igbos. They don't like the idea called Nigeria. The conceptual west had visioned this zoning thing long time ago. They should check their minds. Obi is too weak to lead that fight for now. Tinubu is however, too power drunk to let go of the scam throne. We should brace up for the worst. The conceptual west is on our neck! The evidence was the recent visit to France!

Igbos too dey overdue Tufiaaaaa
We always love to outdo ourselves.
Governor Makinde is a Yoruba man, yet he is contesting against Tinubu, his fellow tribesman. No Yoruba person has ever ìñsùlted Governor Makinde for contesting against Tinubu.

Some Yoruba people are not in APC, but you will hardly see a Yoruba man publicly !ñsùlting or çàjoling Tinubu.

Atiku is a Hausa man, and the Governor of Adamawa State is in APC.
The Governor has never, for once, publicly ìñsùlted Atiku. No Northerner has ever publicly come out to ìñsult Atiku simply because of politics.

But look at Peter Obi. Almost every politician from his tribe seems to be against him.
The only Governors who have never spoken ill against him, to my knowledge, are Governor Hope Uzodimma and Governor Francis Nwifuru, and I actually respect them so much for that.
Soludo has made himself a þàrrot because of Obi. Umahi is embàŕŕàssing himself too, just to get favour from Tinubu, without realizing that he who sold his brother should know that the buyer will not trust him either.
#zubbylegals #LearnWithUs #LegalTips

Zidac:
That's the problem. You want charisma, you want a politician, you don't want pedigree, you don't want true governance. Well Obi actually is everything you want and don't want. I have never seen a very stubborn politician like Obi in this country. Go and check how he fought the godfathers and the power that be in Anambra. Go and see how ruthless he was with criminals in Anambra. Go and see his precise actions towards certain goals like the world Bank programmers both in health care and education. Also his environmental protection programmers too. This is not me campaigning for Obi because I believe that everyone had a right to choose his leader but my response is borne out of your unbalanced assessment. All the things I said here are the things I witnessed personally and not propaganda.

I hope you know yorubas never regarded obasanjo as a man after their interest, neither did they see osinbajo as the same even when better educated

It was always this bias and hype about tinubu no matter how terrible he was till date.

It's more of a "omoluabi" doctrine, but we can now see it for what it is, which is the tribal bias to appoint and promote only yoruba.

This is the same thing happening with obi, when a tribe is insisting it is only this one that is trusted no matter how average he seems their is always an undertone.

Don't forget this is the same tribe that is still actively nursing biafra dream and pretending kanu never exits, they see obi as a weakling that don't associate with the usual politician who puts igbo interest at the back

Every other thing is just noise and propaganda, their are proven men like moghalu that's is supposedly not corrupt.

Even the devil today can be polished and sold, in terms of infrastructure obi can't even rival kwanwanso in projects as ex gov, so why the propaganda that he was the best ex gov in governance

You guys will be bringing side way metrics of waec result standing and others forgetting ex govs didn't just loot they also did projects while at it.

Then you switch to he has no fraud case, tell me how many notoriously corrupt ex govs have also been jailed, it all boils down to we don't have a financial fraud unit in this country

The rest are as "non corrupt" as he is with only alleged cases, the fact you claim you can tidy book records and give to your successor who is also your accomplice don't make you saint

Obi is overrated

OBIDIENTNAIJA:
My boy, you're banking on rigging again nah. Don't try it. Nobody will allow what Thiefnūbu did in 2023 to slide. Nigeria will divide and you're going to feel the heat. Tinubu is OTP. Take it and rest. No rigging part way for him this time around

lol, I am routing for atiku

Butt should tinubu rig, what can you do, he has put a referendum on that by jailing kanu and you didn't do jack