₦airaland Forum

Putinofrussia:
You lie a lot,sir.
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• At the end of the tenure (2007): The poverty rate remained around 54% to 56%, with roughly 69 million Nigerians living in poverty despite substantial debt relief and economic policy shifts under programs like the National Economic Empowerment and Development Strategy (NEEDS).

Atleast you attempted to be intelligent, However its shameful you didnt process the information you even posted

According to you by 2007 end of Obj Atiku tenure poverty rate was at 56% ... meaning it still less than Tinubu current 63%

Mind you ObJ took over ftom a military regime, regardless its only logical we Judge OBJ by his tenure end and not the start, common sense

He even started higher than baba Tinubu.
Go and write it somewhere,Tinubu will drastically reduce the poverty rate to around 20% before 2031 when he leaves office.

ElSudani:
The people who created petrol subsidy and institutionalized it created economic stagnation for Nigeria and made it impossible for the country to develop.
Venezuela is like Nigeria sitting on the largest oil deposit in the world, bigger than Saudi Arabia, Iran or any other oil producer. Fuel is virtually free there through subsidy and their currency is virtually worthless with poverty worse than in Nigeria.
This is what Tinubu was talking about and Atiku being a former vice president and especially Obasanjo were part of the madness.

Putinofrussia:
Face topic,sir.
We were talking about poverty rate.
Obasanjo left poverty rate at 56% not 33% that you lied to look good.
Poverty has always been the problem of Nigeria and Nigerians because of our wicked govts who have refused to build infrastructures that would have driven growth and real development instead they embezzled the funds.

anonimi:
Propagandist liars will die a horrible death.

divine010:
Your arguement lacks substances, i tell you why

Truly OBJ inherited poverty rate at 70% even if you want to put the blame on Him, the next poverty rate survey after his 1st tenure shows decrease to 54.4% ...thats commendable

Under yardua inflation went up again to 62.6% buh b4 the end of 1st tenure it went down to 35.2% .. emphasis on 1st tenure take note

Buharii inherited 39.1% poverty rate and by the end of his 1st tenure he took it to 41% then Tinubu inherited 56.2%

Now if you put critical thinking into use You notice the pattern 1st tenure was the Magical season to bring poverty rate down ...the 2nd tenure didnt bring any positive result ...

Tinubu is the only govt since 1999 that took poverty beyond what he inherited by 1st Tenure end benchmark, and bsse on the analysis no govt made positive result in 2nd tenure, thats why your assertion Tinubu will do magic in 2nd term is baseless or @least a delusion

calm down read well then expose me as a terrible lier again, You can't defend Tinubu and make sense you think i was joking, bring Harvard ,+oxford phd holder he will fail

DeOTR:
The person you quoted was talking poverty rate, not GDP growth.

emperor4love:
Saudi Arabia,Libya ND Malaysia,can we say there currency are worthless

anonimi:
And GDP growth has no correlation with poverty rate?

Is that Tinubu balablu bulaba clueless town hall logic, being used by his followers too

Now if you put critical thinking into use You notice the pattern 1st tenure was the Magical season to bring poverty rate down ...the 2nd tenure didnt bring any positive result
Is it the beginning that should be a little better while you fail at the end?

(And most of those govts didn't build infrastructures o..
They still plunged us into more poverty at the end of their tenure)

Even the Bible says...
Better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.

The beginning might be rough for Nigerians with this Tinubu govt but the end will be prosperous And most institutions of the world have said this.

During Jonathan too,we started borrowing money to pay workers in 2014 before Buhari came in 2015 because they have embezzled everything.

ElSudani:
These countries has far more oil than Nigeria and fewer people. Trying to do exactly what they do simply because you have oil is foolish.
By the way, fuel is more expensive in Saudi Arabia Than Venezuela.

emperor4love:
will laugh u ND pass

Goodluckall:
Here are a few of what Peter Obi did in Anambra State as governor
1.. Peter Obi built ANSU Teaching Hospital Awka.
2. Peter Obi built ANSU Igbariam campus.
3. Peter Obi built Head bridge to Umunya 10 lanes
4. Peter Obi built Agulu Lake Hotel
6. Peter Obi paid off #32b gratuities owed since the military era.
7. Peter Obi built Nkpor fly over.
8. Peter Obi built Obosi Flyover (Julius Berger is using it for their by-pass now)
10. Peter Obi bought over 1000 vehicles from Innoson and paid instantly. He gave the vehicles to secondary schools, traditional rulers, and vigilante groups.
11. Peter Obi dualized Zik Avenue to Agu-Awka with RCC.
12. Peter Obi installed the first public dialysis machine in Anambra state at General Hospital Onitsha.
13. Peter Obi built Nigeria Stock Exchange at Onitsha
14. Peter Obi procured over 50,000 computers for all secondary schools in ANS. The highest at the time.
15. Peter Obi gave any first-class graduate from Anambra state 1m naira
16. Peter Obi paid anybody from Anambra above 80 years of age 10k till he left office.
17. Peter Obi built over 800 km of rural and urban roads, including Aguleri to Adani Enugu road .
18. Peter Obi rehabilitated and gave all secondary schools in Anambra a giant 50kva generator still in use until today.
19. He gave all Mission secondary schools 100m naira as grant.
20. He attracted the SAB Miller Brewery to Onitsha. This Brewery is giving Nigeria Brewery a run for their money to date with Hero and other brands of beer.
21. Peter Obi left over 75b naira in state coffers while handing over to his successor in March 2014.
22. Peter Obi built the first Anambra state Secretariat named after Jerome Udorji in Awka.
23. Peter obi built the judiciary structures of the state from the state appeal court to attracting federal high court, built state high Court Nnewi, judiciary quarters, vehicles for judges, many magistrate courts e.t.c
24. Peter obi built a lot of state institutions such as local government Secretariats and government offices like Suburb, housing management office,water corporations office, etc
25. Peter obi built two mini stadiums in Onitsha and started the Awka stadium
26. Peter obi built and rehabilitated many water schemes in the state
27. Peter obi built many bridges linking communities across ANAMBRA state, like odor bridges,Otupu bridge e.t.c
28. Peter obi built many faculties in ULi campus of Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu University.
29. Peter obi built the college of Agriculture mgbakwu, now polytechnic .
30. State libraries were built by Mr. peter obi
31. Peter obi built about 12 nursing schools through the missionaries and transformed many hospitals through them. Also, he got the state college of nursing rehabilitated and accredited.
32. Peter obi built a lot of general hospitals and expanded some like Ekwulobia General Hospital.
33. Peter obi built about 150 PHC facilities across the state
34. Peter Obi built a lot of structures in the Nwafia psychiatric hospital.
35. Peter obi gave Alex Ekwueme square a facelift.
36. Peter Obi bought over 10 Armoured Personnel Carriers for security agencies in ANS.
37. Peter obi gave grants in millions through the Bank of Agriculture to Anambra farmers
38. Peter Obi was impeached from the office illegally twice, yet he was able to achieve all these and much more. Go to Anambra and verify if all these facts do exist or not.

If you are not tired of suffering under bad and poor leadership in Nigeria, then continue to fight him.
Children of perdition,
Go and verify.

ElSudani:
These countries has far more oil than Nigeria and fewer people. Trying to do exactly what they do simply because you have oil is foolish.
By the way, fuel is more expensive in Saudi Arabia Than Venezuela.

Putinofrussia:
Face topic,sir.
We were talking about poverty rate.
Obasanjo left poverty rate at 56% not 33% that you lied to look good.
Poverty has always been the problem of Nigeria and Nigerians because of our wicked govts who have refused to build infrastructures that would have driven growth and real development instead they embezzled the funds.

Ofunaofu:
Truly Tinubu is delusional

DeOTR:
Was 70 million people in extreme poverty in 1999, 67+ million plus in 2007, and 68+ million as at 2014 or not? If so, why are there over 50% of Nigerians in abject poverty when GDP was supposedly higher? Seems you guys have problems with numbers, because I don't.

ProfDumbledor:
Each April and October, the World Poverty Clock data are updated to take into account new household surveys (an additional 97 surveys were made available this April) and new projections on country economic growth from the International Monetary Funds’s World Economic Outlook. These form the basic building blocks for poverty trajectories computed for 188 countries and territories, developed and developing, across the world.

The data highlight two new storylines about what is happening to global extreme poverty.

First: Extreme poverty in today’s world is largely about Africa

According to our projections, Nigeria has already overtaken India as the country with the largest number of extreme poor in early 2018, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo could soon take over the number 2 spot (Figure 1 below). At the end of May 2018, our trajectories suggest that Nigeria had about 87 million people in extreme poverty, compared with India’s 73 million. What is more, extreme poverty in Nigeria is growing by six people every minute, while poverty in India continues to fall. In fact, by the end of 2018 in Africa as a whole, there will probably be about 3.2 million more people living in extreme poverty than there are today.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/future-development/2018/06/19/the-start-of-a-new-poverty-narrative/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=global

favor914:
Not surprised, as usual the Opposition is in disarray .

Omooba77:
The association, in a statement on Sunday by the NAS Capn, Dr. Joseph Oteri, said these needless deaths, a grim reflection of the desperation gripping many Nigerians, underscore the rising hunger and economic hardship that has engulfed the nation.

The National Association of Seadogs (Pyrates Confraternity) says it is deeply saddened by the tragic loss of over 60 lives in Oyo, Anambra, and Abuja during recent palliative distribution stampedes.

The association, in a statement on Sunday by the NAS Capn, Dr. Joseph Oteri, said these needless deaths, a grim reflection of the desperation gripping many Nigerians, underscore the rising hunger and economic hardship that has engulfed the nation.

“While we commend the government's effort to alleviate the plight of vulnerable citizens through palliatives, it is evident that these measures have been marred by inadequate planning, poor coordination, and lack of accountability,” it said.

According to the group, the chaotic scenes that led to the fatal incidents are an “indictment of the systemic failure to address the root causes of hunger and poverty”.

The group noted that rising hunger in Nigeria is a national emergency that demands urgent action.

“Failure to act decisively will deepen the crisis, with devastating social, economic, and political consequences,” it said.

“We mourn with the families of the deceased and demand that the government ensures accountability for this avoidable tragedy. Hunger should never be a death sentence in a country blessed with abundant resources.”

“It is time to rise to the challenge of ensuring that every Nigerian can live with dignity, free from the scourge of poverty and hunger,” it added.

Therefore, the association called on all levels of government to urgently prioritize sustainable solutions to the hunger crisis.

It said, “Palliatives must reach the intended beneficiaries without endangering lives. Transparent and well-organised systems, with the involvement of community leaders and credible NGOs, should be put in place to avoid chaotic distributions.

“Beyond temporary relief measures, the government must develop long-term strategies to enhance food production, support local farmers, and stabilize food prices.

“Programmes aimed at addressing the needs of the most vulnerable must be scaled up. Access to affordable healthcare, education, and social safety nets is critical to lifting millions out of poverty.

“Policies that create jobs and enhance income-generating opportunities should be fast-tracked to reduce dependency on palliatives.”

The association noted that two of its chapters in Edo State (Area 3) recently had successful palliative programmes, during which over 2,000 underprivileged persons were fed.

It added that one of the key components of the programme was orderliness.

https://saharareporters.com/2024/12/22/deaths-oyo-anambra-abuja-food-sharing-stampedes-are-sign-hunger-economic-hardship

Majesty2:
The APC Presidential candidate, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, has revealed how he will drive the economy of the country, strengthen the Naira and making the country "import less" while "exporting more".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCskn6CbuqA

anonimi:
There is a difference between extreme poverty, multidimensional poverty and poverty.

It’s necessary to understand that first.

Were there more Nigerians in extreme poverty when Obasanjo handed over to Yar’Adua, a better economy and GDP growth than in 1999?

Were there more Nigerian extreme poverty paupers in 2015 when Jonathan handed over to Buhari than in 2023 when Tinubu grabbed power from the expired kachalla soldier he used to make Jonathan a one term president?

Who was president in 2018?
What was the population of India compared to Nigeria 8 years ago?

emkz:
Atiku should look in the mirror. Instead of campaigning, he is sitting down shouting Bola. He is tweeting accusations. He is in court on Tinubu's NYSC certificate. Atiku wants to bring back subsidy without a concrete financial plan. Same Atiku believes von Basten can influence US stand on Atiku.

Who is delusional between Atiku and the person Atiku wishes to be?

mindtricks:
Those who do drugs never really end well.

DeOTR:
I'm not here to pick a side with you guys. The initial person you responded to was talking about poverty rate. Whether you decide to link it to GDP or not, 70 million people are in extreme poverty in 1999, 67 million in 2007, 68 million in 2014, 97 million in 2021 and 98 million in 2026.
If you're impressed by any of the governments (except maybe Obj) since the last return to democracy, taking our total population during each regime into account, then I should not be having this conversation with you.

emkz:
Atiku should look in the mirror.
Instead of campaigning, he is sitting down shouting Bola. He is tweeting accusations. He is in court on Tinubu's NYSC certificate. Atiku wants to bring back subsidy without a concrete financial plan. Same Atiku believes von Basten can influence US stand on Atiku.

Who is delusional between Atiku and the person Atiku wishes to be?

anonimi:
We are saying the same thing from different perspectives.

There is nothing to be IMPRESSED about in any Nigerian government at federal, state and local level.

Nevertheless, your own data shows that PDP presidents did far better on poverty numbers taking into consideration population growth, as well as GDP per capita growth rates than their APC counterparts who nevertheless promised change in 2015.

DeOTR:
I'm not absolving APC. Nigeria has never been doing any better since I know my left from right, and the trend is that, subsequent governments perform worse than the previous ones.

Removing fuel subsidy and floating the currency made matters worse. I'm not sure I'd act differently if I were the president, but definitely might manage the funds judiciously. Again, I've learned never to criticize every actions, unless I'm standing in their shoes and see and know what they know.

anonimi:
Jonathan did far better in governance than Yar'Adua, even though he is the most clueless in politicking and posturing.