ab1x:


Floxinor is always in a small bottle. They sell it for N500.00. I use 1 Bottle for 100KG. Since, am making use of earthen pond, I make use of it till d'point of sales. Prevention they say is better than cure. At the moment, I no longer use Floxinor rather I make use of tectracin. It is just N300.00 per sachet. However, premix and lysine are meant to aid feed digestion. So, i make use of it till d'point of sales although I reduce it to 0.5KG on 200KG but if u can afford more, it does not have any effect on the growth of fish.


Also, some school of thought believe that salt affects the growth of fish but I believe that it is also medicinal and helps to prevent diseases in fish. So, i used 3KG of salt in 100KG and I still get result.

sir, toasted soya as full fat soya?

opes:

i am referring to the latest formula he wrote about but unfortunately was lost when nairaland crashed

ab1x:


Indomie/Flour/Biscuit are the same.
The only different is that flour bind the feeds very well more than indomie and biscuit.
Although, indomie and biscuit have nutritional value than flour
Thus, you can make use of any of the three above.

sir,full fat soya as toasted soya?

saddek04: Unfortunately I joined this forum not too long before the crash and that is why I implore people like u to be more frequent like before because the little I learnt within this short period has really changed a lot of things. Tnx

we all compliment one another on d thread,no prob,God bless

[quote author=opes]sir,full fat soya as toasted soya?[/quote



You can make use of either of the two.

saddek04: The last part of your post before d data loss was that after feeding with 0.8 & 1.2, u use only one bag of 2mm after which you switch to formula 1(200kg) & formula2(200 kg). These u said will take them to like 2nd month of stocking. After this, what formula can one proceed to and for how long before changing to probably formula 4 before disposing. Pls write it in details and step by step. Also, is it feeding to satiation or you just weigh the feed in kg? Tnx

2000 pieces...u r to use 2bags of 0.8mm, 2 bags of 1.2mm and 1 bag of 2mm.....They will finished the 5 bags within 25 days max if they eat very well. You can then switch to local feeds. Each formula posted is 100KG. Writing all the formula here is going to take me a while. It is not easy bro. I will try to be posting each formula per day.


I make sure I feed the fish to saturation point before I leave farm.

ab1x:
2000 pieces...u r to use 2bags of 0.8mm, 2 bags of 1.2mm and 1 bag of 2mm.....They will finished the 5 bags within 25 days max if they eat very well. You can then switch to local feeds. Each formula posted is 100KG. Writing all the formula here is going to take me a while. It is not easy bro. I will try to be posting each formula per day.
I make sure I feed the fish to saturation point before I leave farm.

because 1.2 and 1.8 are sinking feed and therefore difficult to know if they are eating or not, can one use 4 bags of 1.5 which floats and still get same result?. Also I still have ur formula 1$2 where I copied it, maybe uncan start from 3 tomorrow. Tnx

saddek04: If u get 2-2.5 kg in 4 months 10 days, can you pls give a rough estimate of what to expect when you harvest a stock of 2100 fish and what is the average weight. Will all the fish be 1 kg and above or you still have some weighing less than 1 kg?

Average weight should be around 1.8KG.
There is no way you will rear fish without having a fish which are less than 1KG but majority will be around 1.5KG and above.

There is more into fish farming than I thought.

ab1x:
Average weight should be around 1.8KG.
There is no way you will rear fish without having a fish which are less than 1KG but majority will be around 1.5KG and above.

that means one can harvest 2 buses minimum from the sales?

saddek04: because 1.2 and 1.8 are sinking feed and therefore difficult to know if they are eating or not, can one use 4 bags of 1.5 which floats and still get same result?. Also I still have ur formula 1$2 where I copied it, maybe uncan start from 3 tomorrow. Tnx

NO. Crude protein is around 56% in both 0.8mm and 1.2mm and it is 49% in 1.5mm. so, u can see d difference!
Thus, you can't get the same result. You are to make use of feeding stick to feed your fish. It will help them not only to eat very well but also to prevent the feeds from wasting. Feed them little by little and ensure they eat it before giving them another small portion. You need to see people feeding. Stuff like dis involves seeing people practicalize it

saddek04: that means one can harvest 2 buses minimum from the sales?

More than that. 1200 pieces of fish can give you two buses.

fzero: There is more into fish farming than I thought.

Yes my broda. It is very big. The fact is, the more you go deeper into it, the more you will get more experience in it.

ab1x:


2000 pieces...u r to use 2bags of 0.8mm, 2 bags of 1.2mm and 1 bag of 2mm.....They will finished the 5 bags within 25 days max if they eat very well. You can then switch to local feeds. Each formula posted is 100KG. Writing all the formula here is going to take me a while. It is not easy bro. I will try to be posting each formula per day.


I make sure I feed the fish to saturation point before I leave farm.

Lot of money, risky for farmers getting fingerlings from untrusted sources..

But with the feeding stick, can u spot feed or you just feed at all corners because at this stage of fingerlings, it is difficult to gather them at a spot

ab1x:
Yes my broda. It is very big. The fact is, the more you go deeper into it, the more you will get more experience in it.

can stagnant pond system also give u this desired result?

saddek04: can stagnant pond system also give u this desired result?

Yes, if properly manage. Properly manage in the sense that, u change water every two weeks and u feed them upto saturation point.

opes: Lot of money, risky for farmers getting fingerlings from untrusted sources..

As big as Ijebu ode is, I can only vouch for two farms. They use broodstock weighing 8KG and above to hatch. I collect my fish from them. I can wait for a month or more for their fish. Their fingerlings is simply the best!

saddek04: But with the feeding stick, can u spot feed or you just feed at all corners because at this stage of fingerlings, it is difficult to gather them at a spot

It is very easy to make fingerlings gather even in a very big pond. It is d'most simpliest of all if u know the right channel to go about it. Feeding at different corners will only cause disparity among ur fish and it can also lead to waste of feeds. For now, I make use of two methods, the first is the introduction of sound to give them notice that it is time to eat.


To do the above, get a keg and stick. Beat the keg several times before u feed them. Within the next 3 days, u will see that they will converge at a spot u feed them.

The second method is that u will need to get a net which most of us know as mosquito net, get a tailor to sow it for u into rectangle. You will now put big stone inside it and use stick to peg it into ur pond. You then use net that prevent predator to cover it at the top. That's'the latest method adopted of recent. It has succeded in killing a leftover fish in the pond and mouse. I can snap and upload d'picture 2mao.

@abix, you are a sage. Thanx for prompt response to questions.

ab1x:


It is very easy to make fingerlings gather even in a very big pond. It is d'most simpliest of all if u know the right channel to go about it. Feeding at different corners will only cause disparity among ur fish and it can also lead to waste of feeds. For now, I make use of two methods, the first is the introduction of sound to give them notice that it is time to eat.


To do the above, get a keg and stick. Beat the keg several times before u feed them. Within the next 3 days, u will see that they will converge at a spot u feed them.

The second method is that u will need to get a net which most of us know as mosquito net, get a tailor to sow it for u into rectangle. You will now put big stone inside it and use stick to peg it into ur pond. You then use net that prevent predator to cover it at the top. That's'the latest method adopted of recent. It has succeded in killing a leftover fish in the pond and mouse. I can snap and upload d'picture 2mao.

because of unavailability of some of the ingredients in my area, can the second local feeds be adjusted using;
Broiler starter (vital or topfeed) = 50kg
F/M, 72% = 18Kg
Gnc =40kg
Soya =40kg
Biscuit = 30kg
Rice bran = 20Kg
Bone = 2kg
Premix = 1kg
Lysine =0.2
vit.c = 0.15
Salt= 1kg

Presently, 25kg of broiler starter (top feed) is 2,250. Gnc is 118/kg, soya 120/kg (full fat 140/kg), biscuit is 55/kg, rice bran 16/kg.

Thanks

@Ab1X, Robonski15,excellesior & co, pls, i am looking at possibility of combining concrete and earthen pond. How possible do u think it will be? I mean building concrete walls to separate the ponds in a marshy area to avoid occasional falls and wash away by heavy water movement. The floor will not be cemented so as to allow for natural flow of water.

mogentle: @Ab1X, Robonski15,excellesior & co, pls, i am looking at possibility of combining concrete and earthen pond. How possible do u think it will be? I mean building concrete walls to separate the ponds in a marshy area to avoid occasional falls and wash away by heavy water movement. The floor will not be cemented so as to allow for natural flow of water.

possible, i once posted a pic of such before d crash, if possible, i will try to re upload d pic again

excelsiorfarm: possible, i once posted a pic of such before d crash, if possible, i will try to re upload d pic again

Wow!!! that's great. I will love to see it. Thanks.

opes: because of unavailability of some of the ingredients in my area, can the second local feeds be adjusted using;
Broiler starter (vital or topfeed) = 50kg
F/M, 72% = 18Kg
Gnc =40kg
Soya =40kg
Biscuit = 30kg
Rice bran = 20Kg
Bone = 2kg
Premix = 1kg
Lysine =0.2
vit.c = 0.15
Salt= 1kg

Presently, 25kg of broiler starter (top feed) is 2,250. Gnc is 118/kg, soya 120/kg (full fat 140/kg), biscuit is 55/kg, rice bran 16/kg.

Thanks

The above is 198KG in total. The percentage of fish meal which is the most vital ingredient is too small. Broiler starter and rice barn are both carbohydrate. Isn't the percentage too much? I really don't know how old your fish are but you should at least increase the fish meal percentage in your feed to at least 50KG in 200KG.

mogentle: @Ab1X, Robonski15,excellesior & co, pls, i am looking at possibility of combining concrete and earthen pond. How possible do u think it will be? I mean building concrete walls to separate the ponds in a marshy area to avoid occasional falls and wash away by heavy water movement. The floor will not be cemented so as to allow for natural flow of water.

I see that as a waste of money. Water is very powerful and as time goes by, there is every tendency that the blocks may collapse due to the marshy state of the area unless you want to use in a normal area. In a marshy area, the use of proper bagging should be considered and they should do it in such a way that there are a lot of pipes at the outlet.

mogentle: @abix, you are a sage. Thanx for prompt response to questions.

You're welcome, my brother.

ab1x:



The above is 198KG in total. The percentage of fish meal which is the most vital ingredient is too small. Broiler starter and rice barn are both carbohydrate. Isn't the percentage too much? I really don't know how old your fish are but you should at least increase the fish meal percentage in your feed to at least 50KG in 200KG.

Ok sir, i want to start with the formula when they are 3 months, still using floating

mogentle:
Wow!!! that's great. I will love to see it. Thanks.

this had existed for over 6 years,possibly over 10 years,d farm is in oyo state,design by a german & he still come in 3 or 4 times yearly to d farm,this is d pic,hence whatever work, it depends on who do am for u

ab1x:


It is very easy to make fingerlings gather even in a very big pond. It is d'most simpliest of all if u know the right channel to go about it. Feeding at different corners will only cause disparity among ur fish and it can also lead to waste of feeds. For now, I make use of two methods, the first is the introduction of sound to give them notice that it is time to eat.


To do the above, get a keg and stick. Beat the keg several times before u feed them. Within the next 3 days, u will see that they will converge at a spot u feed them.

The second method is that u will need to get a net which most of us know as mosquito net, get a tailor to sow it for u into rectangle. You will now put big stone inside it and use stick to peg it into ur pond. You then use net that prevent predator to cover it at the top. That's'the latest method adopted of recent. It has succeded in killing a leftover fish in the pond and mouse. I can snap and upload d'picture 2mao.

Na wa oo things are happening in fish farming o!!!

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