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Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 12:51pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Soso990240:Nacho at the age of seventeen was invited by Coach Keshi to the Super Eagles CHAN team. The team was built around him as the creative midfielder. His Man City agent came and pulled Nacho out of the team to push his transfer, which destroyed over a months work by Coach Keshi. That would have led Nacho to play at the World Cup at seventeen. Nacho has to work his way back into the team after that, instead of getting an automatic recall. 1 Like |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 12:55pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Kingjames:You would have put Mba to battle with Matuidi? Matuidi would have slaughtered Mba, just as he would have slaughtered Azeez if he had graced that field that day. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 1:00pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Zikdik:Sunday Oliseh should pick up the next U17 national team and let us judge him from there. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by francopido(m): 1:03pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Keshi winning d afcon was a fluke. He is too sentimental in his selections,he does not have tactics and technically he is not sound. Must he continue to have issues with all his players?I think ikpeba was right,keshi has lost it . |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 1:04pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
edimat007:See as you are talking as if Coach Keshi left out our Super stars in the first eleven of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man City, PSG, Dortmund etc. The Coach has to scout and discover hidden gems. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by dabossman(m): 1:09pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
hydrocarbon: So, just because Keshi invited 4 new players in a team list of 25, that is why the sky wants to fall? That is the reason for all this hyper-ventilating? 4 players out of 25. When only 18 or 22 will be dressed for the game and only 14 can get to play? You guys are funny. Those four may not even see action in both games. The coach probably wants to see what they have to offer in training, so he can assess them in person. And that is why you are all loosing your heads? You have about 21 known faces and it is 4 potential debutants that you are all crying about. I remember back in 1993, Oliseh's first game was a Nations Cup qualifier against Ethiopia. He was a revelation in that game and went on to become an integral part of the Eagles for 11 years. If I'm not mistaking, Okocha's first Eagles game was a World Cup qualifier against Ivory Coast. What happens if one of them turns out to be a revelation? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 1:09pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
natureblack:Wicked. My belle wants to burst with laugh. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 1:14pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
maestroferddi:What you guys do not get is that our World Cup group was tough. The Iranians put up a good match against Argentina. The Bosnians were tough against Argentina. With the likes of Dzeko and Vedad Ibisevic. The French team had to injure Onazi and Ambrose to stop us. How can that be a poor performance with a team who lack real Super Stars. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Nobody: 1:22pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
It should be Ikpeba has lost it instead. 1 Like |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by duni04(m): 1:44pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
vislabraye:Keshi's fault or the FA? They were the ones promising to make him the highest paid coach in Africa to persuade him from resigning. When he chaged his mind and said he wasn't resigning again, no contract again. Instead we're hearing rumours of a german coach. Keshi's coaching is rubbish but our FA is also rubbish. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by vislabraye(m): 1:44pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
thegoodjoehunt3: How many changes did Westeroff make in the USA 94 squad? The first 11 in the Nations Cup was the same in the WC. And those were the best we had in the country that time. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Reference(m): 1:44pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Daninya1: Don't worry, we will when we qualify. Just stay in touch. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Nobody: 1:46pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
thegoodjoehunt3:hidden wat, ok i get U hidden grammar. Dulmi |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by dabossman(m): 1:46pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Emeca: Semantics my friend, semantics. Has Keshi's team changed that much in the last two years? Can yo not predict at least 8 of his starting 11? The back four hardly changes barring injuries; Ambrose, Oboabona, Omeruo, Echejiele. His midfield trio always has Mikel and Onazi, the only trouble spot being who completes the 3. That has rotated between Igiebor, Mba, and recently Ramon Azeez. Front 3 same scenario, Musa, Emenike are almost constant, while the third man has rotated between Oduamadi, Ideye and recently Osaze with his World Cup recall and Babatunde. So Keshi too has basically been tweaking. I would say his bench even experiences more of the tweaking largely because we don't have solid replacements for most positions. And that problem dates beyond Keshi. We are yet to replace Okocha, Finidi, Yekini, Oliseh and the likes. The guys we have now can't tie those dudes shoelaces. 1 Like |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 1:50pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
vislabraye:Those players were the best. They were Super bit it did not stop Coach Western of from scouting new talents. That is why a player like Sunday Okiseh could break into the squad at a young are. The job is never done. So criticising the coach for inviting debutants is ignorant from Ikpeba. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 1:54pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
dabossman:After Atlanta 96, the greats of Okocha, Kanu, Oliseh, Ikpeba, Amokachi, Amunike, Celestine Babayaro, Mobi, Tijani could not achieve success. Yet, Coach Keshi should be crucified after working with talents who can not lace these legends shoes. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by abatically(m): 2:20pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
vislabraye: That is a silly comparison right there. 1994 was out golden era and we haven't produced real talents since the class of 1994. In fact the only world class player we had post 94 was KANU nwankwo and since then we never had a world class player. But since u want names, I can tell u that Chidi nwanu never played in the 1994 nations cup but was an integra part of 1994 world cup. 1 Like |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by tobymichael(m): 2:38pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Ex-footballers wey suppose talk no talk na Ikpeba dey talk...mtchewwwww, nonsense. I will never forgive that penalty he missed against cameroon... /*Ikpeba's accent*/ Chhesea and penarity. f*ukn guy 1 Like |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by xtervaganza(m): 2:41pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Keshi has lost it? Help am find am na |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by mpowa(m): 2:48pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
thegoodjoehunt3: If i hear! With the pedigree of Nigeria, that's like the easiest group we can get. what should Ghana or ivory coast say? If the players at our disposal are well utilized and coach's tactics was on point, we ought to have won Iran and Bosnia convincingly and go slog it out with Argentina, everything we did, we did with labour, even the only win we had was controversial, Dzeko's fine goal was disallowed while ours was a clear foul. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by vislabraye(m): 2:55pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
duni04: He should know who he's dealing with. U don't make promises based on mouth. It should be in black and white. They are putting him through this mess because he did't leave at the right time. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by vislabraye(m): 3:08pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
abatically: Some of you here just claim to be wise. Who were our key players then ? Yes Chidi Nwanu was included but he was not an inexperienced player. He was already mature. Can you call that rebuilding? He was a fantastic player no doubt about it but did Westerhoff change the whole setting ? Yekini was still our points man, Amokachi, Okocha, Finidi were amongst our best attackers. That's why the team became so good because the played 2geda for a long time. My point is, where are the players that won the NC ? Now do you use green horns to execute a match you need to win at all cost ? Even if we have to build a team, this is not the right time. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Emeca: 3:26pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
dabossman: He says it himself dat he is building a team because he knows d team he has nw are not performing to expectation. You can only 'tweak' a team after u you get dem to play d way u desire. Dats a far cry from what we see with d underperforming Eagles. If he is tweaking d team right nw we shouldnt be struggling especially when he had d chance to build a team after 3 major competitions. Its not just team selection. His coaching techniques are suspect. The technical mistakes seen in d previous match are blatantly displayed in d next match....same ineffective long balls, same poor corner-kick taking, etc. He choses to blame some players when he fully knows its his job to get d best from dem. He doesnt even have d balls to drop d underwhelming Mikel and try another midfield combination. If dis is d way he wants to build his team den we might as well give him a lifetime contract. Keshi has notin new to offer. We need new ideas and approach. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Emeca: 3:36pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
thegoodjoehunt3: did u watch mba in d confederations cup?? Mba is somewhat technically gifted and would have performed more dan any other midfielder Keshi had on d bench. U are over-rating Matuidi btw. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Emeca: 3:49pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
thegoodjoehunt3: every group in d world-cup is tough. No team is a walk-over. D Iranians proved tough and almost qualified because they basically parked d bus. Dat also qualifies as performance. We went with a defensive approach and dats what got us dat far. When our key defensive midfielder was injured, we broke apart. An ideal team ought to be all-around. |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by abatically(m): 3:55pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
vislabraye: Dude, u all talk as if keshi changed his whole team when he is just tweaking and trying to discover one or 2 players to add to the ones he already have. This is still the same team that went to afcon. Our back 4 has remained unchanged. The midfield trio is still Mikel, onazi and one space for babatunde/azeez/ uchebo/whoever keshi finds. The attack is still musa, emenike and osaze was added for the world cup. So basically only one spot is vacant in the attack . that means keshi has at least 8 regulars in his team, so why do u guys keep saying he is changing his team? I just don't get it. Its not like he changed 5 or 6 players all at once. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Edmomd(m): 3:58pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
We problems in Nigeria that has affected the way we think. Imagine an ex- international who cannot think beyond present. Who knows Finidi, Okocha, Ikpeba before they were called up to the Super Eagles? Imagine Ikpeba expecting Keshi calling Ike Uche, Obafemi of 30+ to Super Eagle? Where will all these players be in the next four years? It took Spain and Germany more than 5 yrs to have the crops of players they have now. Let somebody some where tell Ikpeba that what we need is young and promising footballers that can still be usefull for the next 10 yrs. 2 Likes |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by abatically(m): 4:02pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
vislabraye: U are asking for the players that won the nations cup as if they are not the same players in the eagles camp? Goalkeeper: enyeama Defence: ambrose, omeruo, oboabona, echiejile Midfield: Mikel, onazi, mba Attack: musa, emenike, ideye Are these not the players that won the nations cup? are they not still the players that played the last 2 qualifiers? With the exception of enyeama that excused himself, ideye that was dropped because u all never liked him, and then Sunday mba. So basically the team is missing only mba and ideye and u all are saying keshi is changing his team? Smh. 1 Like |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by niceman24(m): 4:17pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
We nigerins and our media r nt helping our futbal, check d history of our ex-international d way they retaire so quick in our national team compare to other african nation is nt doing us any gud just bc of our criticism, we easily foget d good side so fast. As for ikpeba he is working on script, bt should be ashamed of himself, keshi is a better coach for now so we give him dat oppotunity 1 Like |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by azimibraun: 4:34pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Inshort all of una have lost it 1 Like |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by dabossman(m): 4:50pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
vislabraye: Yeah right. Amuneke only played in the final of the Nations Cup, yet he started every game at the World Cup. Chidi Nwanu wasn't even at the Nations Cup. 1 Like |
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:07pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
Emeca:The Super Eagles can not be all round without the right kind of players. That is why the Coach has to be supported to continue the building process. |
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