₦airaland Forum

londoner:
Nigerians expand into other countries and will continue to. We actually INVEST in other countries and create jobs. we don't just sit in Nigeria and sell to other countries to collect money.

Those traders are obviously those that could not make it in Nigeria, of course they will be upset, they were making a living which was abruptly stopped. They have nothing to cry about though.

To be honest, I think they should all come home anyway. We need all hands on deck, right now. Besides, they will benefit from the coming bills in Nigeria.

At least, instead of pleading with Mahama, GEJ is actually formulating and passing bills and initiatives to support the growth of industry and employment in Nigeria.

ROSSIKE:
You're not even ashamed to be quoting ''75%'' for your electricity access. A country with only 24 million people, endowed with world class resources. Where is all the money going? Is Kuwait still talking of electricity access? Or UAE? These are the countries you should be rubbing shoulders with, in terms of living standards. Yet you're here dwelling on Nigeria. A place with 170 million folks to sort out. Meanwhile the much heralded oil reserves + daily barrel exports of Nigeria are less than Kuwait's (pop. 3.5 million). Of course your living standards should be far and above Nigeria's. But it's not. Why?

JiggamanGh:
Do you read the news or pay attention to what is going on in your country. Do you know how many delegates including your ambassador to Ghana who has been begging Ghana to loosen its policy.

Why do all Nigerians that leave Nigeria to go elsewhere left because they could not make it in Nigeria. Maybe, just maybe they left nigeria for 1. Security 2. Better quality of life 3. A place where they don't have to bankrupt their bank account in order to do business. Do you know where Nigeria rank when it come ease of doing busines. This is the ignorance I was talking about, people don't leave Nigeria becaue they couldn't make it in Nigeria, they left becaue they wanted a better life, they school outside nigeria not because they couldn't get into Nigerian schools.

londoner:
Well, is it not Ghana hat wanted businesses to pay $300,000 to do business there? Would it not have bankrupted them?
Did they get security for their business or were they forced to shut up shop? They certainly did not have any "ease" of doing businesses and anyone else that wants to be a trader will be kept out.

Many Nigerians have the money and connections to leave, but choose to stay in Nigeria.


We don't beg other governents, mate. We may have talks, but we don't beg.....lol

Why do Ghanaians leave Ghana? Why do they leave Ghana to live, work and study elsehwere?

You tell me why Ghanaians leave to live in other countries, if Ghana is such a paradise?

They leave their country as much as Nigerians do.

You may want to read about the efforts made to make doin business in Nigeria better. Even with all the so called hurdles, Nigeria has topped the table in Africa, as a destination for investment FDI.

It can only get better from here.

londoner:
Well, is it not Ghana hat wanted businesses to pay $300,000 to do business there? Would it not have bankrupted them?
Did they get security for their business or were they forced to shut up shop? They certainly did not have any "ease" of doing businesses and anyone else that wants to be a trader will be kept out.

Many Nigerians have the money and connections to leave, but choose to stay in Nigeria.


We don't beg other governents, mate. We may have talks, but we don't beg.....lol

Why do Ghanaians leave Ghana? Why do they leave Ghana to live, work and study elsehwere?

You tell me why Ghanaians leave to live in other countries, if Ghana is such a paradise?

They leave their country as much as Nigerians do.

You may want to read about the efforts made to make doin business in Nigeria better. Even with all the so called hurdles, Nigeria has topped the table in Africa, as a destination for investment FDI.

It can only get better from here.

One wonders why is your president wants Nigeria's borders opened for trade.

CrudeGH:
you wonder why Ghana's president wants nigeria to open its borders to trade? its because Ghana has opened its own borders to trade from all west african countries, including nigeria. there is no prohibition policy against west african goods and services in place. this is what this all about. reciprocity. the same nigerians will shout murder if Ghana decides to close its borders to nigerian goods and services in retaliation.the whole ecowas crap must be scrapped.

JiggamanGh:
When we leave you will not hear a Ghanaian say I am leaving Ghana for better life in Nigeria or to school in Nigeria. That's the point, with the mouth some of you got and your condescending attitude towards other africans, you would think Nigeria was heaven or they fed other africans.

Like I said Nigeria a place where rule of law cease to exist, you can't even uphold your own constitution. The first country where citizens get deported.

ROSSIKE:
This man is using style to beg, sha. They always seem to be appealing to Nigeria for one thing or the other these days. I wonder where they'd be without us.

JiggamanGh:
Bunch of hypocrites, I tell you. All they know how to do is cry and bitch. The nigeria anthem see they hate us, Ghana hate us, South Africa hate us. They hate us because we have swag, they hate us because we taking all their women without know how silly that sounds. How can the people that hate you also end up going out with you.

londoner:
Yet, you want unrestricted access.

Well some Ghanaians do live in Nigeria (not the same number, granted), and there was a time when Ghanaians did say "I'm leaving Ghana for a better life in Nigeria."

Anyhoo, no use doing the back and forth with you.........Nigeria's market will be serviced as much as possible by our own.

That way, all the things you complain of about Nigeria will cease to exist.

We are doing what we should have done many years ago........looking inwards and reducing expenditure on imports, as well as encouraging yet more investment on our shores.

Enjoy the rest of your evening JiggamanGh..........

CrudeGH:
hahahahahahaha I don taya for dis people. they obviously seem to think the world revolves around them and that the sun shines from their aNuS.

CrudeGH:
talking like atypical foooool. what is what Mahama said that suggested that he was begging? or do you have comprehension problems? President Mahama clearly stated his point. what exactly did he say to suggest begging? and what exactly will he be begging for? trade among west african countries has been traditionally extremely low and each country has coped without it all these years. so what difference does it make whether nigeria opens its borders or not? and who wants to trade in a jungle where 90% of the people survive on less than $2 a day? arrant crap!

CrudeGH:
you wonder why Ghana's president wants nigeria to open its borders to trade? its because Ghana has opened its own borders to trade from all west african countries, including nigeria. there is no prohibition policy against west african goods and services in place. this is what this all about. reciprocity. the same nigerians will shout murder if Ghana decides to close its borders to nigerian goods and services in retaliation.the whole ecowas crap must be scrapped.

londoner:
Nigeria has a different agenda for its people and it's future. We want to explore our abilty to service our own market as much as possible. This means having an advantage to Nigerian made goods and having local content policies, at least for a time. Our population is already the size of a few African nations. It makes sense to utilise our population to buy our own goods, as well as produce those goods/services.

At this point in time, we have to prioritise our own people.

ROSSIKE:
You're not even ashamed to be quoting ''75%'' for your electricity access. A country with only 24 million people, endowed with world class resources. Where is all the money going? Is Kuwait still talking of electricity access? Or UAE? These are the countries you should be rubbing shoulders with, in terms of living standards. You share the same demographics - huge resources, small population. Yet you're here dwelling on Nigeria. A place with 170 million folks to sort out. Meanwhile the much heralded oil reserves + daily barrel exports of Nigeria are less than Kuwait's (pop. 3.5 million). Man for man, Ghana is more endowed with natural resources than Nigeria. That GOLD alone you produce, should have taken care of every material need by now, throughout the country. Your living standards should be far and above Nigeria's. But they're not. Why?

londoner:
Nigeria has a different agenda for its people and it's future. We want to explore our abilty to service our own market as much as possible. This means having an advantage to Nigerian made goods and having local content policies, at least for a time. Our population is already the size of a few African nations. It makes sense to utilise our population to buy our own goods, as well as produce those goods/services.

At this point in time, we have to prioritise our own people.

Obi1kenobi:
The Nigeria vs Ghana e-battles on here are very amusing. You have shameless, big-for-nothing, underachieving Nigeria always trying to lord it over small Ghana, and then small, insecure Ghana always vilifying Nigeria. The reality is since independence, both countries are failures - but Nigeria are certainly the bigger failures. So, it's basically 2 countries with nothing to brag about always spoiling for a keyboard battle.

JiggamanGh:
Yes, we want access to your market because the point of every business person is to gain customers and you don't want to loose even a single customer.

You say this but step a foot in Nigeria and you will still see mostly foreign made good on that country including things Nigeria can produce themselves. You will still find made in China tooth pick. So spare me all the crap.

Goodnight to you

londoner:
Nigeria has a different agenda for its people and it's future. We want to explore our abilty to service our own market as much as possible. This means having an advantage to Nigerian made goods and having local content policies, at least for a time. Our population is already the size of a few African nations. It makes sense to utilise our population to buy our own goods, as well as produce those goods/services.

At this point in time, we have to prioritise our own people.

atlwireles:
The issues here are not products manufactured in Ghana or any other west African state. The ECOWAS agreements already allows for the free movement of these products. A trip to Seme border will surprise anyone in doubt. The trailers coming from Ghana, togo Benin and the ones from Nigeria heading West abound in their numbers. Nigeria's fear and rightfully so, is opening her market to products, dropped shipped from the EU and China. Because these products are have zero Ghanaian/Togo/ or benin input(material and labour). Just repackaged and labelled, to mislead customs. Nigeria can not open her market to this kind of dumping.

JiggamanGh:
Great timing, tnx for the poem. That's what I am trying to tell Londoner, Nigeria only like to make its seem bigger and important with nonsense policy. A Nigerian will buy foreign air even if Nigerian air is of better quality.

JiggamanGh:
Of course everything coming from Ghana are repackage goods but the ones coming from Nigeria are nigerian made good. We so incompetent we can never produce anything worth consuming. Smh, this is the arrogance that is associated with nigerians.

atlwireles:
The issues here are not products manufactured in Ghana or any other west African state. The ECOWAS agreements already allows for the free movement of these products. A trip to Seme border will surprise anyone in doubt. The trailers coming from Ghana, togo Benin and the ones from Nigeria heading West abound in their numbers. Nigeria's fear and rightfully so, is opening her market to products, dropped shipped from the EU and China. Because these products are have zero Ghanaian/Togo/ or benin input(material and labour). Just repackaged and labelled, to mislead customs. Nigeria can not open her market to this kind of dumping.

JiggamanGh:
Of course everything coming from Ghana are repackage goods but the ones coming from Nigeria are nigerian made good. We so incompetent we can never produce anything worth consuming. Smh, this is the arrogance that is associated with nigerians.

GERALD710:
Yes. Kenya.
The nation with a higher Literacy rate, Better
Healthcare system, Internet Speeds, ranks higher
on the Social Index, lower crime rate murder per
1000 people, Higher Economic Freedom Index,
and most certainly, far more stable power supply
( My God how do people live in Nigeria with the constant hum of Generators!!!! ;DEven our worst worst power Rationing in Kenya(2000-2001) was
not as bad as the 'normal 'power supply in Ilorin
and parts of Lagos.) than Nigeria. Then we had
16 hours of power and an 8 hour blackout daily
And we have never had such a rationing again.
There are estates in Lagos that get no power for
DAYS!!! I can't imagine the situation in the North!!!!

GERALD710:
Actually, Infrastructure matters .A lot.By far. I
have heard a lot about how MTN and Airtel
charge Nigerian customers excessively but
deliver the kind of Services that Kenya was
getting in.... 2001. One of the reason. MTN and
Airtel have to maintain their base stations using
Emergency generators .Something they do not
do in Kenya unless the base station is in the
middle of a National Park.
If Investors were looking for only Population,
every international investor would be based in
Nigeria. But No. The Africa Headquarters for
virtually every International investor is either in
Kenya or South Africa.Please ask yourself why
the following companies chose Kenya over
Nigeria.
IBM
Google
Cisco Systems
Avic Investments
Blackberry Africa(Which is strange since
BlackBerry has more customers in Nigeria and
South Africa)
BASF
Bharti Airtel( Despite it having more customers in
Nigeria)
Cocacola( Previously in S.A and the Nairobi
Office was in charge of East Central and
Southern Africa.But now it is in charge of the
entire continent)
Barclays(East and West Africa.The CEO who
overlooked all units in East and West Africa was
usually Kenyan .Including our Industrialisation
Minister)
Motorola(Sub Saharan Africa)
International Monetary Fund( Explains why
Legrade is ever visiting)
Mitsubishi
Nokia Siemens( It was moved from S.A. Yaaay!
This was an ecstatic moment when Nokia
approved this move)
Qualcomm
Rockerfeller Foundation( This.I found out today)
Scania AB
Standard Chartered( Again,despite having more
customers in Nigeria, its African Banking system
is most technologically advanced in Kenya which
is why the Africa Headquarters are in Chiromo,
Nairobi. A fabulous building by the way.)
The World Bank
Visa(Sub Saharan Africa)
Starlink
And this Year we are hoping Toyota will move its
Africa HQ to Kenya from South Africa .. I hope
Intel does so too.
RTI International
CCTV
Xinhua News Agency
A large number of the companies with their
Africa Headquarters in Kenya are Banking and
ICT companies despite Nigeria having a large
banking and internet population. This is where
INFRASTRUCTURE comes in. As of 2014, Kenya
has the highest bandwidth per person in Africa
thanks to the enormous investment we have
made in fibre optics, hosting and last mile
connectivity http://investeddevelopment.com/
blog/tag/electricity/
.Thats why Google came here in 2007 and the
likes of IBM in 2012. INFRASTRUCTURE
MATTERS. Not a population which 65% has no
power and the other 35% gets electricity like it is
a post apocalyptic food ration no matter how big
that population is. Not nation that refuses to
invest in in its infrastructure. Not a nation with a
home grown insurgency.(Boko Haram. Our Al
Shabaab menace is not Kenyan but from our
Willd Wild East Neighbour Somalia). And you
guys do not know how poor your reputation is.
Instead of your IT guys doing startups like
us,They are busy making Nigeria the largest
source of online scams with 20% originating from
Nigeria .Well ahead of India(17%) and the US
(13%). 2 weeks agothe FBI came to Nairobi.To
capture Nigerians perpetuating Scams from
Nairobi .SMH.

atlwireles:
Nobody is saying Products from Ghana are repackaged. The main reason for this back and fort, is the refusal of Nigeria to consent to the European union/ecowas trade deal. Before this, nobody was crying about goods from any west african Nation been excluded from entering Nigeria.

GHKWAME1:
I know right, thing is I hope policy makers in Ghana will heed to the calls voiced by Wereko Brobbey(member of opposition npp) and the chairman of parliaments committee on energy(member of ruling party and immediate past deputy energy minister) on avoiding Nigeria in our economic calculations. Thing is kufuor opened the flood gate and Mahatma is clueless to close it.

GHKWAME1:
Not true, under kufuor you banned nenety one products from entering Nigeria, this was way before the current EU debacle.

CrudeGH:
this old excuse is no longer tenable. the truth of the matter is that the cost of production is far higher in nigeria than in the rest of west africa. how can you be competitive when you produce with generators? that is the real problem nigeria does not want to allow west african goods into its territory. the manufacturers association of nigeria has made that point several times