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Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by yazach: 3:54pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
I came across this conversation between a Muslim and a Christian Muslim: You Christians you always claim to perform miracles and ask people to come and receive it Christian: Yes, because their is power in the Name of Jesus Muslim: That mean you can do anything with that name Christian: Yes ooo Muslim: Can you speak in tongue? Christian: Yes of course Muslim: Can you cast out devil in the name of Jesus? Christian: Yes!!! When their is light, darkness will disappear Muslim: Can you lay hands on the sick and he will become healed? Christian: Yes!!! Their is power mighty in the blood of Jesus Muslim: OK, can you drink Concentrated H2SO4 in the name of Jesus Christian: Yes, Jesus said in the book of In Mark 16 vs 17 to 18 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.” Muslim: To people around I beg give us battery water People: Here is Conc HCL Muslim: This is concentrated acid take it and drink it Christian: Thou shall not tempt your God Muslim and People around: Buhahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahahahahah Formula Doge it Muslim: Can you ta up serpent? Christian(Saw a great Anaconda among people): Thou shall not tempt your God Muslims and People: When are you people going to stop deceiving people with your lies and Hippocrates? 1 Like
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Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Nobody: 4:02pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Bullcrap... So wahz interesting here nw 1 Like |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Lordspicy(m): 4:05pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Mtcheeeeew |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by priscaoge(f): 4:09pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
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Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by yazach: 4:24pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
priscaoge: Oga all those televised miracles and prophesy by your pastors should also be stopped. Let them perform the real one(drinking poison hugging transformer) else they are not going to be part of Jesus 4 Likes |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by padeolu: 4:27pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Nonsense. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by priscaoge(f): 4:29pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
yazach: Who is Oga? |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Rilwayne001: 10:22pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
LOL! |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 11:29pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
op.your Allah is weak. Surah 8:65: “O Prophet! Rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.” (Yusuf Ali) allah prophecise in surah8:65 that twenty muslims will defected hundred unbelievers and a hundred muslims will defected a two thousand unbelievers.but the people complain to much and dosent trust allah prophecy,immediatly surah8:66 was reavel. Surah 8:66: “For the present, Allah hath lightened your task, for He knoweth that there is a weak spot in you: But even so, if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah: for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.” (Ibid) allah know there is a weak spot in them yet he put a burden to them but when they complain,he reduce it from 20 to defect 100 and 100 to defect 1000 and he reduce it to 100 to defect 200 and 1000 to defect 2000. Surah 8:66 was revealed a short time later after Muslims complained bitterly at the impossible odds they would have to encounter when they engage their enemies in battles. Consider carefully the wordings of these two Surahs. Surah 8:65 states, “If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.” (A ratio of 1 to 10). And Surah 8:66 states, “…if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand.” (A ratio of 1 to 2). Ishaq: 326: “Abdullah told me that when this verse came down it was a shock to the Muslims who took it hard. They were afraid, as the odds were too great. So Allah relieved them and cancelled the verse with another: ‘Now has Allah relieved you and He knows that there is a weakness among you, so if there are 100 (rather than 20) they shall vanquish 200.’” Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 176: Narrated Ibn Abbas: When the Verse: — ‘If there are twenty steadfast amongst you (Muslims), they will overcome two- hundred (non-Muslims).’ was revealed, it became hard on the Muslims when it became compulsory that one Muslim ought not to flee (in war) before ten (non-Muslims). So (Allah) lightened the order by revealing: ‘(But) now Allah has lightened your (task) for He knows that there is weakness in you. So if there are of you one-hundred steadfast, they will overcome two-hundred (non-Muslims).’ (Surah 8:66) So when Allah reduced the number of enemies which Muslims should withstand, their patience and perseverance against the enemy decreased as much as their task was lightened for them. QUSTION. (1) Why did Almighty Allah’s prophecy in Surah 8:65 fail in its fulfillment? Does not this prove that Allah is incapable of seeing through to the fulfillment of his prophecies? Does this not also prove that Allah cannot be the Almighty God as he claims to be? (2) Why did Allah abrogate his own prophecy and replace it with a contradictory prophecy? Does not the fact that Allah got his prophecy wrong the first time shows that he is learning by trial and error just like any imperfect human? Does not this also prove that there is a failed prophecy in the Qur’an? Can a divine book contain a failed prophecy in it? (3) Since Allah abrogated his prophecy because of his warriors’ reluctance to fight against such odds, does not this prove that the fulfillment of Allah’s prophecy is dependent on the decisions of imperfect humans? How can the failings of humans to follow directions result in the divine failure of the fulfillment of Allah’s prophecy? Can the Word of God fail? (4) Why did not Allah know that his warriors would be unable to cope with the demand to defeat their enemies ten times their number? Is it not so because Allah did not know the weakness of the Muslims? Why did not Allah know their weakness just one verse away? Why did Allah choose to lower the prophesized ratio from 1:10 to 1:2 instead of empowering his warriors with the needed strength and courage to measure up to task as predicted in his divine prophecy? (5) If Allah does not know the present, can we trust him to know the future? 3 Likes |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 11:44pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
There are also other instances in the Qur’an that shows that Allah does not know the outcome of the future with certainty. For example the Qur’an declares in Surah 3:144: Muhammad is no more than a Messenger, and indeed many Messengers have passed away before him. If HE DIES OR IS KILLED, will you then turn back on your heels as disbelievers? And he who turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah, and Allah will give reward to those who are grateful. (Hilali-Khan) Muhammad was not only Allah’s greatest prophet but he was also his final and favorite prophet. Yet, Allah was uncertain about the manner of Muhammad’s death. The phrase, “If he dies or is killed” in Arabic is “Fa-in mata awo kutila.” This verse demonstrates that Allah did not know whether Muhammad will die a natural death (Mata) or be killed by someone (Kutila). Thus, Allah was unable to affirm the exact manner of Muhammad’s death. That is why there is not a single prophecy in the Qur’an that details the manner of Muhammad’s death. MUHAMA RDAD THE BIBLE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE TEACHING,ALLAH PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF JESUS IN THE QURAN BECAUSE JESUS EXISTED BEFORE THE QURAN.BUT ALLAH DID NOT PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF MUHAMMAD,WHOM MUSLIMS CLAIM HE IS THE GRDATEST PROPHET. 1 Like |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Nobody: 2:12am On Oct 18, 2014 |
malvisguy212:which sura pls |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by tartar9(m): 3:17am On Oct 18, 2014 |
malvisguy212:The Prophet Muhammad(SAW) prophecised his death many times in the hadith. 1 Like |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 6:30am On Oct 18, 2014 |
tartar9:the hadith were not the word of Allah or muhammd,is the word of men who are closer to muhammad,they are not even a prophet or apostle,how sure can we trust the hadith? Even muslims dont trust the hadith. 3 Likes |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 6:45am On Oct 18, 2014 |
hisblud:Surah 19:15: And peace on him on the day he was born, and on the day he dies, and on the day he is raised to life. (Shakir) Allah even went all the way by prophecise he will be raise alive. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Nobody: 1:21pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Thanks |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by tartar9(m): 2:30pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
malvisguy212:the Quran was not the only source of revelation to the prophet(SAW),thou it is the highest form of revelation being the verbatim word of Alllah(SA).the Quran isn't about Muhammad(SA),it mentions his name only five times.there are even some verses that point to the end of his mission in the Quran and this is the last revelation of the Holy Quran"This day have those who disbelieve despaired of your religion, so fear them not, and fear Me. This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion"so even the last revealed verse in the Holy Quran is about Allah's completion of his mission.as for the hadiths,they are the narrations of his closest and trusted companions of what he said and did,just like the gospels thou they are mostly short statements.and there are over a million of these hadiths which is impossible for it to happen in the lifetime of one man so obviously,many are interpolations,additions and even outright fabrication.but the scholars have gone through painstakingly efforts to classify each hadiths based on their veracity,some are classified as sound,weak,false etc.Muslims will follow and use the ones in which there is no doubt about their veracity and which doesnt contradicts the Quran. 1 Like |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Nobody: 4:05pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
tartar9:this caught my attention. Pls not to digress the topic, pls apart from koran and hadith, which 'other' is the revelation of allah? |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 5:03pm On Oct 18, 2014 |
tartar9:if the quran is not only the source of revelation to muhammd,can you tell me the other source.? You realy need to ask your self this,religeon that allah chose from the beginning,what is there to be perfected? This is serious. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by yazach: 9:24am On Oct 20, 2014 |
priscaoge: You of course, look, it is not the one at the top o but at the bottom |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by yazach: 9:31am On Oct 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212: I don't expect anybody to answer you but maybe they are not aware of your formula(i.e dodging real the topic when you are exposed). You need to address the topic first if you are going to be answered, Stop your dodging attitude. The bible said you are not of Jesus when you are yet to drink poison, carry anaconda without negative effect on you so why are you running away from giving response to the verse? 1 Like |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by yazach: 9:41am On Oct 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212:Not after you address the OP by the virtue of answering the question. Thank God poison was included in the points. Can you malvisguy212 drink poison in the name of Jesus without harming you as requested by the bible? Why is it any of your pastors yet to perform the miracle of drinking poison and carrying anaconda? We only hear speaking in tongue, healing the sick miracle if truely you can do perform the simple one in the name of Jesus, why not the rest? |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Rilwayne001: 10:34am On Oct 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212: ignoramus |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Ajibam: 10:56am On Oct 20, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:To be ignorant is better than to be a jihadist, a terrorist, a threat and a killer '!! 3 Likes |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Rilwayne001: 11:08am On Oct 20, 2014 |
Ajibam: What is the difference between all that you listed? Ignorance leads to them all... 4 Likes |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 11:28am On Oct 20, 2014 |
yazach:nothing to be adress in the op,it only a conversation. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 11:31am On Oct 20, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:ok.correct me.is the hadith word of Allah? Or muhammad speak directly in the hadith? |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Rilwayne001: 11:52am On Oct 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Ignoramus |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by yazach: 12:05pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212:Many to be addressed my Mr!. Ok answer the following Questions: 1- Can you heal the sick in the name of Jesus 2- Can you speak in tongue? 3- can you cast out devil in the name of Jesus? Answer honestly if you are not going to be denied by Jesus according to the verse |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 12:06pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:you are pointless, thank you for your time. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Rilwayne001: 12:16pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212: No thanks I can"t just waste my time with a loon |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 12:25pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
yazach:1.by his grace i can heal the sick through the name jesus. 2.when demon possesed you,how do you speak?when muhammad recive his ravelation,he snore like a camel,his voice is the same as camel?.when i pray for the holy spirit to possesed me and when he does,i will speak in tongue. 3.when i relocate to my new house,before i enter the room, i say "all the demon,whitches and wizard,get out,moses is here" at the middle of the night i saw someone standing,i just smile and say,"if you stand tire,you will leave,i want to sleep" today by his grace,am healthy,infact the last time i sick it was 1995/06. After i leave the hospital,i told the doctor, i moses will never step foot here again,uptil today,by his grace am alive,and i havent visited the hospital. Am a christian,my testemoney is true,let here your's. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 12:29pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:are you blind to read my coment? Dint i say correct me if am wrong? Just face it,you are afraid to answer because you will twist the quran. |
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