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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by sabdaz: 5:00pm On Oct 19, 2014
dabossman:


It really is a shame when we Nigerians do that. And we wonder why today's generation of Nigerian players don't give their best to the national team? A man gives more than 15 years of his best to this country and we come online o spew some of the uncomplimentary stuff I've read here? It's a damn shame.
Seriously you are absolutely right. It's not their fault, if nairaland as an organization has good moderators, this kind of topic shouldn't have made it through.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by sukkot: 5:01pm On Oct 19, 2014
MrPresident1:


Bros, The Brazilians are the gods of football, if the gods acknowledge you, it means you are gooooood, so good you are name twice!

Jay jay!!!
thats why they got spanked 7-1 and 3-0 this world cup ? na which kain god be dat wey dey recieve that kain spanking ? shocked cheesy
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by sukkot: 5:03pm On Oct 19, 2014
HugeCock:
He could only dribble and take set pieces and dat was it. His passing was just there. His shooting was awful. I cant forget d match against denmark. He was taking "anywhere belle face" shot. Mboma, diouf even mccarthy were better
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by mancheeutd(m): 5:07pm On Oct 19, 2014
op is confusing success with Greatness you can be successful in your profession but not necessarily great another way of looking at greatness is when you the best in what makes you happy when you put your talent into use irrespective of where ever u find yourself....be that as it may jayjay is a great player and one of the best in his days
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by EMMABC1(m): 5:09pm On Oct 19, 2014
A midfielder who score 87 goals in over 450 app is overhypped?
A player who won Uefa Itertoto cup and six other minor league trophies is overhyped?
A player who won BBC player of d year 2 consecutive times is overhyped?
A Nigerian player who won English PL goal of the month and player of the month is overhyped?
A player who won Nigeria NFF player of the year 6 times is overhyped?
A player listed on Pele's FIFA 125 greatest players of all time is overhyped?
A player described by Ronaldinho as his master in trick n dribbling football is overhyped?
One of d few Nigerians, if not d only one who captained an English PL club for over 3yrs is overhyped?
A winner of Nations cup is overhyped?
Op, you are an unrepentant phool. You think football is playd by mouth and on d pages of nairaland and newspaper.
toecyne:
It is sometimes very annoying wen some people say Okocha is the best footballer ever, and that he is not recognized becos he is Nigerian.
Some even say he is better than Ronaldinho because he benched Ronaldinho wen dinho was only 20, and was yet to adapt to european football. Y not just say giggs is also better than C.Ronaldo because he benched him wen he was new in Man United or that Guily is better than Messi because he benched messi wen messi was still very young

Yaya toure is an african nd he is leading man city, Eto was Barcelona top striker for abt 4 years and a nigerian also played for barca in the 1990s, mikel(a nigerian) was nearly thorn apart by man u and chelsea, they wanted him badly.. my point is african/nigerian or not, you would be rewarded accordingly and sought after if you are that good. Okocha is jst over hyped

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by SirAweezy(m): 5:18pm On Oct 19, 2014
otipoju:
You must be a fool to call my analysis rubish. When he went to Fernebache, was the turkish leauge not a backwater leauge. Does this not align with what I said about his not being ambitious.

Tell me where the worlds greatest players are found. Do you find them at Bolton, Frankfurt, Fenerbache?

Gorge Weah a liberian from Black Africa was World best and Europe best playing for AC Milan.

Eto Samuel exploits at Barcelona will never be forgotten in Europe. So quit the " its because he is a blackman" crutches that you used to support your handicapped arguments to support mediocrity.

Stupid Old fool like you.


If you can't respect yourself by being civil, you should just shut your trap.


be-careful what you say today, might come to hurt you tomorrow.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by otipoju(m): 5:20pm On Oct 19, 2014
ShakurM:
Kai! How more recognised he would be.

That is exactly my point, how many central midfielders currently in Madrid are as gifted as he is. None.
Things he did at Bolton were exceptional but ifhe did them at Madrid, in an el classic match, he would be the most expensive player in the world and will win player of the world for five years straight.


My point is that okocha had no such ambition early in his career. If he had he would have strolled into any top club in the world.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by comrChris(m): 5:20pm On Oct 19, 2014
May be the Op mean another overhyped which is contrary to the overhype l know
Op do you think if Okocha was to play football today he will not be in the class or even greater than your so called todays great players?
Pls op l would assume you go back to you-tube and watch again okochas wonderful dribbllings/passing and even goals
Okocha remains nigerians ever greatest player even though l was still a kid then l have watched some of his games in you-tube and all l could say is that what says about him is nothing but the truth,he is indeed a great and unlucky player nigeria has produced
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Oduduwaboy(m): 5:25pm On Oct 19, 2014
Hmmm. This OP i hope say bad belle no go kill una o. Okocha remains a football great to many of us. We still long for those days when he gave us lots of happy moments. If Mikelus Obilus was half as good , Nigerian football wont be in the mess it is in today.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by emmansy(m): 5:25pm On Oct 19, 2014
Una dey here dey argue when Alaba boys do correct compilation of Jayjay Okocha, titled "Best of Jayjay Okocha" if you need a copy, contact me..... Maybe that could help your argument...
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by orbis(m): 5:25pm On Oct 19, 2014
ednut1:
jay okoch won no trophy in his club career. he was a skillful average player

Bros please look at his club honors in his page at Wikipedia. Always do a little research before deceiving the public ..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Jay_Okocha
onoursClub honours*.Saarland Cup: 1990, 1992*.Oberliga Südwest: 1991*.Fuji-Cup: 1992*.Chancellor Cup: 1998*.Atatürk Cup: 1998*.Trophée des Champions: 1998*.UEFA Intertoto Cup: 2001*.Football League Cup:Runner-Up2004*.Football League Championshipplay-off:2008International honours*.African Cup of Nations: 1994*.Afro-Asian Cup of Nations: 1995*.Olympic Games:1996
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Niyinficient(m): 5:27pm On Oct 19, 2014
toecyne:
It is sometimes very annoying wen some people say Okocha is the best footballer ever, and that he is not recognized becos he is Nigerian.
Some even say he is better than Ronaldinho because he benched Ronaldinho wen dinho was only 20, and was yet to adapt to european football. Y not just say giggs is also better than C.Ronaldo because he benched him wen he was new in Man United or that Guily is better than Messi because he benched messi wen messi was still very young

Yaya toure is an african nd he is leading man city, Eto was Barcelona top striker for abt 4 years and a nigerian also played for barca in the 1990s, mikel(a nigerian) was nearly thorn apart by man u and chelsea, they wanted him badly.. my point is african/nigerian or not, you would be rewarded accordingly and sought after if you are that good. Okocha is jst over hyped
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by omodapson(m): 5:27pm On Oct 19, 2014
Okocha was at a time the most expensive African football player. Do you place a high tag on an overrated player? I guess most of those commenting negatively did not see him play at his prime.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by dabossman(m): 5:29pm On Oct 19, 2014
Icecomrade:
Long arguments on this thread. Will lend my opinion not withstanding.

Okocha was a good player of his time but wasn't good enough to carve a niche for himself.

No personal awards, no club achievements. That's what separates good players from great players.

Sadly, he can't get another opportunity to set that right.

Okocha won the BBC African footballer of the year twice but somehow Caf ignored him twice, even when he wa adjudged to be the front runner. The most glaring injustice was 1998, when he came 2nd behind Mustapha Hadji, even when he was a stand out perform at France 98 and became the most expensive African player when he was signed by PSG after the World Cup. I'd say he was just unlucky.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Tbamo(m): 5:30pm On Oct 19, 2014
otipoju:
sad

Mr man just keep quiet if you can't comprehend and stop making a fool of yourself. Greatness is synonymous with exploits. What are okochas exploits that make him rank among the greatest. Give me hard facts.

Is it not the same Pele that believes that neymar is better than messi and predicted that an african country will win the world cup before 2010.lets leave what Pele thinks and give me concrete arguments

You don't even understand the crux of the matter before running your mouth and attacking me making noise like a machine for grinding pepper.Okochas quality is not in doubt and i have not questioned it in any way.he would be a welcome addition to any topside.

What I have been trying to drum into your senile brain is that he shied away from the path to greatness by having other intrrests that were antithetic to the road less travelled.

For crying out loud we are talking about a player who had the skills and precensce of mind to humiliate Oliver khan and about four defenders in the goal area before deciding to score even though he had the chance. Entertaining but not purposeful. It was late in his career that his game evolved and he was phenomenal at Bolton and by that time age had caught up with him.

Stop trying to claim one arcane knowledge on a subject as simple as simple as a club desiring or being offered a good player by an agent and choosing to sign him after some negotiations as regards his value among other things. Oga go and sit down somewhere if you no get point.

Guy reading your arguement gave me some hope for nairaland!
It was totally to the point with tight facts and the right spicing on top( Nigerian insults translated into English) ! I am saving the page as a reference for other arguments in the future!
Nice one guy!
Rossike or what's ur name the guy done finish you give am handshake and concede!

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by otipoju(m): 5:31pm On Oct 19, 2014
[quote author=SirAweezy post=27277585]

be-careful what you say today, might come to hurt you tomorrow. [/quot

Na the guy first start am. Unfortunately he picked the wrong moment. Go check my posts, I am not unjustifiably abusive. My words were chosen carefully to inflict maximum damage to his psyche so that he will think well before calling some one else's opinion rubbish.

I do not hate him and will gladly hangout with him if we eve r met. Rossike I sheath my sword and apologise.

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by kraftykc(m): 5:32pm On Oct 19, 2014
toecyne:

Who released you from the prison?

Fvck! Straight to the insults I. Person didn't agree with u so u go the puerile path.

Abeg carry your childish ass outta here.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by SirAweezy(m): 5:33pm On Oct 19, 2014
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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by mattazz(m): 5:34pm On Oct 19, 2014
ah jux dey read d comments dey go..if una like fight, curse or swear...na my soup I dey wait for to tidy my eba...smile and *smh*
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by SirAweezy(m): 5:35pm On Oct 19, 2014
[quote author=otipoju post=27277931][/quote]

Goodman! Goodman!! grin
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by gatiano(m): 5:39pm On Oct 19, 2014
jay jay is a football junky, he is addicted to playing football, he loves playing, it makes him really happy. if you check his game play especially when he misses possible goals, she smiles or laughs, it shows he just loves ball on his feet. so he never had no time for football politics, that top club or that top club, he goes/went to clubs where he could play 24/7. that dude did full career football with no or little recorded injuries. e easy? i don't like football that much, sport is boring to me, jay jay made me look football, after he retired, i just see nigerian/african score board just to be proud of myself.

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by otipoju(m): 5:39pm On Oct 19, 2014
Tbamo:


Guy reading your arguement gave me some hope for nairaland!
It was totally to the point with tight facts and the right spicing on top( Nigerian insults translated into English) ! I am saving the page as a reference for other arguments in the future!
Nice one guy!
Rossike or what's ur name the guy done finish you give am handshake and concede!

I am an Awo hall Alomulaya .we argued coherently and we traded insults for fun back in those days. I have nothing against rossike and I hope he understands that.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by dabossman(m): 5:41pm On Oct 19, 2014
clevadani:
I used to rate Okocha as d best footballer ever growing up but as I continued watching football and started having a deep understanding of d game,I realised dat he was an good average player. I have read d comments of some people saying caf robbed him(used to think dis way) because he's not from a french speaking country,dat is balderdash. Dere is no way he could have won d award over drogba or etoo because dey were not just playing for top teams,dey were d top marksmen in their teams.
If jay jay was as good as some ppl here claim,y did no top team approach him for his signature? Or a u guys trying to tell me dat u r better dan international scouts?
Ps:Jay Jay remains one of my favorite players

Can you explain why he lost to Mustapha Hadji in 1998, even after a stellar performance at the World Cup and becoming the most expensive African player in the same year? Kanu won in 1999 simply for joining Arsenal in the summer and having a few good games, yet Okocha was ignored the year before for Mustapha Hadji. Please explain.

And by the way, the same PSG that Ibrahimovic and many other top players today play for signed Okocha and made him the most expensive player. This same club had Ronaldinho in their team. In those days the EPL wasn't so popular as it is today. The French league was more popular, along with Italy and Spain.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Tbamo(m): 5:45pm On Oct 19, 2014
otipoju:


I am an Awo hall Alomulaya .we argued coherently and we traded insults for fun back in those days. I have nothing against rossike and I hope he understands that.

Which of the awo galls? Great UI or rubbish Ife?
I knew that kind of intellect could only be found in one of those two universities!
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Nobody: 5:45pm On Oct 19, 2014
otipoju:
sad

Mr man just keep quiet if you can't comprehend and stop making a fool of yourself.

Shut the fck up and get lost. You're stup.id with nothing upstairs. I bet it is your ethnic chauvinism that is worrying you. Nasty wastrel.

Greatness is synonymous with exploits. What are okochas exploits that make him rank among the greatest. Give me hard facts.

Dummy, have you heard of Alfredo di Stefano? He never played a single World Cup, but is rated among the greatest ever footballers in history. Have you heard of Boniek? Have you heard of Socrates? Zico? Eusebio? These were world class players. Top of the class. Yet they 'won nothing' as individual players. I know you are a DUNCE so it's no point carrying on with you. Just wasting my time.

Is it not the same Pele that believes that neymar is better than messi and predicted that an african country will win the world cup before 2010.lets leave what Pele thinks and give me concrete arguments

Neymar has not really been given his chance to shine yet, and Pele was right to be optimistic about African soccer back in the mid 90s. He doesn't think black is inferior unlike a dunce like you. He didn't bank on inferiority complex ridden idiotts like you who lose a game before you even enter the pitch because you hear names like 'Messi'.

For crying out loud we are talking about a player who had the skills and precensce of mind to humiliate Oliver khan and about four defenders in the goal area before deciding to score even though he had the chance. Entertaining but not purposeful.


You are beyond STUPI.D. If Messi or C. Ronaldo had scored that goal you would be all praises for them, IDIATT slave.

It was late in his career that his game evolved and he was phenomenal at Bolton and by that time age had caught up with him.

Olodo, it was actually at FENEBAHCE that he was in his prime, where he scored 32 goals in 60 games - a stunning output for a midfielder. By right he should have been snapped up by Madrid, Barca, AC Milan etc straight from Fenebahce. Afterall those clubs at the time had very average guys in midfield like Nunez, Soldado, Alex Perez, Luis Garcia, Luis Enqrique etc. Are you trying to tell us those guys were better than Jay Jay Okocha? Or even close to Okocha? Idiatttt~~~

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by iamdjtune: 5:49pm On Oct 19, 2014
toecyne:
It is sometimes very annoying wen some people say Okocha is the best footballer ever, and that he is not recognized becos he is Nigerian.
Some even say he is better than Ronaldinho because he benched Ronaldinho wen dinho was only 20, and was yet to adapt to european football. Y not just say giggs is also better than C.Ronaldo because he benched him wen he was new in Man United or that Guily is better than Messi because he benched messi wen messi was still very young

Yaya toure is an african nd he is leading man city, Eto was Barcelona top striker for abt 4 years and a nigerian also played for barca in the 1990s, mikel(a nigerian) was nearly thorn apart by man u and chelsea, they wanted him badly.. my point is african/nigerian or not, you would be rewarded accordingly and sought after if you are that good. Okocha is jst over hyped

Can you please shut up?

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by abatically(m): 5:49pm On Oct 19, 2014
sukkot:
i think this will be a fair and accurate accolade for jayjay >> THE MOST EXCITING AND SKILLFULL PLAYER TO WATCH, TO EVER COME OUT OF AFRICA

notice i said the most exciting and not the most effective
wink CASE CLOSED

Very correct. The most exciting player to watch out of Africa, but definitely not The most effective, and definitely not the most exciting to watch in the rest of the world. Ronaldinho, messi, ronaldo, Roberto baggio, rivaldo, etc are also exciting to watch but they surpass Okocha because they are also effective.

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Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by StealthyMe(m): 5:55pm On Oct 19, 2014
Oya make una dey carry Okocha matter for head... undecided
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by tolulinks(m): 5:57pm On Oct 19, 2014
toecyne:
It is sometimes very annoying wen some people say Okocha is the best footballer ever, and that he is not recognized becos he is Nigerian.
Some even say he is better than Ronaldinho because he benched Ronaldinho wen dinho was only 20, and was yet to adapt to european football. Y not just say giggs is also better than C.Ronaldo because he benched him wen he was new in Man United or that Guily is better than Messi because he benched messi wen messi was still very young

Yaya toure is an african nd he is leading man city, Eto was Barcelona top striker for abt 4 years and a nigerian also played for barca in the 1990s, mikel(a nigerian) was nearly thorn apart by man u and chelsea, they wanted him badly.. my point is african/nigerian or not, you would be rewarded accordingly and sought after if you are that good. Okocha is jst over hyped

u dey craze. okocha was a COMPLETE footballer who could think on his feet anyday anytime. if you had said Kanu Nwankwo I wouldn't have argued despite his winning african footballer of the year twice. I think he's a tad overrated but OKocha?? again, u dey craze
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by Nobody: 5:57pm On Oct 19, 2014
abatically:


Very correct. The most exciting player to watch out of Africa, but definitely not The most effective, and definitely not the most exciting to watch in the rest of the world. Ronaldinho, messi, ronaldo, Roberto baggio, rivaldo, etc are also exciting to watch but they surpass Okocha because they are also effective.

Okocha was HIGHLY EFFECTIVE. 32 goals in 60 games for Fenebahche. What other effectiveness do you want? Some of you we know only began watching football with EPL, which is why you are CLUELESS about how EFFECTIVE Okocha was in his prime. He was VERY SKILFULL AND VERY EFFECTIVE. When he moved to PSG, his coach, an absolute dunce, played him in all sorts of funny positions eg on the wings. This led to a drop in his goal tally. The minute he left for Bolton and was returned to his traditional attacking midfield role, the goals began flowing again. So Okocha was VERY EFFECTIVE.
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by tolulinks(m): 5:58pm On Oct 19, 2014
toecyne:
It is sometimes very annoying wen some people say Okocha is the best footballer ever, and that he is not recognized becos he is Nigerian.
Some even say he is better than Ronaldinho because he benched Ronaldinho wen dinho was only 20, and was yet to adapt to european football. Y not just say giggs is also better than C.Ronaldo because he benched him wen he was new in Man United or that Guily is better than Messi because he benched messi wen messi was still very young

Yaya toure is an african nd he is leading man city, Eto was Barcelona top striker for abt 4 years and a nigerian also played for barca in the 1990s, mikel(a nigerian) was nearly thorn apart by man u and chelsea, they wanted him badly.. my point is african/nigerian or not, you would be rewarded accordingly and sought after if you are that good. Okocha is jst over hyped
Re: Okocha Annoying Hype by abatically(m): 6:02pm On Oct 19, 2014
MrPresident1:


Effectiveness is relative. Jay jay's job wasn't to score goals, his duty was to marshal the midfield, and provide critical supplies to the attackers, he did his job beautifully well. One of the best midfielders the world has ever known.

His job wasn't to score goals, but his goals were well needed grin

Dont be deceived bro. As a Nigerian it is normal to add sentiments, but let's be real, Jay jay was great but did he really do his job well in the midfield? Primarily the first thing that comes to Jay jay's mind when he gets the ball is 'SHOW OFF'. Passing the ball is secondary. As a deep playmaker, sometimes his teammates make the run but Okocha was busy showing off his skills. Yes he got amazing skills no doubt, but so was denilson of Brazil. This is the main reason big clubs never came for him, they saw him as an unserious player, not very effective . Very good to get the crowd excited, but terrible in helping his team get a result.

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