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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Kashif(m): 2:39pm On Oct 25, 2014
Capitals:

Both trades ended up lossing, wasn't ready to give back more from what I gained from the market this week. MM and knowing how to lose smartly are some ways of staying profitable from my experience. see ya ll next week

My analysis pointed to selling GBPAUD at that point instead, reason I cautioned. It is well......
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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Capitals: 5:27am On Oct 26, 2014
Kashif:


My analysis pointed to selling GBPAUD at that point instead, reason I cautioned. It is well......

Yeah, it s well my brother. Lost some combined 50+ pips on those calls. Its happens to me every once in a while, That why MM is advisable.

Was a very much profitable week in spite of that, my gratitude goes to God.

I intended making those two trades my last for the day, but saw an oppotunity to make something and couldn't resist. I dont quite like the trade even though its in profit now and already hit 1st TP. Why dont I like it you may ask?
Its cos I understand the vale of discipline in this business, and my pastor taught extensively on the force of discipline a while back. So even though I gain back in terms of lost pips, cant say same for my efforts at been more disciplined. Tired of typing, I feel like I have written an entire book already. Here's the chart of the trade for whoever wants to see. I like posting charts so it s clear that I m actually taking these trades and not just calling entries. (I know someone is watching, cos I was actively watching the thread for a long time without commenting on anyone's post)

Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Nobody: 7:02am On Oct 26, 2014
I think This can help someone.
ENJOY as you read it.

Why we make bad choices




Here’s a question for you …

You’re faced with a urn which contains 30 red balls, and an unknown number of black and yellow balls, which add up to a total of 60, meaning there are 90 total balls in the urn.

You’re given the choice of two sets of gambles you can take:

Gamble A: you win £100 if you draw a red ball from the urn
OR
Gamble B: you win £100 if you draw a black ball from the urn

and

Gamble C: you win £100 if you draw a red or yellow ball
OR
Gamble D: you win £100 if you draw a black or yellow ball

Which do you take?

If you’re like most people, you’ll have chosen gamble A and gamble D, because both of these options have known probabilities.

With gamble A, we know we have a 33% chance of pulling out a red ball from the 90 in the jar. With gamble D, we know we have a 66% chance of pulling out either a black or yellow ball.

However, there’s a flaw in our logic, because the first gamble assumes that there are more red balls than black ones – a scenario which would make gamble C a better choice for the second bet.

This quirk of human brains is also called ‘ambiguity aversion’ – we’ll generally choose risky situations over ambiguous ones.

So, how does this affect our trading decisions?

If human beings have an aversion to unknowns, then they will naturally move towards ‘safe’ investment decisions. They’ll go with something tried and tested, with a fixed return, which feels safe and reliable.

I guess it’s why so many people put their money in savings accounts.

If this is true, then as traders we’re already bucking this convention – we’ve taken a decision to seek out higher returns, and the flip-side of the decision is that we’re taking on the ambiguous.

What makes traders behave this way?

Well, psychologists have linked a particular personality trait with people who show less ambiguity aversion – and that’s optimism. And it would certainly seem that traders are naturally optimistic people.

A natural optimism that drives us to look for better income streams and to improve our financial health is a great thing …

… but, a natural optimism in individual trading decisions … well, that can be dangerous.

It can lead us into terrible decision making like … ‘I’ll double my stakes to win back what I lost on the last two trades’ … ‘I’ve had four losses in a row, so I must be owed a winner’ … ‘The last 3 trades have won, so I’ll double my stakes for the next one to take advantage of this winning streak’ …

So, we’re faced with a contradiction …

The same optimism that led us to seek out improved returns for our money, can also lead us to make poor decisions with that money in the market.

But we don’t need to be stuck in this dead end – all too aware of our own weaknesses and failings, traders have already come up with a solution …

The rules-based trading strategy.

Most successful traders rely on rules-based, regimented trading systems. This is true of home traders following a list of rules they’ve written down themselves … to professional investment strategies that use complex algorithm programs, and everything in between.

These rules stop us from following our hunches, or just crossing our fingers and hoping that luck will be on our side.

Instead, they rely on research, testing, and retesting.

Even traders who do rely on judgment calls on their individual trades, will still have a set of rules that must be fulfilled before they’ll even consider a trade.

This style of trading helps us to keep disciplined and to quieten the battle that’s going on between our optimistic side of our nature, and the side that’s averse to ambiguity.

The thing about ambiguity is that it can be the traders best friend…and his worst enemy.

Ambiguity is the thing that adds risk to your trade – and it’s the reason why we can make money. The fact that we’re prepared to accept the unknown about which trades will win and which will lose is why we can get our superior returns.

But at the same time, we need to keep disciplined.

There’s a great experiment carried out by a scientist called BF Skinner in the behaviour of rats.

If the rats were randomly rewarded with food for pressing a lever (ie sometimes they got food, sometimes they didn’t), they became obsessive lever-pressers, never knowing which press will bring them a reward.

You can probably already see where I’m going here …

There is always an unknown element in our trading.

We need to be sure that we don’t turn into rats frantically hitting a lever.

Sure, there’s ambiguity in trading – we can’t know which trades will win.

But we can find patterns and develop strategies to give us an edge. It’s this knowledge of winning percentages that makes our behaviour rational.

And not just like rats hitting that lever!

The crucial thing to note from this is that what we believe are logical decisions are often very flawed. I’m sorry to say this, but human beings are rubbish at weighing up risks and making a rational choice – especially in the heat of the moment.

But we can be good at building disciplined, rule-based strategies, and following them. These systems can be a piece of software that automatically trades for us … or scribbled on a piece of paper. What matters is that it’s based on solid research, it shows a clear edge of the market, and we are able to follow those rules to the letter.


Best Regards,
Next time,

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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Nobody: 7:15am On Oct 26, 2014
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Jcob(m): 8:59am On Oct 26, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.
indicated! jackobzn@yahoo.com
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Benqozenero(m): 9:12am On Oct 26, 2014
indicated.
Benqozenero@gmail.com
Thanks.
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by fxbomovi: 10:43am On Oct 26, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.
interested sir @ fxbom@ovi.com
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by yetown(m): 11:13am On Oct 26, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.

Am interested....akinyelu.adeniyi@gmail.com
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by fatalitho: 11:16am On Oct 26, 2014
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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by amolak: 11:59am On Oct 26, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.
Interested sir amolak09@gmail.com
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by latestsunny(m): 1:23pm On Oct 26, 2014
Bad news for Euro pairs

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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by sammyjay76(m): 5:36pm On Oct 26, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.

I NEED IT TOO BRO... sajolive6@gmail.com
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by omejeo: 7:08pm On Oct 26, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.
intrested poampearl@gmail.com thanks
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Parisfran(f): 7:08pm On Oct 26, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
I think This can help someone.
ENJOY as you read it.

Why we make bad choices




Here’s a question for you …

low ball

Which do you take?

If you’re like most people, you’ll have chosen gamble A and gamble D, because both of these options have known probabilities.

With gamble A, we know we have a 33% chance of pulling out a red ball from the 90 in the jar. With gamble D, we know we have a 66% chance of pulling out either a black or yellow ball.

However, there’s a flaw in our logic, because the first gamble assumes that there are more red balls than black ones – a scenario which would make gamble C a better choice for the second bet.

This quirk of human brains is also called ‘ambiguity aversion’ – we’ll generally choose risky situations over ambiguous ones.

So, how does this affect our trading decisions?

If human beings have an aversion to unknowns, then they will naturally move towards ‘safe’ investment decisions. They’ll go with something tried and tested, with a fixed return, which feels safe and reliable.

I guess it’s why so many people put their money in savings accounts.

If this is true, then as traders we’re already bucking this convention – we’ve taken a decision to seek out higher returns, and the flip-side of the decision is that we’re taking on the ambiguous.

What makes traders behave this way?

Well, psychologists have linked a particular personality trait with people who show less ambiguity aversion – and that’s optimism. And it would certainly seem that traders are naturally optimistic people.

A natural optimism that drives us to look for better income streams and to improve our financial health is a great thing …

… but, a natural optimism in individual trading decisions … well, that can be dangerous.

It can lead us into terrible decision making like … ‘I’ll double my stakes to win back what I lost on the last two trades’ … ‘I’ve had four losses in a row, so I must be owed a winner’ … ‘The last 3 trades have won, so I’ll double my stakes for the next one to take advantage of this winning streak’ …

So, we’re faced with a contradiction …

Best Regards,
Next time,
This is your first long post I'm reading and I'm in love with it. Just what I need to read.
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by AKBINARY: 8:57pm On Oct 26, 2014
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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by ysl1(m): 10:04pm On Oct 26, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.

Add me to your list Adeyosola2001@yahoo.com tanks sir
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Nobody: 10:48pm On Oct 26, 2014
Take note of DST end y'all

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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by zibah1: 11:18pm On Oct 26, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.

Please I'm interested. Send to ninithegirl@gmail.com. Thank you.
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by rmb5491: 12:09am On Oct 27, 2014
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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by adeyinkabasir(m): 7:23am On Oct 27, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.
Pls sir, I'm interested oooo here is my e-mail: ykpuffy4real17@gmail.com
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Jcob(m): 8:12am On Oct 27, 2014
I just shorted Dax at 9080. sl 9100 tp 9000

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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by omejeo: 8:17am On Oct 27, 2014
Jcob:
I just shorted Dax at 9080. sl 9100 tp 9000
dax is going up
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Jcob(m): 8:22am On Oct 27, 2014
omejeo:
dax is going up
yes, it would go up but the gap would be closed first! Let's see what London session brings.
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Nobody: 8:32am On Oct 27, 2014
Jcob:
I just shorted Dax at 9080. sl 9100 tp 9000

Brave man! Nucca be heading to 92xx
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Jcob(m): 8:33am On Oct 27, 2014
naijababe:

Brave man! Nucca be heading to 92xx
Aunty!!! my sl will do justice . . . .lol
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Nobody: 8:36am On Oct 27, 2014
Jcob:
Aunty!!! my sl will do justice . . . .lol

It will indeed grin

@ thread, I bought oil and hoping to buy dax in the 904/5x area

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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by AmeLonRo(m): 8:38am On Oct 27, 2014
Oil, Dax? What about gold?
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Nobody: 8:47am On Oct 27, 2014
AmeLonRo:
Oil, Dax? What about gold?

Bearish in my opinion but I am putting my capital on surer bets, no time for ranging instruments cheesy

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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by Kashif(m): 9:01am On Oct 27, 2014
Capitals:

Yeah, it s well my brother. Lost some combined 50+ pips on those calls. Its happens to me every once in a while, That why MM is advisable.
Was a very much profitable week in spite of that, my gratitude goes to God.
I intended making those two trades my last for the day, but saw an oppotunity to make something and couldn't resist. I dont quite like the trade even though its in profit now and already hit 1st TP. Why dont I like it you may ask?
Its cos I understand the vale of discipline in this business, and my pastor taught extensively on the force of discipline a while back. So even though I gain back in terms of lost pips, cant say same for my efforts at been more disciplined. Tired of typing, I feel like I have written an entire book already. Here's the chart of the trade for whoever wants to see. I like posting charts so it s clear that I m actually taking these trades and not just calling entries. (I know someone is watching, cos I was actively watching the thread for a long time without commenting on anyone's post)

Indiscipline is the bane of forex traders! Conquer it, and conquer the market. It is the most difficult obstacle to overcome. The reason why traders lose money is not the market; it is the traders themselves!

I struggled with emotion for years, but was determined to stamp my foot on it. I have come to realise that fewer is better. I would rather take on trade in a month with a 300 pip reward, than take 200 trades that would leave me bruised. For perenial losers, would it not have been cool if we had not taken a single trade since funding our accounts? I knew I was making progress when I started taking good trades too early. From there, I tweaked my timing, and things began to fall into shape. These days, I am fine with two to three trades in a week.

@Capitals, I can see you are a nak.ed (don't know why this word is censored) trader, and it means a lot! Kudos!

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Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by kleenox(m): 9:08am On Oct 27, 2014
iheanyiebeneze:
take a look at FUNDAMENTAL news for the week at www.dailyfx.com.
interest rate for USA is this week. levels must change this week.
i will send my TRADING STRATEGY to selected few. indicate if you are interested.
may this week bring us more pips.
Pls share me sur: kleenox2@gmail.com
Re: Forex Trading - Season 14 by surveycash(m): 9:12am On Oct 27, 2014
morning all. Wishing us all a pipful week.

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