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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pathology(m): 4:10pm On Oct 24, 2014
good day house, pls how good or useful is enzyme in local feed formulation.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 9:06pm On Oct 24, 2014
Ttalk:
Having read up to this page i can say that i have completed my Fishery 101 and thanks must be giving to the gurus in the house who make this discussion robust, educative and informative, thanks to Robonski 15, Exellecorfarm, Abx 1, Juve farm, Phemmy, Ayosat and other gurus in the house.

This has led me into going into next stage by seeking practical consultation within my area in Abuja to know the viability of the business, this led me to a consultant with a degree in Fishery who express his reservation on fish farming in this part of the country for following reasons:
According to him,

1. Fish business is more viable in the south compare to north
2. Earthen pond is better than concrete pond because of its ability to absorb wastes and less usage of water
3. The cost of foreign feeds has increased from N2500 to over N5000 in the last 10years without the correspondent increase in the cost of fish
4. The profit after the cost of feed does not measure with the input and labour
5. The same amount of input would generate more returns when ventured into poultry

Although most his concerned have been discussed in the post above, yet the different in location south/north could make a big different in success or failure of catfish business. While i believe there exist different means of maximising profit among fish farmers in the south by the usage of local and formulated feed to reduce the expenses and increase the profit because of the availability of the components in different parts of the south, the same cannot be said about fish farmers in Abuja who largely depend on foreign feeds from inception to maturity.

How can a farmer in Abuja make profit despite the huge cost of foreign feed and non availability of local component to formulate local feeds that are less expensive?

Please i need answered to the questions from the farmers in Abuja and environs and other gurus i.e. Robonski, Exellecorfirm, Abx 1 and others who have been genuinely impacting, educating and sharing their knowledge free of charge on this forum

I intend rearing learning hatching to get my seed to be stocked in 2 10X10 concrete ponds beginning from January

Also when digging a borehole what should be the needed water level for catfish rearing, i heard of something like [neutral] dont really understand it

Also what is the cost effect of flow through system over concrete pond that uses aerator to supply the needed oxygen

sorry for the late response..

1. we cant conclude that fish business is more viable in the south than north.. The price of feed in the north is a bit high with a corresponding increase in the price of fish..

2. Both type of pond culture are good, depending on the knowledge of operation. A farmer using a concrete pond will be doing well than another using an earthen pond if the right knowledge is not applied.. we have seen farmers loosing out in both earthen and concrete. All what we need is the right knowledge of the type of pond culture one wants to venture into.

3. The price of fish has increased in the past ten years, sometimes back a kg of fish was 250-300.. Though the price of fish has been static due to the monopoly of the market women.

4.depends on the overall management, if u don't play by the rules you loose out.

5. poultry has its own "wahala" i have met people who have vowed never to go back to poultry business again.. both fish and poultry has its do's and dont's.



www.agricnetwork.com

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 9:53pm On Oct 24, 2014
wisefizz:
oh.... I'm very happy to come across this type of educative thread on FISH FARMING.... i'm abt to finish constructing my fish pond, both earthen and concrete here in Osun state......The earthen pond is 7ft*11ft with 4ft dept.. my question for my BIG DADDIES in the building is HW MANY FISHES CAN I STOCK IN TO THIS MY EATHEN POND WITH THE ABOVE SIZE?

To be on a safer side u can stock 400-500..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 10:45pm On Oct 24, 2014
Shersky:
Hi guys,
Does anyone know where I can get high quality broodstock catfish in Lagos (preferably from a farm located in Lekki-Epe axis)?. Thanks.

u can contact ayosat, mickyfish..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Shersky: 6:03am On Oct 25, 2014
robonski15:


u can contact ayosat, mickyfish..
Thank you
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by wisefizz(m): 11:10am On Oct 25, 2014
robonski15:


To be on a safer side u can stock 400-500..

thanks ma bros, I think I wil go for 500

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Oyinkansolanew(f): 3:46pm On Oct 25, 2014
How can a farmer get market for fishes. Those dat buy 30-50 basin of fish at once. Bn feeding my fishes for 7months now. Plz help. Location is Akute area in ogun state
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 4:22pm On Oct 25, 2014
robonski15:


sorry for the late response..

1. we cant conclude that fish business is more viable in the south than north.. The price of feed in the north is a bit high with a corresponding increase in the price of fish..

2. Both type of pond culture are good, depending on the knowledge of operation. A farmer using a concrete pond will be doing well than another using an earthen pond if the right knowledge is not applied.. we have seen farmers loosing out in both earthen and concrete. All what we need is the right knowledge of the type of pond culture one wants to venture into.

3. The price of fish has increased in the past ten years, sometimes back a kg of fish was 250-300.. Though the price of fish has been static due to the monopoly of the market women.

4.depends on the overall management, if u don't play by the rules you loose out.

5. poultry has its own "wahala" i have met people who have vowed never to go back to poultry business again.. both fish and poultry has its do's and dont's.



www.agricnetwork.com
just to add a thing or two to what my bro wrote, poultry is more risky than fish farming, d consultant that gave the analysis above, especially in abuja, most likely isn't doing fish biz. A lot of fishes leave from lagos, ibadan , ogbomoso to abuja because of d ROI, and fish farming can be concluded as a biz with limited stress when all d parameters(knowledge, funds,water, feeding) are right. Every biz has its challenges, even sleeping has its challenges

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 8:54pm On Oct 25, 2014
excelsiorfarm:
just to add a thing or two to what my bro wrote, poultry is more risky than fish farming, d consultant that gave the analysis above, especially in abuja, most likely isn't doing fish biz. A lot of fishes leave from lagos, ibadan , ogbomoso to abuja because of d ROI, and fish farming can be concluded as a biz with limited stress when all d parameters(knowledge, funds,water, feeding) are right. Every biz has its challenges, even sleeping has its challenges
I spoke to some fish sellers earlier this week and they told me they buy their fishes from Ibadan.
I was wondering why? Is it that the fishes qr cheaper at Ibadan or that the fish farms here cannot meet up with their mkt demand?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 9:02pm On Oct 25, 2014
i will also say that fish farming is less stressfull than poultry. U feed them 3 to 4 times a day and change water twice a week, then sort biweekly.Chikena. Not like poultry dt u will be pampering like a new bride to know when it is happy or not, else, they start dieing in mass. Fish also doesnt have odour dt will disturb ur neighbours. With poultry, u try so hard to maintain an odorless farm
.
My friend had issue with his drainage and for 2 weeks, he did not change the water in his pond and nothing happened to the fishes , just with time, they stopped eating. U cannot try that wit poultry, else u go fear fear.
.
Anyway, there is no business that is entirely devoid of risks.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Sutsillac(m): 11:41pm On Oct 25, 2014
Pls any farmer from ogun state in the house dat is a member of a corperative. A founding member will be wonderful, as I need info on registering a coperative in Ogun state. thnks peeps
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 12:50am On Oct 26, 2014
excelsiorfarm:
just to add a thing or two to what my bro wrote, poultry is more risky than fish farming, d consultant that gave the analysis above, especially in abuja, most likely isn't doing fish biz. A lot of fishes leave from lagos, ibadan , ogbomoso to abuja because of d ROI, and fish farming can be concluded as a biz with limited stress when all d parameters(knowledge, funds,water, feeding) are right. Every biz has its challenges, even sleeping has its challenges

Spot on my bro

www.agricnetwork.com
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 12:51am On Oct 26, 2014
mercylicious:
i will also say that fish farming is less stressfull than poultry. U feed them 3 to 4 times a day and change water twice a week, then sort biweekly.Chikena. Not like poultry dt u will be pampering like a new bride to know when it is happy or not, else, they start dieing in mass. Fish also doesnt have odour dt will disturb ur neighbours. With poultry, u try so hard to maintain an odorless farm
.
My friend had issue with his drainage and for 2 weeks, he did not change the water in his pond and nothing happened to the fishes , just with time, they stopped eating. U cannot try that wit poultry, else u go fear fear.
.
Anyway, there is no business that is entirely devoid of risks.

Mercylicious u have spoken well..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 12:53am On Oct 26, 2014
Oyinkansolanew:
How can a farmer get market for fishes. Those dat buy 30-50 basin of fish at once. Bn feeding my fishes for 7months now. Plz help. Location is Akute area in ogun state

How many fish do u have on ground and sizes..

www.agricnetwork.com
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 12:53am On Oct 26, 2014
Shersky:

Thank you

uwc boss
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Oyinkansolanew(f): 2:09am On Oct 26, 2014
5000
robonski15:

How many fish do u have on ground and sizes..
www.agricnetwork.com
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Oyinkansolanew(f): 2:11am On Oct 26, 2014
robonski15:

How many fish do u have on ground and sizes..
www.agricnetwork.com
5000, all sizes available.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 5:22am On Oct 26, 2014
Oyinkansolanew:

5000, all sizes available.

All sizes cud mean anytin. You need to be more specific with d size. Give d various sizes and which of d sizes are more abundant.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 5:27am On Oct 26, 2014
mercylicious:
i will also say that fish farming is less stressfull than poultry. U feed them 3 to 4 times a day and change water twice a week, then sort biweekly.Chikena. Not like poultry dt u will be pampering like a new bride to know when it is happy or not, else, they start dieing in mass. Fish also doesnt have odour dt will disturb ur neighbours. With poultry, u try so hard to maintain an odorless farm
.
My friend had issue with his drainage and for 2 weeks, he did not change the water in his pond and nothing happened to the fishes , just with time, they stopped eating. U cannot try that wit poultry, else u go fear fear.
.
Anyway, there is no business that is entirely devoid of risks.

True it might be less stressful but sometimes d stress can be over whelming.

NB: i dnt knw wat cud av happened to ur frnd's drainage but dnt make it a habit to leave d fishes for two weeks wtout changing water. They will not and cannot do well with such practices.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by eazeefix: 9:14am On Oct 26, 2014
Hello everyone, pls what quantity of Fingerlings/juvenile sales should one be looking at for profitable business / month. Can 30,000 fingerlings sales be doable? Beginner but experienced farmer. Business to be done with melange production .
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 4:12pm On Oct 26, 2014
Belexy:


True it might be less stressful but sometimes d stress can be over whelming.

NB: i dnt knw wat cud av happened to ur frnd's drainage but dnt make it a habit to leave d fishes for two weeks wtout changing water. They will not and cannot do well with such practices.
.

The fence and gutter wia he drains d water fell. If he drains d ponds in dt situation, d water will enter ppl's houses. He had to raise money to build the fence and the drainage b4 he could drain.
Its not his normal practise bt unforseen circumstance caused it.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 5:01pm On Oct 26, 2014
i saw this on friday around upper iweka in Anambra. The two young boys produce local ovens. I was told its used to dry meat. What can dry meat should be able to dry fish.
It uses gas as fuel.one is 45k, the other is 55k

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by princemolak(m): 6:14pm On Oct 26, 2014
mercylicious:
i saw this on friday around upper iweka in Anambra. The two young boys produce local ovens. I was told its used to dry meat. What can dry meat should be able to dry fish.
It uses gas as fuel.one is 45k, the other is 55k


Sintl,we are anxiously waiting for you to join the whatsapp group,btw,av u stocked your farm?

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 6:24pm On Oct 26, 2014
mercylicious:

I spoke to some fish sellers earlier this week and they told me they buy their fishes from Ibadan.
I was wondering why? Is it that the fishes qr cheaper at Ibadan or that the fish farms here cannot meet up with their mkt demand?
we have many upscale fish farms in ibadan & his environs(eruwa, ogbomoso), from zartech,durante, many other private enterprises, i know of one with over 38 large(i mean large) ponds & sales of at least 35-45 tonnes weekly, ibadan has great production output & things move from high supply to high needs/market, price varies btw 450 - 550 naira, i can't give u precise answer to d magic/question, d same question was asked from me by a nairalander base in port-harcourt, same challenge -she said they have in rivers state, solution, try to reduce your production cost, possibly u might be able to compete more
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Oyinkansolanew(f): 6:40pm On Oct 26, 2014
Belexy:

All sizes cud mean anytin. You need to be more specific with d size. Give d various sizes and which of d sizes are more abundant.
Table size is more abundant. Any hope for good customers
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by lagbaja(m): 7:58pm On Oct 26, 2014
mercylicious:
i saw this on friday around upper iweka in Anambra. The two young boys produce local ovens. I was told its used to dry meat. What can dry meat should be able to dry fish.
It uses gas as fuel.one is 45k, the other is 55k
mercylicious:
i saw this on friday around upper iweka in Anambra. The two young boys produce local ovens. I was told its used to dry meat. What can dry meat should be able to dry fish.
It uses gas as fuel.one is 45k, the other is 55k

What you have there in the picture is a networking rack and not a fish or meat oven.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 9:04pm On Oct 26, 2014
lagbaja:


What you have there in the picture is a networking rack and not a fish or meat oven.

Sorry my dear. network issue here. It seems i mistakenly uploaded the networking rack of our new branch. I took the pic after after signing off for the Lan vendor.

I didnt even know the pic was uploaded as i tried many times.

I have not stocked my mini pond ooooo. Dont blame me. Am working on an office project that is on an advanced stage. Co-ordinating this has been taking most of my time and wears me off. I will be through by mid of next month. Bt my pond might be ready b4 then.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pathology(m): 7:28am On Oct 27, 2014
morning house, heavily loaded female brood stocks needed from kano, Kaduna, abuja axis pls
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by rafa47: 7:42am On Oct 27, 2014
money is very essential for us .money is the secong god
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 10:12am On Oct 27, 2014
excelsiorfarm:
just to add a thing or two to what my bro wrote, poultry is more risky than fish farming, d consultant that gave the analysis above, especially in abuja, most likely isn't doing fish biz. A lot of fishes leave from lagos, ibadan , ogbomoso to abuja because of d ROI, and fish farming can be concluded as a biz with limited stress when all d parameters(knowledge, funds,water, feeding) are right. Every biz has its challenges, even sleeping has its challenges

Yes i quite agree with you that large amount of catfish consumed in Abuja is being imported from, south, i.e., Lagos, Ibadan, Ogbomosho etc.
Does that not explained my fear that catfish business is less profitable in the north?
Or do we agree that there are limited fish farmers in and around abuja? As well as limited knowledge to manipulate production to maximise profit?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 10:19am On Oct 27, 2014
robonski15:


sorry for the late response..

1. we cant conclude that fish business is more viable in the south than north.. The price of feed in the north is a bit high with a corresponding increase in the price of fish..

2. Both type of pond culture are good, depending on the knowledge of operation. A farmer using a concrete pond will be doing well than another using an earthen pond if the right knowledge is not applied.. we have seen farmers loosing out in both earthen and concrete. All what we need is the right knowledge of the type of pond culture one wants to venture into.

3. The price of fish has increased in the past ten years, sometimes back a kg of fish was 250-300.. Though the price of fish has been static due to the monopoly of the market women.

4.depends on the overall management, if u don't play by the rules you loose out.

5. poultry has its own "wahala" i have met people who have vowed never to go back to poultry business again.. both fish and poultry has its do's and dont's.



www.agricnetwork.com

Thank you bro for your response
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 10:35am On Oct 27, 2014
Pls how can Gasolin [Petrol] Water Pump be used to pump water from a well? Unable to upload the pics. The type of the water pump is the one normally used to pump water from river. Any idea from members of the house please.

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