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Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Olaone1: 10:26pm On Nov 13, 2014

hardbody:
Sorry you are wrong. The intention is always to avoid liability on individual car basis. It has never been a group coverage. Let me ask you a simple logical question. If your car alone was parked at a lot on a given day and it got stolen, with your interpretation, will the company be liable? I think No. Reason being there must be at least one more car to make your definition work. I hope i have not confused you in anyway. If i did, please be assured it was not intended. Reading of this post is done at reader's risk......

Another example...director's.....single director

Directors'....as a group or a board.

Cheers.

Good point.

Even on NL, at times, you see "there are zero messages in your inbox"

Or "there are 0 guests reading this" cheesy

0 and plural "guests"? Don't fret! It is a correct expression. wink

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by MadCow1: 10:49pm On Nov 13, 2014

Olaone1:
You are wrong, Madcow.

Okay. Let me give you this test

"Everybody is responsible for their safety". Correct or incorrect?

Remember, there are two discussion points in my question: "everybody" and "their"

I honestly feel like we have deviated from the subject of this thread in a way.. Reason being that the example given by the OP deals with possessive nouns and how the placement of an apostrophe changes a possessive noun from singular to plural form. However, I will indulge your new challenge for academic reasons;

Your sentence contains two key words... 'Everybody' and 'Their'..

Everybody - Indefinite pronoun. ALWAYS singular. That's why you use 'is' after it and not 'are'. And we all know a pronoun is used in place of a noun..

Their - possessive adjective. Used to show possession. And you know that adjectives are used to qualify nouns.. And an adjective MUST always be used before a noun which in the case of your example is the word 'safety' and their safety is what 'everybody' (singular) which is the same as 'everyone' is possessing.

So putting them together, you example means; Each person is responsible for his/her own safety.

I am feeling darn good about this answer..

Front page this..

Cc: Seun, Mukina2,

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Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Olaone1: 10:52pm On Nov 13, 2014

MadCow1:
I honestly feel like we have deviated from the subject of this thread in a way.. Reason being that the example given by the OP deals with possessive nouns and how the placement of an apostrophe changes a possessive noun from singular to plural form. However, I will indulge your new challenge for academic reasons;

Your sentence contains two key words... 'Everybody' and 'Their'..

Everybody - Indefinite pronoun. ALWAYS singular. That's why you use 'is' after it and not 'are'. And we all know a pronoun is used in place of a noun..
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Their - possessive adjective. Used to show possession.[/size] And you know that adjectives are used to qualify nouns.. And an adjective MUST always be used before a noun which in the case of your example is the word 'safety' and their safety is what 'everybody' (singular) which is the same as 'everyone' is possessing.

So putting them together, you example means; Each person is responsible for his/her own safety.

I am feeling darn good about this answer..

Front page this..

Cc: Seun, Mukina2,

Attributive adjective?
"Their" is the possessive case of "they"

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by MadCow1: 10:58pm On Nov 13, 2014

Olaone1:
Attributive adjective.
"Their" is the possessive case of "they"

Attributive what? Noun, Adjective or what?

**modified**

So am I wrong?

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Olaone1: 11:02pm On Nov 13, 2014

MadCow1:
Attributive what? Noun, Adjective or what?

**modified**

So am I wrong?

And, "their" in that sentence is not there for what you stated above. Not as a possessive or attributive adjective. IT IS A PRONOUN THERE

"Their" in my example is used as an indefinite singular antecedent in place of masculine form "his"
Read more: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/their

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Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by MadCow1: 11:05pm On Nov 13, 2014

Olaone1:
And, "their" in that sentence is not there for what you stated above. Not as a possessive or attributive adjective. IT IS A PRONOUN THERE

"Their" in my example is used as an indefinite singular antecedent in place of masculine form "his"
Read more: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/their

Accepted...

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Olaone1: 11:06pm On Nov 13, 2014

MadCow1:
Accepted...

Thank you. Cool

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by MadCow1: 11:13pm On Nov 13, 2014

Olaone1:
Thank you. Cool

Still doesn't mean I am wrong about the subject matter of the thread though.. tongue

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Olaone1: 11:18pm On Nov 13, 2014

MadCow1:
Still doesn't mean I am wrong about the subject matter of the thread though..

You are WRONG, bro

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by venivedivici(m): 12:06am On Nov 14, 2014

The correct answer is: cars are parked at owner's risk.
Simply meaning that every car is parked at the risk of the owner.

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Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by darne(m): 4:37am On Nov 14, 2014

Make una go school biko tongue

Cars are parked at owner`s risk

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by kendraloops: 5:32am On Nov 14, 2014

https://www.nairaland.com/1995601/sos-please-hamed-djdola

help save a nairalander's life

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Nobody: 6:46am On Nov 14, 2014*

Both car parks are correct..
BOTH are. CORRECT..

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Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by kudoxs(m): 7:10am On Nov 14, 2014

Timijo:
Which is correct?
Cars are parked at owner's risk or cars are parked at owners' risk.
Please state your reason(s)

both are correct....Cars are parked at owner's risk is indicating that the owner is one, u can use it if it's only one owner parking many cars there.....cars are parked at owners' risk is indicating that we have more than one owner.

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by LORDI(m): 7:12am On Nov 14, 2014

Car parked with owner's risk.finito.

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Timijo(op): 7:38am On Nov 14, 2014

kudoxs:
both are correct....Cars are parked at owner's risk is indicating that the owner is one, u can use it if it's only one owner parking many cars there.....cars are parked at owners' risk is indicating that we have more than one owner.

If you say this is correct ''cars are parked at owner's risk'', can one owner drive more than one car at a time. Remember that it is a warning inscription for owners of cars.

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Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by bukie26(f): 8:19am On Nov 14, 2014

Timijo:
Which is correct?
In this case, Cars are parked at owner's risk or cars are parked at owners' risk.
Please state your reason(s)

I tink d correct ans is "cars are parked at owners' risk" this is because d word "cars" is plural which signify dt its nt just one person bt many individuals.
Illustration*tayo's bag is lovely, moses' bag is lovely. If u luk at d two statement, u'll notice a slight difference daz because moses alredy ends with letter 's' daz y d apostrophe was placed aft d 's'. On d oda hand, in d case of tayo, d appostrophe was added, den d s. In some cases, a word can serve both purpose(tayo's nd moses') eg trader's and traders', reporter's and reporters' likewise owner's nd owners'.
Illustration*1.a. the trader's stall is damaged, the traders' stalls are damages

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by kudoxs(m): 8:21am On Nov 14, 2014

Timijo:
If you say this is correct ''cars are parked at owner's risk'', can one owner drive more than one car at a time. Remember that it is a warning inscription for owners of cars.

one owner can have his cars driven in a convoy, so if dey want to park the cars, that inscription is correct.

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by farem: 8:33am On Nov 14, 2014

Timijo:
Which is correct?
Cars are parked at owner's risk or cars are parked at owners' risk.
Please state your reason(s)

BOTH ARE CORRECT! WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:

1. Cars are parked at owner's risk: if the cars (in question) parked are owned by one persons {but this is not always practicable but cannot be ruled out}

2. Cars are parked at owners' risk. This is telling all owners (every owner) that ALL cars parked, without exception/favouritism, are parked with them bearing any unforeseen negative occurrences.

Hope I haven't complicate your confusion.

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by bukie26(f): 8:41am On Nov 14, 2014

Timijo:
Which is correct?
In this case, Cars are parked at owner's risk or cars are parked at owners' risk
Please state your reason(s)

first of all, d word "cars" is plural which signify its nt just 1 car bt many cars which could eida belong to an individual or many individuals
Illustration*tayo's bag is lovely, moses' bag is lovely. If u luk at d two statement, u'll notice a slight difference daz because moses alredy ends with letter 's' daz y d apostrophe was placed aft d 's'. in d case of tayo, d appostrophe was added, den d 's'. In some cases, a word can serve both purpose(tayo's nd moses') eg trader's and traders', reporter's and reporters' likewise owner's nd owners'.
Illustration*1.a. the trader's stall is damaged, 1.b the traders' stalls are damages. A laid emphasis on jus one trader( daz y it tuk a singular verb) whereas B emphasized on many traders(plural verb).. In d case of owners, u can say "car is parked at owner's risk(one person,referrin to one car) or cars are parked at owners' risk(referin to many indidviduals,many cars) cars are parked at owner's risk( meaning dat one persons owns many cars). In my opinion, I tink both statement are correct dependin on d context.

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by bukie26(f): 8:44am On Nov 14, 2014

This is a mistake

bukie26:
I tink d correct ans is "cars are parked at owners' risk" this is because d word "cars" is plural which signify dt its nt just one person bt many individuals.
Illustration*tayo's bag is lovely, moses' bag is lovely. If u luk at d two statement, u'll notice a slight difference daz because moses alredy ends with letter 's' daz y d apostrophe was placed aft d 's'. On d oda hand, in d case of tayo, d appostrophe was added, den d s. In some cases, a word can serve both purpose(tayo's nd moses') eg trader's and traders', reporter's and reporters' likewise owner's nd owners'.
Illustration*1.a. the trader's stall is damaged, the traders' stalls are damages

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by MadCow1: 8:45am On Nov 14, 2014

kudoxs:
both are correct....Cars are parked at owner's risk is indicating that the owner is one, u can use it if it's only one owner parking many cars there.....cars are parked at owners' risk is indicating that we have more than one owner.

If I was your teacher, I would ask you get promoted from Primary 5 to Year 1 ..

No need for Secoondary school.

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Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by MadCow1: 8:47am On Nov 14, 2014

bukie26:
I tink d correct ans is "cars are parked at owners' risk" this is because d word "cars" is plural which signify dt its nt just one person bt many individuals.
Illustration*tayo's bag is lovely, moses' bag is lovely. If u luk at d two statement, u'll notice a slight difference daz because moses alredy ends with letter 's' daz y d apostrophe was placed aft d 's'. On d oda hand, in d case of tayo, d appostrophe was added, den d s. In some cases, a word can serve both purpose(tayo's nd moses') eg trader's and traders', reporter's and reporters' likewise owner's nd owners'.
Illustration*1.a. the trader's stall is damaged, the traders' stalls are damages

Offside.. You realise that "Moses's" is also correct right?

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by bukie26(f): 10:39am On Nov 14, 2014

I dnt tink xo..but if u r certain, pls explain ur reaSon

MadCow1:
Offside.. You realise that "Moses's" is also correct right?

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by MadCow1: 10:41am On Nov 14, 2014

bukie26:
I dnt tink xo..but if u r certain, pls explain ur reaSon

[b]Apostrophes with Words Ending in s
While normal people wonder about apostrophes in general, believe it or not, word nerds have heated arguments over whether to use an additional s with singular possession.

Rule 1: Many common nouns end in the letter s (lens, cactus, bus, etc.). So do a lot of proper nouns (Mr. Jones, Texas, Christmas). There are conflicting policies and theories about how to show possession when writing such nouns. There is no right answer; the best advice is to choose a formula and stay consistent.
Some writers and editors add ‘s to every proper noun, be it Hastings’s or Jones’s. And there are a few who add only an apostrophe to all nouns ending in s—however, this method is relatively rare, and not recommended here.
One method, common in newspapers and magazines, is to add an apostrophe plus s (-’s) to common nouns ending in s, but only a stand-alone apostrophe to proper nouns ending in s.

Examples:
the class’s hours
Mr. Jones’ golf clubs
The canvas’s size
Texas’ weather

Another widely used technique is to write the word as we would speak it. For example, since most people saying, “Mr. Hastings’ pen” would not pronounce an added s, we would write Mr. Hastings’ pen with no added s. But most people would pronounce an added s in “Jones’s,” so we’d write it as we say it: Mr. Jones’s golf clubs. This method explains the punctuation of for goodness’ sake.

Rule 2: To show plural possession of a word ending in an s or s sound, form the plural first; then immediately use the apostrophe.

Examples:
the classes’ hours
the Joneses’ car
guys’ night out
two actresses’ roles

Sauce..
[/b]

**I just learnt it myself less than 24hrs ago.. Thanks to this wickid thread

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by MadCow1: 10:43am On Nov 14, 2014

Be consistent when you use apostrophes after words that end in "s." When someone's name ends with an "s," it is acceptable to use an apostrophe without an "s" to show ownership, but linguists with the Chicago Manual of Style, along with others, prefer to add an "s" after the apostrophe.[1][2]
•Note the difference in usage:

•Acceptable: Jones' house; Francis' window; Enders' family.
•Preferred: Jones's house; Francis's window; Enders's family.
•Whichever style you prefer using, be consistent with it. It doesn't really matter which policy you adopt, as long as you adopt it consistently

Another Interesting Sauce...

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Mustay(m): 10:46am On Nov 14, 2014

Olaone1:
Good point.

Even on NL, at times, you see "there are zero messages in your inbox"

Or "there are 0 guests reading this"

0 and plural "guests"? Don't fret! It is a correct expression.

This is a limitation of trying to write English correctly in programming languages so as to cater for every eventuality.

Some programmers put the plural, 's' in bracket to take care of the numbers.

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Chinum: 11:05am On Nov 14, 2014

meelorlah:
Yea,It shows possession but in this case,we have more than one owner. So the mark comes after d plural noun and that's y we have owners' .

'S is used when the item is possessed "one item per owner" i.e everyone having his/her own, while S' is used when one item is possessed by more than one person.

Cars parked at owner's risk means that the cars are owned by many people but individually.

The latter would mean that the cars belong to everybody. For e.g it would be applicable in a family with more than one car to which everyone has access.

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Sixix: 11:08am On Nov 14, 2014

MadCow1:
If I was your teacher, I would ask you get promoted from Primary 5 to Year 1 ..

No need for Secoondary school.

I have been following your comments on this thread however I will like to state that that was not the issue in that case. It had no bearing on the lawsuit.

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Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by MadCow1: 11:10am On Nov 14, 2014

Sixix:
I have been following your comments on this thread however I will like to state that that was not the issue in that case. It had no bearing on the lawsuit.

I only was drawing attention to the 'Sentence' from which the OP I quoted was trying to use in justifying her position.

I have absolutely no business with the outcome of the lawsuit.

Re: I Need Good Speakers Of English To Correct This Inscription by Sixix: 12:33pm On Nov 14, 2014

MadCow1:
I only was drawing attention to the 'Sentence' from which the OP I quoted was trying to use in justifying her position.

I have absolutely no business with the outcome of the lawsuit.

Alright

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