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impetitude:
The United States has said that it refused to sell its Cobra helicopters to Nigeria due to concerns about the Nigeria’s military ability to use and maintain them.

The cobra attack helicopter is a combat aircraft used by the US marines with the ability to climb at the rate of 8.2meters per second. It is equipped with a 20 mm M197 3-barreled Gatling cannon in the A/A49E-7 turret (750 rounds ammo capacity).

But America stated that it had provided and approved sales of military equipment to Nigerian armed forces.

The US State Department spokeswoman, Jen Psaki, stated this in Washington on Wednesday while responding to questions from journalists on the allegations made by the Nigerian ambassador to US, Prof. Adebowale Adefuye.

http://www.punchng.com/politics/why-we-refused-to-sell-cobra-helicopters-to-nigeria-us/

Bulllshhiit to them. Let's go for Russia.

chamboy:
Bro ur imagination baffles me Aswear. Do u fink if the Whites wants to wipe off the entire black race it would cost dem anything

Who is talking about wiping out. Dont let your imagination run wild, keep your visualization within the realms of sanity.

rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent

hehehehehehehehehehehe now u get them...... Nigerian science students r not scientist...... They r scienstuck.........

DaBullIT:
Your argument makes no sense Bro. Unlike Nigeria where people take pride in Aluu4 ,jungle justice , where human life and human right means nothing to anyone The US actually cares about safety and lives of its citizens and human right . Soldiers signed waivers during training and they get paid for the risks. Human rights watch did not complain about soldiers violating the rights of terrorists they complained about soldiers murdering innocent people .like a video where a man in military fatigue beheaded 6 suspected terrorists with his cutlass and they put them in a mass grave

Operating some weapons is not just load and cock and aim. Command bases , video streaming of live events , military satelites and every other factors work together for decision making in advanced countries . Also Most aeronautic engineers are mostly engineers by degree not by experience , What's the problem with Nigeria ? Maintenance culture. You buy you use you abandon . Furthermore if some members of the Nigerian army came out to say they cant shoot their brothers in Islam and they happily handed over weapons and armored tanks. That jet in the wrong hands is a disaster for Nigeria as a whole


I guess my point is that the USA has the moral and psychological obligation not to provide a weapon of mini mass destruction to Nigeria as long as barbarians are still in charge , and as long as soldiers are defecting to boko haram camps .

Now, ask yourself:
What if the US decides no to sell weapons to Nigeria?
The whole country suffers from Boko Haram, because the military will be helpless.

What if the US sells weapons to Nigeria and the war against BH is won, however with a sizable measure of human right abuses?

What If the US decides to use human rights and ''morality'' as a ruse to watch just as BH slaughters tens of thousands?

''The darkest places in Hell are reserved for those who choose to maintain their neutrality in times of great moral crisis''.
-Dante.

MightyFortress:
you must be rather stupid to say what u did...

thanks & God bless u

successking:
Human right violations! Where is Guantanamo bay located?

I have said it before and i will say it over and over again that if the sponsorship of BH in Nigeria is well investigated, there is tendency of establishing a link to US in retaliation to Nigeria's refusal to follow all her evil policies including but not limited to the following:

1. Nigeria bluntly refused to allow US establish her Military Base in Nigeria
2. Nigeria stopped the payment of any contract in crude oil
3. Nigeria rejected monetary policies recommended by Wold Bank and IMF
4. Nigeria signed into law an act criminalizing same sex marriage

and so on.

Just like we defeated Ebola we will defeat BH without US cobra and other military hardware.

YOUR STATEMENT IS FULL OF BS, WHERE / WHO IS YOUR SOURCE

Their govt actually provides the resources and conducive enviroment 4 them. Tell your govt to do the same. Btw, na the theory wey we dey do wia them dey draw machines on the board with chalk we go use build the thing. I'm sure if the govt wants innovation, they know what to do. But they'd rather take the easy way that doesn't yield any result

rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent

chamboy:
All d Naija fools calling Us BH sponsor, If dem give any of dem USA passport them no go even do next minute for naija.... Nigerians n Mixed priorities

You are a fool.
So american citizenship is the price of your conscience and love for your homeland?
cheap idiott.

shurl4:
So the president should stay for four more years just to implement "laudable" foreign policy?
I don't understand what the issue is with Nigerians to be honest!!!!

During his declaration, he listed long list of his achievements which your APC masters couldn't disprove. Mind you, good foreign policies is long list of achievements.

major466:
WE DECLINE NIGERIA'S REQUEST FOR COBRA HELICOPTERS BECAUSE WE FEAR THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO USE AND MAINTAIN IT. - USA

Well am not surprised by their ridiculous excuse. They won't want us to finish what they started. Afterall their dream is to see Nigeria disintegrate into pieces. Anything the US touches never remain the same again. Nigeria must review it's policy with the US. We need to stay away from them as far as possible. Look at what they did to Haiti and Liberia. The US is not a friend.
China is a much better ally.

IF Nigeria collapses, I pray its does not, Its Nigerians that will be blamed. Nigerians, NOT Americans, elects corrupted politicians;
U demand bribes, punish the innocent and sing praises to corrupt politicians, deny freedom, liberty, peace to the innocents; Kill the innocents because for the pursuit wealth, divert money meant for development to private account.

WHAT DO U EXPECT THAT ALL WILL BE WELL, BULLSHIT, INTO THIS VACUUM BOKO HARAM, POVERTY, MISERY HAS ARRIVED.

NIGERIANS should stop blaming America for your miseries . Charity begins at home.

I am not surprised with this level hatred of America by Nigerians, Nigerians don't even love each other talk-less of a foreign country.

As for I would prefer for Chevron / Exxon / GE / Microsoft than CCEC, SINOPEC ?? well u get it

F117AA:
You are a fool.
So american citizenship is the price of your conscience and love for your homeland?
cheap idiott.

JEALOUSY, HARD AT WORK

WELL GOOD-LUCK TO THE BANANA REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA

brainpower:
My brother, technically US owes him protection cos they are the world power and get involved where any country is being threatened by war or violence. Boko haram has been designated a terrorist group so US should come in. And moreover, we want to buy these aircrafts, its not dash as so to we won't return them in good form. They are ours.

America is just beating about the bush. They killed Gaddafi in cold blood, they were sponsoring ISIS before but now ISIS has gotten out of control. We refused to legalize same sex marriage and thses are the reasons why they stopped buying our oil and don't want to sell arms. If we decide to build our own military equipments they will make sure they frustrate it with the help of the UN. US are opportunists and every country in the world can see them as such and that's why they facing so much opposition.

mallam mentality.. Whether they r a world power is no excuse. If we cannot build simple tanks den our engineers and scientists are useless. I googled arabs and ud be shocked what they build, same wif indians. Chinese, even libya inder ghadaffi was buildn hi tech machines( those useless oyibos killed one of africas best leaders), SA is building ie the whytes there etc what's wrong with the black race. Biafra was the only time the black man started creating, perhaps wed have been miles ahead by now.

The aprtheid last leader in a speech made some remarks about the black race ie only good for marryn wives, sex, and making babies. Never manipulating his environment to suit his needs, rather just existing.

Our useless ambassador wasn't evn ashamed to accuse US. Like US owes us a duty to sell arms.

funstufz:
Tell them ooooooooo (the bolded)
I wonder how we face reality in this nation of ours, you can imagine the impunity of these so-called soldier at their 'duty post' destroying Civilians/innocent peoples phone and at time delay and punish travelers for making phone calls while passing through their so-called Road-Blocks...without any Warnings/Indicators to pre-warned travelers......

Imagine them with having access to Cobra Heli without proper training which is Lacking in their file and ranks

But Nigeria already fly more advanced helis than the cobra.
I actually dont know why we want it.
It is an obsolete overpriced machine.

mmark12:
IF Nigeria collapses, I pray its does not, Its Nigerians that will be blamed. Nigerians, NOT Americans, elects corrupted politicians;
U demand bribes, punish the innocent and sing praises to corrupt politicians, deny freedom, liberty, peace to the innocents; Kill the innocents because for the pursuit wealth, divert money meant for development to private account.

WHAT DO U EXPECT THAT ALL WILL BE WELL, BULLSHIT, INTO THIS VACUUM BOKO HARAM, POVERTY, MISERY HAS ARRIVED.

NIGERIANS should stop blaming America for your miseries . Charity begins at home.

I am not surprised with this level hatred of America by Nigerians, Nigerians don't even love each other talk-less of a foreign country.

As for I would prefer for Chevron / Exxon / GE / Microsoft than CCEC, SINOPEC ?? well u get it

Why don't you come to Nigeria and find out what is really going on as per development and human rights? Too much BBC and CNN is not good for your health.

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lomaxx:
Where was Adefuye when America was learning how to make weapons? See as the man is talking like USA owe him a duty to protect his country for him.

Who is this one?

Ichiato:
It seems like you have a personal beef with the US.
First of, @ your first bolded. You still don't get it, what makes you then think that what you have read between the line is the truth that you're suddenly critical of the US.

@ your second bolded. I might not be sure of many things but I'm hell sure I won't sit around and tell lies to the public and turn around and blame someone else.

You are right about no one knowing the truth about the shekau been killed story, but you know why? Because our military and leaders are employing the Sidon look attitude. This I think is the fourth time they are claiming to have killed shekau. What about the ceasefire that was never existent. Just a month back, they made Nigerians feel we are almost winning the war and many on nairaland here were even boosting that we should not agree to any ceasefire and show no Mercy on BH. In a matter of weeks there is no ceasefire and BH seems to have even gotten deadlier. All I ask from our military is transparency first. Just tell us Nigerians the truth.

The issue of Ebola is also another case of how people blindly critize the US. The US also had their very own home grown case of Ebola and did they use the so called drugs? No. Y? Because the drugs is still experimental. Instead they had to use the same treatment of blood therapy which is exactly also what Nigeria used and still has no guaranty of survival and yet people still criticize. You should also try taking your advise. Maybe if you put yourself in the shoes of America and a country like Nigeria comes to you for such favour you would do worse

I read between the lines of past events, history, human psychology and whatever else you can think of. My theory of uncle Sam's shady deals didn't start after wikileaks blew the trumpet. First see a sense I'm this poster's comment ↓↓↓

successking:
Human right violations! Where is Guantanamo bay located?

I have said it before and i will say it over and over again that if the sponsorship of BH in Nigeria is well investigated, there is tendency of establishing a link to US in retaliation to Nigeria's refusal to follow all her evil policies including but not limited to the following:
1. Nigeria bluntly refused to allow US establish her Military Base in Nigeria
2. Nigeria stopped the payment of any contract in crude oil
3. Nigeria rejected monetary policies recommended by Wold Bank and IMF
4. Nigeria signed into law an act criminalizing same sex marriage
and so on.
Just like we defeated Ebola we will defeat BH without US cobra and other military hardware.

Then I'll continue...

The race of whites occupying the landed area now called USA are the non Caucasians who dispossessed the Red Indians of their land and occupied

This same race chased off the aborigines from their land - Australia

This race has used biological weapons (they now sanction) once to devastate the Asians, causing a transgenerational defect - the reason for an inherent hatred

This race claimed to help Liberia forestall peace while they go behind selling guns to rebels to cause more havoc - Nigeria intervened well and brokered peace, now uncle Sam feels insulted

This race brought the HIV virus to Africa - I won't be surprised if Ebola was the same - although I cannot prove that. Now they feign helping us through grants

This race had a serious economic downturn due to wrong decisions in the real estate market and spreading it through the world, claiming its a global recession - only Germany was unaffected

This race created a false Intel about WMDs in Iraq and Saddam was foolishly arrogant to admit it as predicted - an opportunity to sap oil

This race has about the greatest bio piracy allegations because they always want to claim credit for intellectual works

.... There are thousands of conspiracies I cannot mention

Theology wise ...

I'm.not a Tune Bakare fan, but I saw his tape recorded as far back as 2005, saying then that God showed him President Bush was plotting against Nigeria in ten years time - 2015 by projection.

2014, US wants their drones here in Nigeria.

I may not have a direct evidence, but I have strong convictions.

The theory is, bokoharam started in 2001, for a noble cause against the northern politicians depriving the masses of good education while their wards attend the best schools overseas and then come back home to bear rule over the ignorant

BH was hijacked in 2005 by religious extremists - uncle Sam knows all these- an opportunity to carry out a stealthy operation. Remember what Tunde Bakare saw in 2005?

BH grew so strong because of external and internal sponsors who most likely do not know each other. It is possible the internal sponsors are disgruntled psychopaths who saw an opportunity for disruption. While the external include strong Islamic powers who desire the islamized Nigeria + Uncle Sam who's watching miles away to fuel this plots.

Uncle Sam will never give direct financial support. We're talking perhaps a tenth-man link that could lost you if you try to trace. Hiding under the guise of other schemers.

I wish I can meet u one on one - I can't say all here.

The Nigerian army - hell yea! Big time liars. Its not new. But that's not the origin of this problem. Yes it worsens it, but even the truth is better concealed in order not to increase the panic of the citizenry. Even the US does that.

major466:
Why don't you come to Nigeria and find out what is really going on as per development and human rights? Too much BBC and CNN is not good for your health.

Why won't he prefer chevron?
he is an american afterall.
He would gladly sell his family for the american dream.

revolt:
mallam mentality.. Whether they r a world power is no excuse. If we cannot build simple tanks den our engineers and scientists are useless. I googled arabs and ud be shocked what they build, same wif indians. Chinese, even libya inder ghadaffi was buildn hi tech machines( those useless oyibos killed one of africas best leaders), SA is building ie the whytes there etc what's wrong with the black race. Biafra was the only time the black man started creating, perhaps wed have been miles ahead by now.

The aprtheid last leader in a speech made some remarks about the black race ie only good for marryn wives, sex, and making babies. Never manipulating his environment to suit his needs, rather just existing.

Our useless ambassador wasn't evn ashamed to accuse US. Like US owes us a duty to sell arms.

You are an idiott.
You don't see Nigerians accusing russia of not selling us arms .
Why?
Because the US is the one pocknosing in our affairs, huffing and puffing over corruption and accusing the military of incompetence.
The US accuse the Nigerian military of poor equipping , and yet turn around to tell us not to buy from them.
Does that make sense to you?

F117AA:
I did my postgraduates in america, you dumb cheap goat.
I have an american citizenship, which i can gladly renounce for the sake of truth.

EVIDENCE PLEASE . LIAR

GlorifiedTunde:
I read between the lines of past events, history, human psychology and whatever else you can think of. My theory of uncle Sam's shady deals didn't start after wikileaks blew the trumpet. First see a sense I'm this poster's comment ↓↓↓



Then I'll continue...

The race of whites occupying the landed area now called USA are the non Caucasians who dispossessed the Red Indians of their land and occupied

This same race chased off the aborigines from their land - Australia

This race has used biological weapons (they now sanction) once to devastate the Asians, causing a transgenerational defect - the reason for an inherent hatred

This race claimed to help Liberia forestall peace while they go behind selling guns to rebels to cause more havoc - Nigeria intervened well and brokered peace, now uncle Sam feels insulted

This race brought the HIV virus to Africa - I won't be surprised if Ebola was the same - although I cannot prove that. Now they feign helping us through grants

This race had a serious economic downturn due to wrong decisions in the real estate market and spreading it through the world, claiming its a global recession - only Germany was unaffected

This race created a false Intel about WMDs in Iraq and Saddam was foolishly arrogant to admit it as predicted - an opportunity to sap oil

This race has about the greatest bio piracy allegations because they always want to claim credit for intellectual works

.... There are thousands of conspiracies I cannot mention

Theology wise ...

I'm.not a Tune Bakare fan, but I saw his tape recorded as far back as 2005, saying then that Gos showed him President Bush was plotting against Nigeria in ten years time - 2015 by projection.

2014, US wants their drones here in Nigeria.

I may not have a direct evidence, but I have strong convictions.

The theory is, bokoharam started in 2001, for a noble cause against the northern politicians depriving the masses of good education while their wards attend the best schools overseas and then come back home to bear rule over the ignorant

BH was hijacked in 2005 by religious extremists - uncle Sam knows all these- an opportunity to carry out a stealthy operation. Remember what Tunde Bakare saw in 2005?

BH grew so strong because of external and internal sponsors who most likely do not know each other. It is possible the internal sponsors are disgruntled psychopaths who saw an opportunity for disruption. While the external include strong Islamic powers who desire the islamized Nigeria + Uncle Sam who's watching miles away to fuel this plots.

Uncle Sam will never give direct financial support. We're talking of a perhaps 10 man link that could lost you if you try to trace. Hiding under the guise if other schemers.

I wish I can meet u one on one - I can't say all here.

The Nigerian army - hell yea! Big time liars. Its not new. But that's not the origin of this problem. Yes it worsens it, but even the truth is better concealed in order not to increase the panic of the citizenry. Even the US does that.

All I see here are just allegations. No reasons y I should believe or why you even believe them. No links or sources of your findings? Just blank statements
Wonder why an average Nigerian believes in conspiracy theories little or no foundation . SMH

F117AA:
You are a fool.
So american citizenship is the price of your conscience and love for your homeland?
cheap idiott.

U personally say d Truth to ursef Nigerian or American Passport which 1

Nigeria's ability to use and maintain them?! Are these clowns really serious?! The Cobra has a lot of commonality with the UH-1 Heuy (after all, it's based on that platform), and we (the Nigerian Police Force) have been using variants of that helo for DECADES now. Keep in mind that our airforce pilots are equally well versed with the Mi-35 & Mi-24 attack helos. All that is need is send pilots for type rating on the helo and we'll be fine.

saintneo:
You are wrong on your assumptions. Yes majority of Nigerian science/engineering inclined graduates are not there for the passion in the discipline, but I can tell you that there are some highly passionate about it but the general mentality of the public tends to relegate them. The spirit of adventure is almost dead, there are no heroes to follow anymore.

So? And u still get mouth to abuse ur mates in d US? Smd...That ur excuse no count...go manufacture ur needs nor!

ocelot2006:
Nigeria's ability to use and maintain them?! Are these clowns really serious?! The Cobra has a lot of commonality with the UH-1 Heuy (after all, it's based on that platform), and we (the Nigerian Police Force) have been using variants of that helo for DECADES now. Keep in mind that our airforce pilots are equally well versed with the Mi-35 & Mi-24 attack helos. All that is need is send pilots for type rating on the helo and we'll be fine.

go manufacturing ur needs.

mmark12:
EVIDENCE PLEASE . LIAR

You want me to prove i did my postgraduates in chemical engineering in america on nairaland?
okay.

major466:
Why don't you come to Nigeria and find out what is really going on as per development and human rights? Too much BBC and CNN is not good for your health.

Too much ignorance, lies is not good for your health

what developments if i may ask? power, road, the useless airports(dont dare compare them with heathrow )

BANANA REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA - piss out

PhockPhockMan:
You need brain injection. Can any foreign body achieve anything without local collaboration? Boko haram has local and foreign interests which includes religion, foreign, ethnic, political, etc. If you check APC main campaign point is all about security, security, security, without any hint of the way they will solve the matter, because they believe that they're capable of ordering them to stop when they gets the presidency.
APC is the greatest supporters of boko haram.

You hit it on the head, nice one

chamboy:
U personally say d Truth to ursef Nigerian or American Passport which 1

Sell your family for american passport.
That is your choice.

F117AA:
You want me to prove i did my postgraduates in chemical engineering in america on nairaland?
okay.

the same nairalanders u side with to badmouth the US will jealous your US credential. so dont

Ichiato:
All I see here are just allegations. No reasons y I should believe or why you even believe them. No links or sources of your findings? Just blank statements
Wonder why an average Nigerian believes in conspiracy theories little or no foundation . SMH

They're not allegations. Google is your friend bro. Don't be lazy.

Plus not every issue is out there on the web for a reference. Conspiracies are top.

You didn't even bother. Google bio piracy or US -IRAQ conspiracy or....

Just go an find it yourself. You must be born in 1990s

major466:
Why don't you come to Nigeria and find out what is really going on as per development and human rights? Too much BBC and CNN is not good for your health.

wat too much of NTA n AIT has turn u to