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Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Nobody: 12:44pm On Nov 17, 2014
Ukutsgp:
i just came here to debunk the claim that u people compiled the bible and i have done just that. Cos i hate hearing that. The bible had been compiled before your so called roman catholic came into existence. They are all in the post. U can read it up.

I dnt hv to reply u on the other matters. That is for another day. I have other business to attend to.

I dnt have ur time.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Nobody: 1:24pm On Nov 17, 2014
resol;ution 24 of the council of carthage in 419CE

Canon 24. (Greek xxvii.)

That nothing be read in church besides the Canonical Scripture

Item, that besides the Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in church under the name of divine Scripture.

But the Canonical Scriptures are as follows:
•Genesis.
•Exodus.
•Leviticus.
•Numbers.
•Deuteronomy.
•Joshua the Son of Nun.
•The Judges.
•Ruth.
•The Kings, iv. books.
•The Chronicles, ij. books.
•Job.
•The Psalter.
•The Five books of Solomon.
•The Twelve Books of the Prophets.
•Isaiah.
•Jeremiah.
•Ezechiel.
•Daniel.
•Tobit.
•Judith.
•Esther.
•Ezra, ij. books.
•Macchabees, ij. books. ◦The New Testament. ■The Gospels, iv. books.
■The Acts of the Apostles, j. book.
■The Epistles of Paul, xiv.
■The Epistles of Peter, the Apostle, ij.
■The Epistles of John the Apostle, iij.
■The Epistles of James the Apostle, j.
■The Epistle of Jude the Apostle, j.
■The Revelation of John, j. book.



Let this be sent to our brother and fellow bishop, Boniface, and to the other bishops of those parts, that they may confirm this canon, for these are the things which we have received from our fathers to be read in church.

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3816.htm
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by HARMONIEE: 1:56pm On Nov 17, 2014
nora544:


since when we have photos!
I know nigerians have a photo from her pastor at home when he is realy important.
do you know that to remember a person you need a photot did we have this 1000 years ago.
Please use your brain or perhaps you left it in the church.
lol. Please sir, use your brain too.. Who saw Mary and all those dead people when they were alive and is still alive today? The person drawing or molding is doing It out of imagination.. Don't let the spirit brainwash you too sir. I love your idea, but Hey did your Pope see Mary when she was on earth? So how come he knows what she looks like? (Exodus 20:4-5)
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by HARMONIEE: 2:00pm On Nov 17, 2014
craziebone:


the catholics in here suffer severe bashing on daily basis. Thats why they appear to be hostile. It is the same thing you find with any group of people who are exposed to attacks on daily basis. If you open a thread that tends to attack Jehovah's withnesses, christ embassy, Oyedepo, etc, you will see some of their members become hostile to you.

The bottom line is: that the catholics are being hostile to you does not confirm that they do not follow the way of christ including patience, perseverance etc.
this answer went over the bar sir, i am asking over doctrine no
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by HARMONIEE: 2:01pm On Nov 17, 2014
craziebone:


the catholics in here suffer severe bashing on daily basis. Thats why they appear to be hostile. It is the same thing you find with any group of people who are exposed to attacks on daily basis. If you open a thread that tends to attack Jehovah's withnesses, christ embassy, Oyedepo, etc, you will see some of their members become hostile to you.

The bottom line is: that the catholics are being hostile to you does not confirm that they do not follow the way of christ including patience, perseverance etc.
this answer went over the bar sir, i am asking over doctrine not behavior now, thanks for your contributions
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by MrsAwesome: 2:06pm On Nov 17, 2014
HARMONIEE:
lol. Please sir, use your brain too.. Who saw Mary and all those dead people when they were alive and is still alive today? The person drawing or molding is doing It out of imagination.. Don't let the spirit brainwash you too sir. I love your idea, but Hey did your Pope see Mary when she was on earth? So how come he knows what she looks like? (Exodus 20:4-5)
Meaning Jesus never existed because he has no photo right...
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by italo: 2:26pm On Nov 17, 2014
Ukutsgp:
i just came here to debunk the claim that u people compiled the bible and i have done just that. Cos i hate hearing that. The bible had been compiled before your so called roman catholic came into existence. They are all in the post. U can read it up.

I dnt hv to reply u on the other matters. That is for another day. I have other business to attend to.

I dnt have ur time.
Compiled by who? Who told the compiler to compile? When did the Catholic Church come into existence?
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by HARMONIEE: 2:36pm On Nov 17, 2014
craziebone:


i think what a christian and an intellectual would have replied to my post you quoted is that; he would have asked me to show that the bible doesn't teach those things you said it teaches! He wouldn't have resorted to angry and hate words.

Op, if you want to have an intellectually and spiritually inspired discussion, you can ask me for my opinion. I must say again that i am not catholic. I attended their school and have read a lot about them so i know a whole lot about them that some people mistake me for one. There are certain things i do not agree with them on. But i am someone who likes a discussion where everyone can be free to face the possibility of know that what we use to believe is absolutely untrue.
you people amuse me..
My question is simple.
ARE ROMAN CATHOLICS CHRISTIANS?
Simply say yes with prove of their doctrines similarities with that of the apostles
example ;
Yes, because in Harmony chapter 1 vs 2
and Jesus prayed! Holy Mary, mother of God Almighty, pray for all sinners, Now and the hour of their death, AMEN

And in verse 4 apostle Paul yelled, Saint Elijah pray for us!


Or No, because, your reasons
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by HARMONIEE: 2:42pm On Nov 17, 2014
chukwudi44:
resol;ution 24 of the council of carthage in 419CE

Canon 24. (Greek xxvii.)

That nothing be read in church besides the Canonical Scripture

Item, that besides the Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in church under the name of divine Scripture.

But the Canonical Scriptures are as follows:
•Genesis.
•Exodus.
•Leviticus.
•Numbers.
•Deuteronomy.
•Joshua the Son of Nun.
•The Judges.
•Ruth.
•The Kings, iv. books.
•The Chronicles, ij. books.
•Job.
•The Psalter.
•The Five books of Solomon.
•The Twelve Books of the Prophets.
•Isaiah.
•Jeremiah.
•Ezechiel.
•Daniel.
•Tobit.
•Judith.
•Esther.
•Ezra, ij. books.
•Macchabees, ij. books. ◦The New Testament. ■The Gospels, iv. books.
■The Acts of the Apostles, j. book.
■The Epistles of Paul, xiv.
■The Epistles of Peter, the Apostle, ij.
■The Epistles of John the Apostle, iij.
■The Epistles of James the Apostle, j.
■The Epistle of Jude the Apostle, j.
■The Revelation of John, j. book.



Let this be sent to our brother and fellow bishop, Boniface, and to the other bishops of those parts, that they may confirm this canon, for these are the things which we have received from our fathers to be read in church.

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3816.htm
if the Roman Catholic wrote the Bible then they are confused cos what they wrote isn't what they practice, no single scripture to backup MOTHER OF GOD.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by HARMONIEE: 2:42pm On Nov 17, 2014
MrsAwesome:
Meaning Jesus never existed because he has no photo right...
mummy read HEBREWS 11. please
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by vest(m): 3:12pm On Nov 17, 2014
HARMONIEE:
if the Roman Catholic wrote the Bible then they are confused cos what they wrote isn't what they practice, no single scripture to backup MOTHER OF GOD.
Who Is A Mother?
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Nobody: 5:33pm On Nov 17, 2014
vest:
Who Is A Mother?

you de mind the mumu
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Emyben(m): 6:22pm On Nov 17, 2014
HARMONIEE:

You have not answer me yet.
About purgatory,
what the Bible said is far different from what Catholics paint it. Matthew 12:32 simply means the person won't be forgiven here on earth or before God in judgment (unlike joshua the high priest that was) i was once a Roman Catholic faithful sha. So I know what the demonic leaders are using to brainwash and enslave people to sin.

About mother of God,
Mary was the vessel God used in bringing Jesus (God in human form) to the earth so she was right in saying it. Remember i asked you, is Mary God's mother? Search your conscience and answer me openly YES! (GOD our creator, has a mother) or No (he doesn't) don't hide inside the Bible as Satan did when tempting Jesus.

About the eucharistic ;
Did Jesus say, you should be eating his physical body or he meant the memorial body (luke 22:19), do you mean the wafer for the eucharistic is Jesus physical body or you mean it's for remembering Christ?


Please answer me directly don't bend scriptures. Thanks alot.
Everyone contributing God bless you but let's Remember the topic:
ARE ROMAN CATHOLICS CHRISTIANS?
Cos my aim is to know what part of Roman Catholic doctrine was derived from the gospel the apostles preached.


Two more questions please:
1)Is Mary the Queen of heaven?
2)why do Roman Catholics use statutes and images.





I am enjoying the discussion thanks all. Let's make our aims and beliefs plain smiley

You aint here to learn like u wana make us believe.You are primarily here to criticize, condemn and judge and that makes you and this thread a flesh and piece of trash. I dont know why some Catholics here are replying you and your garbage. italo....stop ya responses. This dude is not here to learn.

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Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Emyben(m): 6:40pm On Nov 17, 2014
HARMONIEE:

You have not answer me yet.
About purgatory,
what the Bible said is far different from what Catholics paint it. Matthew 12:32 simply means the person won't be forgiven here on earth or before God in judgment (unlike joshua the high priest that was) i was once a Roman Catholic faithful sha. So I know what the demonic leaders are using to brainwash and enslave people to sin.

About mother of God,
Mary was the vessel God used in bringing Jesus (God in human form) to the earth so she was right in saying it. Remember i asked you, is Mary God's mother? Search your conscience and answer me openly YES! (GOD our creator, has a mother) or No (he doesn't) don't hide inside the Bible as Satan did when tempting Jesus.

About the eucharistic ;
Did Jesus say, you should be eating his physical body or he meant the memorial body (luke 22:19), do you mean the wafer for the eucharistic is Jesus physical body or you mean it's for remembering Christ?


Please answer me directly don't bend scriptures. Thanks alot.
Everyone contributing God bless you but let's Remember the topic:
ARE ROMAN CATHOLICS CHRISTIANS?
Cos my aim is to know what part of Roman Catholic doctrine was derived from the gospel the apostles preached.


Two more questions please:
1)Is Mary the Queen of heaven?
2)why do Roman Catholics use statutes and images.





I am enjoying the discussion thanks all. Let's make our aims and beliefs plain smiley

You aint here to learn like u wana make us believe.You are primarily here to criticize, condemn and judge and that makes you and this thread a flesh and piece of trash. I dont know why some Catholics here are replying you and your garbage. italo....stop ya responses. This dude is not here to learn.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by nnatom: 10:50pm On Nov 17, 2014
Emyben:

You aint here to learn like u wana make us believe.You are primarily here to criticize, condemn and judge and that makes you and this thread a flesh and piece of trash. I dont know why some Catholics here are replying you and your garbage. italo....stop ya responses. This dude is not here to learn.

u are right,that's exactly wht I sensed and I stopped responding. this are Pple dat makes atheist thinks Christianity is rubish and a waste of time.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by nnatom: 10:55pm On Nov 17, 2014
HARMONIEE:
you people amuse me..
My question is simple.
ARE ROMAN CATHOLICS CHRISTIANS?
Simply say yes with prove of their doctrines similarities with that of the apostles
example ;
Yes, because in Harmony chapter 1 vs 2
and Jesus prayed! Holy Mary, mother of God Almighty, pray for all sinners, Now and the hour of their death, AMEN

And in verse 4 apostle Paul yelled, Saint Elijah pray for us!


Or No, because, your reasons


your stupidity has no bound. so what d apostles taught u is to criticize and condem others then u will make heaven abi. mumu.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by jamesjohn2010: 12:10am On Nov 18, 2014
you cannot come to God except He draws you. Reasoning and human logics are not it. no matter how educated you are in the world, you cannot know the bible unless by revelation from God. flesh and blood cannot tell u. it is only the lamb that is worthy to open the seal. the bible is the Revelation of Jesus. the old Catholic that came on were the good one until the first seal was opened and a man sitting on White horse given crown but has no bow came on. the old Catholic were Pentecostals ( peter, James, John, Paul ... were). about 300hundred years later(Nicene era) another set came on to blend Christianity and existing roman idolatry. even many denominations that sprang thereafter are not much different either. but rest assured God has children in every denomination. the doctrines of denominations won't get us any where but the engrafted word with revelation will. but God has men: Paul, Ireneus, Luther, Columbus, Martin, Wesley and Branham to counter the moves.
I will shock u. most of our churches doesn't know God be it Pentecostal, Catholic, Presbyterian, Baptist , Methodist.... I will say more if moved
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by jamesjohn2010: 12:19am On Nov 18, 2014
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Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by San2ski(m): 1:17am On Nov 18, 2014
jamesjohn2010:
you cannot come to God except He draws you. Reasoning and human logics are not it. no matter how educated you are in the world, you cannot know the bible unless by revelation from God. flesh and blood cannot tell u. it is only the lamb that is worthy to open the seal. the bible is the Revelation of Jesus. the old Catholic that came on were the good one until the first seal was opened and a man sitting on White horse given crown but has no bow came on. the old Catholic were Pentecostals ( peter, James, John, Paul ... were). about 300hundred years later(Nicene era) another set came on to blend Christianity and existing roman idolatry. even many denominations that sprang thereafter are not much different either. but rest assured God has children in every denomination. the doctrines of denominations won't get us any where but the engrafted word with revelation will. but God has men: Paul, Ireneus, Luther, Columbus, Martin, Wesley and Branham to counter the moves.
I will shock u. most of our churches doesn't know God be it Pentecostal, Catholic, Presbyterian, Baptist , Methodist.... I will say more if moved


Which Columbus abeg. The one who "discovered" America or....
No fex o.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by jamesjohn2010: 7:35am On Nov 18, 2014
pray carefully if possible fast so that the revealer will help u understand or you will be more confused.

There are seven Church ages in revelation book and each age has an angel

church age. angel
Ephesus. st Paul (Jew , Easterner) 53-170AD
Smyrna. Ireneus
Pergamos. st martin
Thyatira. Columba ( Irish Abbot) 606-1520AD
Sardis Martin Luther
Philadelphia. John Wesley
Laodicean. Branham (westerner) 1906-date

now, as the light/sun Shineth from the east to west , so shall the coming of the son of man be. no man can comes to me except the father draws him
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by An2elect2(f): 3:16pm On Nov 18, 2014
HARMONIEE:
I need to understand something

And save my relatives!
ARE ROMAN CATHOLICS CHRISTIANS?
REMEMBER THE MEANING OF CHRISTIAN (LIKE
CHRIST)
DOES GOD HAVE A MOTHER?
WAS MARY WITHOUT SIN?
please Friends teach me something I don't know. I need your opinions please

No, they are not.
God has no mother.
Mary was with sin.
Its not my opinion, it is scriptural.

Hope u are saved!?
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by MrsAwesome: 5:15am On Nov 19, 2014
An2elect2:


No, they are not.
God has no mother.
Mary was with sin.
Its not my opinion, it is scriptural.

Hope u are saved!?
Imagine...
What point was God trying to make ...prove by letting his begotten saviour born...come from someone with sin..? I mean it doesn't make sense anymore then. Clean supposed to come from clean......
Atheists will be rejoicing with these confusionism in Christendom....
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by nnatom: 5:52am On Nov 19, 2014
MrsAwesome:
Imagine...
What point was God trying to make ...prove by letting his begotten saviour born...come from someone with sin..? I mean it doesn't make sense anymore then. Clean supposed to come from clean......
Atheists will be rejoicing with these confusionism in Christendom....


some Pple can be very funny u knw,thinking that God will let his only begotten son to come from an unclean woman.even we humans can't allow such for our belove children if we can.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by nnatom: 5:55am On Nov 19, 2014
An2elect2:


No, they are not.
God has no mother.
Mary was with sin.
Its not my opinion, it is scriptural.

Hope u are saved!?

@ Harmoniee, I hope this is wht u want to hear,now tell us if u are save now.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by paxonel(m): 6:28am On Nov 19, 2014
Pavore9:
Na today?...I wonder how people go about as if their salvation is dependent on Catholics renouncing their faith, abeg make una dey go una "heaven" make we see road. PRAISE BE TO JESUS, HONOUR TO MARY!

I think, PRAISE BE TO JESUS is like saying, we worship Jesus.
And HONOR TO MARY is like saying, we honor Mary?
if this is true, we know that WORSHIP and HONOR are not the same thing.
then, why are we fighting Catholics?
can't we see that they worship Jesus as much as we do? which is the most important thing

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Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by johnydon22(m): 6:50am On Nov 19, 2014
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Annaka(f): 11:31am On Nov 21, 2014
[quote
author=Ukutsgp post=28079629] u people are the one claiming that you
compiled it. Why dnt u now tell me when u people compiled it or shut why r u givin ursef high bp?no one is forcing u 2 bcom a catholic,face ur mode of worship lets face ours
up. [/quote]
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Ukutsgp(m): 1:29pm On Nov 21, 2014
[quote author=Annaka post=28215886][/quote] ok. I go leave una to una self. Na una sabi.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by obyno10ten: 11:09am On Nov 22, 2014
HARMONIEE:
I need to understand something

And save my relatives!
ARE ROMAN CATHOLICS CHRISTIANS?
REMEMBER THE MEANING OF CHRISTIAN (LIKE
CHRIST)
DOES GOD HAVE A MOTHER?
WAS MARY WITHOUT SIN?
please Friends teach me something I don't know. I need your opinions please

Hi everyone! From what I have seen so far, u are not confused or learning. but u and the likes of ukutsg can answer these questions with suitable back up......

I will like u to explicitly explain your stand in the last two questions and proudly mention your religious denomination or belief

My own personal question is was bible compiled before the term "christian". And was it in mind or used as a criteria before using the term "christian" for the very first time
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by brainoid(m): 9:56pm On Nov 25, 2014
Harmony is no available seems he got a ban or something , but basically he says he got what he is wants.. He isn't creating confusion, he is separating the sheep from the qoats, roman Catholics are not Christian, read these two books, rescued from hell and testimony of an ex satanist by pastor jonas, he will mail them to you just mail him about it.. And am not sure when Harmony is coming back,, also Mary was born with sin don't confuse yourself read Luke 2:22-24 don't defend the Vatican and her evil doctrine, roman Catholicism is pure evil, that's the little i could say, if you need to contact harmony mail him = iamharmonie@gmailcom


Thanks.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by nnatom: 4:47pm On Nov 26, 2014
brainoid:
Harmony is no available seems he got a ban or something , but basically he says he got what he is wants.. He isn't creating confusion, he is separating the sheep from the qoats, roman Catholics are not Christian, read these two books, rescued from hell and testimony of an ex satanist by pastor jonas, he will mail them to you just mail him about it.. And am not sure when Harmony is coming back,, also Mary was born with sin don't confuse yourself read Luke 2:22-24 don't defend the Vatican and her evil doctrine, roman Catholicism is pure evil, that's the little i could say, if you need to contact harmony mail him = iamharmonie@gmailcom


Thanks.


u see ur life.propagating lies every where. now read this below and tell me how Mary was born with sin.

Women contract tumah (ritual
contamination) through childbirth. The time
period of the woman’s purification after
childbirth differs and is based on the sex of
the child as explained in Leviticus 12:1-8:
“Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2
“Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘If a
woman has conceived, and borne a male
child, then she shall be unclean seven days;
as in the days of her customary impurity she
shall be unclean. 3 And on the eighth day the
flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. 4
She shall then continue in the blood of her
purification thirty-three days. She shall not
touch any hallowed thing, nor come into the
sanctuary until the days of her purification
are fulfilled. 5 ‘But if she bears a female
child, then she shall be unclean two weeks,
as in her customary impurity, and she shall
continue in the blood of her purification
sixty-six days. 6 ‘When the days of her
purification are fulfilled, whether for a son or
a daughter, she shall bring to the priest a
lamb of the first year as a burnt offering, and
a young pigeon or a turtledove as a sin
offering, to the door of the tabernacle of
meeting. 7 Then he shall offer it before the
Lord, and make atonement for her. And she
shall be clean from the flow of her blood.
This is the law for her who has borne a male
or a female. 8 ‘And if she is not able to bring
a lamb, then she may bring two turtledoves
or two young pigeons — one as a burnt
offering and the other as a sin offering. So
the priest shall make atonement for her, and
she will be clean.

Mary obeyed this command after Jesus was
born in Luke 2:21-25: “And when eight days
were completed for the circumcision of the
Child, His name was called Jesus, the name
given by the angel before He was conceived
in the womb. Now when the days of her
purification according to the law of Moses
were completed, they brought Him to
Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord (as it is
written in the law of the Lord, “Every male
who opens the womb shall be called holy to
the Lord”), and to offer a sacrifice according
to what is said in the law of the Lord, “A pair
of turtledoves or two young pigeons.”“

pls tell me if this law is still practiced today by Christians.

pls stop twisting the bible to suit ur deceitful ideas. braidoid ur brain needs oil cos it making a knocking sound.

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