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Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by esoboy875(m): 7:27am On Nov 21, 2014
chisco82:

Bros we are talking about a principal position here "The Speaker of the House"
Is just like moving to a new appartment with nothing and when you want to relocate you now want to go with properties that was there, you were giving a job with an official car and resign your appointment, will you go with that official car?
The position of the speaker belong to PDP as a party not to Tambwal as an individual.
If ApC meant well for Nigeria they should advice him to resign.
All these shows that there will be no change even if APC wins the presidential election.
They are just showing Nigerians what to expect from them if they take over power.
Im not supporting any party, I'm an advocate of good governance.
My broda, if u recall vividly, u wil rememba dat it was nt only PDP members dat did d election in NA dat makes Tambuwal d speaker nd mor self, PDP neva wanted him to b speaker @ d 1st place. It was d oppositions dat gave dere votes for him. So dey should jst leav him nd do d work dey were voted to do.
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:28am On Nov 21, 2014
Pesuzok:
People should quote the constitution as it states in full

68 (1) ) A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall vacate his seat in the House of which he is a member if

(g) being a person whose election to the House was sponsored by a political party, he becomes a member of another political party before the expiration of the period for which that House was elected;

Provided that his membership of the latter political party is not as a result of a division in the political party of which he was previously a member or of a merger of two or more political parties or factions by one of which he was previously sponsored;



Tambuwal claims there is a division in sokoto PDP, why not find out if its true or false by letting the courts decide

PDP has a court injunction stating that there is no division in PDP!
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Pesuzok(m): 7:29am On Nov 21, 2014
thunder74:

He is part of this defection problem. If he had declared the seats of the honorable members that earlier defected vacant as enshrined in the constitution, he would have saved Nigeria this shameful acts. But he refused to do the needful because he was selfishly preparing ground for his defection.

68. (1) A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall vacate his seat in
the House of which he is a member if -
g) being a person whose election to the House was sponsored by a political party, he
becomes a member of another political party before the expiration of the period for which
that House was elected;


It is only in this country we hide under the rules of law or ask the court to interpret an act we know is constitutionally wrong but because our justice system is wrong and slow, we expect an aggrieved party to go to court that will never end. The constitution says resign, when you decamped, what part of the section is not clear that needs court's interpretation.

Secondly, though the police was wrong to have blocked the gate but the honourable members do not have any rights to take laws into their hands by pushing the police away, became unruly, jumped gates etc. These can only be done by rogues. I was ashamed to see our reps descend so low. Just imagine what could have happened if it were campus students that pushed away the police screening point, scaled fence, became unruly, you would have condemned them and police would have shot some of them for aggravated aggression.

We should all support decency and our democracy to grow.

please quote the constitution complete

Provided that his membership of the latter political party is not as a result of a division in the political party of which he was previously a member or of a merger of two or more political parties or factions by one of which he was previously sponsored
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by BetaThings: 7:30am On Nov 21, 2014
2tek:
The constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria is clear. It stated that Tambuwal MUST GO.
68. (1) A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall vacate his seat in
the House of which he is a member if -
(a) he becomes a member of another legislative house.
(b) any other circumstances arise that, if he were not a member of the Senate or the House
of Representatives, would cause him to be disqualified for election as a member;
(c) he ceases to be a citizen of Nigeria;
(d) he becomes President, Vice-President, Governor, Deputy Governor or a Minister of the
Government of the Federation or a Commissioner of the Government of a State or a Special
Adviser.
(e) save as otherwise prescribed by this Constitution, he becomes a member of a
commission or other body established by this Constitution or by any other law.
(f) without just cause he is absent from meetings of the House of which he is a member for
a period amounting in the aggregate to more than one-third of the total number of days
during which the House meets in any one year;
(g) being a person whose election to the House was sponsored by a political party, he
becomes a member of another political party before the expiration of the period for which
that House was elected;
Provided that his membership of the latter political party is not as a result of a division in
the political party of which he was previously a member or of a merger of two or more
political parties or factions by one of which he was previously sponsored.
Great
Did you ask Obanikoro to go when he went to PDP
And the Labour party legislators in Ondo State
Have you asked them to go?
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by drnoel: 7:30am On Nov 21, 2014
berem:
Tambuwal has suddenly become the problem of Nigeria where Jonathan can flex his muscle,whereas Tompolo a lawless citizen is terrorizing innocent journalists and threatening Nigerians in Delta state and Jonathan is turning a blind eye on the situation?

Time to kick out the Otuoke man from Aso Rock in 2015!!

Rather a sad comment 4rm one who should know better. What is tompolo compared to Tumbuwal? Can u compare the office of the speaker nigerians 4th citizen to tompolo (a riff raff).
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Pesuzok(m): 7:31am On Nov 21, 2014
mikeansy:


PDP has a court injunction stating that there is no division in PDP!

When was the court injunction and when did tambuwal defect?
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by bayulll01(m): 7:31am On Nov 21, 2014
berem:
The extent at which people lie just to score points is really shocking. I am waiting for him to prove his points with facts.
u even have time,me i don't answer foolls
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:31am On Nov 21, 2014
esoboy875:

My broda, if u recall vividly, u wil rememba dat it was nt only PDP members dat did d election in NA dat makes Tambuwal d speaker nd mor self, PDP neva wanted him to b speaker @ d 1st place. It was d oppositions dat gave dere votes for him. So dey should jst leav him nd do d work dey were voted to do.
I agree with ur point but that position belong to the party not him as an individual.
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by BetaThings: 7:33am On Nov 21, 2014
thunder74:

Secondly, though the police was wrong to have blocked the gate but the honourable members do not have any rights to take laws into their hands by pushing the police away, became unruly, jumped gates etc. These can only be done by rogues. I was ashamed to see our reps descend so low. Just imagine what could have happened if it were campus students that pushed away the police screening point, scaled fence, became unruly, you would have condemned them and police would have shot some of them for aggravated aggression.

We should all support decency and our democracy to grow.

The police locked them out so that they would not be there to vote against the planned impeachment of Tambuwal
Did 7 people not impeach speaker in Ekiti?
PDP wanted a double whammy!
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Pesuzok(m): 7:34am On Nov 21, 2014
And no body is taking about Ekiti state, where the constitution was rubbished and a sitting governor is accepting the rubbish.

92. (1) There shall be a Speaker and a Deputy Speaker of a House of Assembly who shall be elected by the members of the House from among themselves.

(2) The Speaker or Deputy Speaker of the House of Assembly shall vacate his office -

(a) if he ceases to be a member of the House of Assembly otherwise than by reason of the dissolution of the House;

(b) When the House first sits after any dissolution of House; or

(c) if he is removed from office by a resolution of House of Assembly by the votes of not less than two-third majority of the members of the House.


A repetition of what happened in rivers state, only that Amaechi refused that rubbish.

PDP should please save nigeria,

Tomorrow we will all cry that USA has destroyed Nigeria because they said it
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:35am On Nov 21, 2014
drnoel:


Rather a sad comment 4rm one who should know better. What is tompolo compared to Tumbuwal? Can u compare the office of the speaker nigerians 4th citizen to tompolo (a riff raff).
you call someone who threatens your president a riff raff? A militant who moves around with armed military men,something our 4th citizen has been deprived of?
I don't care about their status as long as both of them are Nigerians.
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:35am On Nov 21, 2014
BetaThings:


Do you want to argue using the constitution or the bye law of NURTW?
In respect to defection
The constitution DOES NOT mention principal officer

When Obanikoro defected to PDP, he was affected, but PDP did not see it fit to ask him to resign

In respect to being speaker
The constitution DOES NOT mention party




If Jonathan means well, he would have allowed the House of Reps to sit on the extension of the state of emergency!
The state if emergency has now expired, has it not?
Is removing Tambuwal more important that addressing security issue!


Your analysis is biased, you are castigating APC and you are telling us you are not biased
Even children in KG1 know that if meat is not shared properly, there is bias

When you declare a position that is contrary to the constitution, then you are biased

1999 Constituion, as amended
50. (1) There shall be
My brother like i said I'm not supporting any party, yes my arguement favoured PDP base on the situation at hand.
But mind you if things should done honourably by Tambwal, that will give APC upper hand and earn more respect for them.
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:38am On Nov 21, 2014
What! A Senior Advocate of Nigeria making prejudicial statements on a matter sub judice!! We have, indeed, come to an all time low!!!
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:40am On Nov 21, 2014
Pesuzok:


When was the court injunction and when did tambuwal defect?

The injunction was granted PDP after the manufactured division called nPDP was formed.

Hence the injunction was long in place before Tambuwal defected.

But more seriously if we are a serious country we won't even be entertaining this debate!

if Tambuwal was clear on his conviction that he wants APC, the correct thing should have been to resign months ago, force a bye-election and get his sokoto people to re-elect him as APC legislator.

At this moment Tambuwal is attempting to swap his peoples mandate from PDP to APC while flouting the constitution and without recourse to his own constituency who elected him under PDP.

A dangerous precedent is being set here and this can't just be allowed to stand!

Enough is enough!

This simply means that in future Nigerians can vote a majority moderate party to NASS and members of this majority party can vote one of their own as leader but by defection we can end up with a fundamentalist leadership in the house!

Very dangerous precedent is being set here by Tambuwal!!
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by BetaThings: 7:40am On Nov 21, 2014
maestroferddi:
I believe that a little understanding of legal processes would aid your case.

This is no connexion between a putative infraction in Ondo State with a flagrant malfeasance by the leader of the lower chamber of the legislature.

That a party elected to forgo the pursuit of a remedy for a suffered injury should not preclude another party from exercising their inalienable right.
Which party?
Is the Police a party?
Was it not the IG that removed Tambuwal's security details
Was it based on a court order? No
So why did the Police not proactively remove the security details of the guys in Ondo state
Unless you say the police is a party in these matters

maestroferddi:
The court does not manufacture cases.
The Police now manufacture issues to intervene in?

maestroferddi:
This is no connexion between a putative infraction in Ondo State with a flagrant malfeasance by the leader of the lower chamber of the legislature.
Please distinguish with examples drawn from the cases (Ondo State and House of Reps) between a putative infraction and flagrant malfeasance
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Pesuzok(m): 7:40am On Nov 21, 2014
chisco82:

I agree with ur point but that position belong to the party not him as an individual.

Did the constitution say that the post belongs to a party, please educate me

50. (1) There shall be:-

(a) a President and a Deputy President of the Senate, who shall be elected by the members of that House from among themselves; and

(b) a Speaker and a Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, who shall be elected by the members of that House from among themselves.

(2) The President or Deputy President of the Senate or the Speaker or Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives shall vacate his office -

(a) if he ceases to be a member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives, as the case may be, otherwise than by reason of a dissolution of the Senate or the House of Representatives; or

(b) when the House of which he was a member first sits after any dissolution of that House; or

(c) if he is removed from office by a resolution of the Senate or of the House of Representatives, as the case may be, by the votes of not less than two-thirds majority of the members of that House.

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Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by esoboy875(m): 7:40am On Nov 21, 2014
chisco82:

I agree with ur point but that position belong to the party not him as an individual.
Boss sir, dere is no particular party dat is tie to b speaker, it is who d honourable membas vote in dat automatically bcom d speaker. So sir, I tink dey should jst walk together nd rememba dat nigeria as a nation is for all.

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Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by BetaThings: 7:42am On Nov 21, 2014
maestroferddi:
Would it interest you to know that a respected legal voice in the person of Olisa Agbakoba holds a similar perspective with Ezekhome:that Tambuwal should no longer have business being Speaker of the House since he has run afoul of the constitution?
Sorry
Agbakoba said he was not speaking the law
I challenge you to quote Agbakoba in full
Please can we stick to the truth and the whole truth?
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Pesuzok(m): 7:44am On Nov 21, 2014
mikeansy:


The injunction was granted PDP after the manufacture division called nPDP was formed.

Hence the injunction was long in place before Tambuwal defected.

But more seriously if we are a serious country we won't even be entertaining this debate!

if Tambuwal was clear on his conviction that he wants APC, the correct thing should have been to resign months ago, force a bye-election and get his sokoto people to re-elect him as APC legislator.

At this moment Tambuwal is attempting to swap his peoples mandate from PDP to APC while flouting the constitution and without recourse to his own constituency who elected him under PDP.

A dangerous precedent is being set here and this can't just be allowed to stand!

Enough is enough!

This simply means that in future Nigerians can vote a majority moderate party to NASS and members of this majority party can vote one of their own as leader but by defection we can end up with a fundamentalist leadership in the house!

Very dangerous precedent is being set here by Tambuwal!!

calm down on this long epistle and what you think. Lets follow the constitution.

Assuming there is a division in sokoto PDP based on tambuwal reason, will he vacate his seat or not?

(g) being a person whose election to the House was sponsored by a political party, he becomes a member of another political party before the expiration of the period for which that House was elected;

Provided that his membership of the latter political party is not as a result of a division in the political party of which he was previously a member or of a merger of two or more political parties or factions by one of which he was previously sponsored


so PDP should get a fresh induction to show that there is really no division in PDP before asking for tambuwal to vacate, not bring forward an old injuction
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by drnoel: 7:45am On Nov 21, 2014
berem:
you call someone who threatens your president a riff raff? A militant who moves around with armed military men,something our 4th citizen has been deprived of?
I don't care about their status as long as both of them are Nigerians.

U and i know that in nigeria. U can buy police escorts for as cheap as 50 K so what are u talking about? Besides did GEJ tell u he is the one worrying Tumbuwal? Or did he tell u he cares what tompolo says. U guys underestimate that man. Just watch an see as the movie unfolds.
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Demdem(m): 7:45am On Nov 21, 2014
ikweremilitant:
so any one that didnt concour with u apc e-swines are nw stupid, abi?

Fool, so in ur daft state the so useless San made sense eh?
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by maestroferddi: 7:46am On Nov 21, 2014
BetaThings:

Sorry
Agbakoba said he was not speaking the law
I challenge you to quote Agbakoba in full
Please can we stick to the truth and the whole truth?
Mr Man, you tell me why it should be fault why you have chosen to remain ignorant of a piece of information that has been on the public space for weeks now...
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by ABDamola(m): 7:46am On Nov 21, 2014
JONATHAN too shud resign NOW! Security in Nigeria is nothin to write home about! Tel him 2 resign too!
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:47am On Nov 21, 2014
What is also obvious here is the whole conniving formation of nPDP is just so that APC and their gang can circumvent section 68 of the constitution.

It's amazing how far this so called progressives can go just to circumvent the constitution and prevent needing to go back to the people to vote in a bye-election.

It is really scary for Nigerian democracy if these conniving rascals come anywhere near power!
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by successking: 7:47am On Nov 21, 2014
berem:
Tambuwal has suddenly become the problem of Nigeria where Jonathan can flex his muscle,whereas Tompolo a lawless citizen is terrorizing innocent journalists and threatening Nigerians in Delta state and Jonathan is turning a blind eye on the situation?

Time to kick out the Otuoke man from Aso Rock in 2015!!

You lack reasoning abilities, so restrict your comments to the areas where you can make logical reasoning.
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by OrlandoOwoh(m): 7:47am On Nov 21, 2014
Ever since Mike Ozekhome started defending the likes of Farouk Lawan, I've not been surprised at his comments.
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by joseph1832(m): 7:48am On Nov 21, 2014
mikeansy:


Well the Nigerian constitution is a public document available online. I have no interest to spoon feed you. Go read section 68 for yourself.

Look at who's talking! It shows you no not what you speak! The likes of you come on social media and spread misinformation, lies and deceit!.

And I am well aware the Nigerian constitution is a public document, I happen to own one. Let me show you what section 68 says...

Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:49am On Nov 21, 2014
drnoel:


U and i know that in nigeria. U can buy police escorts for as cheap as 50 K so what are u talking about? Besides did GEJ tell u he is the one worrying Tumbuwal? Or did he tell u he cares what tompolo says. U guys underestimate that man. Just watch an see as the movie unfolds.
he does not care what Tompolo says yet he got scared of a threat issued by the militant?
Tell me something!
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:49am On Nov 21, 2014
Pesuzok:


calm down on this long epistle and what you think. Lets follow the constitution.

Assuming there is a division in sokoto PDP based on tambuwal reason, will he vacate his seat or not?

(g) being a person whose election to the House was sponsored by a political party, he becomes a member of another political party before the expiration of the period for which that House was elected;

Provided that his membership of the latter political party is not as a result of a division in the political party of which he was previously a member or of a merger of two or more political parties or factions by one of which he was previously sponsored


so PDP should get a fresh induction to show that there is really no division in PDP before asking for tambuwal to vacate, not bring forward an old injuction

The courts have said there is no division in PDP!

Why did Tambuwal not approach a higher court to set aside that injunction by proving that yes there is division in sokoto PDP?
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by BetaThings: 7:50am On Nov 21, 2014
mikeansy:


Ok Tompolo and Tambuwal in the same class now?

I see now that you people set the bar very low for ur representatives!

Sister we are talking about the integrity and sanctity of the second arm of Government here!
So how come Jonathan takes instructions from Tompolo
But he (Jonathan) mocks resolutions of the house of reps?
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by beengils: 7:51am On Nov 21, 2014
mikeansy:


My sister, political allegiances aside, a very dangerous precedent is being set here if Tambuwal does not step down.

Lawlessness is part of the problem and what Tambuwal is trying to do here is simply lawless.

His actions are bringing the second arm of government to disrepute!
My guy ur points are highly incoherent, is partisan politics an issue Nigeria should be vesting unnecessary energies on or the state of lawlessness, insecurity n mother of all "corruption" that is ravaging and tearing our country apart... I wonder where you TANoids get the balls to argue very myopically!
Re: For Peace To Reign In NASS, Tambuwal Should Resign - SAN by Nobody: 7:52am On Nov 21, 2014
Pesuzok:


Did the constitution say that the post belongs to a party, please educate me

50. (1) There shall be:-

(a) a President and a Deputy President of the Senate, who shall be elected by the members of that House from among themselves; and

(b) a Speaker and a Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, who shall be elected by the members of that House from among themselves.

(2) The President or Deputy President of the Senate or the Speaker or Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives shall vacate his office -

(a) if he ceases to be a member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives, as the case may be, otherwise than by reason of a dissolution of the Senate or the House of Representatives; or

(b) when the House of which he was a member first sits after any dissolution of that House; or

(c) if he is removed from office by a resolution of the Senate or of the House of Representatives, as the case may be, by the votes of not less than two-thirds majority of the members of that House.
I mean the platfoam at which he was elected the speaker, logically the party won the position not him as an individual sir. We all knew that lets put sentiment apart.

esoboy875:

Boss sir, dere is no particular party dat is tie to b speaker, it is who d honourable membas vote in dat automatically bcom d speaker. So sir, I tink dey should jst walk together nd rememba dat nigeria as a nation is for all.

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