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honourhim:
I am a believer in God.

And that makes you different from the rest of us?

honourhim:
Who do you think is a christian? You think christianity is something one becomes by just claiming it anyhow?

How do you.know that they are not real christians? Many of them are here and you can see them disagreeing over many doctrinal issues.

dalaman:
If spirituality is true as you claim then why do christians always disagree. Very sincere christians disagree over doctrines and many other things. For example, there are christians that believe that the world was created just about seven thousand years ago, while some other christians believe that the earth has been in existence for billions of years. Please can you use your spiritual knowledge to settle this problem that exist even among christians who believe in this spiritual talk of yours once and for all?

You atheist never cease to amze me when you spew out thrash, even atheist have diverse beliefs.
Some atheist believe in the theory of Evolution, while some dont. Some atheist believe in the Big bang, some dont. You can't use your own persperctive 'bout things as a benchmark to Judge others, your own view 'bout things is peculiar to just your person. The same anchors the fact that you cant use the belief systems of some christains to Judge others.
Same follows for every other perception of things that are to come: you guys are always so quick to dismiss any account originatin' from a religious perspective, forgettin' that those accounts are evidence on their own. The funny thin' is you athiest discard these theories without an already substantiated proof.

davien:
And that makes you different from the rest of us?

Definately "A" and "a" are not the same, the same way "God" and "god" are not the same.
Just like in programmin', the variable "x" (lowercase) and the variable "X" (uppercase) are different pockets for holdin' values.
So yes that makes him different from the rest of you guys. You're an athesit anywayz, you don't believe in God do you, why should you care?

honourhim:
Rather you can walk away since you lack any meaningful contribution. Nobody forced you to comment rather you did on your own and sought for my response even while I wasn't showing interest in your submission. Thanks.

Tsk Tsk. If you want to kick butt, you'd have to try harder than this.
Anyways, I hope you've been educated. So long.

davien:
And that makes you different from the rest of us?

The rest of you? How do you mean? Aint you an atheist?

BossTtdiamonds:
Definately "A" and "a" are not the same, the same way "God" and "god" are not the same.
Just like in programmin', the variable "x" (lowercase) and the variable "X" (uppercase) are different pockets for holdin' values.
So yes that makes him different from the rest of you guys. You're an athesit anywayz, you don't believe in God do you, why should you care?

I care because I believe in you...
Any action you take....you take based on the internal model you've created in your mind.
And when your mind is filled with intolerance and absurdities....you begin to portray that..

dalaman:
How do you.know that they are not real christians? Many of them are here and you can see them disagreeing over many doctrinal issues.

You have not answered my kweshion.

davien:
I care because I believe in you...
Any action you take....you take based on the internal model you've created in your mind.
And when your mind is filled with intolerance and absurdities....you begin to portray that..

If you believe in me, you should believe that any action I take, I take based on facts that have been substantiated/proven to be true by my person.
So davien, do you truly believe in me, or tis' is just one of the quips you make so there's somethin' to laugh at?
So have I portrayed intolerance and absurdity, and on what grounds do you justify such actions to be intolerant and absurd??

BossTtdiamonds:
You atheist never cease to amze me when you spew out thrash, even atheist have diverse beliefs.
Some atheist believe in the theory of Evolution, while some dont. Some atheist believe in the Big bang, some dont. You can't use your own persperctive 'bout things as a benchmark to Judge others, your own view 'bout things is peculiar to just your person. The same anchors the fact that you cant use the belief systems of some christains to Judge others.
Same follows for every other perception of things that are to come: you guys are always so quick to dismiss any account originatin' from a religious perspective, forgettin' that those accounts are evidence on their own. The funny thin' is you athiest discard these theories without an already substantiated proof.

Atheist do not lay claim to anything divine. Christians lay claim to the holy spirit which they say is prt of their God head as their source of guidance when they talk about doctrinal issues. The catholic church lays claims to this holy spirit but they practice a very different form of christianity from the protestants. The protestant churches with all their very different sects also lay claim to this divine holy spirit but they are always disagree with each other and practice different type of christianity from each other. An atheist will clearly tell you his opinion, a christian will tell you that it is the holy spirit guiding him, yet they are always disagreeing over basic issues.Read the topics here, watch them all lay claim to the holy spirit while disagreeing and condemning each other, many tell each other that they are blinded by Satan, others condemned their fellow christians to hell over doctrinal issue, and the thing is they all lay claim to the holy spirit. The reality is that there is no holy spirit guiding them, they are just giving their personal opinions, that is why they are always having endless disagreements.

honourhim:
You have not answered my kweshion.

Who is a christian? Are you one?

BossTtdiamonds:
If you believe in me, you should believe that any action I take, I take based on facts that have been substantiated/proven to be true by my person.
So davien, do you truly believe in me, or tis' is just one of the quips you make so there's somethin' to laugh at?
So have I portrayed intolerance and absurdity, and on what grounds do you justify such actions to be intolerant and absurd??

Are you not offended by those who don't believe in "god"? and do you view them as immoral?

dalaman:
Who is a christian? Are you one?

You were the one that started telling me about good christians and their diversity of teachings. Now I asked you to tell me what you understand by christian or even good christians and you are asking me.

You don't just make bogus claim. You should define your claim pls.

davien:
Are you not offended by those who don't believe in "god"? and do you view them as immoral?

I definately cannot be offended by those who don't believe in god.. So far they believe in God...
#NoteTheDifference...
Those who believe in God are guided by the morals God has placed on us. Nevertheless the issue of morality is a different study on it's own..as there are individuals who believe in God but still act immoral anyways...tis' on its own is because of the Choice attribute God gave us i.e. The ability to choose btw Good and Evil..
Hope I answered your question.. Now anwer mine..

dalaman:
Atheist do not lay claim to anything divine. Christians lay claim to the holy spirit which they say is prt of their God head as their source of guidance when they talk about doctrinal issues. The catholic church lays claims to this holy spirit but they practice a very different form of christianity from the protestants. The protestant churches with all their very different sects also lay claim to this divine holy spirit but they are always disagree with each other and practice different type of christianity from each other. An atheist will clearly tell you his opinion, a christian will tell you that it is the holy spirit guiding him, yet they are always disagreeing over basic issues.Read the topics here, watch them all lay claim to the holy spirit while disagreeing and condemning each other, many tell each other that they are blinded by Satan, others condemned their fellow christians to hell over doctrinal issue, and the thing is they all lay claim to the holy spirit. The reality is that there is no holy spirit guiding them, they are just giving their personal opinions, that is why they are always having endless disagreements.

Stop beatin' 'bout the bush.. The argument here is what's the yardstick for your generalization..??
Exactly how do you know there's no holyspirit guidin' them..what is the premise of your argument..surely you can't tell me you just feel there's no holyspirit.. Cuz that would flaw the very essence of you livin'..
Dont' atheist argue out assertions e.g some believe in abiogenesis, some don't.. Some believe in the big bang, some dont... They all backup their claims with different theories...
If you look at it from a broader perspective..you guys are just as confused as you claim we are...

BossTtdiamonds:
I definately cannot be offended by those who don't believe in god.. So far they believe in God...
#NoteTheDifference...
Those who believe in God are guided by the morals God has placed on us. Nevertheless the issue of morality is a different study on it's own..as there are individuals who believe in God but still act immoral anyways...tis' on its own is because of the Choice attribute God gave us i.e. The ability to choose btw Good and Evil..
Hope I answered your question.. Now anwer mine..

If you cannot understand that an atheist does not believe in "god",then this conversation is over....
I can't keep running around in circles explaining atheism to you.

BossTtdiamonds:
If you believe in me, you should believe that any action I take, I take based on facts that have been substantiated/proven to be true by my person.
So davien, do you truly believe in me, or tis' is just one of the quips you make so there's somethin' to laugh at?
So have I portrayed intolerance and absurdity, and on what grounds do you justify such actions to be intolerant and absurd??

Are you not obligated to uphold the biblical laws which include the scrutiny of homosexuals...the view of women as "under a man" and other intolerant views?
And the view I have of you is not that you have any factual knowledge of "god"(otherwise you'd present it)....it is a view of pity.
Pity because for someone to believe a man could walk on water without being the tiniest bit skeptical,is very shocking.

davien:
Pity because for someone to believe a man could walk on water without being the tiniest bit skeptical,is very shocking.

Its more shocking for some people to look at this world and everything in it and still claim that there's no creator(God). Quite a pity.

davien:
If you cannot understand that an atheist does not believe in "god",then this conversation is over....
I can't keep running around in circles explaining atheism to you.

You don't beleve in God How did magic come into existence if God doesn't exist?

honourhim:
Its more shocking for some people to look at this world and everything in it and still claim that there's no creator(God). Quite a pity.

True. This people really earn my pity They are called fools for a reason.

Misogynist2014:
You don't beleve in God How did magic come into existence if God doesn't exist?

Don't expect a reasonable answer from them as usual.

Misogynist2014:
You don't beleve in God How did magic come into existence if God doesn't exist?

Which magic are you talking about?

Weah96:
Which magic are you talking about?

The one that grows at your backyard.

Misogynist2014:
The one that grows at your backyard.

Is that where this God of yours is located too? In my backyard?

Weah96:
Is that where this God of yours is located too? In my backyard?

You? Do you have proof that God doesn't exist? I was at a cultural show last week, come see how shango worshippers were swallowing fire without getting hurt! How was that possible? Doesn't this defy science and natural laws? This one can be confirmed by visiting Osun State, so don't tell me I have no proof.

Misogynist2014:
You? Do you have proof that God doesn't exist? I was at a cultural show last week, come see how shango worshippers were swallowing fire without getting hurt! How was that possible? Doesn't this defy science and natural laws? This one can be confirmed by visiting Osun State, so don't tell me I have no proof.

Wiki has a page on fire eating. It requires diligence, pain tolerance, and lots of practice. Not magic.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_eating

Misogynist2014:
You? Do you have proof that God doesn't exist? I was at a cultural show last week, come see how shango worshippers were swallowing fire without getting hurt! How was that possible? Doesn't this defy science and natural laws? This one can be confirmed by visiting Osun State, so don't tell me I have no proof.

Another article on fire eating. There's a school where students go to learn how to eat fire.

[b]Eat Up
Fire eaters don't literally eat fire. They place flames in their mouth and extinguish them. It's like snuffing out a candle with your hand, but more impressive. During their performance, the fire eater has to remember two things: one, fire and hot air move upward, and two, don't inhale.
A fire-eater starts by taking a wide stance to keep her* balance and tilting her head back while holding the torch above.


As she lowers the torch towards her mouth, the fire eater takes a deep breath and begins to exhale slow and steady. This slow exhalation keeps the heat away from the fire eater's face as she moves the torch closer to her face and places it in her mouth. With her tongue stuck out wide and flat, the fire eater places the wick of the torch (which should be cool to the touch—fire eaters often use Kevlar thread for their wicks) onto it and partially closes her lips around the torch in an "O" shape.

So far, so good. Now the fire eater has to extinguish the flame, and quick. There are two ways to do this. The fire eater can completely close her lips all the way around the torch, cutting off oxygen and killing the flame, or she can put the flame out with a quick exhaling breath. The second method is preferable for performances where the torch has been lit for a while and may be too hot to touch with the lips.

That's fire eating in a nutshell (though fire eaters have a number of other tricks in their repertoires, like vapor tricks, multiple torch eats and fancy extinguishes). It seems pretty basic, but to do it right and make it look good for a crowd, fire eaters learn the method and then spend years practicing. If this sounds like the kind of thing you want to make a career or a hobby out of, the Coney Island Sideshow School offers classes in the art of fire eating.[/b]

http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=20672

Weah96:
Wiki has a page on fire eating. It requires diligence, pain tolerance, and lots of practice. Not magic.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_eating

I only gave one example. What about the man who was brought to gbam show sponsored by global, who eats broken bottles and blade. What about Ilan Smith who guessed who won the World Cup, the player who scored, the time he scored, the score line and consequently the team that won the world cup!!! At a time the world was in stand still, this man already knew what everything will end up in! Can science explain this? Don't you know the meaning of what he did?

Misogynist2014:
You? Do you have proof that God doesn't exist?.

Bro ignore people who engage in foolish argument.

Misogynist2014:
I only gave one example. What about the man who was brought to gbam show sponsored by global, who eats broken bottles and blade. What about Ilan Smith who guessed who won the World Cup, the player who scored, the time he scored, the score line and consequently the team that won the world cup!!! At a time the world was in stand still, this man already knew what everything will end up in! Can science explain this? Don't you know the meaning of what he did?

Ilan Smith is an illusionist. You do know what an illusion is, right?

If he was really defying the laws of nature, he wouldn't have written anything down. He would have simply announced the score to the audience to the audience like a man. That's common sense.

The illusion involves the paper, envelope, and pen. I don't even believe TV tricks of that nature, because of all uncertain variables. Do you know if someone was NOT paid after signing a confidentiality agreement?

Predicting the score using one's mouth is magic. Writing the score on a piece of paper and locking it away on TV is an ILLUSION. There was an impressive sleight of hand somewhere during that event.

honourhim:
Bro ignore people who engage in foolish argument.

Abi o. Just wanted to cool off. Imagine weah telling me that a whole Super Sport was lying! We all know they had nothing to loose nor gain. So you mean they should have announced the stuff? Incredible! Lame arguments as usual. Even if his great grand father wakes up today to tell him Jesus is in heaven, he will still find an excuse.
One thing with nonesense is that, you only have to confuse yourself that you have made sense.

Misogynist2014:
Abi o. Just wanted to cool off. Imagine weah telling me that a whole Super Sport was lying! We all know they had nothing to loose nor gain. So you mean they should have announced the stuff? Incredible! Lame arguments as usual. Even if his great grand father wakes up today to tell him Jesus is in heaven, he will still find an excuse.
One thing with nonesense is that, you only have to confuse yourself that you have made sense.

People who want to impress by predicting a scoreline would say the score on TV. Most TV stations have only a few seconds of delay time.

When you bring a box and an envelope, and a piece of paper, you're performing a TRICK. Tricks confound the imagination, but they're still tricks.