iterator24:
l'm helping your people here you're calling me refugee? lol...

how much do you charge for a 'chiskop'?

Henry120:
MudaZA, South-African banks aren't financing anything.

One day South Africans will claim they are financing Saudi Arabia
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MduZA:


how much do you charge for a 'chiskop'?

the video again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Nc-WV-Q5M

AugustineAgain:


I did my math before I said both are $2 Billion navies.

12 Shaldag, OCEA and Eagle crafts alone cost $100 million.

2 stealth OPVs alone cost about $250 million

2 Endurance cutters Value is about $400 million

We have over 300 new patrol boats various sizes, all brand new.

4 Valour frigates and 3 Heroine submarines cost about $300 million each.

Nigerians think before they talk. Reason why the white man fears us more than they fear you South Africans
.

I beg to differ. SAN is a blue water navy while NN is still a brown water navy which makes it inferior to SAN in terms of the figures.

Henry120:


Where are your A109's Mike?

Master Blaster of a reply !!!
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iterator24:
I'm teaching your dullard children maths ode!

so you are one of the Nigerians teaching in these fly by night schools?am told that security guards beat your salaries twice

MduZA:


so you are one of the Nigerians teaching in these fly by night schools?am told that security guards beat your salaries twice

I can feed your entire family lineage dawgh.. you called me, so?

ActivateKruger:


Your navy doesn't have basics like;

- Replenishment ship
- Operational frigate
- Submarine

Nigeria has a coast guard - South Africa has the most advanced and sophisticated Navy in SSA

Your navy doesn't have basics like :

- High speed high sea interceptors
- Long endurance ocean patrol cutters that can sail around Africa
- Stealth OPV
- Stealth MPV
- Stealth IPV
- LUH helicopters

South African navy will be dribbled and defeated by high speed pirates at sea or on coastline
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iterator24:
I can feed your entire family lineage dawgh.. you called me, so?

how sweet south Africa s tap water is compared to the river water back in Nigeria?

According to the 2014 defence Review the defence budget will increase by +- 16 million Rand next year!
And will increase by 6.8% from 2017 t0 2028.

mzilakazi:


I beg to differ. SAN is a blue water navy while NN is still a brown water navy which makes it inferior to SAN in terms of the figures.

I proved my $2 Billion value. You should be honest enough to admit that.

Define blue water navy from dictionary and lets see where NNS centenary, NNS Unity, NNS Thunder and NNS Okpabana will stand after sailing from Lagos to Australia without refuelling, I guess the deep ocean is not blue from Lagos to Australia, it's all brown swamp river water according to South African educational textbooks
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AugustineAgain:


Your navy doesn't have basics like :

- High speed high sea interceptors
- Long endurance ocean patrol cutters that can sail around Africa
- Stealth OPV
- Stealth MPV
- Stealth IPV
- LUH helicopters

South African navy will be dribbled and defeated by high speed pirates at sea or on coastline
.

Nigeria has no stealth MPV or Stealth IPV!

MikeCZAR:
Where's Nigeria's sea replishment vessel?

Like unicorns it doesn't exist, if say you wanted to attack Tanzania at sea and destroy somee naval you'd have to beg countries along the way.

Let South Africa go attack Angola at sea and learn what an Su-30 Flanker will do to a Valour Frigate
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patches689:


Long endurance vessels yet you cannot even secure your own waters?

Long endurance vessels that have no conventional warfighing capabilities?

Second hand, obsolete vessels that even the USCG turned their noses up to

Piracy isn't done in Nigerian waters. The seas are militarised. Most attacks this year took place away from Nigerian waters.

Like Nigeria has consistently shown, if the need arises we would buy if we want to.

You wasted money on Frigates, now you're looking to buy OPV's, seeing your dead beat frigates can't undergo long endurance patrols.

The United states military and coast guard regularly upgrades their equipments. In many respects NNS Thunder and NNS Okpobana are more modern ships than your Frigates.

Each both undertook an 8 million dollars up-grade.

What is obsolete is your Sub which spent 7years at the docks. Another predictable South-African waste.

MduZA:


how sweet south Africa s tap water is compared to the river water back in Nigeria?

speak English

patches689:


Tenders released

7 Frigates

Deal with it

1997- 2015 = 18 years.

2015 would pass by, aand you'd still be dreaming of some fairy tale Frigate.

Henry120:


1997- 2015 = 18 years.

2015 would pass by, aand you'd still be dreaming of some fairy tale Frigate.

Rome was never built in one day.

AugustineAgain:


I did my math before I said both are $2 Billion navies.

12 Shaldag, OCEA and Eagle crafts alone cost $100 million.

2 stealth OPVs alone cost about $250 million

2 Endurance cutters Value is about $400 million

We have over 300 new patrol boats various sizes, all brand new.

4 Valour frigates and 3 Heroine submarines cost about $300 million each.

Nigerians think before they talk. Reason why the white man fears us more than they fear you South Africans
.

How many endurance cutters do you have? Because $400 million can easily buy you ten of those 50 year old ships.

jln115:


First your web-link isnt working, second 215 isnt 300 and lastly you stated nothing about 60 stealth catamarans.

You are an ungrateful fellow, I spent one hour ending that information for you, you couldn't do it yourself. I got banned as agaugust posting Nigerian stealth combat catamarans from defenceweb, you try it and see . Ingrate.

215 ships was many years ago deal around 2008, since then we bought dozens more including the Dutch advanced vessels under construction now. We have over 300 total.

I posted photos of Nigerian stealth catamarans today because I know it shocks every South African.

Now you google this and post the web link for us to read :

Nigerian navy X-38 combat catamarans defenceweb
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patches689:


SAN = geared for war, able to defend against all threats
NN = geared for brown water operations (and failing at them)

Gripen order was large so that we dont need to make a panic order should we find ourselves in a war, and wait for months for their delivery, while our men die and cities are ravaged

The "defective" combat suite found in the Valour class is also found in:
- French Navy's La Fayette-class frigates
- Saudi Arabian F3000-class air-defence frigates
- French nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle.

Are they "defective" as well?

NN geared towards Nigeria's threats. Smart Navy, Smart defence procurement.

With the Gripen, you bought fighters you cannot afford. The effects of buying like a "mumu" is more than half the fleet in storage, and only 8 pilots to show after 15 years.

The Mexicans have inquired about the Gripens, I hope Zuma acts intelligently and sells the Mexican airforce the Gripens.

Henry120:


Piracy is done in Nigerian waters. The seas are militarised. Most attacks this year took place away from Nigerian waters.

Like Nigeria has consistently shown, if the need arises we would buy if we want to.

You wasted money on Frigates, now you're looking to buy OPV's, seeing your dead beat frigates can't undergo long endurance patrols.

The United states military and coast guard regularly upgrades their equipments. In many respects NNS Thunder and NNS Okpobana are more modern ships than your Frigates.

Each both undertook an 8 million dollars up-grade.

What is obsolete is your Sub which spent 7years at the docks. Another predictable South-African waste.

NNS Thunder+okopbana more modern than our Valours, which are one of the most modern of all the meko 200 class frigates ?
Lets compare:

GHKWAME1:
I keep stressing that you guys keep Ghana out of this comparison of d1ck sizes, but you keep bring us into this fvckkery.

Kwaaaa! @BOLDED! Coming from someone who is a citizen from a one party state, this is laughable! Ghanaians have shown the mettle in changing governments when the need arises, receiving lectures about democracy from Nigerians is an insult. … What delusional lies are you making about EPA? First off! this agreement does not involve east Africans, secondly! You guys always W'ack off this your idea of controlling Ghana's economy, no wonder your country is the number one fraud capital on earth. What economic miracle exists in Nigeria? You only sit down for mannah(oil) to fall, whilst countries like Ghana do the hard work, see how your oil dependent economy is crumbling as a result of low prices in oil? Sloganiarism is the hallmark of the Nigerian, from giants of Africa to Africa's biggest economy, there is nothing to show for all these years of boastfulness. Y'all behave like the student whose father can't pay his school fees but has money to buy a cow to celebrate his birthday.

Dude, we are Nigerians, the Naija Ninjas of Africa, we fear nobody, not even the white nations. How do you think we will obey your command to 'Keep Ghana out of this talks' ?

Where were you this week when your Ghanaian country man Kwametut -AwodwaGyan was teaming up with South Africans to heap unprovoked insults on Nigeria?

This is our nairaland internet forum, nobody orders Nigerians around here, it's Lagos NOT Accra !!!

Get it?
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patches689:


T-72 performance in every war it has ever fought in shows us it is trash. No one takes poor quality Nigerian propaganda seriously.

T-72 is absolute trash and ranks amongst the worst tanks ever made, and is most certainly the worst MBT in existance. Simple as that.

Yes, poor nations cannot afford to buy from the rest so they buy from China, because their products are cheap knock-offs of Soviet era equipment.

Gripen is one of the best single-engine multi-role fighters in the world.

The T-72 does for the Nigerian army, what the Nigerian army requires of it. This is the only thing that matters.

The chinese are the 4th largest weapons exporter, deal with that. Turkey, Europe's 6th largest economy and one of NATO's larger partners is buying the HQ-9 ADS.

You cannot afford the Gripens you bought. You could not afford them when you bought them, you cannot afford them now, so why bother buying them?

ActivateKruger:


You have terrible training all out your armed forces that why the Americans had to train you.

American commandos were in South Africa helping you to fight local Rhino Poachers. LOL !
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MikeCZAR:
Weren't you the one claiming "modern" here?

How many pirate attacks have been recorded in waters around you?

Your navy would perish, if they faced SAN. what would a Hamilton class vessel do? SAN OPV(s) can sink them easily.

They are very much, very modern vessels.

Pirates activities have decreased in Nigerian waters, most attacks have occurred in Angolan waters, your supposed Area of Influence.

The Navy is currently built to carry out a specific role, which is effective patrolling and surveillance of Nigerian EEZ.

We cannot say same for your navy or the lack of assets you have.

Cannonleo:

Did not lose a single tank 2 hostile fire..bro ur on a long thing bia henry120 is dis how this guy behaves...i can tell u near al bahsra...a skirmish or ambush by a mix.of gmp-2 and T-72 led to the loss of 10abram tanks and a couple of bradleys...a couple more abrams were lost to.friendly fire and subsequent dust haze dat envoloped the battle space soon after...the firsr engagement...mind u the M version has been upgraded to SIM versions

This is their way.

MikeCZAR:
Jordan bought 50.

Failure is a Nigerian dream to have a competitive defence industry.

The Nigerian defence industry dream is to feed the large Nigerian market.

iterator24:
speak English

am not speaking but typing....mr maths teacher

Henry120:


NN geared towards Nigeria's threats. Smart Navy, Smart defence procurement.

With the Gripen, you bought fighters you cannot afford. The effects of buying like a "mumu" is more than half the fleet in storage, and only 8 pilots to show after 15 years.

The Mexicans have inquired about the Gripens, I hope Zuma acts intelligently and sells the Mexican airforce the Gripens.

Who said SA cannot afford to maintain Gripens? SA has the capacity to operate gripens, it is just that for now military is not prioritised in budget allocations because no threats have been encountered so far. SA with a budget three times bigger than that of Nigeria prioritise Infrastructural development, health and social development most.

AugustineAgain:


You are an ungrateful fellow, I spent one hour ending that information for you, you couldn't do it yourself. I got banned as agaugust posting Nigerian stealth combat catamarans from defenceweb, you try it and see . Ingrate.

215 ships was many years ago deal around 2008, since then we bought dozens more including the Dutch advanced vessels under construction now. We have over 300 total.

I posted photos of Nigerian stealth catamarans today because I know it shocks every South African.

Now you google this and post the web link for us to read :

Jap as i thought the manufactures say nothing about stealth.

Nigerian navy X-38 combat catamarans defenceweb
.

www.northseaboats.com/x38_combat_i.htm#.VInLadKUfIQ
As i thought the manufactures say nothing about it being stealth.

GENERAL DESCRIPTION

The Combat Cat is a stepped-hull high-speed power catamaran design that offers sea-keeping, speed and safety in all operating conditions. It can be configured for military, law enforcement, diving and Search and Rescue (SAR) use, and is ideally suited for rapid response interception, amphibious deployment of commandos, counter-piracy, medical evacuations or regular patrol work.

For less cost and risk than other high value patrol or combat assets, it can provide striking power against critical targets, as well as protect inshore and off-shore resources and assets. It can also be equipped with enhanced features for special warfare operations.

A catamaran has distinct advantages over mono-hull craft, as the low draft allows them to operate in shallow water and river estuaries, and conduct beach landings. Its wide beam reduces rolling, and produces a stable level ride, that makes it easier to come alongside other vessels, and creates a superior arms platform with improved weapons accuracy.

The foredeck has a gun-well that provides 270 degree coverage for a GPMG, or a 40mm grenade launcher, and two large deck hatches ensure fast and direct access forward for amphibious assaults. The aft deck has space for 2 side mounted GPMG.

The cabin accommodates a Captain/Navigator, helmsman, engineer and gunner, and features forward facing windows, which increases the effective cabin space, and reduces glare and heat build-up in the cabin. Troops or passengers are accommodated in transport seats in the hulls.

The Combat Cat can be operated by a crew of 2 or 4, and is capable of carrying an additional 10 - 12 fully equipped troops. It can reach speeds of around 40 knots, using either twin inboard diesels or outboards. The inboard diesel model has large deck access hatches to the engines, and transom platforms for boarding and diving.

CONSTRUCTION

Built entirely from composite GRP with cored sandwich panels, utilising the vacuum resin infusion system. It incorporates vinylester resin and stitched multi-directional E glass and carbon fibre reinforcements and additional strengthening members. The closed-cell high density foam cores increase panel stiffness and reduce the weight usually associated with (solid) GRP boats. This offers great strength and robustness and maximises hull integrity in the event of a collision.

Composite vessels have proven to have lower operational, maintenance and life-cycle costs, and longer life spans than aluminium and steel vessels.

MikeCZAR:
Putting all frigates and submarines at sea simultaneously, would leave the chief of navy without vessels to contribute if ever an emergency surfaced while they're undergoing maintenance or refit.

Like Nigeria today, if you were attacked at sea. Well let's just you'd be caught with your pants down.

I provided you information from SAAF on how the Gripens are operated to reduce costs.

Nigeria has the Aradu, 5 corvettes and missile corvettes to wade of any external agression.

This is the Nigerian Navy as of today.

The Nigerian navy if the threats are real, would convert NNS thunder, NNS okpobana, NNS Centenary and NNS Unity into missile ships. We are very well prepared.


The Gripens are stored because you lack money. Simple.

Same as your A109's.

Henry120:


The Nigerian defence industry dream is to feed the large Nigerian market.

Yet, no country has ever shown any interest to procure Nigerian made weapons. Shame!!!