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jmaine:
Lolz . . .

Did you read what post i quoted before lol, you didn't see it was about the warri refinery? Common jmaine

datolee:
Your argument is neither here nor there.. can you prove to us that the contract was signed by Buhari on behalf of Nigeria? The correct thing to say is that OBJ built one out of the country's four refineries.

Your argument that the contract was signed in 1997, and Buhari was the NNPC chairman, therefore the must have signed the contract is to ignore the fact that the permanent secretary or other government minister or even the head of state can sign the same contract as well. The said refinery was even completed in 1980

The Refinery was built without the Petroleum Minister, a ministry that was undergoing massive reforms.


I am done here.

Obiagelli:
You have no idea what you are talking about, why not do a simple Google search on the refinery, the website of the refinery is on this site. Go and read.

WTF are you on about here. Google ko Bing ni!

datolee:
So it has changed from who signed it to when it was completed?

Jonathan would cough poo if he reads this thread

laBarca alias "baccanista and baccaspace" come and finish what you started.

APC goonss can lie.

Obiagelli:
Did you read what post i quoted before lol, you didn't see it was about the warri refinery? Common jmaine

It is hard for me to understand you today... the topic stated clearly, without any equivocation, that GMB signed the contract for Warri refinery. When in fact the contract was signed 1975.. the refinery was commission in 1978

To ask me when it was commissioned is changing the goalpost while the match is still in play because if we are to go by your logic, Although the Kaduna refinery was signed in 1977, it was completed in 1980 therefore Buhari did not build Kaduna refinery because it was not commission by him.

What are we discussing here? who built or who commissioned?

GBTYO:
http://bakerinstitute.org/media/files/page/9b067dc6/noc_nnpc_ugo.pdf


Click on the link above scroll to page 17 and read what legacy your uncle koworption left.

Poor or non existing records , Financial wrecklessness and outright emblezement.

Thanks for this link.

datolee:
It is hard for me to understand you today... the topic stated clearly, without any equivocation, that GMB signed the contract for Warri refinery. When in fact the contract was signed 1975.. the refinery was commission in 1978

To ask me when it was commissioned is changing the goalpost while the match is still in play because if we are to go by your logic, Although the Kaduna refinery was signed in 1977, it was completed in 1980 therefore Buhari did not build Kaduna refinery because it was not commission by him.

What are we discussing here? who built or who commissioned?

My bad, i actually didn't read the topic, buhari didn't sign the warri refinery. Apologies

atlwireles:
Thanks for this link.

You are welcome. I could have quoted the relevant section here but for some reason my device is not able to download it.

If you can try and screen capture it and post here for I know that it is a PDF file with copy restrictions.

Obiagelli:
You can twist all you want, i guess we can give gowon credit for the second Niger bridge that gej signed last year because the design process was done in the 70s.

Bring the link please or, you know now......

Obiagelli:
My bad, i actually didn't read the topic, buhari didn't sign the warri refinery. Apologies

So that is 3 refineries gone... remaining Kaduna refinery

The APC folks should leave Buhari alone. He has nothing to offer, your propaganda will never sell in this country. Buhari is a well known commodity. Everywhere he goes money disappear.

GBTYO:
You are welcome. I could have quoted the relevant section here but for some reason my device is not able to download it.

If you can try and screen capture it and post here for I know that it is a PDF file with copy restrictions.

Let me try, cannot capture the screen.

datolee:
So that is 3 refineries gone... remaining Kaduna refinery

I think the argument had always been about 2 refineries, warri and Kaduna.

In my opinion, he was massively involved in both refineries and he actually started the Kaduna refinery and finished the warri refinery. He also was instrumental in the birth/transformation of the NNPC.

You may not like the dude but his achievements (over exaggerated at times) speaks for him.

MY OPINION.

Datolee taking the janjawéeds to the cleaners by debunking the lies peddled over time by them with FACTS and FIGURES since 500 BC

atlwireles:
The APC folks should leave Buhari alone. He has nothing to offer, your propaganda will never sell in this country. Buhari is a well known commodity. Everywhere he goes money disappear.

chaii..you get bad mouth oo ..Buhari done suffer

Obiagelli:
I think the argument had always been about 2 refineries, warri and Kaduna.

In my opinion, he was massively involved in both refineries and he actually started the Kaduna refinery and finished the warri refinery. He also was instrumental in the birth/transformation of the NNPC.

You may not like the dude but his achievements (over exaggerated at times) speaks for him.

MY OPINION.

Did he supervise the work or was the construction carried out by NNPC engineering dept?

Was it not contracted to a foreign company?

Obiagelli:
I think the argument had always been about 2 refineries, warri and Kaduna.

In my opinion, he was massively involved in both refineries and he actually started the Kaduna refinery and finished the warri refinery. He also was instrumental in the birth/transformation of the NNPC.

You may not like the dude but his achievements (over exaggerated at times) speaks for him.

MY OPINION.

the truth is coming out small small...game on

Descartes:
Datolee taking the jajawéeds to the cleaners by debunking the lies peddled over time with FACTS and FIGURES since 500 BC

the guy bad gan..once Jweeds sees him, they disappear

Obiagelli:
My bad, i actually didn't read the topic, buhari didn't sign the warri refinery. Apologies

God have mercy!

A Janjawiid apologizing and admitting they were wrong?

There is still hope then for Satan to repent and midget Rufai to return to PDP.

CyberWolf:
the guy bad gan..once Jweeds sees him, they disappear

No be small thing; at the sight of him entering thread they'll scamper for safety

GBTYO:
Did he supervise the work or was the construction carried out by NNPC engineering dept?

Was it not contracted to a foreign company?

I will take your questions as honest ones,

Kaduna was built by both foreign and nnpc engineers. I would expect the minister to be involved.

Curlieweed:
Signing a contract to build a refinery in Kaduna (hundreds of miles) from any crude oil source is a stupid thing to commend anyone for. That was one daft, politically determined, wasteful project. There is nothing to boast about here.

That's naive.

I also thought same when I was say...13-15 yrs of age.

Its actually a very good idea. You prefer the transportation of refined petroleum products via tankers, putting pressure on our roads and infrastructures; or via pipelines that are easily traced and burst these days? At least, a pipeline know to be carrying crude is not as attractive as a pipeline carrying petrol.

And I've not even started on the economics as regards job creation- reducing the propensity for ppl to indulge in violence; sundry industries tied to the refinery springing up; the fact that we would be producing the products at lower costs thereby equalising the prices of the petrol and other distillates throughout the country.

Sometimes we get too bugged down in sentiments to see things clearly. But its ok, you keep on expanding your mind.

Don't stop learning.

laBarca:
KADUNA REFINERY


http://www.nnpcgroup.com/nnpcbusiness/subsidiaries/krpc.aspx

Muhammadu Was the Petroleum Minister and NNPC Head in 1977

That explains how he knew about NNPC double account. Buhari is totally Corrupt.

GBTYO:
God have mercy!

A Janjawiid apologizing and admitting they were wrong?

There is still hope then for Satan to repent and midget Rufai to return to PDP.

..my belle oo

where are the refineries today , they are now scraps , relics and signs of bad economic decision.
The question is why build a refinery in Kaduna against the norm of building a large Depot in Kaduna and building the refinery in Port Harcourt or .
Warri. some of the economic decisions taken during that period were the worst form of disastrous economic decisions ever to happen to Nigeria.

some examples include the Ajaokuta steel project that was never completed and is a pipe drain project.

Katsina steel project .

Obasanjo farms.

Operation feed the nations.

Kaduna refinery

***Datolee enters thread Janjáweeds scamper for safety***

laBarca:
However, credit must first go to Head of State, General Olusegun Obasanjo, because it was under his administration that Buhari signed and supervised the implementation of the Two Refinery projects

The lies being peddled by a section of the media, some of whose agents are here on Nairaland, is staggering. This is the umpteenth time one would deal with this issue. I think it's about time to let it rest. Some people are hard-wired to denounce the truth whenever they see it or hear about it, they thrive in lies, filth, and of course darkness!!

I wouldn't bother joining issues with anyone who imagines that Buhari deserves no credit for the establishment of some of the refineries we have in this country. I know what I know and no amount of uncanny alterations and propaganda can dent the squeeky clean reputation of the People's General.

God bless APC.

Trut:
APC goonss can lie.

this is all i knows

Obiagelli:
My bad, i actually didn't read the topic, buhari didn't sign the warri refinery. Apologies

laff no go kill me.

omenka:
The lies being peddled by a section of the media, some of whose agents are here on Nairaland, is staggering. This is the umpteenth time one would deal with this issue. I think it's about time to let it rest. Some people are hard-wired to denounce the truth whenever they see it or hear about it, they thrive in lies, filth, and of course darkness!!

I wouldn't bother joining issues with anyone who imagines that Buhari deserves no credit for the establishment of some of the refineries we have in this country. I know what I know and no amount of uncanny alterations and propaganda can dent the squeeky clean reputation of the People's General.

God bless APC.

Congrats! You just did the near impossible task of stringing words together without making any sense.