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abelbriggs:
The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).  The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse).  The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.  Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
 
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
 
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.
 
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
 
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".  This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
 
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."  The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
 
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
 
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
 
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

so u guys ve finally accepted that u re polytheists, gud to no, hmmmmmmmm

halix239:
ehen, if boko boys wan attack, they must first give notice, n u re a mod, hia nawaoooo

Are they now endangered specie or will the Christians return the favour next Friday?

It's commendable if only the above question is positive but if not, I am afraid it's a bad signal.

JayJustus:
then they should stop shouting that phrase before they kill people...the phrase is what Muslims say when they pray...so don't tell me crap...Saddam Hussein was Hindu?? Bin Laden was a Buddhist??

yes we ll kip saying the phrase cos its the truth n if u don't like it, u can take a gun and shoot straight right into ur dumb brain

lomprico:
When u deceive urself finish let us know.

rather u re the one deceiving urself

JayJustus:
it doesn't erase the fact that all these terrorists are Muslims and Quran talks about Jihad...which is to kill or pat on the back?? nonsense!!! facking terrorists...ISIS subsidiaries!!

nw i know ignorance is truely a disease, u need a cure which unfortunately we won't b able to help u

Ngwakwe:
Are they now endangered specie or will the Christians return the favour next Friday?

It's commendable if only the above question is positive but if not, I am afraid it's a bad signal.

ur comment still doesn't make any sense, so pack well jor

halix239:
ur comment still doesn't make any sense, so pack well jor

It's unfortunate you called my name, I dignified you with a response and yet you were still rude as if I know you existed.

Learn how to ignore and more also walk away.

Ngwakwe:
It's unfortunate you called my name, I dignified you with a response and yet you were still rude as if I know you existed.

Learn how to ignore and more also walk away.

i don't know u too so u re no importance

nkeona:
and u ar d biggest fool who always sai all Muslim ar nt same... al i know is violence runs in the blood of al Muslim.. fools don't quote me.

thank God u said ALL U KNOW, Then stick to ur ignorant point,gullible dullard

nkeona:
and u ar d biggest fool who always sai all Muslim ar nt same... al i know is violence runs in the blood of al Muslim.. fools don't quote me.

thank God u said ALL U KNOW, Then stick to ur ignorant point,gullible dullard n i ll quote u again and again to prove to u dat u re a dummy

abbey621:
How clueless are you? I doubt if you've ever read the Quran in your life. Show me one Holy book that is not filled with a mixture of violence and love, if you really want to educate yourself look back in history and see how people of evil intentions have used religion to commit hateful crimes and destruction. From Hitler to the Holy Roman Catholic Church to the Han dynasty of China, there will always be fools who believe they can use religion to spread fear and hate, people like you only help them to succeed.

doesn't erase the plain ol' fact that y'll are bunch of fundamentalists that like to reduce religion into something that is biased based on your personal feelings...be killing people where y'll at...everywhere especially the north of many countries is where y'll operate...Kenya?? Pakistan?? you come here b.itching that y'll cool guys facking terrorism groomed bunch of inhumane homosapiens

halix239:
nw i know ignorance is truely a disease, u need a cure which unfortunately we won't b able to help u

Hahahahahahahaha...better stop using technology to type crap here...go make some grenades after all that's what your fundamentalism driven religion taught you to do...kill people that are "unbelievers" in your sight

JayJustus:
doesn't erase the plain ol' fact that y'll are bunch of fundamentalists that like to reduce religion into something that is biased based on your personal feelings...be killing people where y'll at...everywhere especially the north of many countries is where y'll operate...Kenya?? Pakistan?? you come here b.itching that y'll cool guys facking terrorism groomed bunch of inhumane homosapiens

Clap for yourself, you are really making sense Mr. Einstein!