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Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 9:31pm On Dec 29, 2014

proo212:
Truthman2012, many thanks for this verse. I only knew about this one. Thank God for Jesus.

Thank you, you are welcome.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by malvisguy212: 9:43pm On Dec 29, 2014

Elkewwty:
lets start from here.

here is that the koran god say:
Quran (8 :12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of
those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their
heads and strike off.

we see jesus the father saying same thing in'
Deuteronomy 2:24 Then the LORD said, “Now
get moving! Cross the Arnon Gorge. Look, I
will hand over to you Sihon the Amorite, king
of Heshbon, and I will give you his land.
Attack him and begin to occupy the land.

2:25 This very day I will begin to put the
terror and fear of you on all the nations
under heaven. They will hear reports of you
and will tremble and be in anguish because
of you.”

both are casting terror to the heart of those who
dont believe in dem. isnt it?

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by malvisguy212: 9:45pm On Dec 29, 2014

Elkewwty:
lets start from here.

here is that the koran god say:
Quran (8 :12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of
those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their
heads and strike off.

we see jesus the father saying same thing in'
Deuteronomy 2:24 Then the LORD said, “Now
get moving! Cross the Arnon Gorge. Look, I
will hand over to you Sihon the Amorite, king
of Heshbon, and I will give you his land.
Attack him and begin to occupy the land.

2:25 This very day I will begin to put the
terror and fear of you on all the nations
under heaven. They will hear reports of you
and will tremble and be in anguish because
of you.”

both are casting terror to the heart of those who
dont believe in dem. isnt it?

before you accused God of killing innocent people, first who are the amorite? Don't you know they are isreal enemy? The amorite and the moab are rich nation God forbid the isrealite to mix with them because they are teaching there children how to worship there gods.

"It is not for your righteousness or for
the uprightness of your heart that
you are going to possess their land,
but it is because of the wickedness of
these nations that the LORD your God
is driving them out before you, in
order to confirm the oath which the
LORD swore to your fathers, to
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
( Deuteronomy 9:5)

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by Ifeann(f): 9:49pm On Dec 29, 2014

Elkewwty:
save those trash i deleted in ur post and tell it to ignoramus you sell ur xtianity to.

Can you respect and love your neighbours, regardless of their religious beliefs, when you think you know in your heart, what God must want of them, because you have an intimate relationship with God {whatever that means}?

your attention is needed on thread such as the one below, he was formally a xtian. can you relay to him all that bullcrap in your post?

www.nairaland.com/2045070/rants-questions-religion/1

Aha the typical attitude of the man/ woman that knows not God.

One of the 1st things I notice about people is their religious affiliation or lack thereof.

The 2nd thing I notice is their manner of communication and their penchant to be rude or polite.

You are a very rude human. Why I prefer engaging Muslims is because even though they are close minded they are far better off than the Atheists and agnostics. I don't know why atheists and agnostics (which ever category you belong to) spend so much time discussing religion if it isn't your cup of teach.

My view is that the same spirit that is anti God that is found in Islam is also found in atheism.

You said, "Can you respect and love your neighbours, regardless of their religious beliefs, when you think you know in your heart, what God must want of them"
.. Wow, u are ignorant aren't you?I just think your ideology and its followers are most to be pitied. Why wouldn't I respect and love them. I love all humans as Christ commands me too. I am christain, One of my best friends is a Muslim, I have Muslim family members, I have several atheist and agnostics friends and once in a while I throw them the gospel as I am commanded to. My hope is one day the truth of the gospel becomes glaringly apparent to them and they accept Christ.

You said "intimate relationship with God {whatever that means}?"
you are a Godless person, you can never know what that means as long as you agree to remain in your folly.

You said "your attention is needed on thread such as the one below, he was formally a xtian." and "save those trash i deleted in ur post and tell it to ignoramus you sell ur xtianity to."

Lol. I prefer scholarly atheists, I am currently reading the latest edition of The Selfish Gene by the fiercely atheist Richard Dawkins, I also listen to Bill maher, amongst others as well as pro Islamic scholars and of course christain apologetics. You see, unlike you,I am not a close minded bigot.
You said I Wrote thrash, I say prove it, prove it is wrong. Or you are a bigot.

If you want to engage Christians in a discussion about their fate, insulting or belittling them is a wrong way to go. We have come to expect that;

My Bible tells me to expect it in Matt. 10:25-26, " If they have called the Master Beelzebub, how much more shall they call His household? Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."

My brother in humanity, the falsehood of your ideology will be revealed no matter the insults you throw and by the Grace of our lord Jesus you will be saved.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by Ifeann(f): 9:49pm On Dec 29, 2014

Elkewwty:
save those trash i deleted in ur post and tell it to ignoramus you sell ur xtianity to.

Can you respect and love your neighbours, regardless of their religious beliefs, when you think you know in your heart, what God must want of them, because you have an intimate relationship with God {whatever that means}?

your attention is needed on thread such as the one below, he was formally a xtian. can you relay to him all that bullcrap in your post?

www.nairaland.com/2045070/rants-questions-religion/1

Aha the typical attitude of the man/ woman that knows not God.

One of the 1st things I notice about people is their religious affiliation or lack thereof.

The 2nd thing I notice is their manner of communication and their penchant to be rude or polite.

You are a very rude human. Why I prefer engaging Muslims is because even though they are close minded they are far better off than the Atheists and agnostics. I don't know why atheists and agnostics (which ever category you belong to) spend so much time discussing religion if it isn't your cup of teach.

My view is that the same spirit that is anti God that is found in Islam is also found in atheism.

You said, "Can you respect and love your neighbours, regardless of their religious beliefs, when you think you know in your heart, what God must want of them"
.. Wow, u are ignorant aren't you?I just think your ideology and its followers are most to be pitied. Why wouldn't I respect and love them. I love all humans as Christ commands me too. I am christain, One of my best friends is a Muslim, I have Muslim family members, I have several atheist and agnostics friends and once in a while I throw them the gospel as I am commanded to. My hope is one day the truth of the gospel becomes glaringly apparent to them and they accept Christ.

You said "intimate relationship with God {whatever that means}?"
you are a Godless person, you can never know what that means as long as you agree to remain in your folly.

You said "your attention is needed on thread such as the one below, he was formally a xtian." and "save those trash i deleted in ur post and tell it to ignoramus you sell ur xtianity to."

Lol. I prefer scholarly atheists, I am currently reading the latest edition of The Selfish Gene by the fiercely atheist Richard Dawkins, I also listen to Bill maher, amongst others as well as pro Islamic scholars and of course christain apologetics. You see, unlike you,I am not a close minded bigot.
You said I Wrote thrash, I say prove it, prove it is wrong. Or you are a bigot.

If you want to engage Christians in a discussion about their fate, insulting or belittling them is a wrong way to go. We have come to expect that;

My Bible tells me to expect it in Matt. 10:25-26, " If they have called the Master Beelzebub, how much more shall they call His household? Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known."

My brother/sister in humanity, the falsehood of your ideology will be revealed no matter the insults you throw and by the Grace of our lord Jesus you will be saved.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by Elkewwty(f): 9:54pm On Dec 29, 2014

malvisguy212:
before you accused God of killing innocent people, first who are the amorite? Don't you know they are isreal enemy? The amorite and the moab are rich nation God forbid the isrealite to mix with them because they are teaching there children how to worship there gods.

"It is not for your righteousness or for
the uprightness of your heart that
you are going to possess their land,
but it is because of the wickedness of
these nations that the LORD your God
is driving them out before you, in
order to confirm the oath which the
LORD swore to your fathers, to
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
( Deuteronomy 9:5)

2:25 This very day I will begin to put the
terror and fear of you on all the nations
under heaven. They will hear reports of you
and will tremble and be in anguish because
of you.”

Is these verse talking about the amorite? the bolded is clear enough.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by malvisguy212: 9:57pm On Dec 29, 2014

Elkewwty:
smh

You said jesus stopped genocide, was he not the one dat commanded it earlier, that was his reply. stop being hypocrite for once

God loved required God justices, as a man deciplien his children when they did evil that how God loved is, in the old testament the people cannot keep the law because they don't have the willpower to do so, so God himself come in the flash to fulfilled it for us,when we looked at God law, we look into the fulfilment in the new testament. God want to have a relationship with his people.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 10:02pm On Dec 29, 2014

Elkewwty:
2:25 This very day I will begin to put the
terror and fear of you on all the nations
under heaven. They will hear reports of you
and will tremble and be in anguish because
of you.”

Is these verse talking about the amorite? the bolded is clear enough.

You lack good knowledge of the bible. The terror and fear referred to was a form of security for the Israellites. Instead of their enemies attacking them, they would be feared.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by malvisguy212: 10:12pm On Dec 29, 2014

Elkewwty:
2:25 This very day I will begin to put the
terror and fear of you on all the nations
under heaven. They will hear reports of you
and will tremble and be in anguish because
of you.”

Is these verse talking about the amorite? the bolded is clear enough.

'' This day will I begin to put the dread of thee'' ,.... And so fulfil the prophecies delivered by Moses in Exodus 15:14.
'' and the fear of thee upon the nations
that are under the whole heaven'' ; not
only the neighbouring nations, the
Edomites, Moabites, Ammonites,
Philistines, and Canaanites, but nations
more remote even throughout the whole world:
'' who shall report of thee'' ; of what was
done for Israel in Egypt, and at the Red
sea, and in the wilderness; and
particularly of the delivery of Sihon and
Og, kings of the Amorites, and of their
kingdoms into their hands:
and shall tremble, and be in anguish
because of thee ; lest they should
proceed on, and make conquests of their
lands also; Joshua 2:9.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by Elkewwty(f): 10:14pm On Dec 29, 2014

truthman2012:
You lack good knowledge of the bible. The terror and fear referred to was a form of security for the Israellites. Instead of their enemies attacking them, they would be feared.

lie,

read verse 24, they are busy taking possesion of lakd dat his not deres and your god was busy putting terrors in the heart of the natives of those lands. smh

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by malvisguy212: 10:15pm On Dec 29, 2014

truthman2012:
You lack good knowledge of the bible. The terror and fear referred to was a form of security for the Israellites. Instead of their enemies attacking them, they would be feared.

I believe, the brother is a jehovah witness.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 7:19am On Dec 30, 2014

malvisguy212:
I believe, the brother is a jehovah witness.

She is a woman jare! Thank you.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by malvisguy212: 8:09am On Dec 30, 2014

truthman2012:
She is a woman jare! Thank you.

just like how satan deceive eve to sink the foundation of the world, that is how he(satan) was using women to sink our new foundation in Christ.the way women are causing controversy in the church is so much, satan is using the same trick he use on eve.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 8:34am On Dec 30, 2014*

malvisguy212:
just like how satan deceive eve to sink the foundation of the world, that is how he(satan) was using women to sink our new foundation in Christ.the way women are causing controversy in the church is so much, satan is using the same trick he use on eve.

Thank you.
You see, there is an adage in Yorubaland that says ''it is the misbehaviour of one slave that causes people to insult all slaves''. I agree with you that women are good instruments in satan's hand and that they easily fall into his hand, but yet there are women that are vessels of honour in the hand of the Lord. Alkewwty is like a slave wanting us to condemn all the slaves, abi?

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by Elkewwty(f): 9:21am On Dec 30, 2014*

truthman2012:
Thank you.
You see, there is an adage in Yorubaland that says ''it is the misbehaviour of one slave that causes people to insult all slaves''. I agree with you that women are good instruments in satan's hand and that they easily fall into his hand, but yet there are women that are vessels of honour in the hand of the Lord. Alkewwty is like a slave wanting us to condemn all the slaves, abi?

lols,

What reliogionist resort to when dey cant defend d atrocities recorded in dere books. smh

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by malvisguy212: 9:24am On Dec 30, 2014

truthman2012:
Thank you.
You see, there is an adage in Yorubaland that says ''it is the misbehaviour of one slave that causes people to insult all slaves''. I agree with you that women are good instruments in satan's hand and that they easily fall into his hand, but yet there are women that are vessels of honour in the hand of the Lord. Alkewwty is like a slave wanting us to condemn all the slaves, abi?

you are very correct. I pray God open here eyes in Jesus name.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by malvisguy212: 9:48am On Dec 30, 2014

Elkewwty:
lols,

What reliogionist resort to when dey cabt defend d atrocities recorded in dere books. smh

there is no genocide in the bible, the amorite has long been judge but God did not punish them until they fill up there measure.

Genesis15:16.'' After four generations your
descendants will return here to this land, when the sin of the Amorites has RUN IT'S COURSE."

Verse 18 say God made his covenant to gives this nations to Abraham descendants;

Genesis15:18-21
18 So the LORD made a covenant with
Abram that day and said, "I have given
this land to your descendants, all the
way from the border of Egypt* to the
great Euphrates River--1
19 the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites,
Kadmonites,
20 Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites,
21 Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites,
and Jebusites."

And when they fill up the measure of there sin, God fulfilled his promise, all this while,they would have known of God judgment and repented, but they refused.if you read Genesis 10 ,the amorite and canaanites and the rest are from the descendant of Nimrod who worship idols, they continue they worship of there forefathers, or are you in support of idols worshippers who killed babies for there gods?

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 12:15pm On Dec 30, 2014

Elkewwty:
lie,

read verse 24, they are busy taking possesion of lakd dat his not deres and your god was busy putting terrors in the heart of the natives of those lands. smh

U don't believe any religion yet you keep searching the bible ignorantly. What is not their's? Who created what you think is Cananites'?

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by Elkewwty(f): 7:00pm On Dec 30, 2014

You are not wise or probably you are not thinking straight.
Perhaps your hypocrisy has beclowded you from seeing and saying the truth. had it been you are thinking like a wise man, you would have seen dat you just affirm to the response of weah with dis your post. how will you feel if israel attack nigeria today and kill everyone before taking over our land, and dey actually did dat because dere god allegedly created everything.?.smh.

truthman2012:
U don't believe any religion yet you keep searching the bible ignorantly. What is not their's? Who created what you think is Cananites'?

the question you are asking here automatically answered your thread (you will see that only if you are wise, which i doubt if you are). Infact weah already made it clear dat dey (islami terrorist) are also killing for dere god because they believe dere god created everything. can you now see your level of hypocrisy?

gudbye.

Re: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 8:36pm On Dec 30, 2014

Elkewwty:
You are not wise or probably you are not thinking straight.
Perhaps your hypocrisy has beclowded you from seeing and saying the truth. had it been you are thinking like a wise man, you would have seen dat you just affirm to the response of weah with dis your post. how will you feel if israel attack nigeria today and kill everyone before taking over our land, and dey actually did dat because dere god allegedly created everything.?.smh.

the question you are asking here automatically answered your thread (you will see that only if you are wise, which i doubt if you are). Infact weah already made it clear dat dey (islami terrorist) are also killing for dere god because they believe dere god created everything. can you now see your level of hypocrisy?

gudbye.

Smh!!!

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