₦airaland Forum

Rawani:
This is in light of the front page topic. Since the Catholic Church claims it does not take a political position/endorse presidential candidates, why then did it not also disagree with Father Mbaka when he endorsed Jonathan?

Your thoughts.

Redoil:
and ur point is what exactly for i know you to be a violent muslim who will do anything to bring down xtian. Mind ur islam and leave xtians to do what they want

Rawani:
This is in light of the front page topic. Since the Catholic Church claims it does not take a political position/endorse presidential candidates, why then did it not also disagree with Father Mbaka when he endorsed Jonathan?

Your thoughts.

italo:
How do you know they didnt disagree?

What if they did privately...because that story wasn't as publicized as this his last sermon.

italo:
How do you know they didnt disagree?

What if they did privately...because that story wasn't as publicized as this his last sermon.

ruffp:
...because some are bootlicking con-men who became priests not outta their own free will.

ruffp:
If they did so privately,then they should have handled this one in like manner. Instead they fuelled the controversy.

Rawani:
They clearly didn't issue any condemnation. Why could this be?

italo:
How do you know this?

When did Catholic Bishops start announcing their disciplinary actions against their own priests to you?

Rawani:
I know this because it was not in the news, and they would have mentioned any prior disciplinary action in their latest statement.

If they did, the question is why they chose to respond in public when the message was against GEJ, but privately when against Buhari despite protests by the opposition at the time.

Are they partisan?

italo:
The Catholic Church has not officially said anything.

Stop making ignorant assumptions.

italo:
The Catholic Church has not made an official statement.

Fr Mbaka's Bishop has not made an official statement.

So stop making ignorant assumptions.

Rawani:
Did you read where I said in the OP that this was a rejoinder to the FP article which stated that the Catholic Church disagreed with Fr. Mbaka or did you ignorantly skip reading it clearly? I'm glad you can see the deceit involved.

ruffp:
U are d one who is clearly ignorant. What is ur definition of an "official statement"........statements made inside an office? Abeg ur level of intelligence is lower than the discuss.....move to "jokes" section.

italo:
The Catholic Church has not said anything about Fr Mbaka to the public. Simple.

If you have anything to prove me wrong, present it here.

ruffp:
www.aitonline.tv/post-catholic_church_disagrees_with_father_mbaka

italo:
The Catholic Church has washed its hands off the ongoing controversy over the strong criticism of President Goodluck Jonathan by Rev Father Ejike Mbaka of Adoration Ministries in Enugu, accusing him of double-speaking.

The church said it did not authorise Mbaka to speak on its behalf, insisting that it is wrong for Mbaka to endorse the president and later warn the electorate not to vote for him during the February 14 presidential poll.

The church added that it did not have an official position on whose candidate the Catholic faithful should vote for, saying that as the largest Christian group, it is illogical for it to direct members to vote for certain candidates as the voters have the prerogative to exercise their inalienable rights in such a situation.

A catholic faithful, Mr Callistus Ebue, disclosed this during an interview with Leadership last night in Enugu.

He said, “The Catholic Church did not authorise Rev Father Mbaka to speak on its behalf. There is no way the church, with millions of its members, make a pronouncement on who to vote for during the February 14 presidential election. The church does not have an official position in this regard. The decision to vote for any candidate is the prerogative right of the church faithful just like any other Nigerian.”

While some of the Catholics in Enugu argue that Mbaka might have been led by the Holy Spirit in his pronouncement over Jonathan’s re-election bid, others said that the cleric ought not to have dabbled into the murky waters of politics.

According to a Catholic knight, Sir Abuchi Anueghiagu, Mbaka was initially inspired by the Holy Spirit to endorse the re-election of Jonathan, saying, however, that whatever Mbaka pronounced during his homily at the Adoration Ministries ground on December 31, 2014, was also a function of the leading of the Holy Spirit.

According to him, as an ordained priest in charge of a parish, Christ the King Parish, and the spiritual director of Adoration Ministries, nobody is qualified to challenge any sermon he delivers from the altar.

But another knight of the Catholic Church who spoke to reporters on condition of anonymity condemned Mbaka of speaking from both sides of his mouth.

He said that having previously blessed Jonathan on his re-election bid, he ought not to have made a volte-face. He advised priests to be cautions of their pronouncements from the altar, as whatever they say has a way of affecting their followers either negatively or positively.

The Catholic bishop of Enugu Diocese, Rev Dr Calistus Onaga, could not be reached at the time of filing this report last night.
- See more at: http://www.aitonline.tv/post-catholic_church_disagrees_with_father_mbaka#sthash.rVn8Fnmo.dpuf

Which of the Bold is the "Catholic Church" that disagreed with Fr Mbaka?

ruffp:
www.punchng.com/news/catholic-secretariat-asks-enugu-bishop-to-caution-mbaka/

Rawani:
This is in light of the front page topic. Since the Catholic Church claims it does not take a political position/endorse presidential candidates, why then did it not also disagree with Father Mbaka when he endorsed Jonathan?

Your thoughts.

italo:
That's more like it.

Now I guess you can ask the CSN why they didn't disagree with Fr Mbaka when he supported Jonathan.

ruffp:
Almost thought u'd have asked me to ask the Pope!

italo:
The CSN is the right body to ask. It represents the Catholic Church in Nigeria.

It's the best way to get the answer to your question.

But I wont be surprised if you prefer ignorant assumptions.

ruffp:
Pally rest for this matter. Nothing satisfies ur type...keep waiting for me to spoonfeed you. If you choose to be a daz man,fine........the rest of us are smart enough to know when tides shift. I'm done with this discussion!

italo:
I see. You only want to discuss with people that will say "because they are hypocrites," right?

That's the problem with the world. People only tolerate their own opinions and those of their supporters...even if it's wrong or ignorant.

That's why Boko Haram exist.

ruffp:
I discuss with people that choose to drive points with some level of intellect.

The problem with the world isn't those that dare to say the truth...its those that have chosen to turn a blind eye to the truth.

Pls wait for the Pope's communique on the matter.....

Evil will always exist cuz good exist!