₦airaland Forum

melomelo:
CORRECT "he forged his o'level and other certificates"

tit:
this people want make i laff fall comot from table!

Olorun! them tell you to bring your certificate you go bring plaque!
Next your go bring convocation program!
You never hear of people wey them print their name for convocation program but them no graduate?

mumunatu!

thaoriginator:
Jobless and clueless bitches everywhere online!




If you want the price of Garri to reduce, vote for Buhari




#SaiBuhari

Bigchief46:
I will repeat the post I made yesterday here under but before I do, let me ask: has GMB submitted the original or indeed any copy of the "M.Sc" allegedly obtained from the U.S. War College to INEC? Is the submission to be made by law on Nairaland or pages of newspapers & social media? Did he mention having such certificate in his Affidavit which is the only evidence yet submitted by him to INEC? Why did Dr. Abayomi not simply refer to the existence of equivalent or higher certificates than WASC instead of giving us analogy of someone who was dismissed and could not take certifying exams for raping the daughter of his teacher? As someone has demonstrated above by adding Abubakar Shekau's name to the list, plaques like this can be easily altered, photoshopped or forged. What is required is a Certificate & not picture of a plaque. That this kind of gimmick has become necessary at all tells you something is wrong somewhere. After all, someone whose name is on that plaque, assuming it is authentic, which is doubtful, could still be denied the "M.Sc" for raping the wife of one of the Faculty.
My word of advice to APC faithful is to take this crises seriously instead of the frivolity I see them displaying on this forum. Yes it is a serious crises. You gain nothing by cursing the PDP or Jonathan because they have no hand in this issue; it is a Constitutional matter and not to be joked with. Those saying this issue is rubbish and they will still vote GMB should note that he may not be on the ballot on Feb. 14 if the needful is not done or even if he is; his candidacy may be subsequently invalidated and heavens will not fall. Don't joke with the PDP; as we speak they are probably already quietly putting their strategy in place; in a game as dicey and important as this, you don't leave unnecessary loopholes. What are the facts?
(1) The Constitution has laid down a Minimum qualification to contest. That qualification is Secondary School Certificate or Equivalent. It is the Constitution that requires this not PDP or "Jonathanians"; so frothing at the mouth & cursing "corrupt" PDP sympathizers is really an exercise in futility and idiotic. The EVIDENCE of any educational qualification or its EQUIVALENT is the Certificate. Note, we are dealing with Constitution here; hence law. In law Evidence is EVERYTHING. A Court of Law looks at nothing else other than "the evidence before it". For instance, no one doubts that Fashola is a Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN) and this is general Knowledge but if that issue becomes subject of dispute tomorrow, the Court will not rule based on the general and accepted knowledge, or the hysteria on Nairaland, but on the evidence before it, which is the SAN certificate or any other acceptable evidence of the conferment. Even if the Judge was present at the conferment ceremony & witnessed it & saw the certificate being handed over to him but Fashola fails to present acceptable evidence of the certificate DURING THE TRIAL, the Judge is bound to hold that no such evidence of conferment of SAN on Fashola was adduced before it and reach a decision accordingly. In this case the Electoral Act mandates COMPULSORILY that evidence of qualification MUST be shown to INEC within the stipulated time.
(2) The Constitution having prescribed a minimum Qualification, it is the duty of a Candidate to procure evidence before INEC that s/he meets such qualification. It is not the duty of INEC or the Army to enter the arena of conflict and start canvassing whether someone is qualified or not; I am therefore amazed at the mindless curses being rained on INEC & the Army. It is the sole duty of GMB to produce evidence that he meets the minimum requirements; if he does not provide such evidence or procure CREDIBLE evidence why he could not, then the presumption in law is that he does not satisfy the Constitutional requirements to contest the election & so there is the very real danger and possibility of his being disqualified either before or after the election. As an aside, those saying PDP and their supporters should go to Court or go "hug a transformer", etc should know that PDP has gifted strategists; PDP that I know will prefer not to do anything now until the period for substitution of candidates has elapsed, thus leaving APC with no VALID candidate; if they act too soon, APC may recognize the danger, persuade GMB to resign and substitute him with another candidate who can still give PDP a stiff fight.
(3) APC supporters have made several very weak arguments that are childish. They claim that GMB has attended several top Military Schools and courses some of whose certificates are equivalent to Master's Degree. The problem is that GMB did not refer to any of these in his affidavit. What people claim on social media has absolutely no bearing on the evidence required. What GMB said is that ALL his credentials are with the Military Board without even listing what they are. So for all we know it could be only his nusery school certificate or FSLC that is with the Military. He ought to have listed all his qualifications in the Affidavit and specify those which are equivalent to or above the minimum required but that was not done. Whatever he says he has was averred to be with the Military. But the Military has issued a statement denying that they keep the originals of any officers' certificates. They say that what they have is service records and that in any event anyone who wants to obtain a copy of what they have can apply and they would oblige. The BIG question is: if GMB indeed has any certificates in possession of the Military from which he retired about 30 years ago, why did he not apply to have at least the copy? And if they refused to oblige him that fact would be averred in his affidavit? Is it conceivable that anyone submits his originals to his employers & does not have a single copy anywhere at all? Why is it that of all the thousands of other officers that have served and still serving in the Military, it is only GMB whose original certificates were retained by the Military since all others affirm that they have always had theirs? Note also that the Military statement did not refer specifically to GMB; they only spoke in General terms to the effect that: they do not retain any officer's original certificates but that they have service records of all officers and that they can supply copies of WHAT THEY HAVE upon application. So if the required certificates of GMB never existed and is not with the military, how does this statement help GMB? Thus if all they have is FSLC for instance, it is only that copy they can give upon application. It does not also help when GMB's supporters ask how he could have attained all the lofty positions he held and be Head of State if he did not have minimum of School Certificate, etc. A Court does not deal with speculation; that is common knowledge. As stated earlier, a Court is interested only in EVIDENCE. That evidence must first be presented to INEC under the electoral laws not to Nairaland or other body; and so if at the close of the stipulated period, evidence of GMB having attained the minimum qualification is not before INEC, then he is standing on very slippery grounds. I say this in case he has the Certificate but he is holding on to it to produce at his leisure. There are strict legal regulations as to form, whom, when and how the evidence is to be adduced. Don't joke with technicalities of law and believe me, a huge Legal battle is already shaping up and it won't look good for GMB and APC.
(3) Statements by Dr. Abayomi and others on behalf of APC are not helpful; they seem not to appreciate the gravity of the matter. Moreover, the very regrettable analogy of someone who raped a teacher's daughter and thus expelled and stopped from taking the certification exams is very unfortunate on such issue of National importance. Also, Dr. Abayomi's asssertion that certificates are not necessary to prove academic qualifications left me dazed and my jaw hit the floor and stayed there for several minutes. If this is the quality of Legal and other Advice GMB receives, then he is in deep trouble. It is incredible that Dr. Abayomi who claimed that they issued GMB with a Certificate after they screened him to show that he passed the screening exercise now turns around to tell us that certificates are not required under the Law to prove qualification. Maybe that is why they are showing suspicious looking plaques instead of certificates to prove M.Sc degree.
(4) Self deceit is a big problem. Any APC supporter who does not see the looming danger and treat it with the seriousness it deserves is simply living in blissful ignorance.

Objektive:
IF YOU WANT THE INTERNATIONAL PRICE OF CRUDE OIL TO INCREASE VOTE BUHARI

TOKUGAWA:
To all thoe still in doubt about GMB's educational achievements.He attended the US Army War College Carlisle in Pennsylvania from 1979 -1980 and earned his command as
a Brigadier General. The respected General Collin Powel attended the same school in 1976 to become Brigadier General. Some of Buhari’s classmates include General. Beltson, General Thomas P Carney, General Bill Matz, General David E.K. Cooper etc. all of them are alive and can be reached and they will give glowing tributes of the man,Buhari, they know as their classmate.The curriculum at the U.S. Army War College earns one a Masters Degree in Strategic Studies and that is what Buhari
has.

Oklander:
Its a proof that he HAD the certs as at then.

byrron:
Now u can see that ordinary Nigerians are the real problems plaquing Nigeria and not the political thieves ruling them.

brownlord:
Lapdog what number are you? I think you a new recruit

tpia1billion:
the sooner nlers agree literacy is not a requirement for holding public office in nigeria, the better.


anyone who believes all this hoopla about peoples' certificates, is not yet another scam to bamboozle the gullible public, is on a long thing.

ie the presence or absence of any certificate is not what determines the outcome of an election.

Kundagarten:
Is this a joke or what?

Only in Nigeria will a presidential candidate present this as certificate, what happened to the original copy? He can't get the war college to give him another copy?

And why did he go with Shekau?

Xetima:
Good question my friend.

Answer: There was no FOI Act. APC legislators led by Abike Dabri arm-twisted GEJ to sign the FOI Act into law. The FOI now gives you and I right to demand from INEC all the information of our prospective leaders. You would recall Stella Oduah case and the issue of missing NNPC money, these are the benefits of the FOI Act. So, we need to see Buhari's certificates which he sworn are with the military.

Now to Sambo, he presented his certificates in the past and also has written to his Alma-mater ABU or so, who confirmed to INEC that he graduated as an Architect from the University. My friend, if you lose your certificates, it is not affidavits of N500.00 that is the solution. You go back to your school, even if you cannot get a copy of your certificate, you request for a transcript. The latter will show:

i. Your name
ii. The course of study
iii. The year you entered the institution
iv. The year you graduated
v. The grade you made

These information would be on the school letter headed paper and signed and stamped by the relevant and current signatory in the institution.

Please, do not vote for frauds. Certificate racketeering is a purnishable offence in Nigeria.

onatisi:
bros ,you have been right all along. We shouldn't blame the corrupt politicians but the masses that love to be cajoled and deceived

Eziachi:
What if, is not an acceptable phrase in any legal framework. Ask any law person.

Kundagarten:
Is this a joke or what?

Only in Nigeria will a presidential candidate present this as certificate, what happened to the original copy? He can't get the war college to give him another copy?

And why did he go with Shekau?

mrmetoo1:
I'm sorry but I'm trying hard to understand this. If a man presents an MSc, why are we asking for school cert? It's like a university asking for my common entrance results

Then you said it yourself that he needed at least an O'level to pass screening. An O'level is a secondary school leaving exam and obviously we know he passed the screening.

Kundagarten:
Is this a joke or what?

Only in Nigeria will a presidential candidate present this as certificate, what happened to the original copy? He can't get the war college to give him another copy?

And why did he go with Shekau?

skaksuzzy:
Confirmed... e don finish... GMB all d way...
pls tell that babe called TIT abi Na boobs not to come and type rubbish here o...

jaybee3:
That's a specific requirement dumbo...

The constitution requires one to have a minimum of secondary school certificate before contesting for the highest post

He couldn't have been able to get on the MSc course without having the prerequisite requirement

Kundagarten:
Is this a joke or what?

Only in Nigeria will a presidential candidate present this as certificate, what happened to the original copy? He can't get the war college to give him another copy?

And why did he go with Shekau?

cjrane:
Wow!
So Buhari went to the same war college as Shekau?

emcaly001:
can u point to a country in d world today that is progressing or has a dynamic economy with an uneducated person as their president? How can u say literacy is not a requirement for leading a country? We should b ashamed that it is a secondary school certificate that is required for qualification to run as president, we are so caught up in this GMB agenda that we do not pay attention to the needful.

tit:
is this his certificate?

is anybody doubting he went to US War College?
He should submit his MSc to INEC.
Simple.

melomelo:
You are a big fraud, infact, dont let God send blood-sucking-arrow to that your tongue. The good-people of Nigeria want to know the relationship between BUHARI and SHEKAU on the same list of a fake, undefined, unrefined, fraudulence war training school certificate. There is defrent btw war schl and university education haba!

Aigipan:
What evidence do you have to support your "what ifs"?

tit:
is this his certificate?

is anybody doubting he went to US War College?
He should submit his MSc to INEC.
Simple.

Bigchief46:
I will repeat the post I made yesterday here under but before I do, let me ask: has GMB submitted the original or indeed any copy of the "M.Sc" allegedly obtained from the U.S. War College to INEC? Is the submission to be made by law on Nairaland or pages of newspapers & social media? Did he mention having such certificate in his Affidavit which is the only evidence yet submitted by him to INEC? Why did Dr. Abayomi not simply refer to the existence of equivalent or higher certificates than WASC instead of giving us analogy of someone who was dismissed and could not take certifying exams for raping the daughter of his teacher? As someone has demonstrated above by adding Abubakar Shekau's name to the list, plaques like this can be easily altered, photoshopped or forged. What is required is a Certificate & not picture of a plaque. That this kind of gimmick has become necessary at all tells you something is wrong somewhere. After all, someone whose name is on that plaque, assuming it is authentic, which is doubtful, could still be denied the "M.Sc" for raping the wife of one of the Faculty.
My word of advice to APC faithful is to take this crises seriously instead of the frivolity I see them displaying on this forum. Yes it is a serious crises. You gain nothing by cursing the PDP or Jonathan because they have no hand in this issue; it is a Constitutional matter and not to be joked with. Those saying this issue is rubbish and they will still vote GMB should note that he may not be on the ballot on Feb. 14 if the needful is not done or even if he is; his candidacy may be subsequently invalidated and heavens will not fall. Don't joke with the PDP; as we speak they are probably already quietly putting their strategy in place; in a game as dicey and important as this, you don't leave unnecessary loopholes. What are the facts?
(1) The Constitution has laid down a Minimum qualification to contest. That qualification is Secondary School Certificate or Equivalent. It is the Constitution that requires this not PDP or "Jonathanians"; so frothing at the mouth & cursing "corrupt" PDP sympathizers is really an exercise in futility and idiotic. The EVIDENCE of any educational qualification or its EQUIVALENT is the Certificate. Note, we are dealing with Constitution here; hence law. In law Evidence is EVERYTHING. A Court of Law looks at nothing else other than "the evidence before it". For instance, no one doubts that Fashola is a Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN) and this is general Knowledge but if that issue becomes subject of dispute tomorrow, the Court will not rule based on the general and accepted knowledge, or the hysteria on Nairaland, but on the evidence before it, which is the SAN certificate or any other acceptable evidence of the conferment. Even if the Judge was present at the conferment ceremony & witnessed it & saw the certificate being handed over to him but Fashola fails to present acceptable evidence of the certificate DURING THE TRIAL, the Judge is bound to hold that no such evidence of conferment of SAN on Fashola was adduced before it and reach a decision accordingly. In this case the Electoral Act mandates COMPULSORILY that evidence of qualification MUST be shown to INEC within the stipulated time.
(2) The Constitution having prescribed a minimum Qualification, it is the duty of a Candidate to procure evidence before INEC that s/he meets such qualification. It is not the duty of INEC or the Army to enter the arena of conflict and start canvassing whether someone is qualified or not; I am therefore amazed at the mindless curses being rained on INEC & the Army. It is the sole duty of GMB to produce evidence that he meets the minimum requirements; if he does not provide such evidence or procure CREDIBLE evidence why he could not, then the presumption in law is that he does not satisfy the Constitutional requirements to contest the election & so there is the very real danger and possibility of his being disqualified either before or after the election. As an aside, those saying PDP and their supporters should go to Court or go "hug a transformer", etc should know that PDP has gifted strategists; PDP that I know will prefer not to do anything now until the period for substitution of candidates has elapsed, thus leaving APC with no VALID candidate; if they act too soon, APC may recognize the danger, persuade GMB to resign and substitute him with another candidate who can still give PDP a stiff fight.
(3) APC supporters have made several very weak arguments that are childish. They claim that GMB has attended several top Military Schools and courses some of whose certificates are equivalent to Master's Degree. The problem is that GMB did not refer to any of these in his affidavit. What people claim on social media has absolutely no bearing on the evidence required. What GMB said is that ALL his credentials are with the Military Board without even listing what they are. So for all we know it could be only his nusery school certificate or FSLC that is with the Military. He ought to have listed all his qualifications in the Affidavit and specify those which are equivalent to or above the minimum required but that was not done. Whatever he says he has was averred to be with the Military. But the Military has issued a statement denying that they keep the originals of any officers' certificates. They say that what they have is service records and that in any event anyone who wants to obtain a copy of what they have can apply and they would oblige. The BIG question is: if GMB indeed has any certificates in possession of the Military from which he retired about 30 years ago, why did he not apply to have at least the copy? And if they refused to oblige him that fact would be averred in his affidavit? Is it conceivable that anyone submits his originals to his employers & does not have a single copy anywhere at all? Why is it that of all the thousands of other officers that have served and still serving in the Military, it is only GMB whose original certificates were retained by the Military since all others affirm that they have always had theirs? Note also that the Military statement did not refer specifically to GMB; they only spoke in General terms to the effect that: they do not retain any officer's original certificates but that they have service records of all officers and that they can supply copies of WHAT THEY HAVE upon application. So if the required certificates of GMB never existed and is not with the military, how does this statement help GMB? Thus if all they have is FSLC for instance, it is only that copy they can give upon application. It does not also help when GMB's supporters ask how he could have attained all the lofty positions he held and be Head of State if he did not have minimum of School Certificate, etc. A Court does not deal with speculation; that is common knowledge. As stated earlier, a Court is interested only in EVIDENCE. That evidence must first be presented to INEC under the electoral laws not to Nairaland or other body; and so if at the close of the stipulated period, evidence of GMB having attained the minimum qualification is not before INEC, then he is standing on very slippery grounds. I say this in case he has the Certificate but he is holding on to it to produce at his leisure. There are strict legal regulations as to form, whom, when and how the evidence is to be adduced. Don't joke with technicalities of law and believe me, a huge Legal battle is already shaping up and it won't look good for GMB and APC.
(3) Statements by Dr. Abayomi and others on behalf of APC are not helpful; they seem not to appreciate the gravity of the matter. Moreover, the very regrettable analogy of someone who raped a teacher's daughter and thus expelled and stopped from taking the certification exams is very unfortunate on such issue of National importance. Also, Dr. Abayomi's asssertion that certificates are not necessary to prove academic qualifications left me dazed and my jaw hit the floor and stayed there for several minutes. If this is the quality of Legal and other Advice GMB receives, then he is in deep trouble. It is incredible that Dr. Abayomi who claimed that they issued GMB with a Certificate after they screened him to show that he passed the screening exercise now turns around to tell us that certificates are not required under the Law to prove qualification. Maybe that is why they are showing suspicious looking plaques instead of certificates to prove M.Sc degree.
(4) Self deceit is a big problem. Any APC supporter who does not see the looming danger and treat it with the seriousness it deserves is simply living in blissful ignorance.