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olu4life:
Sorry but like I said in previous pages,DJs physical state is not OK one bit. Did u see his pics I uploaded?
So are we now to give up? Cos ur last paragraph is looking like that.

pickabeau1:
Nobody has written off anyone

We spent the last few days identifying a treatment plan which we have tabled to the house

We are saying however we cannot continue on this case

The options are to
A Handover the monies less chemo (which will be paid to d hospital) to his family
They will handle the logistics and ensuring he is available

B. A new team is set up to handle it
This team will be given all d funds

pickabeau1:
Nobody has written off anyone

We spent the last few days identifying a treatment plan which we have tabled to the house

We are saying however we cannot continue on this case

The options are to
A Handover the monies less chemo (which will be paid to d hospital) to his family
They will handle the logistics and ensuring he is available

B. A new team is set up to handle it
This team will be given all d funds

colossus2:
Stop giving conditions and simply handover to his family

olu4life:
The ball is in ur court. Call the shot.

pickabeau1:
Nobody has written off anyone

We spent the last few days identifying a treatment plan which we have tabled to the house

We are saying however we cannot continue on this case

The options are to
A Handover the monies less chemo (which will be paid to d hospital) to his family
They will handle the logistics and ensuring he is available

B. A new team is set up to handle it
This team will be given all d funds

olu4life:
The ball is in ur court. Call the shot.

pickabeau1:
Nobody has written off anyone

We spent the last few days identifying a treatment plan which we have tabled to the house

We are saying however we cannot continue on this case

The options are to
A Handover the monies less chemo (which will be paid to d hospital) to his family
They will handle the logistics and ensuring he is available

B. A new team is set up to handle it
This team will be given all d funds

colossus2:
Stop giving conditions and simply handover to his family

Lateralmaths:
can't believe this. Has TEHN given up on DJ?

sunnshyn:
Well, I think paying the hospital fees for chemo and handing over the rest to DJ's family makes sense at this point. Some people's initial fear was that they(DJ's family) may not go the hospital way. However, If TeHN pays the bills, then his family will just need to coordinate his going and returning for treatment. Makes sense to me..

babyosisi:
To abandon him at the verge of treatment?
This is not the time to high five anybody
Everybody here contributed to that success in cash and in kind
And if we back off now,we have no reason to celebrate
Yes
There is nothing to celebrate at this point all we have is a diagnosis
It is not celebration time yet

tchiwinnie:
Now its very clear how impt/useful Tehn has been.They were abused, bashed etc. They ve made their decision.
Babyosisi mayb u can use this ur vigour to re assemble anoda team to carry on. Members of d team ll b frm among us here, hu hv bn following dis thread.

Originalsly:
Hmmm....so alternative treatment have been ruled out mainly because it is hard to go against the four doctors.Fine.[/b] If we are forging ahead with this 18 week chemo plan....what is the EXPECTED outcome?....and what is this based on?....hope?....theory?...and have they tried this before on other patients with stage 4 or even stage 3 cancer? what were the results and how are they now?.....or is this just an 18 week pain relief treatment? ...referred to as "quality of life?[b]" Shouldn't we know these answers before going down the chemo road? I'm hoping the doctors be asked these questions and be pressed for pointed answers.We can't be passive again.

sexysb:
@ bolded. You are right. They've obviously written him off. Or how can you explain the post below by one of the field workers

r231:
Dear Stakeholders

We would like to invite each and every one of you that has a stake in the “Get DJ back to his feet” project to help decide on way forward with regards to DJ’s treatment plan. We have managed to come up with options for you to consider and we will be capturing your inputs for the next 24hrs so we can finally have a definitive plan on way forward.

 

Recap on where we are at:

DJ has been sick for a long time and unfortunately has ‎now been diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. The oncologist at LCC in conjunction with their colleagues in NY has suggested a targeted form of chemotherapy as a means of ensuring quality of life as cure.

The LCC hospital has come up with a quote (Please see attached image) for DJ’s suggested treatment and they’ve recommended that it’s the best way forward.

Options for you to consider

1)      Continue with the treatment plan at LCC: This is the recommended plan by his doctors as they strongly believe it’s the best way to ensure reduction in pain whilst he maintains reasonable quality of life going forward.
 
He is to undergo a light chemotherapy session for 6 cycles (1 cycle every 3 weeks for 18 weeks).
 
The cost implication for the proposed treatment plan for the entire 18 weeks is a little over a million (We expect to have some reduction as some of the tests wouldn’t be repeated for each cycle)
 
2)      Use a cheaper public hospital as an alternative to option 1:   TeHN has already investigated this option before drafting this option paper. Our field worker alongside DJ went to LUTH today (26/01/2015) to investigate the possibility of DJ having his chemo sessions at the hospital.
 
Challenges:
a)       LUTH will require referral from his prior hospital before he can be considered for the proposed treatment
b)      They are currently impeded by the ongoing strike hence why they can only consult at this point in time
c)       He might need to redo some of the tests and this will certainly incur more costs and in turn further deplete the already tight budget
 
3)      Investigate the alternative treatment option as suggested on this thread: There are various challenges that will be faced with this option
a)      Time – DJ is still very sick and we don’t think it’s in his best interest to try alternative treatments when there are obvious outside factors such as environment factors, availability of emergency services should in case things turns sour
b)      Resources – We simply don’t have the capacity to support this option
c)       It’s also hard to go against recommendations  made by 4 medical experts that have looked at his case at various times
 
4)      Re-visit overseas treatment option – TeHN is of the believe that there isn’t much to gain from this option if as suspected the case is at stage 4 and the only effective treatment option is targeted chemotherapy to the affected regions
 
Challenges:
a)      Money – We simply don’t have a blank cheque and as such have to be practical before uprooting him into an unknown territory. As expected, if the minimum period required for his treatment is 18 weeks, we will have to provide financial support sufficient enough for them to survive for the entire period alongside whatever cost the treatment will incur
b)       Support – Support might not be readily available in a foreign land should In case things doesn’t go as planned

 

Lastly, TeHN would like to take a step back as we simply don’t have the resource to continue to help manage the case going forward.  In light of this, we would also like you to consider and endorse your preferred choice on how the case is managed going forward

Option A
To delegate all responsibility to DJ’s brother – DJ’s brother has been extremely helpful all through the way and he is conversant with all processes as well as locations.
TeHN would transfer the remaining budget to DJ’s family and whatever support we might have as a group will be provided as individuals as of when needed
 
Option B
NLers to come up with a dedicated project team that’s capable of moving the project forward - 
TeHN would be able to provide mechanism for funds collection and disbursement with this option but our involvement will be restricted to that alone
 
 
We would like to thank each and every one for their support.
 

TeHN

babyosisi:
The story is changing
To nu ja
This is not what they said initially
Nobody would have had any qualms if that was what they said
I am following keenly

Originalsly:
@OAMJ4.....tbe bolded is the part I am asking to be addressed.

sunnshyn:
Well, I think paying the hospital fees for chemo and handing over the rest to DJ's family makes sense at this point. Some people's initial fear was that they(DJ's family) may not go the hospital way. However, If TeHN pays the bills, then his family will just need to coordinate his going and returning for treatment. Makes sense to me..

pickabeau1:
The story is not changing

Paying the hospital is a transaction

Themaingate:
THAT THEY DECIDED TO BACK OUT IS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE TO ME BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE BACK OUT AS FAR BACK AS NOVEMBER WHEN WE ALREADY NEW IT WAS CANCER BUT THEY CATEGORICALLY TOLD US THEY TRUST THE DOCTOR AND WOULD TREAT TB ALONE FOR NOW PENDING OTHER TEST. WHEN DO WE BEGIN TO ASSEMBLE A NEW TEAM WHEN THEY HAVE INFORMATION AND REFUSE TO SHARE ALL IN THE NAME THAT DJ IS ONLINE SEEING POST , SO DJ IS NOT ONLINE SEEING IT THAT THEY WANT TO ABANDON HIM NOW ? CLUELESS PEOPLE

HOW CAN A PATIENT BE DIAGNOSE OF CANCER YET WE DONT KNOW WHAT TYPE OF CANCER WE ARE DEALING WITH , I PERSONALLY GOT A CALL FROM HCG INDIA THAT ONE OF THEIR DOCTOR IS IN LAGOS AND WILL LIKE TO SEE DJ FREE OF CHARGE BUT THIS TEHN GUYS REFUSED AND EVEN CALLED ME HCG SALES REP

NOW THEY WANT TO BACK OUT

sunnshyn:
Well, I think paying the hospital fees for chemo and handing over the rest to DJ's family makes sense at this point. Some people's initial fear was that they(DJ's family) may not go the hospital way. However, If TeHN pays the bills, then his family will just need to coordinate his going and returning for treatment. Makes sense to me..

coogar:
can we make caracta the field worker for DJ-dola?

pickabeau1:
All information will be shared with the new team

Lateralmaths:
There will be no new team.

rayo2002:
Bros please calm down,its talk like this that got us here. They have gotten to treatment stage and I hope the brother can take him for treatment when needed as TeHN keeps control of the purse. It's not easy to sit at someone's bedside for close to a year cos his chemo treatment will finish in May. Make una take am easy


This kind of talk and cursing won't even encourage anyone else to volunteer their time again. We make plans and they change all we can do is look for a way forward.

Themaingate:
CALM DOWN FOR WHAT ?

IS LIKE YOU HAVE NOT BEING FOLLOWING US FROM THE BEGINNING

THIS IS THE PLAN B OF TEHN

NOTHING MORE

pickabeau1:
If she or anyone is able to handle the duties that will be very good
However a team to coordinate activities still beefs to be set up

colossus2:
Pay what bills?
How does it make sense?
If the family request for 1million to carry out operation "a", tehn pays the bill right?
Tomorrow they ask for 30k, tehn pays right?
Next week they ask for 5naira, then tehn says no money in the purse again.
So where is the sense here?