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agaugust:
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Nigerian military has finally confirmed it.... Butt Hurt South Africans

SANDF is 20 years far behind NA and NAF in drone capability

SANDF is out-dated....and broke too


"Some drones and other sophisticated equipment have been deployed in the Northeast to curtail Boko Haram’s insurgency, The Nation learnt yesterday.

The acquisition of the drones is part of the new massive Nigerian military campaign to be launched soon against Boko Haram.

The source said the arrival of the hardware has boosted the morale of troops.

The source said: “The Nigerian military has deployed some drones and sophisticated hardware in the North-East in line with its timeline to end Boko Haram insurgency.

These drones will complement ongoing air and land strikes against some bases of the sect.

The simultaneous attacks on Monguno, Konduga and Maiduguri by Boko Haram insurgents were pre-emptive steps against the military by the sect.

With effective equipment, the insurgents were aware that the game is up and in annoyance, they decided to attack military installations and troops."

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/military-deploys-drones-battle-boko-haram/[/size]

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Beware of China, it will suck your blood dry. If you want the most effective and efficient stealth drones just come to SA and place your order. We are very honest at making business, but please don't try to come at the back door like you did in the past.

Henry120:
2012 defence review is now the 2015 defence review. Same thing with your 1996 project biro, this is 2015

Let's do the maths.

2050 - 2012 = 35 years.

you still got time.

Oh wow, just as long as the minimum time Nigeria needs to get to SA's level of development!

I like your "math". I like it very much!

Patchesagain:
Did armscore make the cannon?

The original cannon is manual, it never fires by itself, and never killed it's owner in world history as it never fires by itself.

AMSCOR made the automatic device to add on and change the cannon from manual to automatic, the automatic device was crappy bad faulty piece of junk, so it automatically turned the cannon and fired automatically and uncontrollably on it's own masters the SANDF and massacred all your Soldiers in broad day light....Chinese are better than you
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Patchesagain:
Equipment malfunctions from time to time no reason to say that everything we make is garbage

Good to see you admit the Chinese drone is just like any other equipment that can malfunction, good to see you humbled
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agaugust:
#Show Us Armed Drone In SANDF Service
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Here are some of the few.

agaugust:
The original cannon is manual, it never fires by itself, and never killed it's owner in world history as it never fires by itself.

AMSCOR made the automatic device to add on and change the cannon from manual to automatic, the automatic device was crappy bad faulty piece of junk, so it automatically turned the cannon and fired automatically and uncontrollably on it's own masters the SANDF and massacred all your Soldiers in broad day light....Chinese are better than you
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Actually one did. Resulted no deaths. But it happened. The problem was found but apartheid SA was never told.

agaugust:
Good to see you admit the Chinese drone is just like any other equipment that can malfunction, good to see you humbled
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Your skull is crashed that's why your government secretly contracted SA mercenaries to train your army.

NaijaPikinGidi:
There are no foreign boots ... African, American, European, or Asian on the grounds here, whether national military or mercenary forces! That is a fact that your news agencies cannot twist! I am wondering what South Africa's fixation is with regards to Nigeria! Sad that while the NA is tasting military action and growing our COIN capabilities ... all you can show is well choreographed military photos?

I leave you with this ... from your source:

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When contacted yesterday, the Nigeria Defence spokesman Major General Chris Olukolade said, "It is well known that terrorism being an international and trans/cross border menace calls for the involvement of all well meaning countries all over the world."

He added that: "In this case I'm only aware of partner countries whose activities have been mainly in the form exchange of ideas and support to ongoing training activities."

Olukolade also said: "The conduct of Nigeria's counter terrorism campaign remains exclusively an all Nigerian troops affairs. This is the much I know and can discuss."


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http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201501281248.html/

Nigerian army alone is fighting Nigeria`s war !
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agaugust:
Nigerian army alone is fighting Nigeria`s war !
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So, you have now contracted SA mercenaries to do the job that you can't do like the Americans.

agaugust:
SAN has only one Frigate alive. Others are dead

If they are undergoing duties related to their service how are they dead?

Nigeria has no missile armed frigates alive

Who has the strongest navy in sub-Saharan Africa?

agaugust:
Your navy has ONLY ONE FRIGATE for war today. Finish and Klaar !

We have 4 frigates for war

agaugust:
The whole world sees and says it. Taliban still controls 50% of Afghanistan...USA/UK military disgraced now in retreat and withdrawal.

You don't claim victory when your enemy controls 50% of the land you were defending.
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Taliban only controlls 4 districts out of 373
http://www.cfr.org/afghanistan/taliban-afghanistan/p10551

NATO won

Its time for the Afghan army to fight its own war

agaugust:
DENEL is NOT an army.

DENEL is NOT = SANDF.

Same way DICON is NOT = Nigerian army.

No equipment inside a manufacturing company's warehouse is counted by military ranking sources as army arsenal equipment.

Only what you buy and pay for and put in arsenal somewhere is counted by sources like Global Firepower, Global Security, etc. No military source goes inside commercial manufacturing companies and count weapons in the laboratory or warehouse and add it to a nations army orbat arsenal, or else the USA, Russia, UK, China will have much more than what is listed for their military on Global Firepower rankings, there are hundreds of new weapons worldwide that Super Powers have developed in defence industries but not yet entered service in their armed forces arsenal.

All SANDF has is the catapult launched unarmed simple Vulture drone with 200 km range, Nigeria is far superior to you with our CH-3 drone with 2,400 km range plus 10km range guided missiles and 5km range guided bombs. SANDF is 20 years far behind NAF drone capability !

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/sandf-to-receive-first-unmanned-air-vehicle-later-this-year-2004-03-26

SANDF has NO armed drone.....okay show me one armed drone in SANDF use with your soldiers
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Denel is owned by the state

SANDF is run by the state

During the border war experimental Armscore (Denel) weapons were used in multiple battles - long before they entered SADF service

And no, you dont have said drone - one crashed in a country inhabited by black people. That is all the photographs show us.

agaugust:
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Nigerian military has finally confirmed it.... Butt Hurt South Africans

SANDF is 20 years far behind NA and NAF in drone capability

SANDF is out-dated....and broke too


"Some drones and other sophisticated equipment have been deployed in the Northeast to curtail Boko Haram’s insurgency, The Nation learnt yesterday.

The acquisition of the drones is part of the new massive Nigerian military campaign to be launched soon against Boko Haram.

The source said the arrival of the hardware has boosted the morale of troops.

The source said: “The Nigerian military has deployed some drones and sophisticated hardware in the North-East in line with its timeline to end Boko Haram insurgency.

These drones will complement ongoing air and land strikes against some bases of the sect.

The simultaneous attacks on Monguno, Konduga and Maiduguri by Boko Haram insurgents were pre-emptive steps against the military by the sect.

With effective equipment, the insurgents were aware that the game is up and in annoyance, they decided to attack military installations and troops."

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/military-deploys-drones-battle-boko-haram/[/size]

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Show us where it says you have a MALE drone

agaugust:
#Show Us Armed Drone In SANDF Service
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Show us armed drone in Nigerian service

mzilakazi:
[size=15]Ex South African troops are training Nigerian military.[/size]

http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201501281248.html/

Thiza:
FINALLY THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST.....FORMER SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES ARE TRAINING THE SO CALLED BEST MILITARY POWER IN AFRICA.....WE HAVE BEEN SAYING SO FOR THE LASY 4 YEARS THAT NIGERIA IS NOTHING BUT A GIANT WITH CLAY FEET AND IT HAD TO BE PROVEN BY RAG TAG BOKO HARAM.

THE EX-RECCES ARE ALSO HELPING TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL FORCES BRIGADE OF THE NIGERIAN ARMY ALONG THE LINES OF THE SOUTH AFRICA....ALSO WITHIN THE GROUP ARE FORMER MEMBERS OF THE POLICE SPECIAL TASK FORCE WHO ARE HELPING TRAIN NIGERIAN POLICE ALONG THE LINES OF SOUTH AFRICA....

@augustus seems to be quite on this matter

mzilakazi:
Your Olukulade is telling lies as usual. SA intelligence has a list of names of ex soldiers who jetted out of the country to Nigeria.

So why is your own South African source not telling lies? SANDF has denied knowledge of it, and Nigerian army has denied knowledge of it

"The SA National Defence Force on Monday said it was unaware of former South African soldiers being deployed to Nigeria to help destroy terrorist group Boko Haram.

"I do not know where Beeld gets this thing from. Ask them," SANDF spokesman Siphiwe Dlamini said.

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2015/01/27/sandf-unaware-of-soldiers-in-nigeria


"When contacted yesterday, the Nigeria Defence spokesman Major General Chris Olukolade said, "It is well known that terrorism being an international and trans/cross border menace calls for the involvement of all well meaning countries all over the world."

He added that: "In this case I'm only aware of partner countries whose activities have been mainly in the form exchange of ideas and support to ongoing training activities."

Olukolade also said: "The conduct of Nigeria's counter terrorism campaign remains exclusively an all Nigerian troops affairs. This is the much I know and can discuss."

http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201501281248.html/

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agaugust:
The original cannon is manual, it never fires by itself, and never killed it's owner in world history as it never fires by itself.

AMSCOR made the automatic device to add on and change the cannon from manual to automatic, the automatic device was crappy bad faulty piece of junk, so it automatically turned the cannon and fired automatically and uncontrollably on it's own masters the SANDF and massacred all your Soldiers in broad day light....Chinese are better than you
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So a weapon that has been used thousands of times malfunctions once and now it is junk?

Cool story

Fact remains

We are better than you

And that is what counts

agaugust:
Good to see you admit the Chinese drone is just like any other equipment that can malfunction, good to see you humbled
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How have I been humbled?

agaugust:
Nigerian army alone is fighting Nigeria`s war !
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And losing

Your hubris is what stands between you and victory

Cameroon cares more about its people than its image, and as such Africa will rise up and assist the people of Cameroon.

Nigeria is too proud, and because of this, Nigeria will continue to burn.

agaugust:
"When contacted yesterday, the Nigeria Defence spokesman Major General Chris Olukolade said, "It is well known that terrorism being an international and trans/cross border menace calls for the involvement of all well meaning countries all over the world."

He added that: "In this case I'm only aware of partner countries whose activities have been mainly in the form exchange of ideas and support to ongoing training activities."

Olukolade also said: "The conduct of Nigeria's counter terrorism campaign remains exclusively an all Nigerian troops affairs. This is the much I know and can discuss."

http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201501281248.html/

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Nigerian army confirms it - see the part i have boldened

mzilakazi:
Nigerian troops are trained by the elites who trained US special forces, teaching them how to survive on harsh conditions. The mighty SA special force brigade.


http://www.secretsofsurvival.com/survival/special-forces-survival-training.html


@agaugust just bury your head on the sand.

No, you should bury your whole body in the sand !

Your story is denied, but this other own story is confirmed and South Africa is NOT denying it.....


[size=16pt]Nigerian Army Trains Current South African Officers In COIN war combat ![/size]



Jaji (Kaduna), NIGERIA - A total of 103 counter insurgency operatives from Nigeria and nine other African countries have concluded a four-week intensive training on internal security.


Graduation of Basic Counter-Terrorism Course for soldiers of the 70th Regular intake in Jaji

The training, which was held at the Armed Forces Command and Staff College, Jaji, Kaduna State, drew participants from 11 agencies and organisations, as well as Senior Course 36 of the college. Other participants were from South Africa ,Togo, Cameroon, Gambia, Burkina Faso, Benin Republic, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Ghana.


The Commandant of the college, Air Vice Marshal John Ifemije, said on Friday at the close of the training that it was meant to enhance the preparedness of the personnel in confronting internal security challenges. He noted that "dealing with complex security challenges these days goes beyond the conventional techniques.


Ifemije urged the participants to use the knowledge gained from the training to strengthen inter agency cooperation, share information and intelligence, adhere to rules of engagement and to seek for the intervention of the military whenever necessary. The commandant commended them on their conduct throughout the exercise and urged them to remain committed to their responsibilities.


Earlier, the Director, Department of Joint Studies of the college, Brig-Gen. Benjamin Ahanato said the training code named 'EX HASKE BIYU,' was the participants to value "joint consultation, sharing of information and freedom of action."

He described the training as "a huge success," and urged them to use the knowledge gained to ensure peace and stability in Nigeria.

(NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA)

http://www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8196:college-trains-103-counter-insurgency-operatives-from-nigeria-9-other-countries&catid=48:political-news&Itemid=29

Nigeria trains South Africa alongside Togo Republic in COIN way in the same Nigerian Army College, students of SANDF + Togolese Army + Cameroon`s cowardly army that is begging Chad for help !


[size=16pt] GAME OVER !!! [/size]

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patches689:
Nigerian army confirms it - see the part i have boldened

Did he say South African ex-recces ? No !

For many years now, Nigerian army trains in COIN war with Israel and Pakistan, and newly Russia and China.

Show us where the Nigerian army official mentioned the name of anything South Africa, show us !
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agaugust:
No, you should bury your whole body in the sand !

Your story is denied, but this other own story is confirmed and South Africa is NOT denying it.....


[size=16pt]Nigerian Army Trains Current South African Officers In COIN war combat ![/size]



Jaji (Kaduna), NIGERIA - A total of 103 counter insurgency operatives from Nigeria and nine other African countries have concluded a four-week intensive training on internal security.


Graduation of Basic Counter-Terrorism Course for soldiers of the 70th Regular intake in Jaji

The training, which was held at the Armed Forces Command and Staff College, Jaji, Kaduna State, drew participants from 11 agencies and organisations, as well as Senior Course 36 of the college. Other participants were from South Africa ,Togo, Cameroon, Gambia, Burkina Faso, Benin Republic, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Ghana.


The Commandant of the college, Air Vice Marshal John Ifemije, said on Friday at the close of the training that it was meant to enhance the preparedness of the personnel in confronting internal security challenges. He noted that "dealing with complex security challenges these days goes beyond the conventional techniques.


Ifemije urged the participants to use the knowledge gained from the training to strengthen inter agency cooperation, share information and intelligence, adhere to rules of engagement and to seek for the intervention of the military whenever necessary. The commandant commended them on their conduct throughout the exercise and urged them to remain committed to their responsibilities.


Earlier, the Director, Department of Joint Studies of the college, Brig-Gen. Benjamin Ahanato said the training code named 'EX HASKE BIYU,' was the participants to value "joint consultation, sharing of information and freedom of action."

He described the training as "a huge success," and urged them to use the knowledge gained to ensure peace and stability in Nigeria.

(NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA)

http://www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8196:college-trains-103-counter-insurgency-operatives-from-nigeria-9-other-countries&catid=48:political-news&Itemid=29

Nigeria trains South Africa alongside Togo Republic in COIN way in the same Nigerian Army College, students of SANDF + Togolese Army + Cameroon`s cowardly army that is begging Chad for help !


[size=16pt] GAME OVER !!! [/size]

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It simply says taht South Africans were present

- it doesnt say SANDF
- it doesnt say in what capacity (students or instructors)

agaugust:
Did he say South African ex-recces ? No !

For many years now, Nigerian army trains in COIN war with Israel and Pakistan, and newly Russia and China.

Show us where the Nigerian army official mentioned the name of anything South Africa, show us !
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Its been posted

Your army admits foreigners are training your men

1+1=2

patches689:
Its been posted

Your army admits foreigners are training your men

1+1=2

We always known that. It isn't news that Americans, Pakistanis and Israelis have always been in Nigeria.

An emotional article from a paper seeking relevance.

Fail!!!

DieVluit:
Dude you can't talk about people being murdered in SA if water shortages have killed more people than BH in Nigeria.

Nigerians have clean bore holes for water, and every LGA has water tap pumps for public use. Very few die from water drinking issues.

You want to insult Nigeria, but your own South Africa is a shiiit hole of premature death per minute per minute !

Death is cheap and for free in South Africa, not only murder, even driving on South African roads is the way to an early grave, Christmas season just last month over 1,300 Southies died in 30 days driving on your death trap roads


1,376 die on SA roads over festive season

2014-01-09

Pretoria - A total of 1,376 people were killed on South Africa's roads during the festive season, Transport Minister Dipuo Peters said in Pretoria on Thursday.

She was releasing the preliminary festive season road death statistics for the period 1 December 2013 to 7 January 2014.

"For the period under review, there were 1 147 crashes nationally with 1 376 fatalities (Deaths)," she said

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/1-276-die-on-SA-roads-over-festive-season-20140109
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mzilakazi:
Dummy!!! what do you understand about clandestine operations? Of course should they ever come out about it they would be compromising security of their mercenaries. However, Olukulade made a mistake by admitting that they receive help from foreign countries.

Nigeria just signed new COIN training agreement with Russia and China, NOT South Africa

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/terrorism-1200-nigerian-security-personnel-leave-russia/
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agaugust:
No, you should bury your whole body in the sand !

Your story is denied, but this other own story is confirmed and South Africa is NOT denying it.....


[size=16pt]Nigerian Army Trains Current South African Officers In COIN war combat ![/size]



Jaji (Kaduna), NIGERIA - A total of 103 counter insurgency operatives from Nigeria and nine other African countries have concluded a four-week intensive training on internal security.


Graduation of Basic Counter-Terrorism Course for soldiers of the 70th Regular intake in Jaji

The training, which was held at the Armed Forces Command and Staff College, Jaji, Kaduna State, drew participants from 11 agencies and organisations, as well as Senior Course 36 of the college. Other participants were from South Africa ,Togo, Cameroon, Gambia, Burkina Faso, Benin Republic, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Ghana.


The Commandant of the college, Air Vice Marshal John Ifemije, said on Friday at the close of the training that it was meant to enhance the preparedness of the personnel in confronting internal security challenges. He noted that "dealing with complex security challenges these days goes beyond the conventional techniques.


Ifemije urged the participants to use the knowledge gained from the training to strengthen inter agency cooperation, share information and intelligence, adhere to rules of engagement and to seek for the intervention of the military whenever necessary. The commandant commended them on their conduct throughout the exercise and urged them to remain committed to their responsibilities.


Earlier, the Director, Department of Joint Studies of the college, Brig-Gen. Benjamin Ahanato said the training code named 'EX HASKE BIYU,' was the participants to value "joint consultation, sharing of information and freedom of action."

He described the training as "a huge success," and urged them to use the knowledge gained to ensure peace and stability in Nigeria.

(NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA)

http://www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8196:college-trains-103-counter-insurgency-operatives-from-nigeria-9-other-countries&catid=48:political-news&Itemid=29

Nigeria trains South Africa alongside Togo Republic in COIN way in the same Nigerian Army College, students of SANDF + Togolese Army + Cameroon`s cowardly army that is begging Chad for help !


[size=16pt] GAME OVER !!! [/size]

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Shut up!!! @agau, your soldiers are currently heavily trained by South Africans as we speak.

agaugust:
No, you should bury your whole body in the sand !

Your story is denied, but this other own story is confirmed and South Africa is NOT denying it.....


[size=16pt]Nigerian Army Trains Current South African Officers In COIN war combat ![/size]



Jaji (Kaduna), NIGERIA - A total of 103 counter insurgency operatives from Nigeria and nine other African countries have concluded a four-week intensive training on internal security.


Graduation of Basic Counter-Terrorism Course for soldiers of the 70th Regular intake in Jaji

The training, which was held at the Armed Forces Command and Staff College, Jaji, Kaduna State, drew participants from 11 agencies and organisations, as well as Senior Course 36 of the college. Other participants were from South Africa ,Togo, Cameroon, Gambia, Burkina Faso, Benin Republic, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Ghana.


The Commandant of the college, Air Vice Marshal John Ifemije, said on Friday at the close of the training that it was meant to enhance the preparedness of the personnel in confronting internal security challenges. He noted that "dealing with complex security challenges these days goes beyond the conventional techniques.


Ifemije urged the participants to use the knowledge gained from the training to strengthen inter agency cooperation, share information and intelligence, adhere to rules of engagement and to seek for the intervention of the military whenever necessary. The commandant commended them on their conduct throughout the exercise and urged them to remain committed to their responsibilities.


Earlier, the Director, Department of Joint Studies of the college, Brig-Gen. Benjamin Ahanato said the training code named 'EX HASKE BIYU,' was the participants to value "joint consultation, sharing of information and freedom of action."

He described the training as "a huge success," and urged them to use the knowledge gained to ensure peace and stability in Nigeria.

(NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA)

http://www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8196:college-trains-103-counter-insurgency-operatives-from-nigeria-9-other-countries&catid=48:political-news&Itemid=29

Nigeria trains South Africa alongside Togo Republic in COIN way in the same Nigerian Army College, students of SANDF + Togolese Army + Cameroon`s cowardly army that is begging Chad for help !


[size=16pt] GAME OVER !!! [/size]

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Old news. Yes some one from south Africa was there. We go to a lot of events all over the world. But that is not training us in in any thing. South Africa trained the Dec army. By that I mean we trained 3000+ solders from there in one year.

A Nigerian sailor was in south Africa 2 years ago for damage control, fire fighting, sea survival and CBRND training. One guy. Did we train the Nigerian navy? No a Nigerian came to see how we do it. I know people that did the same training in Germany. Did Germany train south Africa? No some guys from sa went to Germany for a course. Even cape verda sends people to train in other countries. I spoke to cape verda solder who trained in France.

agaugust:
Nigerians have clean bore holes for water, and every LGA has water tap pumps for public use. Very few die from water drinking issues.

You want to insult Nigeria, but your own South Africa is a shiiit hole of premature death per minute per minute !

Death is cheap and for free in South Africa, not only murder, even driving on South African roads is the way to an early grave, Christmas season just last month over 1,300 Southies died in 30 days driving on your death trap roads


1,376 die on SA roads over festive season

2014-01-09

Pretoria - A total of 1,376 people were killed on South Africa's roads during the festive season, Transport Minister Dipuo Peters said in Pretoria on Thursday.

She was releasing the preliminary festive season road death statistics for the period 1 December 2013 to 7 January 2014.

"For the period under review, there were 1 147 crashes nationally with 1 376 fatalities (Deaths)," she said

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/1-276-die-on-SA-roads-over-festive-season-20140109
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Does Nigeria even keep proper record of murders, road deaths and rapes. He'll do you even have had many cars has us.

andrewza:
Old news. Yes some one from south Africa was there. We go to a lot of events all over the world. But that is not training us in in any thing. South Africa trained the Dec army. By that I mean we trained 3000+ solders from there in one year.

A Nigerian sailor was in south Africa 2 years ago for damage control, fire fighting, sea survival and CBRND training. One guy. Did we train the Nigerian navy? No a Nigerian came to see how we do it. I know people that did the same training in Germany. Did Germany train south Africa? No some guys from sa went to Germany for a course. Even cape verda sends people to train in other countries. I spoke to cape verda solder who trained in France.

That was rather a course. Hehehehehe…

mzilakazi:
President Bush hired over 10 000 SA military experts.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/07/395047/-Bush-Hired-10-000-South-African-Apartheid-Mercenaries-For-Iraq

Your own source says US hired mercenaries from many countries, not only South Africa, and it includes mercenaries from Fiji and Colombia, if a tiny Fiji Island Nation is ranked along with South Africa....Yiu should bury your head in the sand of shame


"US tax dollars aren't just going to South AFrican killers. They're going to mercenaries from Fiji, Nepal, Colombia and who knows where else.

Indeed, While Fiji, Nepal, Colombia and other nations supply large contingents of guards to the U.S. war effort somewhat openly"
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