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Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Fourwinds: 10:14pm On Feb 01, 2015
acidtalk:
Small businesses are packing up like say tomorrow no dey. The bad hit are those Bank contractors who handle their legal, construction, security, out sourcing and others.

I don't want to mention the 3 major banks that will be mostly hit so as not to create panic




January 17th I mentioned on a thread of 5 PDP governors who will decamp to APC at the last minute. 2weeks later a newspaper reported it. I TRY TO BE FACTUAL AND SPEAK WITH UTMOST FACT.
I hope dis will not lead to people being sent back to deir village after work done finish. dis country is on a long thing. I keep saying dat our government is autodrive and dey are not telling us d truth.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Nobody: 10:17pm On Feb 01, 2015
acidtalk:
I won't debate with you because I can sense you are quite myopic.

Which yeye oil? Even if oil reaches $200/ barrel GEJ and his team of economist have ruined and still ruining the economy.

When you unborn great grand children have to pay for a debt this administration is inviting it will be too late and sad then.

The problem with clueless people is that they base Nigeria's economy strength and sickness solely on the global oil price which is NOT SO.
he has already sold us to the chinese for a pittance

nigeria has taken loans from china for some low grade infrastructure that was built by the same chinese who gave the loan - so money which should have gone into our economy has gone right back into their economy - jona has sold us into slavery for next to nothing
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by obayaya(m): 10:17pm On Feb 01, 2015
barcanista:
Okonjo Iwaela is an overrated economist. All her economic policies makes me to question the kind of training that she received in Havard. I wonder whether her Phd was really earned or it is just another Chieftancy title (Like her Oga). She's a flop, though Soludo also flopped as CBN boss. I can't wait to see her return to World Bank, she will not be missed!!! Good riddance..
Your inept reasoning and lack of conviction makes me wonder if you really earned your degree.. But I know better!!!

I know you do not have one just like your boss Buhari
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by acidtalk: 10:17pm On Feb 01, 2015
oyb:
okijajuju is in total and he has said the same thing

i am in a downstream major, and we just finished round one of downsizing.

no guarantee there won't be more to follow
From Marine and Shipping, Commodities, Oil and Gas, Banking and Insurance, Manufacturing and Construction. No one will be spared. But you know the truth? Banking will be the most affected because the government will put so much pressure to award loans and facilities to those Industry to help most of them going extinct. By so doing, banks will need to keep cutting cost to stay in a supposed "good state" and the major way out is to downsize.


If people like they should still be sentimental on ethnic and religious line, when it happens, ONLY THE TOUGHTEST WILL SURVIVE.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by wirinet(m): 10:19pm On Feb 01, 2015
I hereby challenge your attempt to blame others for not saving for the rainy day. It is not a virtue when you are quick to appropriate all the credit when things are going well, but shift the blame when they go wrong. You blame the state governors— who, according to you, have taken the Federal Government to the Supreme Court—not that a Supreme Court judgment forced your hands. For your information, the governors have never agreed to savings and always threatened court action even under Obasanjo. Why did we save under Obasanjo but not under Jonathan? Two keywords explain it: leadership and integrity. Governor Amaechi said the governors insisted on sharing the funds because they found out that you were illegally fiddling with the savings. So, as Nigerians still wonder, if billions of dollars are now ‘missing’ under your nose, why should governors trust you to keep their money? Do the states that have taken the federal government to the Supreme Court and refused to save also include the PDP governors—who are in the majority? If so, then it is fatal: even governors of your own party, PDP, do not trust you to keep their money! Furthermore, did the governors also stop the Federal Government from saving part of its share? If you ran a surplus budget at the Federal level, you would have had credibility to blame others or to say they did not listen to your advice. The key point is that since you were running huge deficits yourself, it was also in your own interest to share the ECA. You did not show leadership or credibility, full stop! - See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/02/ngozi-okonjo-iweala-missing-trillions-1-charles-soludo/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter#sthash.d3mC7iHd.dpuf
Touche!!!!
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Sammiejokes(m): 10:20pm On Feb 01, 2015
I can't wait to see the debate put forward by soludo before 12th of febuary, channels tv make dz happen, this is what the youths need to make the right decisions. Kilode have not been following soludo but chai after reading his latest articles, damn the prof is too intelligent kilode, God I ask for such depth.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by mrmetoo1: 10:20pm On Feb 01, 2015
acidtalk:
Small businesses are packing up like say tomorrow no dey. The bad hit are those Bank contractors who handle their legal, construction, security, out sourcing and others.

I don't want to mention the 3 major banks that will be mostly hit so as not to create panic




January 17th I mentioned on a thread of 5 PDP governors who will decamp to APC at the last minute. 2weeks later a newspaper reported it. I TRY TO BE FACTUAL AND SPEAK WITH UTMOST FACT.
Please what banks? Nairaland is only a microcosm of the population, so the panic won't be so widespread.. lol
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Nobody: 10:22pm On Feb 01, 2015
mrmetoo1:
Please what banks? Nairaland is only a microcosm of the population, so the panic won't be so widespread.. lol
Zenith, First bank and Diamond Bank is what i foresee. GTB is already staggering as we speak
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by acidtalk: 10:23pm On Feb 01, 2015
Fourwinds:
I hope dis will not lead to people being sent back to deir village after work done finish. dis country is on a long thing. I keep saying dat our government is autodrive and dey are not telling us d truth.
No you won't go back to your village if you are strongwilled.

I created a thread yesterday which you should checkout.

WHY YOU SHOULD REJECT YOUR NEXT SALES JOB.

https://www.nairaland.com/2123224/why-shouldnt-reject-next-sales


That's one profession which doctors and architects will eventually fight for ( may God never let it get that bad).
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Nobody: 10:24pm On Feb 01, 2015
This is such a time when people would actually carry out mass withdrawals and divert their monies to something a lot more stable like landed property or even keeping their money at home or running offshore accounts. We are in a quagmire.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by dondo83(m): 10:25pm On Feb 01, 2015
tit:
Soludo was in PDP for ten years!
What did he achieve?
nothing.
Instead he left Nigerians with a 16 trillion naira debt.
which was paid for by the AMCON sovereign wealth fund.
I doubt if you were Out of secondary school then but if not for recapitalisation by soludo, banks were like micro finance in those days. They open for 2 years steal people's money and fold up. 2 he just mentioned that during his tenure inflation was single digit and yet you ask what he achieved? Were you expecting him to tar roads or build hospitals?
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by acidtalk: 10:25pm On Feb 01, 2015
naijadeyhia:
Zenith, First bank and Diamond Bank is what i foresee. GTB is already staggering as we speak
One of the above is amongst the 3
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by 989900: 10:26pm On Feb 01, 2015
oyb:
he has already sold us to the chinese for a pittance

nigeria has taken loans from china for some low grade infrastructure that was built by the same chinese who gave the loan - so money which should have gone into our economy has gone right back into their economy - jona has sold us into slavery for next to nothing
#1chance
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by emmatok(m): 10:26pm On Feb 01, 2015
Let me put on record that Nigeria would have secured debt relief under anyone as Minister of Finance. President Obasanjo secured debt relief for Nigeria. Much of his first term was used to get Nigeria back into the international community and to campaign for debt relief. Before you were sworn in as Minister of Finance, President Bush visited Nigeria and both of us accompanied President Obasanjo during the meeting. There, Mr. Bush promised to support Nigeria with debt relief and asked our president to ensure that he met the conditions of the Paris Club. Obasanjo mobilized the global political support and coordinated all of us to ensure that the government met the check-list of ‘conditionalities’ as required.
FINAL BLOW
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by acidtalk: 10:28pm On Feb 01, 2015
naijadeyhia:
Zenith, First bank and Diamond Bank is what i foresee. GTB is already staggering as we speak
one of the above is amongst the 3.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by youngalex(m): 10:28pm On Feb 01, 2015
acidtalk:
I want to believe well over 90% of people working in this forum are employees. You all should keep letting sentiments becloud your reasoning.

NIGERIA ECONOMY IS IN A COMA.

By June this year if nothing critical is done over 30% of employees cut across ALL sector most especially government workers, bankers, oil and gas as well as manufacturing will be out of work.

THREE "BIG" BANKS ARE GOING TO DOWNSIZE SERIOUSLY IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ELECTION.

You all should remember this and quote me in less than 3 months from now.
Thank you for saying the truth,there is need for urgent diversification of the economy in the areas of agriculture and manufacturing,else we re in grave danger
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by RayCharles(m): 10:29pm On Feb 01, 2015
ayukdaboss:
It is going to be very unfair if that Report is not released before the elections. I mean, that is money that would have provided Nigeria with 2 dams producing almost 8,000MW each with little change remaining...yet we are struggling with 3000MW.
You are wrong. The biggest dam in the world (Yangtze Three Gorges Project) China cost almost the same amount stolen and it generate 22,500MW Purpose status: Power, flood control, navigation Operational. Imagine what dis dam will do for the economy
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Xslaze3xd(m): 10:29pm On Feb 01, 2015
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by acidtalk: 10:29pm On Feb 01, 2015
naijadeyhia:
This is such a time when people would actually carry out mass withdrawals and divert their monies to something a lot more stable like landed property or even keeping their money at home or running offshore accounts. We are in a quagmire.
Land prices will equally drop but it will favour the buyers.


Can I advice every MATURE and responsible person out there?
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by EagleNest(m): 10:30pm On Feb 01, 2015
I'm on the side of Prof. I never believe in NOI again since the subsidy episode. She let me down.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by asha80(m): 10:32pm On Feb 01, 2015
acidtalk:
one of the above is amongst the 3.
I think I know the one...the bank never concerened itself with opening account with 'chicken change' but now it is chasing people to open account with chicken change like mad.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Tundeajani(m): 10:32pm On Feb 01, 2015
Sammiejokes:
I can't wait to see the debate put forward by soludo before 12th of febuary, channels tv make dz happen, this is what the youths need to make the right decisions. Kilode have not been following soludo but chai after reading his latest articles, damn the prof is too intelligent kilode, God I ask for such depth.
we have so many soludos on nairaland,,the sad thing is that pdp and apc thugs have hijacked the structures with their money bag to please the admin
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by duni04(m): 10:34pm On Feb 01, 2015
acidtalk:
I won't debate with you because I can sense you are quite myopic.

Which yeye oil? Even if oil reaches $200/ barrel GEJ and his team of economist have ruined and still ruining the economy.

When you unborn great grand children have to pay for a debt this administration is inviting it will be too late and sad then.

The problem with clueless people is that they base Nigeria's economy strength and sickness solely on the global oil price which is NOT SO.
So debt is ur own benchmark for the massive layoffs you're ignorantly forcasting? And I'm the myopic one? What percentage of our debt is foreign and local, and what is our debt to GDP ratio? See me thinking that your argument was that the cbn's new CAR requirement in accordance with Basel 2 would put a squeeze on the banks and force them to cut costs. Not knowing that this dunce here was ignorantly pointing to debt. My fault, i went to quote a dunce. Mtshewwwww!
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by wirinet(m): 10:34pm On Feb 01, 2015
Shebi, some people support Jona because he is from the SS, he is from minority tribe, he is christian or simply because they hate the gambaris, well i have news for you, being from the SS, a minority tribe or a christian will not give you jobs, put food on your table or educate your children. We will all swim or sink together. You do not need a sooth sayer to tell you Nigerian economy is in deep shite, lots of companies are packing their bags and leaving, others are selling their assets. The PZ factory in Ikorodu was recently sold off to some indians. It is only those Nigerians that have jet planes as jona likes to boast that would be immuned from the economics crisis (but they would not the immuned from the attendant security crisis).

One begins to wonder why OBJ sacked (or is it demote Okonjo Iweala to the interior ministry). To me she mismanaged the economy as minister of the economy.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Nobody: 10:35pm On Feb 01, 2015
acidtalk:
Land prices will equally drop but it will favour the buyers.


Can I advice every MATURE and responsible person out there?
My brother the writing is clearly on the wall. I am an urban and regional planner and already i am witnessing a mass exodus in the direction of property acquisition .... not in houses but in actual bare land....not in single plots but in acres and hectares. Everyone wants to secure their tomorrow by not allowing what happened in the stock market to repeat itself with them. Even i am also acquiring because i know that where we are now we need another 10yrs to get out of it. Diversification would not happen overnight. Becoming a major agricultural exporting nation would not happen overnight. Indeed we need to dig in and sit tight till we level out and begin to climb again. GEJ has run this vessel called Nigeria aground.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Boss13: 10:35pm On Feb 01, 2015
duni04:
Soludos degree from UNN is original and Ngozis from Harvard is fake?
What he was trying to say is that - one know his onions and the other relies on paper statistics.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by acidtalk: 10:38pm On Feb 01, 2015
RayCharles:
You are wrong. The biggest dam in the world (Yangtze Three Gorges Project) China cost almost the same amount stolen and it generate 22,500MW Purpose status: Power, flood control, navigation Operational. Imagine what dis dam will do for the economy
YOU ALL WANT TO KNOW WHY NIGERIA WILL NEVER ACHIEVE A STEADY POWER SUPPLY EVEN IF WE EMPTY ON TREASURY ON THE POWER SECTOR?


THIS IS WHAT THEY DONT WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW: ONCE THERE'S STEADY POWER, THE LIKES IFEANY UBA, FEMI OTEDOLA, MIKE ADENUGA, ALIKO DANGOTE, JIMOH IBRAHIM, ABC OJIAKWO AND OTHER MONEY BIGWIGS IN NIGERIA WILL HAVE THEIR SOURCE OF WEALTH REDUCED.

YOU BUY A GENERATOR ONCE IN FOUR YEARS BUT SPEND THOUSANDS OF NAIRA RUNNING IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.


ONLY A MAN WHO ISN'T CORRUPT BY TAKING BRIBE FROM THESE MONEY BAGS CAN SOLVE NIGERIANS EPILEPTIC POWER SITUATION.

THINK MY PEOPLE! THINK!!
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by 989900: 10:40pm On Feb 01, 2015
asha80:
I think I know the one...the bank never concerened itself with opening account with 'chicken change' but now it is chasing people to open account with chicken change like mad.
You mean that one? Chei!
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by 989900: 10:41pm On Feb 01, 2015
acidtalk:
YOU ALL WANT TO KNOW WHY NIGERIA WILL NEVER ACHIEVE A STEADY POWER SUPPLY EVEN IF WE EMPTY ON TREASURY ON THE POWER SECTOR?


THIS IS WHAT THEY DONT WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW: ONCE THERE'S STEADY POWER, THE LIKES IFEANY UBA, FEMI OTEDOLA, MIKE ADENUGA, ALIKO DANGOTE, JIMOH IBRAHIM, ABC OJIAKWO AND OTHER MONEY BIGWIGS IN NIGERIA WILL HAVE THEIR SOURCE OF WEALTH REDUCED.

YOU BUY A GENERATOR ONCE IN FOUR YEARS BUT SPEND THOUSANDS OF NAIRA RUNNING IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.


ONLY A MAN WHO ISN'T CORRUPT BY TAKING BRIBE FROM THESE MONEY BAGS CAN SOLVE NIGERIANS EPILEPTIC POWER SITUATION.

THINK MY PEOPLE! THINK!!
#Truth.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by Boss13: 10:42pm On Feb 01, 2015
dondo83:
I doubt if you were Out of secondary school then but if not for recapitalisation by soludo, banks were like micro finance in those days. They open for 2 years steal people's money and fold up. 2 he just mentioned that during his tenure inflation was single digit and yet you ask what he achieved? Were you expecting him to tar roads or build hospitals?
That is the only way many nigerians see development - tarring or repairing roads. You won't blame them, the politicians sing about road repairs as part of their electoral promises.
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by acidtalk: 10:42pm On Feb 01, 2015
duni04:
So debt is ur own benchmark for the massive layoffs you're ignorantly forcasting? And I'm the myopic one? What percentage of our debt is foreign and local, and what is our debt to GDP ratio? See me thinking that your argument was that the cbn's new CAR requirement in accordance with Basel 2 would put a squeeze on the banks and force them to cut costs. Not knowing that I am a dunce here was ignorantly pointing to debt. My fault, I AM REALLY A DUNCE. Mtshewwwww!
Re: Soludo Replies Okonjo-Iweala, Accuses Her Of Forging National Economics Stats by jahlove4jah: 10:43pm On Feb 01, 2015
The sad truth is that non of these people cares about we the common masses. They are interested in their pockets.
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