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| Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 6:45pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Jonathan vs Buhari Rejoinder |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 6:46pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 6:48pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Rebasing of the Economy: Prof Soludo made a caricature about the efforts to rebase Nigeria’s economy and said in his article it amounted to nothing. He made bold to say that on all the indices used by international reviewers Nigeria’s economy is showing poor results, he went as far as to score the Administration an “F” on the economy. On this I cannot be more ashamed of Soludo, than to say this. Prof Soludo lied to the Nigerian people. Hear him; “First, my friend was educated that re-basing the GDP is no achievement: it is a routine statistical exercise, and depending on the base year that you choose, you get a different GDP figure. Re-basing the GDP has nothing to do with government policy”. First of all he is full of contradictions, he says we have failed to make progress on any of the economic indices, then he says in the same thesis that our over $510 billion GDP economy is not progress, (he used $540 billion in his article). He even went as far as to say that the rebased figures of the economy is NOT as a result of any Federal Government Policy in the statement above. Again he is dead wrong. The figures that gave the Nigerian economy a boost after the rebasing came from the fact that new industries have been created and have grown in Nigeria since the Administration of President Goodluck Jonathan.This is where Soludo showed his true colors... |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 6:57pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
*pukes* Where did they find this wash down piece of an unintelligent article? |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 7:01pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
I don't think people remember that this administration was there in the most profitable years. This administration saw go prices go as high as $140 and still they could not save as much money as the administrations who were in charge at sub $70. Does anyone else find this ironic? What has been done with the money? |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Bevista: 7:03pm On Feb 02, 2015*. Modified: 4:20pm On Feb 04, 2015 |
NOI was taken to the cleaners by Soludo. I hope that after dancing Shoki and atilogwu with TAN, she can agree to the economic debate proposed by Soludo. Clueless surrounded by glorified clueless. #TeamGMB2015 |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 7:06pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
How come no one has spoken about the huge lie that has become the "agricultural revolution"? I tell people any sane government will base success on output of the policy and an agricultural policy should be based on 1. Has there been an increase in output? 2. Has there been a reduction in the price of these goods 3. Has the farmers been making more money? On these three points, it is a fail so we ask what exactly the revolution in the agricultural sector is |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 7:09pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Mynd44:Why would Soludo, a so called professor of economics use 2010 and 2011 to judge macro- economic performance in 2014? Does it mean that he could not access recent data to work with a whole Professor? It is clear that he deliberately and conveniently ignored the most recent statistical information from CBN, NBS, World Bank and other reputable international organizations because they don’t tally with his objective which clearly is to discredit the President Goodluck Jonathan administration and his economic management team lead by Dr Ngozi Okonjo Iweala. Whose errand is Soludo running? Must one resort to cheap lies to be relevant? |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 7:13pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Prof Soludo verbatim: “…poverty incidence and unemployment are also simultaneously at all-time high levels. According to the NBS, poverty incidence grew to 69% in 2010 and projected to be 71% in 2011, with unemployment at 24%. This is the worst record in Nigeria’s history, and the paradox is that this happened during the unprecedented oil boom …” Is this the truth? Hell no! Recent figures from the National Bureau of Statistics, NBS, current poverty figures stands at 33.1% and not 71% like Soludo boldly claimed. Unlike what the professor said in his much-publicised essay, under the Jonathan administration, Nigeria is experiencing her lowest incidence of poverty in history. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by emiye(m): 7:13pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Rebasing of the Economy: Prof Soludo made a caricature about the efforts to rebase Nigeria’s economy and said in his article it amounted to nothing. He made bold to say that on all the indices used by international reviewers Nigeria’s economy is showing poor results, he went as far as to score the Administration an “F” on the economy. On this I cannot be more ashamed of Soludo, than to say this. Prof Soludo lied to the Nigerian people. Hear him; “First, my friend was educated that re-basing the GDP is no achievement: it is a routine statistical exercise, and depending on the base year that you choose, you get a different GDP figure. Re-basing the GDP has nothing to do with government policy”. First of all he is full of contradictions, he says we have failed to make progress on any of the economic indices, then he says in the same thesis that our over $510 billion GDP economy is not progress, (he used $540 billion in his article). He even went as far as to say that the rebased figures of the economy is NOT as a result of any Federal Government Policy in the statement above. Again he is dead wrong. The figures that gave the Nigerian economy a boost after the rebasing came from the fact that new industries have been created and have grown in Nigeria since the Administration of President Goodluck Jonathan.The GEJ administration should be ashamed celebrating an output of a rebasing that was last done over 20 years ago, in the early 90s, during the military era. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by dridowu: 7:15pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Just because Soludo says his mind people are now attacking him left and right, i tire for this kain government oooooo. The only thing government want to hear is praise no criticisms at all. Anyway, thank God Sanusi is no more the worst CBN gov according to the government, once Emefiele criticise the government spending also he too will be insulted left and right. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 7:15pm On Feb 02, 2015*. Modified: 7:35pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
emiye:What are you talking about? I thought you people want change? Confused group of believers. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 7:18pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
dridowu:When we bust the lies we are attacking? We are not zombies like APC supporters, we just don't take what politicians say as facts and truth. APC supporters refuse to debate issues from the President aspirant to nairaland, APC supporters lack cognitive thinking skills. ![]() IKENGAWO V. APC proved that the other day! |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 7:19pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
biafranqueen:Wait, what economic team? Is there an economic team? In case some of you don't know Soludo is saying that data from the NBS is being falsified for the benefit of the government. I wonder why people think that rebasing does any good to Nigeria sef. You said reputable organizations? The same ones that have been downgrading our economy since third quarter last year? Do you wonder why we are being downgraded? Maybe it is because they know we are a bunch of liars |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 7:22pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
biafranqueen:Data from the NBS is being tampered with. It is not accurate lady. That is the point of this whole thing. You claim the poverty rate is 33.1% do you really believe it? Be honest |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 7:25pm On Feb 02, 2015*. Modified: 7:51pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Mynd44:Nigeria according to Wall Street Journal, “has emerged as the frontier-market economy that is attracting the most attention from American and European multinationals.” The same report went on to state that “Nigeria is joined by Argentina and Vietnam as the frontier markets that multinational corporations are most interested in, according to a new index of corporate sentiment.” Frontier Markets Sentiment Index do you know it? It is created exclusively for the Wall Street Journal by Washington DC-based advisory firm Frontier Strategy Group. This tracks the level of interest shown by major European and American multinational companies in countries across the frontier markets world. Is Soludo saying that investors from America and European multinationals would believe falsified records and advise investor to go to an F-grade economy? Can Soludo be this ignorant and petty? |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 7:30pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
biafranqueen:I will ignore your attempts to insult me this once lady and still reply you. You want to track FDI and use it as a measure of confidence and strength of the economy? Cool. Do a comparative assessment of FDI in Nigeria and Angola last year alone. Do for Oil and then non oil. I can see you side stepped the questions about how come this administration sat through the most profitable times for crude oil prices and yet could not save as much as previous administrations. Infact our foreign reserves is actually lower than what this present administration met. Those are economic index to measure how sound you economic team (that's if we have one) is. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 7:31pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Mynd44:Is it also falsified and unbelievable what CNN reported? Soludo’s “F-grade” economy has witnessed an unprecedented growth rate of 7% in the last couple of years according to CNN Money, or are they also lying for Auntie Ngozi? Nigeria’s economy in the years under review is witnessing the third highest growth in the world behind China, 7.3% and Qatar 7.1%, so all these reputable agencies like CNN are being paid like Sahara Reporters?
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| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Ngwakwe: 7:34pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
I like this debate by Dr Iweala and Prof Soludo as I have a lot of catching up to do. I appreciate any new entrant who will further enlighten the populace and help deepen our democracy. I am enjoying the discourse. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Kennywills7(m): 7:36pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
biafranqueen:Ride on |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by DesChyko: 7:36pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
I'm not an economics guy, but having read both articles and researched on the term, 'rebasing', I find this article worthy of being archived. It's easier to build accusations than counter one, which I must admit, this is one hell of an impressive article. And the rebuttals here are based on hearsays than fact. I wish Soludo can react to this accordingly to reinforce his now slack opinion. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Kennywills7(m): 7:38pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Let soludo and ngozi come out to debate live Lets see who is best in d profession |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by obi4eze(m): 7:39pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
It is a shame to note that NOI has been lying to us since. She should tell us what happened to the audit report concerning the missing $20 billion? How is it that she cannot actually explain what actually happened to our depleted foreign reserves? She is not fit to be Minister any longer. Both her and her incompetent principal will be sent packing come FeBuhari 14. #ihavedecided #buhariosinbajo |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 7:40pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
biafranqueen:Does GDP growth relate to poverty rate? I dont get you people ooo. You guys really need to watch how you throw statistics around |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by emiye(m): 7:40pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
biafranqueen:I suspect you are the confused fellow, the last time Nigeria conducted rebasing exercise was over 20 yrs ago, so if another one is done in 2013 and showing that the economy now has 510 billion usd, it is a cumulative effect of the new sectors that emerged after the early 90s that the last rebasing was done The new rebasing of GDP took in to account , telecoms, nollywood, e,t,c It is the goal scorer that matters, not the score keeper. GEJ became president in 2010, and can not take glory of what he had virtually zero input in. BTW, i care little about GDP but HDI (Human Development Index) |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by tit(f): 7:41pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
the truth is, i cannot see the logic in soludo's and utomi's economic criticisms. soludo talked about government growing irokos! government irokos like government refineries? in 2015? when government can hardly keep the doors open on their existing white elephant refineries? if soludo and utomi still do not get it, then no wonder we keep moving in circles, not making progress. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 7:41pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
obi4eze:I have raised that question on this thread too. What happened to our foreign reserves? Even in the middle of a boom in oil prices, dafuq happened? |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 7:45pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
emiye:People keep throwing GDP around like anyone really cares about it. How does this growth lead to development? Is there any development at all? A GDP rebase is in 20 years, GEJ spent roughly about +3years before the rebase so we are expected to believe that the result of his +3 years is what lead to the growth over 20 years? I think I need to pull out my hairs |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by biafranqueen(op): 7:45pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
reborn1:Which insult? Ignorant- lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated. Petty-of secondary or lesser importance, rank, or scale; minor. That is just an honest observation. When he was running for Governor I was against him for his total destruction of the banking system and his aiding and abetting the biggest criminals ever in financial theft. My respect and why you have never heard me go against the Emir, is because I was his fan until he started messing up with APC touts, and misinforming the public to a panic with supposedly missing money. What is Soludo really up too? He is a hater of of the best economic management team lead by Dr Ngozi Okonjo Iweala. Like he said he is traveling the world so he has not kept up with the countries economics. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by Mynd44(mod): 7:49pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
biafranqueen:Madam, please explain to we ignorant people how come we have seen a massive boom in oil prices. A seriously massive boom and yet for some reason we dont know, our reserves have fallen. Please note: The reserves did not remain constant, they fell. |
| Re: Soludo’s Misinformation (1) by obi4eze(m): 7:56pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Mynd44:That's the problem. I read her reply to the first article written by CS and was looking for her explanation but found none. Looks like this Government is just interested in looting instead of saving. I keep saying it that (at this rate of depletion) if we allow them a second 4-year term this country will have little or none left in the foreigh reserves. |
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