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Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by blackpanda: 11:24am On Feb 12, 2015

GoldCircle:
GREATEST POST OF ALL! I GREET YOU MY FELLOW COMPATRIOT! YOU HAVE SPOKEN VERY WELL AND INTELLIGENTLY TOO!

Unfortunately this is not the time to be passive or sit on the fence.
God will not come down to change Nigeria. You must make do with the options available not live in a fantasy

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Hoba007: 11:29am On Feb 12, 2015

smsdigito:
And in your mind you have demonstrated wisdom isnt it? I just laugh, haven't you heard of that principle in English language that says a word in isolation has no meaning until it is used in a sentence which will determine its meaning based on whatever context?
All these your world definition of this and that is bullshit as when the chips are down, meanings change based on situation, law and so on.
GEJ is still correct.

I use to get angry a lot when i read comment form guys like until i was told that the Govt pay people like you to be on social media like this but some of you are just filled with so much hatred they can use their brain effectively. If you haven't listened to the infamous presidential media chat which your president said ' corruption is not stealing' you should try and do that, he said and i quote 'Over 70% of what are called corruption offences, even by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) and other anti-corruption agencies, is not corruption, but COMMON stealing.” I can go on and on about this but i know is not gonna make any difference to you, we should all continue with what we are doing but you should know we all live in this country directly or indirectly the Govt ineffectiveness will affect us all.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Nobody: 11:30am On Feb 12, 2015

What a discombobulated jester! #CHANGE IS INEVITABLE!

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by ccaramel(f): 11:31am On Feb 12, 2015

To steal is to be morally corrupt.
When you are in power and you steal/ embezzle funds. That is corruption plain and simple.
To steal in govt, bribery, forgery, theft is always involved.
Giving out contracts to dud companies or friend/ relatives who will certainly give a cut ( bribe)
Govt money can never be pulled out of the bank or stolen directly by a person in power.
Stealing in govt is done by awarding contracts, excessive expenses eg private jets, limos, exotic cars and hotels.
Bottomline stealing= corruption.

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Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by adbokus(m): 11:32am On Feb 12, 2015

kallmemrB:
Same old bullcrap.....justification of stewpidity

while your 'shrewdness' shines forth in the most disturbing and repulsive manner! Employment of insults in an attempt to articulate a line of reasoning is the greatest form of stupidity!!!

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by samplegirl(f): 11:33am On Feb 12, 2015

dealslip:
Let whoever wins take his rightful position in Aso Rock. Whatever be the case do not help to heat up the polity. This politicians we always clamour for dont have our interest at heart. When the violence start, they and their children will flee to fortification while the military men will be wasting the lives of Nigerians. Recall the Nigerian civil war, the principal actors lived to ripe age. Gowon is almost 80 and Ojukwu died at the ripe age of 78 leaving inheritance for his children but do not forget that 3 million people lost their lives on both sides. Their death was in vain as the politicians reconcilled and many are now great friends and they are still ruling us. Their children have equally joined in ruling us. if not why would the children, wife, inlaw, nephew of Tinubu, Obanikoro, Lai Mohammed, Abacha, Ibori, Osoba, Igbinedon etc have the nerves to even pick up any form from INEC. Let us be wise, vote for your candidate and move on. We have never voted anyone that will please us for even a term, before the tenure ends we will start screaming and shouting for another. Politicians are not your messiah. We are the ones to drop our selfishness, materialism, hatred, insensitivity and wickedness towards another. Our division is greatly helping their own agenda. As long as we are divided we will always be at the loosing end. What they owe us is infrastructures, security and proper resource control. It is not theirs to help us define our heritage, an Hausa man is not better than all the other 250 tribes and vice versa. We are first human before we recognise any tribe or nation what we owe each other is love. We are not different in anyway except our mindset. It is not theirs to help us discover religion, it is supposed to be between us and our God. Religion is a personal thing, as long as it works for us. God is the judge not us or them. Please keep yourselves safe, you too can rule one day.

I do not have much words to express myself towards your write-up, but the only thing I have to say in my loudest voice is THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by adbokus(m): 11:34am On Feb 12, 2015

sod09:
wen d clueless one is still d president.....
stealing is not corruption
this man no day think b4 opening his mouth
like husband like wife

fatuousness!!!

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by adbokus(m): 11:37am On Feb 12, 2015

Hoba007:
Ops, You are just as stupid and clueless as your president, the question you need to ask yourself what is the meaning or definition of the world 'corruption', which means 'dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery', what is the definition of 'stealing' it means; taking (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it. All these babbling and mumbling of the sadistic bastard just to safe face isn't working. There are only three types of people that would vote for the clueless one, the hypocrites, their types have being with us for centuries, God didn't speak well of the hypocrites, the Evil doers, those ones are the corrupts politicians, corrupt Nigerians, the drug dealers they know if buhari becomes the president is longer business as usual for them and lastly, the stupid ones and they constitutes 90% of the people supporting the clueless one, reason a state governor would say he knows the president has done nothing for his people but he would still vote for him. If you sat down and watched the rambling of the clueless one on Tv yesterday and you are convince about what he said about differentiating corruption from stealing, then you are part of that 90%.

mere projectionism!!!

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by FP2014: 11:41am On Feb 12, 2015

It is so unfortunate and painful to note that in the midst of all the troubles in this country: missing girls, missing billions, displaced people, low unemployment and so on.., all my president could talk about is how to use words correctly,.. who cares whether stealing is corruption or not,.. All I know is both are immoral and anyone who commits any should be punished.. Jonathan please tell us what you will do differently if you want another four years.. But if you're going to continue with this same style of passive governance,.. Please get out!.. No hard feelings,.. But we cant continue with this style of governance,.. Nigeria need a change!!!

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Nobody: 11:41am On Feb 12, 2015

adbokus:
while your 'shrewdness' shines forth in the most disturbing and repulsive manner! Employment of insults in an attempt to articulate a line of reasoning is the greatest form of stupidity!!!

. Mumu pls don't quote me said Mr President

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Hoba007: 11:42am On Feb 12, 2015

Nicklaus:
Story continues,,,, what a novel u got here. Your brain must be royally screwed by now. With what you defined on the top part of ur story, quite right, but I don't suppose u read and understood the president's speech so I didn't bother to finish yours, otherwise you would have known better. Mind you the thread is for educated people not illiterates like you and your General. One would think you practically knew the difference between stealing and corruption, but it's obvious you desperately sought the guidance of a dictionary. Don't worry we know the MEANINGS.

Educated fool! if you like go and a buy the front page of newspaper just to insult, common sense is far from guys like you, if this is kind of comment you get from being educated, i want to know the school you graduated from but anyway........ there are no courses in our tertiary institutions on common sense, it would have really helped you. I know you are one of those PDP social media thugs, you have sold your soul because of money.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by sod09(m): 11:45am On Feb 12, 2015

adbokus:
fatuousness!!!

go nd die

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by sod09(m): 11:46am On Feb 12, 2015

bdidi:
Its so unfortunate that a comment like this are made everywhere.

I think its high time we used our sixth sense to deduce logical issues.

Its so unfortunate! No thanks to freedom of information bill.

abeg hug transformer if e day pain u

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by sod09(m): 11:49am On Feb 12, 2015

obum88:
Hahahahaha...with your 'cluefullness' NL couldn't even grant you an interview. HATER!

slowpoke

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by adbokus(m): 11:50am On Feb 12, 2015

kallmemrB:
. Mumu pls don't quote me said Mr President

olodo amukunmeko!...

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by OILOFGLADNESS: 11:52am On Feb 12, 2015

ShowYourCertificate:
http://www.informationng.com/2015/02/jonathan-explains-stealing-is-not-corruption.html

wise one, i hope most Nigerians that wag their mouth anyhow reads this.

what baffles me is how people even graduates will ever compare someone that cant boast of JSSCE to a PHD holder, money cannever buy PHD. Nigerians use your head.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by adbokus(m): 11:53am On Feb 12, 2015

sod09:
go nd die

you first!...

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by 9jamustchange: 11:55am On Feb 12, 2015

I am suspicious of explanations explaining things that are self-explanatory.

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Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by sod09(m): 11:55am On Feb 12, 2015

Jwonder:
Theft and corruption are both acts of dishonesty,
but they are not exactly the same. Theft can only
be corruption when it involves abuse of office,
else, it is just theft.

bros u not getting it.....corruption is act of been biase or immorality
A thief, rapist, liar, cheat, even politician grin

are all examples of corruption ,so what are u saying
U can't be a thief without been corrupt its in d mindset..so stealing is corruption
Gej been clueless since birth

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by sod09(m): 11:56am On Feb 12, 2015

adbokus:
you first!...

I'm waiting don't let me force u

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Nobody: 11:58am On Feb 12, 2015

[b] . . . . . .what Jonathan initially said;

[size=14pt]"Over 70% of what they call corruption in Nigeria, is mere common theft. The word corruption is being abused, it's just mere theft."[/size]

. . . . . . . what he now says;
[size=14pt]
"Our people hate thieves more than corrupt people, yet most times, we use corruption to cover the lapses.

A thief should be called a thief and treated as such. In my village, when an adult steals, they strip him unclad, humiliate him and his family, but if you say this man is corrupt, they won’t know what you are talking about. We are using corruption to cover it all up"

. . . . . .note the "mere theft" in the first quote[/size]

. . . . . .this is what | law | Encyclopedia Britannica defines theft;

"theft, in law, a general term covering a variety of specific types of stealing, including the crimes of larceny, robbery, and burglary. Theft is defined as the physical removal of an object that is capable of being stolen without the consent of the owner and with the intention of depriving the owner of it permanently"

. . . . . .the law dictionary defines corruption as;

"Illegality; a vicious and fraudulent intention to evade the prohibitions of the law. The act of an official or fiduciary person who unlawfully and wrongfully uses his station or character to procure some benefit for himself or for another person, contrary to duty and the rights of others"

[size=14pt] . . . . . .the question to ask Mr. Jonathan and his likes; is theft or stealing not an illegality? is stealing and theft by a government person not a breach of fiduciary? is theft/stealing not evading the prohibitions of the law? . . . . . .if a director in the pensions board diverts/withholds funds meant for pensioners to his personal use, is that not robbery? hasn't he robbed the owners (pensioners) permanently? is robbery not theft? is this act of the director not an act of using his official station to procure benefits to himself contrary to the rights of others (pensioners)? doesn't this act fall under the definition of corruption?[/size][size=8pt][/size]

[/b]

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by alphamars(m): 12:00pm On Feb 12, 2015

Nigerians are really gullible people. When an officer steals while in office , that officer is a corrupt officer because the money he/she stole was meant for some other project. That officer is termed to be a corrupt officer. So why on earth is someone tell me that stealing is not corruption? So what makes corrupt officers? If not stealing..always remember that misappropriation of public funds is stealing. My people abeg make una wake up.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Bluffly: 12:01pm On Feb 12, 2015

Democracy can be interesting with all this Dogo Turan chi. Stealing is not corruption because it was written in the files that they stole money. In those cases of corruption that was written as stolen, did or did it not involve manipulation of records to be able to steal public funds. If he supports that stealing is not corruption and he talked about what is been done in his village to anyone who stole, then I think we need to start executing jungle justice on anyone who steal public funds as stealing is not corruption and they are "Ole".

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Osgilliat(m): 12:02pm On Feb 12, 2015

I believed that the essence of identifying a thief is to either discourage such with punishment or encouraged such without punishing such individual for the act committed . mr president is not making any effort in discouraging political thief. aka pen robbers.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Sssage(m): 12:02pm On Feb 12, 2015

Pennyways:
people like are very daft and tough for a teacher to teach

Hmmmm... you are like ur post.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by jadakiss213(m): 12:11pm On Feb 12, 2015

bushdoc9919:
Thanks for the explaining....but stealing is still the same thing as corruption.

Either way....someone loses kudi!

Not exactly..'Corruption' does not have to involve money.Pls get that into your head..For example,two men having s*x is a corruption of our values as Africans..Forging of a secondary school Certificate is Corruption.. Wonder the kind of schools people attend these dayys that's making comprehension so hard.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Osgilliat(m): 12:13pm On Feb 12, 2015

mr president should just accept the fact that he made a wrong statement that ought to have not been uttered out in the public. Buhari is not a saint neither is mr president, but as for me and my family we shall take our thumb to the polling boot come this march, we shall vote out unemployment, corruption, economy instability,suffering, political instability, inflation, labor strike etc.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Dubemkelly(m): 12:16pm On Feb 12, 2015

love this...Don't use an instance to conclude on other things, get a basis and understand the context

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Nobody: 12:21pm On Feb 12, 2015

jadakiss213:
Not exactly..'Corruption' does not have to involve money.Pls get that into your head..For example,two men having s*x is a corruption of our values as Africans..Forging of a secondary school Certificate is Corruption.. Wonder the kind of schools people attend these dayys that's making comprehension so hard.

The question should be what kind of education you received that would make you draw a line of separation between stealing and corruption.

Q: IS STEALING A VICE?
A: YES

Q: IS CORRUPTION A VICE?
A: YES

Q: DOES STEALING EMANATE FROM A PURE/RIGHTEOUS MIND?
A: NO

Q: DOES STEALING EMANATE FROM A CORRUPT/SINFUL MIND?
A: YES

Q: WITHOUT CORRUPTION WOULD THERE BE STEALING?
A: NO

Q: WITH CORRUPTION WOULD STEALING EXIST?
A: YES

Conclusion..... Stealing is synonymous with corruption as one breeds the other. My advice is for you to sit down, clear your mind and THINK!

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Sarhyd(m): 12:23pm On Feb 12, 2015

dealslip:
Let whoever wins take his rightful position in Aso Rock. Whatever be the case do not help to heat up the polity. This politicians we always clamour for dont have our interest at heart. When the violence start, they and their children will flee to fortification while the military men will be wasting the lives of Nigerians. Recall the Nigerian civil war, the principal actors lived to ripe age. Gowon is almost 80 and Ojukwu died at the ripe age of 78 leaving inheritance for his children but do not forget that 3 million people lost their lives on both sides. Their death was in vain as the politicians reconcilled and many are now great friends and they are still ruling us. Their children have equally joined in ruling us. if not why would the children, wife, inlaw, nephew of Tinubu, Obanikoro, Lai Mohammed, Abacha, Ibori, Osoba, Igbinedon etc have the nerves to even pick up any form from INEC. Let us be wise, vote for your candidate and move on. We have never voted anyone that will please us for even a term, before the tenure ends we will start screaming and shouting for another. Politicians are not your messiah. We are the ones to drop our selfishness, materialism, hatred, insensitivity and wickedness towards another. Our division is greatly helping their own agenda. As long as we are divided we will always be at the loosing end. What they owe us is infrastructures, security and proper resource control. It is not theirs to help us define our heritage, an Hausa man is not better than all the other 250 tribes and vice versa. We are first human before we recognise any tribe or nation what we owe each other is love. We are not different in anyway except our mindset. It is not theirs to help us discover religion, it is supposed to be between us and our God. Religion is a personal thing, as long as it works for us. God is the judge not us or them. Please keep yourselves safe, you too can rule one day.

GOD BLESS YOU

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Olamitisoji(m): 12:23pm On Feb 12, 2015

Very True Mr. President, synonyms of stealing, breach of trust, bribery,
bribing, crime, crookedness,
demoralization, exploitation, extortion,
fiddling, fraud, fraudulency, graft,
jobbery, malfeasance,
misrepresentation, nepotism, on the
take, payoff, payola, profiteering,
racket, shadiness, shady deal, shuffle,
skimming, squeeze*, unscrupulousness,
venality.
Antonyms: decency, honesty, honor,
truthfulness, wholesomeness.

This is for people that still thinks stealing is corruption.

GEJ till 2019.

Re: Jonathan Explains What Meant When He Said ‘Stealing Is Not Corruption’ by Glomoni: 12:23pm On Feb 12, 2015

ShowYourCertificate:
This is what happens when an opposition is illiterate and without certificate. How can you say stealing is corruption? So it means armed robbers are corrupt? SMH

EFCC prosecutes those who steal while ICPC prosecutes those who are corrupt. It's a simple knowledge but our certificateless Buhari find it hard to comprehend

[size=25pt]#BuhariShowYourCertificate[/size]

Beta pikin from beta mama!!!

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