I have heard of SARS and extra-judicial killings, but I have never believed it. However, now I am forced to wonder...

seriously it is better the hunger deal with me than me borrowing money with all dese banks...all dey care about is their gain, and if is you who put in big amount of money dere you would only gain a little interest rate..banks are shit. sorry bout your mom by the way

But wait ooooo they took loan of 2.5mil and interest is 6mil over 250% hmmmmmmmmmmm
I dint say anytin ooooooo

Sometimes i read stories and be like why did GOD make africa this corrupt. In the states you can't lock up a human being for 24hours without real proof of allegation.9ja we need change #GMB till 2000forever!

I hope is not that Awkuzu SARS,because that place is a HELL FIRE...You wouldnt believe what i witnessed there when i was once there on trump up charges against my person...Thank God she is in good health.I hope they didnt hang her!

Pls go and get the Human Right group involved in dis case because they might come back for ur mum or dad.

chocolateme:
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I have good news today!! My mom has been released so thank God with me. Just like I narrated the last time about all I knew about the case, I want to let u all know the latest development and full details of what happened. I told you the last time that I only said the least I know and one of you advised me to leave Lagos and go down and see her and also know if there is more to the case.

I travelled home on Wednesday (3 days back) after getting permission from my workplace.

My mom was released on that Wednesday around 6pm one full week from the Wednesday she was arrested. In fact 20 minutes after my younger brother brought her in, I entered the compound. I'm really happy and sad too because of her condition of health, of course you guys will understand me. She looked very horrible, lean, frightened, vulnerable and weak. Dark circles all over her eyes, suddenly she looked older than a 47 years old woman. Well, it's well. I lack words to tell you all about her situation because it brings dark clouds to my heart.

First signs she was exhibiting was over consciousness of her environment, at any door sound or loud voice, she seem to jump out of her skin and terror fills her eyes and she will start shaking, we managed to make her feel at home but it wasn't working, she wasn't able to eat yet. The truth is that my mom has this childish part of her life that still amazes us till now. We, her six children 3 boys and 3 girls all out of university believe that it was her early marriage at 15 that made her that way. She cries if you don't call her on phone for one week and pouts a lot. She is also a very strong mother, I don't know how to make you understand that my parents can never defraud anyone with the kind of hearts they have.

She ate only twice there so she lost all will to eat and till today, she still drinks only malt and water. But she is been taken care of by the family doctor, she will be fine. I have two phases of details to tell you people, 1: how she was released and 2: the full details of the case. Tnx for your patience on this.

THE FULL DETAILS:
I called my dad to narrate exactly what's up because I really don't know everything in details and this is how it happened; for those that knows main market Onitsha, you will understand this, my dad among other traders was among the people that bought over shop allocations then in one of the locations where shops building projects was going on then, a certain politician then, a woman though can't remember her name was involved in the project. They were building those shops and by then everywhere had been bought over even before the completion and all of them has their ownership and validity documents at the LGA. My dad said that the project later entered into political whatever and they halted the project, meanwhile , that was the documents that was used for the collateral. He banks with Union Bank over the years and funny enough, they have issued loans on 3 different occasions to him without collateral based on trust and it was later paid back. So on this issue, the bank contacted these property evaluation office to go and evaluate the property then. This may sound odd and unbelievable but that's the truth. The woman contacted by name "Naomi " (not real name just to call her that )went to our head office in Bright Street where my mom stays and met her on that fateful day and narrated why she came, my mom welcomed and gave a seat. She had to wait for my dad to come so they can both go the property for her job.

My mom said that after some time while they were just talking about business and stuff, she got up to go complaining that she is too busy and the weather was hot, mom urged her to wait but she left and few minutes later she came back and told mom that there is nothing really much on why she came that its just a procedure, that she will just take a picture of our shop and complete her work that its nothing though since they will repay the loan, she brought out her work camera and took snapshots of our shop and then left and that was the last time she came. Forwarded to this year now that the bank came, mom showed me photocopy of the letter she wrote to the bank concerning how she can be able to pay up that money and even the time frame was included, so they can grant her request. She is yet to receive a feedback from the bank before this thing happened.

They asked for collateral this time because of the setback on my parent's business, if you know No. 7 Bright street main market, u will know what happened there few years ago.
I found out as i got home that It was not even the Bank Manager that arrested my mom though I don't know if he has a hand in it from the background.

The bank went to the LGA for confirmation and then went to the property but found it not active and non existing, they summoned Naomi based on her evaluation evidence not been what they see now, she later called my dad to impose accusation on him that the day she came that he shouted her down and asked her to leave and that was the last thing I know my dad will do, my dad became very surprised and asked her if she can recognize him on sight, that was she not the one mom said that took pictures of our shop the day she came, she cut the phone. I heard she told the bank manager to give her few days to sort out the mix up that she wants to go to the LGA to clarify something, I don't know what happened but I think the bank found out what she did and then started having issues with her.

That was how SARS came and took my mom, it was at their office that we found out that her report says that my parents are frauds and she denied been the person that came for the evaluation on that day, she said it was the youth corper that served in her office then that came for it.

But the thing is that my mom heard of her name and knew that it was the same person that came to the shop that day. Well my friends, she was the one that called SARS for my parents, she instructed them to focus on my dad and that the family will hurriedly run around and pay the money. Even the day they came to the house, mom refused to allow them enter the house without a search warrant but they pushed her violently to the ground and one of them twisted her fingers. So concerning the shop I narrated on the other thread, it was an alternative shop of my parents but the bank refused it that it won't fetch that amount.

The actual amount loaned is 2.5 million and the interest is 6 million not 7 , my mistake. That's all. Another thing is that despite the fact that they have mom, they kept looking for my dad everywhere asking us to provide him. They were really hell bent on catching him courtesy the woman's request. She actually used SARS so that they will manipulate the situation so my dad can pay up the money and I don't see how it's her business for the money to be paid. Ok enough here.

HER BAIL:
I don't really understand the type of lawyer they had been using on this case, seems lawyers differ, his own was to file case to Federal court before mom comes out, very sluggish man though young and with family. Wednesday and she was still there, all the people my dad contacted were told by SARS boss that its fraud and they kept stretching the case. So my youngest sister contacted her friend in Abuja to talk to her dad, she mounted pressure on them that Wednesday, later a call came from State CID Awka to SARS that a person with a so so case at their custody should be brought to Awka with the case file that morning. They put my mom in the back of her Hilux and took her to Awka, they met the man and my mom told him everything as it happened, the man was shocked on hearing that she even stayed up to 48 hours in SARS custody not to talk of one full week hmm! He then asked for the complainant to report to Awka, they called her and she said she was at Asaba that she was coming, 3 hours later, she didn't arrive, they called and she said she was almost at Awka. 3.45pm she has not been seen and the man said he won't conclude on any decision until the woman comes, she stopped answering her calls and switched off her phone. Unknown to them, she went straight to SARS office to see her people, they put a call to Awka for my mom to be brought back! Meanwhile, the man in charge has gone out, I don't know what they call that his rank again, weda CPO abi IP whatever.

My mom noticed what was about happening and started begging an officer for his phone to make call, he dialed my sister's number, she already knew the source where the call came from through them. She told her what happened at Awka that they want to take her back to SARS, hmm!! My sis started her lamentation calls again and as God may have it, the man called and told them to wait for him, on arrival, he got to know that the woman never reported and went to SARS office, the man then made called to SARS department and gave some instructions and sent someone with them.

He told mom that she should not panic that whether the complainant surfaces or not, that he will send her home but she still has to make another statement, all these were done and they took mom back to SARS and bailed her with 50k, the woman has long left the office before they got there and nobody has heard from her since then till now. The lawyer asked for 300k to file the case, he was not even aware that my mom has come out, my brother called him that day and he said that all these TO and FRO movement is not yielding anything until he files the case, he was given half of the money so we can gather the rest. But that's for only filing the case fee, I don't understand him and he has not even come to the house to see mom and find out how she got bailed. They said she should report to SARS on Monday for their routine check.

My mom was actually in their cell 2 where other 27 women were, no space on the floor to lie down, she is actually suffering from the daily habit of them shooting young guys dead anyhow after which by midnight, they gather the bodies and go and dispose them, no one can avoid seeing those bodies and even hears shots when they were been killed, it's a small place so everything happens around them there. I even heard they sometimes uses this nylon bags to cover their heads before strangling them with iron chords, she is really more traumatized and frightened by what she had been seeing there than her condition.

She said the place is just like another world. Jungle justice. But all the same, thank God for my mom, she said that her greatest gift of all from God in this case is that her husband was never caught because if he was ever taken there hmm!! Who knows what the turn out of events would have been by now. So that it, I have told them to get another lawyer for this issue.

It's ok if you find these details lies or with some hidden informations, but thats everything there is to it. I understand most of you that called my dad names believing he is not man enough to face it, I agree but let my parents be complete and alive for us. Thanks everyone.

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I remember reading this in the earlier post. I remember suggesting that a fundamental human right action should be filed. That is what the lawyer was doing even if he was not being as fast as you would expect.

Now you people should sue the woman and join the police for illegal detention. Your family can make good money on this. Your mum should not have been detained for more than 24 hours. Sue the IPO in hisnpersonal capacity together with the woman u called Naomi and then join the police. When you get a positive judgment you can levy execution on the womans estates and properties even if she continues to run.

Coldplay007:
It's more worrisome to me that nobody on this thread commented on the extra-judicial killings...
Boko haram has made us resistant to that kind of gist7...

hhhmmm! my sister!

Pray make u no enter SAS hand for eastooo! demabloodykillersmen!

scareybloodykillersman that you will be wondering if they are not worst than the armurobas!

Especially Awka and Onitsha zones! they will maud you for no other reason than say u no fit raise the 50k they demanded from you for being arrested by 8pm for wandering! they will kill you and join your name for armed robbery suspect gunned down in action - shikena! no further questions asked!

Its really sad how many innocent Nigerians lost their life everyday because they have no judiciary system in place to protect them! you can see from the guys story the kind of money the lawyer is requesting for just to take the matter to court while the suspect is languishing in detention! whatever happens to probono - It doesn't exist in Nigerian lawyer's dictionary!

AM SERIOUSLY CAMPAIGNING FOR GMB BECAUSE WE NEED A SERIOUS OVERHAUL OF THIS CONTRAPTION CALLED NIGERIA! WE BADLY, SO SO BADLY NEED TO OVERHAUL OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM AND GMB IS THE ONLY MAN THAT CAN LAY A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR THE REPAIRS BEFORE OTHER ACTIVE CITIZENS CAN TAKE OVER FROM HIM AND CONTINUE THE WORK!

AT POSTER - HARDLUCK TO YOUR MOM.

Jchi9876:
But wait ooooo they took loan of 2.5mil and interest is 6mil over 250% hmmmmmmmmmmm
I dint say anytin ooooooo

Not a biggie. Interests are usually compounded.

nwaanambra1:


hhhmmm! my sister!

Pray make u no enter SAS hand for eastooo! demabloodykillersmen!

scareybloodykillersman that you will be wondering if they are not worst than the armurobas!

Especially Awka and Onitsha zones! they will maud you for no other reason than say u no fit raise the 50k they demanded from you for being arrested by 8pm for wandering! they will kill you and join your name for armed robbery suspect gunned down in action - shikena! no further questions asked!

Its really sad how many innocent Nigerians lost their life everyday because they have no judiciary system in place to protect them! you can see from the guys story the kind of money the lawyer is requesting for just to take the matter to court while the suspect is languishing in detention! whatever happens to probono - It doesn't exist in Nigerian lawyer's dictionary!

AM SERIOUSLY CAMPAIGNING FOR GMB BECAUSE WE NEED A SERIOUS OVERHAUL OF THIS CONTRAPTION CALLED NIGERIA! WE BADLY, SO SO BADLY NEED TO OVERHAUL OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM AND GMB IS THE ONLY MAN THAT CAN LAY A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR THE REPAIRS BEFORE OTHER ACTIVE CITIZENS CAN TAKE OVER FROM HIM AND CONTINUE THE WORK!

AT POSTER - HARDLUCK TO YOUR MOM.

Did you say bro bono? The complainants does not come across as indigent. Besides lawyers carry out charity courses by choice and based on individual judgment.

Thank God all went well. Your mum is still scarred from her experiences. She needs a psychotherapist to decondition her mind.
As for the extrajudicial killings, we need a way to enforce the rule of law in this country. I pray for the day such stories will end in this country. God bless.

hardbody:


Did you say bro bono? The complainants does not come across as indigent. Besides lawyers carry out charity courses by choice and based on individual judgment.

bro. my reference to probono is in situation of those that are innocent but are incarcerated or killed because they cannot afford lawyers to plead their case.

@OP, if you and your siblings are bold enough, go to the bank and make enquiries.... also ask the bank staff in charge of the loan or any other staff to give you the office address of the bank's valuer..cuz the fault is from that girl working for land n building consulting company of the bank...the girl didn't value the property but instead gave the bank a wrong figure. My problem now is why will your mum be thrown to sell without proper verification and the bank can never say they don't know anything about it...it's a great injustice to your mum....

if you have a good lawyer, you'll sue the bank, SARS and the valuation company of the bank.

I work for a credit(lending) institution...no bank has that right to take it's customer to court EXCEPT if the customer refuses to pay... more so being the staff of the valuation company?? that's crazy!

i1:
at poster, the lawyer was a bit slow sha... thank God Mama is free, meanwhile get another lawyer as soon as possible to sue the bank for locking her up for more than 48 hours, please sue the police too, finally whether Naomi reported to the plice on her own does not concern you, she is a staff of the bank and the truama your mum faced was based on the bank.. if the lawyer is good, that 6 million naira una no go pay one kobo from am..

Loan of 2.5millilion to yield interest up to 6million,the moment you sign such loan u re doomed except you have a way of evaluating ur collateral to meet the amount of the initial loan 2.5m and valued @ 7m otherwise ,I sorry sorry oh.
Loan for small scale traders is always like working for the banks.

Meanwhile there is a deal businessmen do called collateral.someone else brings in the collateral,while someone else sticks the neck for the loan,and once its granted they share the loan within themselves.now tell me,is the person signing for the loan willing to payback?most times the collaterals is an arrangee thing,with the court,bank and the person signing for the loan

sorry@ops. We need to condemn the police attitude on this. But as someone rightly said, the only solution to the problem is meeting the bank manager. Discuss with him the difficulties that your parent went through and also explain why their demand letters were not responded( because i believe, to reach this level, there must be a demand letter served). Request for interest concession and timeline to pay up, i think once u can agree on this, the issue will be laid to rest.

This Naomi lady, does she work for the bank or is an independent interest? Anyways, sue those that need to be sued SARS inclusive.

Good heavens!!!

I'm in shock not out of disbelief but out of horror. Se we go fit change this country so? Extrajudicial killings still happen like this!

Sistah, thank God your mom is safe and sound. How I wish the same could be said of all those poor young men. What are we going to do with this country, bikonu?

Did this happen in Nigeria or somewhere in Sudan? I'm confused. Can someone just pick up the phone and instruct the police to arrest someone? Who is shooting who? Please take your mom for both a physical and mental check up. She likely went through more than she can ever tell you. I give up on Nigeria

nnamdiosu:



thank for youo. I'm so happy. pls u guys should be praying for her o. post trauma effects to clear off. amen

You do not treat trauma with prayers. she needs Counseling.

nwaanambra1:


bro. my reference to probono is in situation of those that are innocent but are incarcerated or killed because they cannot afford lawyers to plead their case.

Oh ok. Human right law firms do that a lot. Some go to the cells to look up such people and negotiate bails for them. Even courts have been known to appoint vounsel in court to take over defence in criminal matters of people not defended.

most Nigerians starting from the politicians to the police, army, okada men,church general overseers, sheikhs/imams etc are heartless, wicked and cold minded. people are killed ae everyday like fowls and yet we claim to be the most religious country on earth. @ op, ekenedilichukwu maka nne gi, o bu maka udi ife a na eme na anambra ka mu ji wee noro ugwu awusa ebe mkpakpu na mmegide mmadu ka ra na nso. soso chukwu no na enuigwe ga azoputa anyi na aka onwe anyi. dalu nke oma

hardbody:


Oh ok. Human right law firms do that a lot. Some go to the cells to look up such people and negotiate bails for them. Even courts have been known to appoint vounsel in court to take over defence in criminal matters of people not defended.

BRO! THIS YOUR COMMENT DEY HAPPEN FOR NAIJA?? KAI! I NO GREE!

i guess you are living in France of Switzerland like NLs use to say!

op please settle with the bank and don't sue anybody. the lawyer might get u into a court case and continue extorting money from u while the case drags on indefinitely given the messed up courts in Nigeria, besides SARS if sued can make ur family disappear overnight and nothing will happen. i know a guy that won a case against EFCC and they turned around to rearrest him indefinitely. SARS would do worse. just settle with the bank cos the bank was not responsible and would do anything to avoid a police case in my own experience. leave everything to God.

I think that is the best solution to the problem.

snakie86:


From the op analysis,i dont think the bank had anytyn 2 do with all the drama. The naomi geh to me should be a valuer who carried a valuation job on the property. When the loan went bad and collateral which was d last resort to fall back on was not in place, the bank had to go and drag naomi to show what she valuated on her report then. Naomi wanted to do everytyn to clear her own name too.

*****another angle is if naomi was not a debt collector appointed by the bank to recover the money for them ***********

My suggestion is dis, in order not to be spending unnunnecessary money, the bank is still the solution to this issue cos no matter how,the bank still want their money back. Forget the fact that the initial loan amount was 2.2m and has risen to 6m, its very possible my brother. Even a 100k loan can rise to 100m if not service cos banks will still be calculating their interest over the time the loan was not serviced.
You and mumsy should have a meeting with the bank manager,explain situation of things and make a formal request for concession on the loan and modalities for repayment. The bank will listen cos the utmost is that they want their money back and dont be surprise,the interest element might be waved depending on how the bank manager can relate your case to the bank management.
Since you are still around,try and visit the bank,have a meeting with the manager and reach a compromise on the repayment modalities. (Be exact and firm on what you can pay back but be rest assured that the principal will be collected even though accrued interest might be waved).
Even banks dont like going to policd or court for retrieval of small debt like dis cos its a cost on it on.
I pray you find a long lasting solution

I THANK GOD FOR UR MUM, I HATE ANYTHING LIKE CRIMINAL CASE,I HAVE EXPERIENCED CASE IN IKEJA FEDERAL SARS BEFORE,THEY ARE ONLY AFTER BIG MONEY. THEY KILL PEOPLE LIKE GOAL. THE DAY I WENT THERE I DON'T PRAY TO VISIT THE PLACE AGAIN IN MY LIFE..

hardbody:


Not a biggie. Interests are usually compounded.

Lecture me plz on interest rates Prof

Mgbadike80:
most Nigerians starting from the politicians to the police, army, okada men,church general overseers, sheikhs/imams etc are heartless, wicked and cold minded. people are killed ae everyday like fowls and yet we claim to be the most religious country on earth. @ op, ekenedilichukwu maka nne gi, o bu maka udi ife a na eme na anambra ka mu ji wee noro ugwu awusa ebe mkpakpu na mmegide mmadu ka ra na nso. soso chukwu no na enuigwe ga azoputa anyi na aka onwe anyi. dalu nke oma

O boy here resemble ur village age grade meeting??

otipoju:


Best advice. God bless your wisdom. I wish her mum speedy recovery but its a long road. She is really scarred by her experience.

I'd like to have details of the bank and the staff in question. I must say here that the staff was very unprofessional in the way she handled the matter. It will do you good to make available every details of the bank in order to bring to bring justice to this case. Even if the so called banker is on recovery suspension, there are so many ways to go about it.

otipoju:


Best advice. God bless your wisdom. I wish her mum speedy recovery but its a long road. She is really scarred by her experience.

I'd like to have details of the bank and the staff in question. I must say here that the staff was very unprofessional in the way she handled the matter. It will do you good to make available every details of the bank in order to bring justice to this case. Even if the so called banker is on recovery suspension, there are so many ways to go about it.

Nice to hear your mom has been freed. But, as I was reading your story one thing that struck me is the universality of corruption in Nigeria. So, the lawyer couldn't bail your mom legally due to the Nigerian man-made bottlenecks?. But a certain bigman from Abuja made a call to SARS office and your mom was freed within 24 hours?.
NIGERIA IS A DEAD COUNTRY!.

Until we get a government that will address this and provide justice for ALL Nigerians whether poor or rich, democracy haven't began.

Mgbadike80:
op please settle with the bank and don't sue anybody. the lawyer might get u into a court case and continue extorting money from u while the case drags on indefinitely given the messed up courts in Nigeria, besides SARS if sued can make ur family disappear overnight and nothing will happen. i know a guy that won a case against EFCC and they turned around to rearrest him indefinitely. SARS would do worse. just settle with the bank cos the bank was not responsible and would do anything to avoid a police case in my own experience. leave everything to God.

Nonsense.

Congratulations oooooo. I dread the Nigerian Police because of an experience I had with them in 2007 in Lagos.

I had just returned from NYSC and was working as a trainee journalist (called cob reporter). On that Sunday, I decided to visit my uncle's shop in Alausa. I forgot my I D card at home.

On that Sunday, I closed from the shop at 9pm and with one of my uncle's boys, we waited at the Alausa Bus Stop for a bus to take us home.

Suddenly, this danfo just stopped, they came down with their AK47, asked me to where I was going, I said home and that I just closed from the shop. That was how they asked me and the boy to get into the bus with two other people waiting at the bus stop. I was as scared as death.

They drove us round Alausa, and while this was done, they were telling us: "na una dey terrorise Alausa abi?" I could not say anything as I was shaking from inside. They picked some others as they went on.

That was how we landed at the Area F police command at 11pm. I met a crowd of people all stipped of their shirts. They asked us to strip too. I did. Two times after us, they brought in another set of people including girls (probably on night hustling.)

At mid-night, they lined us up and sat at a distance. They would call each person, ask what brought him and then they would ask the person to bail himself.

When it got to my turn, I told the man how I was picked. He asked me to bail myself but I showed him the N100 left on me and the nylon containing akara that I bought to eat at home. He simply looked at me and said I would be taken to court the next day.

By morning, we were few left. Some had bailed themselves. One policeman came and met us. He asked me what I was doing there and I told him. He asked of my profession and I told him I am a journalist. That was how the situation changed. It was like they had seen a lion. They started covering their identities and many others were begging me for forgiveness. They finally freed me and even paid my bike fair home.

Since then, I have taken the average policeman for whom he is...