₦airaland Forum

Rilwayne001:
[size=13pt] And what will be the fate of the saved N200,800, 000, 000. 71 Lets not forget that how president borrowed a loan of $1,000,000,000 to fight BH, Cant he just used the saved ghost workers salary instead of collecting a loan?

Or can you please tell us how the N208.71bn was used in betterment of the country?

Patiently waiting for your reply [/size]

agabaI23:
The way you believe that dictator with bad human rights records and zero economic performance is now a progressive.

The way you believe every word that falls out of Tinubu's mouth

The way you believe that any body that decamps from PDP to APC is now saint progressive

The way you believe every negative thing said about GEJ.

That is the way to believe a verifiable truth.
Invoke the FOI act if you need evidence because GEJ is involved.

Rilwayne001:
[size=13pt] And what will be the fate of the saved N200,800, 000, 000. 71 Lets not forget that how president borrowed a loan of $1,000,000,000 to fight BH, Cant he just used the saved ghost workers salary instead of collecting a loan?

Or can you please tell us how the N208.71bn was used in betterment of the country?

Patiently waiting for your reply [/size]

superstar1:
Stop your mouth diarrhoea and show us the people that were charged to.court for such heinous crime against the Nigerian State and citizens.

Or is it only thieves that must be charged and not corrupt people, using the definition of GEJ of corruption.

When you discover a crime and you fail to penalise people, what message are you passing the others --- for your hollow brain l, the message is go ahead with the crime, just ensure you are smarter next time.

Omooba77:
All the ministries and parastatals are full of Ghost staff,abi na workers. When people die,they will still be collecting his/her salary

Spicylate:
and this is just too bad. while there are thousands looking for a means. People bad oo. smh

Whynotthetruth:
How do we fight corruption in your own understanding bro? let's start the debate from there...

superstar1:
Stop your mouth diarrhoea and show us the people that were charged to.court for such heinous crime against the Nigerian State and citizens.

Or is it only thieves that must be charged and not corrupt people, using the definition of GEJ of corruption.

When you discover a crime and you fail to penalise people, what message are you passing the others --- for your hollow brain l, the message is go ahead with the crime, just ensure you are smarter next time.

Rilwayne001:
[size=13pt] And what will be the fate of the saved N200,800, 000, 000. 71 Lets not forget that how president borrowed a loan of $1,000,000,000 to fight BH, Cant he just used the saved ghost workers salary instead of collecting a loan?

Or can you please tell us how the N208.71bn was used in betterment of the country?

Patiently waiting for your reply [/size]

Rilwayne001:
[size=13pt] And what will be the fate of the saved N200,800, 000, 000. 71 Lets not forget that how president borrowed a loan of $1,000,000,000 to fight BH, Cant he just used the saved ghost workers salary instead of collecting a loan?

Or can you please tell us how the N208.71bn was used in betterment of the country?

Patiently waiting for your reply [/size]

Rilwayne001:
[size=13pt] And what will be the fate of the saved N200,800, 000, 000. 71 Lets not forget that how president borrowed a loan of $1,000,000,000 to fight BH, Cant he just used the saved ghost workers salary instead of collecting a loan?

Or can you please tell us how the N208.71bn was used in betterment of the country?

Patiently waiting for your reply [/size]

Whynotthetruth:
Your is the reply you're patiently waiting for...
Go get yourself informed first and stop misinforming people especially on issues you are neither grounded in nor have any tip on its modus operandi...
What's the gain in rushing to comment only to end up showing how empty you're upstairs? You don't know those reading your post...

peleson:
And do u think u v made. Point?

mecusbosco:
You know laggards by their comments! Who is going to respond to this?

ozoigbondu:
GEJ is working
Haters are busy hating
Dreamers are busy dreaming of aso rock
March Nigerians March for Jonathan

Omooba77:
Ten people getting salaries of a job of two men..There is no job to be done,imaging five drivers driving same Toyota saloon car

Rilwayne001:
[size=13pt] And what will be the fate of the saved N200,800, 000, 000. 71 Lets not forget that how president borrowed a loan of $1,000,000,000 to fight BH, Cant he just used the saved ghost workers salary instead of collecting a loan?

Or can you please tell us how the N208.71bn was used in betterment of the country?

Patiently waiting for your reply [/size]

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/06/ghost-workers-and-indulgent-exorcists/
GHOST workers and indulgent exorcists
on June 17, 2013

While speaking at the Edo State Technology Day in July 2011, Governor Oshiomhonle also revealed that, prior to the advent of his administration, “the State had to contend with the phenomena of ghost workers and ghost pensioners in addition to other abuses of the payroll system”.

Also, in July 2011, the Rivers State Universal Basic Education Board reported losses of N2.4bn annually to 1477 ghost workers, while the National Identity Management Commission, in the same month, also revealed that, after conducting a biometric data exercise, it had uncovered 4000 ghost workers out of about 10,300 employees on its payroll.

The Ekiti State Governor, Dr. Kayode Fayemi, has also lamented the realization that, prior to his administration, the Ekiti State government loses over N3bn annually to ghost workers out of a projected annual budget of N80bn. In May 2009, the House of Representative Committees on Customs and Excise also discovered that about 50% of the 20,000 workforce in the Nigeria Customs Service were ghost workers.

[b]Certainly, federal government is not immune to similar fraudulent revenue leakages; indeed, as far back as 2001, the incumbent Accountant General of the Federation, Chief Joseph Naiyeju, reported the discovery of 40,000 ghost workers following a man-power verification exercise conducted by the federal government.

Similarly, when Mallam Nasir El Rufai was Minister, of the Federal Capital Territory in 2006, 6000 ghost workers were detected after the completion of a staff audit, which also revealed that the FCT government was losing about $8m annually, due to ghost workers on its payroll.

The Bureau of Public Service Reforms (BPSR) with El Rufai as Chairman, consequently signed a World Bank sponsored $4.9m contract with the Nigerian-based System Specs Consortium in October 2006, for the provision of a more coherent Integrated Personnel and Payroll Information System (IPPIS).

Former Finance Minister, Mr. Olusegun Aganga, in July 2011, reported that the federal government had removed a total of 43,000 ghost workers from the old payroll of 112,000 employees in several MDAs, between 2010 and 2011, through the implementation of the IPPIS! The IPPIS system is a biometric system, where the data of every government employee is captured so that salary payment can be made directly into the correct bank account.[/b]

hermesprogidy:
All of you criticising the poster are the ones wrong. He has asked a very valid question. Let me give a simpler analogy. We all know salary is a recurrent expenditure, hence you have to budget for it come rain, come sun. Imagine you are an employer with 10 people under your employment, whom you pay N100 monthly, it means that at the end of each month, you have to set aside N1,000 to pay your staff. If for some reason, in a particular month, 5 of these people die, or you find out they do not exist, does that not mean that you will now pay N500 rather than N1,000 as you have always paid/budgeted? It now means you have free N500 to do other things with. It is not rocket science.

The poster is simply asking; what has the government done with this excess? (if the story is true)

And what is it in the original write up where it read "At first he was worried when it was delayed, but when we told him the real reason for the delay, he smiled"was that really NOI talking or the trailer of a new Nollywood movie called "Desperate for Love"

Whynotthetruth:
Probably, because you share his sentiments you won't read to understand. However whatever makes the government look bad is good for you...Sure, it will look like stories in the movies to your kind...

The $1billion loan he brought in here is it a cash backed loan
Has it been disbursed?
Is conventional purchase of arms done by carrying money in Ghana must go bag to the shelf to pick up arms?
What's the procedural protocol and general mechanism involved in arm purchase? does such protocol support the mode of transaction as par the arms Nigerian government want to purchase?

Is our budget a surplus or deficit budget?
If we have to borrow to make up our shortfall, and suddenly we get some free cash due to savings from such. What do you think will happen? Do we have money stashed already somewhere from which this budget will be financed? After recurrent expenditure by ministries, what and where does the excess or balance they have go to? it is that same place that this money will go...thanks

gists:
My brother, they don't have anything to show other than to keep repeating routine exercise and gullible Nigerians will clap. How many time in the past have ghost workers been uncovered and billions saved. NOI wants us to believe she has done what has never been achieved before but the truth is this kind of exercise had been done in the past without any form of jamboree and devoid of glory seeking:



The point is discovery of ghost workers sadly is not new as many administrations have done this before without jamboree and glory seeking.
Madam NOI, please don't insult us any further because we know the next thing we will see is that this will make it to the list of GEJ's achievements (if its not there already)

hermesprogidy:
Typical selective argument. The one billion naira loan is only a fallout of the main discussion and am not interested in that. The bone of contention here is what has the government done with the expected savings from discovery of ghost workers. Like the poster rightly asked.
Simple enough?

Image123:
Are you saying there is no work to be done in the Civil service? Job should be created and people paid. It is better than few top people pocketing the $1 Billion. They should find jobs for them and make them accountable. Nigeria is big and viable, things can work.

Whynotthetruth:
lolz...you're the one being either selective or myopic (no offence plz)...That poster you sort to defend raised both issues together hence I had to quote him because he is criticising without understanding.
Maybe you too didn't quite read my last reply to you or you didn't comprehend it because even what you asked now have being answered there...
Let me use a simple market analogy to help your brain here...If you have a need of #150. And as you're about to go to market with #100 which is all the money you have at home; you suddenly found out that you have a tin of tomato remaining which might have cost you like #20 from the #100 though you actually need #150 for the purchases. So you cancel out tomato from your list of things to buy while your journey to the market continues...Where is the money you saved from that tin of tomato....Is Nigeria running a surplus or deficit budget?....That analogy is the case of Nigeria my good brother...hope you understand it better now?

hermesprogidy:
You are the one being myopic here (no offence too) and your analogy sorry to say, makes no sense. Don't over complicate things, I have already made my point. Stop defending thieves.

Whynotthetruth:
Sure, that analogy wont make sense to a block head. Mind you; You never made any point. You only made yourself a judge over others; who you have no proof for your insolence or vituperations against their person & office outside of mere rumour and propaganda...
Rather than live such a hatred and bigoted life while not aim high while seeking further skills to drive yourself up...
NOI & co have no hand at all in your predicament. They didn't force you into miserable life...They are thieves to you but role models to many within and outside Nigeria....it is your choice my bro...do not quote me again... thanks

Omooba77:
Government only needs to create enabling environment; many people in government offices dont want to leave because they can't do any other thing,if it is a productive sector, yes it can expand like factory, but in a ministry you have number of typists you can employ......

Rilwayne001:
[size=13pt] And what will be the fate of the saved N200,800, 000, 000. 71 Lets not forget that how president borrowed a loan of $1,000,000,000 to fight BH, Cant he just used the saved ghost workers salary instead of collecting a loan?

Or can you please tell us how the N208.71bn was used in betterment of the country?

Patiently waiting for your reply [/size]

zinaLPF:
That is not quite how fiscal budgeting works - the fact that this money is "saved", does not equate to a surplus. It simply means that is N2B that does not have to be spent. Reality is that the funds were probably never available as Nigeria has been robbing Peter to pay Paul in this era of our single product economy (OIL).

Let me explain with an everyday analogy:
Wazobia earns N100,000 annually. Wazobia has his eyes on a Toyota Camry at the car dealer next door. The Camry costs N500,000. Wazobia places the Camry on his "budget" every year, believing like the man of God (Daddy G.O.) says, that this blessing shall be his! 2 years go by, Wazobia still has not been able to save a penny because his yearly expenses are N120,000! He is barely making it, and has had to borrow money from Iya Ijebu (IMF) and Malam Nasiru to meet up. (Lets not talk about the time he stole N2000 from madams wallet when she was making eyes at Oga's best friend.)

One day, as Wazobia is walking home (trekking, because he cannot afford keke napep), he sees that the Camry is gone! "Kai!" Wazobia says, "someone has stolen my blessing! Diaris God oh!!" He goes home that evening and with a heavy heart (full of curses for that thief of blessings), he strikes the Camry off his budget.

Fact: 1. Wazobia is NOT N500,000 richer suddenly. 2. That is N500,000 he does not have to worry about borrowing / stealing / re-allocating to spend. 3. Wazobia, clearly an irresponsible dreamer, will probably just replace the Camry with another unrealistic item on his "budget".

Comprende?

Whynotthetruth:
Sure, gullible and open minded Nigerians will clap but the ones with burdens of hatred will moan and cast it away as nothing...
If previous administration did same without much hullabaloo; how come you saw it in the news?...

Due to your hatred and prejudice against people who doesn't even know of your existence; you fail to read with reason. Let me help you here. The difference between what previous administration did and what NOI is doing is very big and obvious. How....Past government just did routine investigation and found out some ghost workers and flushed them out. But these are replaced almost immediately by same notorious officers in civil service.
In the case of GEJ now;he is using technological innovations as such countries like New Zealand did. Those technology and systemic platforms are being set up now and once you want to manipulate it; it will shut down. So no matter what you do there now; shortchanging the system won't be easy since no transaction can be concluded by one person or two persons alone....Replacing them won't be easy as before and the platforms or softwares will sure outlive his term and subsequent government won't have the burden of ghost workers again...it is w cashless system now....
Did I make any sense to you? or you still wanna stick with your prejudice? It is a choice bro...