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| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Horus(m): 5:12pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
[size=19pt]REVEALED: How Europe sponsors Boko Haram Insurgency – New York Times Investigative report reveals[/size] A New York Times Investigative report has detailed how the dreaded Boko Haram sect is getting funds from Europe to execute its deadly assault on the Nigerian nation and its people. According to the report, the Europeans have become catalyst for the widespread of terrorist activities in Africa and the world at large, stating that the payment of ransom for kidnapped Europeans aids al-Qaeda’s global business across the world. The ransom paid by these Europeans is used to purchases arms, trains and finances its members through these ransoms. The report said… $1.99/Mo. for 12 months of Economy Hosting at GoDaddy.com Even though they deny paying ransoms, it was found that European countries paid al-Qaeda and its direct affiliates at least $125 million in revenue from kidnappings since 2008, of which $66 million was paid in 2013. This is despite numerous agreements calling for an end to ransom paying, including the 2013 G8 summit, where some of the biggest ransom payers in Europe signed a declaration agreeing to stamp out the practice.  Quite naturally, the foreign ministries of Austria, France, Germany, Italy and Switzerland and other countries denied paying terrorists. But the United States Treasury Department was reported to have put ransom payments at around $165 million over the same period. These payments were through a network of proxies, and in the guise of development aid, the report said. “Kidnapping for ransom has become today’s most significant source of terrorist financing,” said the Treasury Department’s Undersecretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence, David S. Cohen, in a 2012 speech. “Each transaction encourages another transaction,” he added. While in 2003 the kidnappers received around $200,000 per hostage, now they are netting up to $10 million, money that the second in command of al-Qaeda’s central leadership recently described as accounting for as much as half of his operating revenue. According to reports, in 2010, a state-controlled French company paid $40.4 million to rescue four French nationals, while another paid $17.7 million to rescue two French nationals from Togo and Madagascar, respectively. In the previous year, terrorists received $12.4 million from Switzerland. In 2011, $5.1 million was received from Spain. Europe has, thus, become al-Qaeda’s cash cow. Source: http://abusidiqu.com/revealed-europe-funds-boko-haram-insurgency/ 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by rexzqcom(m): 5:33pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
These French bokoharam terrorists are either French Muslims militants here on their own accord to help the insurgency.As some have been going to middle east to help Isis. Or they could be French technical assistance there to train and aid bokoharam in the fight. If the former is true, there will be more other European countries Muslims citizens involve too. 1 Like |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by teemy(m): 5:51pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
unarmed US drones were supposed to be surveilling the skies during the start of the state of emergency. guess they did not count getting the info on the chibok girls' movement as important. another france drama on a strong african nation like libya. |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by teemy(m): 5:56pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
cameroon and other african french colonies should with the complete united backing of the AU use this as the much awaiting chance to free themselves from being france manipulated. africa for africans. with joint missions as this AFRICOM isn't needed. |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Nobody: 6:24pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
Well, I know this isn't enough to conclude France is behind all this. I'm sure citizens of Niger, Tchad, etc are also in the group and could be unified by their common belief/religion and not necessarily a matter of national involvement. However, the way France is putting her demand is demeaning and totally undeplomatic but certainly not surprising. She has maintained a strong grip on her former colonies till date, sucking them dry and thus constituting a clog in the wheels of their economic success. How you treat me is a function of how we relate, France can't give such orders to our already stubborn country. The situation of things in Cote d'Ivoire, Togo, Niger, Congo, and worst of all, Centrafrique (a country that hardly exists but yet to feel what's freedom is like) speaks volume of my opinion. It's funny the way they chop not considering the payment time. In fact, if there's any country a bit free from France, it's Cameroon and therefore, if any of these countries will ever tear away from France properly, it must start from Cameroon. It could be due to her dual colonisation but Cameroon remains the hope of francophone Africa and now is the time. More so, I wouldn't be surprised if France had a hand in this. Nigeria, an anglophone country, being the economic force of Africa doesn't go down well with them cause, to them, it limits their power or control over the economy of the nation as a whole to the advantage of her anglophone neighbors. Let's not forget; France remains France. Over zealous and daring, King Henry the great remains the embodiment of the true nature of France. English has never been a friend; both the language and the people. 2 Likes |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Masterclass32: 7:48pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
Nigerians should unite and fight this scourge off our land. This is NOT a time for sectionalism, tribalism or politicising this issue. Nigeria is under siege. Lets throw away anything that divides us (at least for now) and repel this evil. Some people are hell-bent on dis-integrating Nigeria. They predicted our dis-integration years ago and are now fighting to accomplish that. The very soul of Nigeria is hanging in the balance. Sadly, these people have infiltrated our ranks. Lets unite and drive this thing off our land. We did it before (when they tried to force us to legalise homo-whatever), we can do it again. 1 Like |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by olayinka63: 7:58pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
when president of sudan said CIA and MOSSAD are the backings for boko haram we spoke against him we should reason to what others are saying sometimes 3 Likes |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by nice4allg: 8:08pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
teekay12: You are an African right? if u go to france and commit a crime do u think france will send u to ur home country to be judged? They will judge u there and put u into prison. 1 Like |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by nice4allg: 8:11pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
rexzqcom: Why is france insisting they should be Sent to france for trial if they are on their own accord? 2 Likes |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by nice4allg: 8:15pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
DECOtech: We don't have Death Sentence law in Cameroon 1 Like |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Nobody: 8:16pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
nice4allg: If Nigeria asks that I be tried under Nigerian law, and ask that I be sent, then they will send me down here. It all depends on how strong diplomatic relations are between both countries involved. |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by nice4allg: 8:21pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
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| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by nice4allg: 8:26pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
teekay12: I live in Germany and i have visited most countries in europe. I know the white mentality. They don't trust the african judicial system. Why should we africans trust theirs. We have capable lawyers and judges in Cameroon with international reputation. They should be tried in Cameroon. France shouldnt bully Cameroon because she wants to try them there 1 Like |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by DECOtech(m): 8:46pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
nice4allg: Are you serious? |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by seunayantokun(m): 9:12pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
Seven of those French men should have been shot dead by Cameroon and one left so they can elicit information from him. Please what would France do if they were dead by now? Cameroon, please dare France, kill those terrorists. France isn't God and can't do anything. France knows the right thing to do when politics is set apart. After all, didn't she killed those two Arab French men who murdered the magazine cartoonists recently? 1 Like |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Nobody: 9:22pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
nice4allg: I'm not on about bullying. All I typed initially was purely academic, doesn't mean that's what would happen. |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Nobody: 9:31pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
teekay12: Note, they may or may not agree. And if they refuse, Nigeria can only go about it diplomatically unlike in this case where France is not asking but ordering Cameroon to go by their way. I think the article is more emphatic on the manner with which France is going about it; like Cameroon isn't country enough to go into diplomacy with. On ne va pas accepter ça ici, jamais ! |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by afanide: 10:11pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
Things are begining to unveil itself. No wonder GMB travelled out immediately to Re-strategise......... Now i know his reason......... 1 Like |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Mccullum: 10:20pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
When president Bashir of Sudan claimed that CIA & MOSSAD secretly involve in terrorism that's happening in moslem' states, some people abuising the man, now I can concur that systematically it could be the western powers using some unscrupulous people to brain wash some via evil sensitisation to cause mayhem in Islamic communities around the world, George C. the British secretary of foreign affairs in 1911 - 1922 said that after they've successfully destroyed the Islamic caliphate, they must ensure that there's no unity among muslims again in respect of culture & tradition, so that they'll not be able to reunite again. 1 Like |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Litmus: 10:23pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
Bet you Nigerians with their sweet hearts take this so-called development at face value. Suddenly Cameroon is alright, they're on our side  these sneaky neighbors of ours that should never ever be trusted. One would think Nigerians know nothing about the Good-cop/Bad-cop act. But one should always question, always play back alternative scenarios in the head. Many of us have always suspected foreign forces pulling the strings of Bokoharam so it would be easy to feel vindicated. But what if? Hold on a second and think. What can we gain from this? If the world Media is already telling lies about Nigeria, bending truths, unwilling to change narrative in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence, what use will catching foreigners red-handed fulfilling some of the so-called conspiracy theories and proving them right? Well nothing. Nigeria has no one willing to listen to the truth because so many are desperate for Nigeria to fail. Even the Americans appear wiling to betray every value for which their nation was founded just to see Nigeria fail. Looked at from this perspective, one could quite believe that foreign conspirators need not fear being exposed. So what is the value of foreign fighters being arraigned by Cameroon and how convincing or relevant is the "spat" between Cameroon and France? The only value of this spat is publicity which draw ISIS to the neighborhood. Oh look, foreigners are joining Bokoharam, so lets go and join Bokoharam too.But hay don't mind me , just wondering 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Nobody: 11:02pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
BornSad: Well, its all on diplomacy...and its not based on orders. Don't take for 100% everything you may have read in the media, they're not always wholly accurate. |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by easystudy101: 11:14pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
0key: I'm glad you know that sahara reporters is a spy. Anybody who still thinks boko haram is run by that clown that makes those videos, then your intelligence level should be questioned. The Sudanese president knew what he was talking about when he said boko haram and ISIS is run by CIA and MOSSAD 1 Like |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by easystudy101: 11:15pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
teekay12: Shut the Bleep up |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by United4lyf(m): 11:19pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
Guyman02:we should sue this fvcking french government,their ass should be dragged to de hague for all the atrocities committed in the north east.infact henceforth I'll hate everything french including their football. 2 Likes |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Nobody: 11:43pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
easystudy101: Thank you...but you should check yourself, I won't teach you how to behave, what will teach you will teach you. All the best. |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by easystudy101: 11:52pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
teekay12: I won't be suprised if u r one of their agents |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by poseidon12: 12:15am On Feb 21, 2015 |
This would lend credence to the theory that France is behind Boko Haram. Cameroun should aggressively interrogate those guys to find out who their sponsors are. |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Nobody: 12:15am On Feb 21, 2015 |
easystudy101: Can't I make a honest attempt at analysing the situation? Please employ objectivity. |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by easystudy101: 12:19am On Feb 21, 2015 |
teekay12: You r a clown |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by easystudy101: 12:25am On Feb 21, 2015 |
teekay12: Wow!!! |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by rexzqcom(m): 1:20am On Feb 21, 2015 |
nice4allg: France have their own domestic crisis with Muslim jihadists who leave France to aid other Muslims terrorists in middle east and other parts of the world. France want them to extract intelligence information about them and other potential recruits in their country. |
| Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by Nobody: 5:29am On Feb 21, 2015 |
teekay12: You could be right but picking some part of the story as true and some as lies based on no criteria other than what you think should be is unbecoming. The media is not always accurate, this means that France may or may not have given the orders. You sounding so sure that France never did it just based on the fact that they should never do such makes you no different from the media. All journalism of convenience. Well, there are direct quotations here. And though the media could be annoyingly misleading, such a request coming from France to her ex colony is not far fetched given the fact that she has managed to maintain control on them. I quite understand your stand and appreciate your academic sagacity in the area of international relations but you might need to know that France has many times in past gone beyond her boundaries in relating with her ex-ex-colonies. The white may know what should be done but the white do not always do it especially when it has to do with Africa. This story is probable and if France actually issued such an undeplomatic order knowing quite well this is a very sensitive case, I wouldn't blame those suspecting them cause they called for it. And I'd be of the opinion that Cameroon expressed her discontent in any way possible even if she eventually hands the suspects over to France afterwards. |
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