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Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by davidstones: 7:29pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Sir, I have pointed you to the British and Nigeria Law. That goes beyond you and me sir. " (1)A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it; and “thief” and “steal” shall be construed accordingly. (2)It is immaterial whether the appropriation is made with a view to gain, or is made for the thief’s own benefit. - Theft Act 1968 - UK Law.(1) Here is an extract from Nigeria Constitution. You will agree that part or any part of the constitution was not written by President Jonathan as it clearly defines theft/stealing. "Part 6 Offences Relating to property and contracts Division 1 Stealing and Like offences Chapter 34 Stealing 382. Every inanimate thing whatever which is the property of any person, and which is movable, is capable of being stolen Every inanimate thing which is the property of any person, and which is capable of being made movable, is capable of being stolen as soon as it becomes movable, although it is made movable in order to steal it. Every tame animal, whether tame by nature or wild by nature and tamed, which is the property of any person, is capable of being stolen: but tame pigeons are not capable of being stolen except while they are in a pigeon-house or on their owner's land. A thing in action is capable of being stolen. Animals wild by nature, of a kind which is not ordinarily found in a condition of natural liberty in Nigeria, which are the property of any person, and which are usually kept in a state of confinement, are capable of being stolen, whether they are actually in confinement or have escaped from confinement. Animals wild by nature, of a kind which is ordinarily found in a condition of natural liberty in Nigeria, which are the property of any person, are capable of being stolen while they are in confinement and while they are being actually pursued after escaping from confinement, but not at any other time. An animal wild by nature is deemed to he in a state of confinement so long as it is in a den, cage, sty, tank, or other small enclosure, or is otherwise so placed that it cannot escape and that its owner can take possession of it at pleasure. An ostrich on an enclosed ostrich farm is capable of being stolen. The term "animal" includes any Loving creature other than mankind. Wild animals in the enjoyment of their natural Liberty are not capable of being stolen, but their dead bodies are capable of being stolen. Everything produced by or forming part of the body of an animal capable of being stolen is capable of being stolen. 383. (1) A person who fraudulently takes anything capable of being stolen, or fraudulently converts to his own use or to the use of any other person anything capable of being stolen, is said to steal that thing. (2) A person who takes or converts anything capable of being stolen is deemed to do so fraudulently if he does so with any of the following intents- (a) an intent permanently to deprive the owner of the thing of it; (b) an intent permanently to deprive any person who has any special property in the thing of such property; (c) an intent to use the thing as a pledge or security; (d) an intent to part with it on a condition as to its return which the person taking or converting it may be unable to perform; (e) an intent to deal with it in such a manner that it cannot be returned in the condition in which it was at the time of the taking or conversion; (f) in the case of money, an intent to use it at the will of the person who takes or converts it, although he may intend afterwards to repay the amount to the owner. The term "special property" includes any charge or lien upon the thing in question, and any right arising from or dependent upon holding possession of the thing in question, whether by the person entitled to such right or by some other person for his benefit. (3) The taking or conversion may he fraudulent, although it is effected without secrecy or attempt at concealment. (4) In the case of conversion, it is immaterial whether the thing converted is taken for the purpose of conversion, or whether it is at the time of the conversion in the possession of the person who converts it. It is also immaterial that the person who converts the property is the holder of a power of attorney for the disposition of it, or is otherwise authorised to dispose of the property. (5) When a thing converted has been lost by the owner and found by the person who converts it, the conversion is not deemed to be fraudulent if at the time of the conversion the person taking or converting the thing does not know who is the owner, and believes on reasonable grounds that the owner cannot be discovered. (6) A person shall not be deemed to take a thing unless he moves the thing or causes it to move. 384. (1) When a factor or agent pledges or gives a lien on any goods or documents of title to goods entrusted to him for the purpose of sale or otherwise for any sum of money not greater than the amount due to him from his principal at the time of pledging or giving the lien, together with the amount of any bill of exchange or promissory note accepted or made by him for or on account of his principal, such dealing with the goods or document of title is not deemed to be stealing. (2) When a servant, contrary to his master's orders, takes from his possession any food in order that it may be given to an animal belonging to or in the possession of his master, such taking is not deemed to he stealing." Sources: http://www.nigeria-law.org/Criminal%20Code%20Act-Part%20VI%20%20to%20the%20end.htm Its therefore very pathetic if some so called lawyers do not know the basic definition of theft/stealing. I wonder how they pass their Law School Exam; I can always guess its simply by corruption probably?" thegoodjoehunt3: |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 7:31pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
davidstones:Corruption is defined as "dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery". The definition is simple and we all know what it is, yet Mr. President has spent the last several minutes of his media chat explaining to Nigerians what it is, suggesting we are all somehow confused about this....Prof. Osinbanjo. Are you saying the Prof does not know the constitution? |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by Ilekeh(f): 7:32pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
agabusta: You nailed! 1 Like |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by teecode45(m): 7:32pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
sai buhari ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by visalo: 7:33pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Nicklaus: Naija ona too much. Any way there is no vacancy in asorock for now. GEJ till buhari call his boko boy to orders 2 Likes |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by babasanti: 7:33pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Even Tony Blairs twitter handle has no visit of Buhari https://mobile.twitter.com/tonyblairoffice APC and vanguard BIG LIARS LIES LIES LIES LIES |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by Ilekeh(f): 7:33pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Hmmm I wonder what their next tactic will be. "Buhari is dead"? |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by davidstones: 7:34pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
If you care to listen to the President's explanation, you will notice that he was quoting from a Judge of the Appeal Court. But people do not care about what he was explaining because they have no idea of what the position of Law is. We can agree that a thief is corrupt but a corrupt person is not necessarily a thief. Giving bribe is corruption but giving a bribe is not stealing of course depending on the context. Got that? thegoodjoehunt3: |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 7:35pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
davidstones: The law can not be beyond us because we are to adhere by them. The definition of stealing does not prove that stealing is not corrupt. The definition of Fraud does not show bribery is not corrupt. What matters is are these corrupt practices? Yes they are because they are dishonest and used for personal gains? Is that difficult to understand? |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 7:36pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
davidstones:You do not need to quote a Judge to know if Theft, fraud or bribery are corrupt practices. No wonder his advisers and cohorts are having a field day with the President. Simple these acts are dishonest and used for personal gains. Simple and short. |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by CaptPlanet(m): 7:39pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Dee60: No! It's u apc thugs that are trying to destroy this country. Destroying ppls property who oppose your views. Why would you ppl burn chisco buses? None of u guys carried the news instead u tried to hide it. Why will u guys endorse someone who plotted a coup (a treason able offence) without remorse. With the likes of tinubu, saraki, atiku and obj to rule this country so u can milk it dry. But God is not asleep. All of you will/has failed as usual. We have rejected Buhari before and like one of ur party leaders el rufai said, Buhari is not electable. We will not mortgage the bright future of my darling country on the auspices of mediocrity *God Forbid* Buhari has failed, woefully |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by discusant: 7:42pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
gidistar:Yeye, if APC has 1000 supporters, PDP should be having 2000000 supporters. Buhari can never preside over Nigeria, but you don't seem to understand that yet. Nigeria's politics is not played in colonial master land. It is unimaginable that guardians of Nigeria's Sovereignty shall consign Nigeria to a man like Buhari, a religious zealot, to preside over. This is Buhari's fourth trial. He must fail again. You don't understand that they are mocking Buhari by asking Buhari, a former dictator to speak about the importance of democracy in Africa. 1 Like |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by davidstones: 7:42pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Please tell Osibanjo when next he stands in court (or teach his law students) to quote the definition of theft from a dictionary or his own opinion. I am very sure corruption would have eaten into his head and that is why as a SAN , he would have forgotten that we have a law that defines theft in Nigeria. Knowing the truth and distorting it simply corruption sir and so your Professor is corrupt because he is surely distorting and betraying his profession. I wish we know how he got his SAN as he cannot simply remember the simple and basic definition of theft as per the law of Nigeria or law of a civilised society. That speaks volume and gives me more concern and worry about when people are desperate for position and can go as far as betraying their profession. Osibanjo if you quoted him correctly is a shame to law profession. Tell him a Junior says that and he will understand what I mean. thegoodjoehunt3: |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by CaptPlanet(m): 7:43pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
gateleo: How can an un repentant coup plotter fight corruption when he dines with Tinubu, Obj, Saraki, Amaechi etc? How can u say that a 72 dictator will change the country? Please tell me what exactly he has done for this country....dont just blab, give facts 1 Like |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by ALISMILE(m): 7:43pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
agabusta:I have knw PDP 4 their dumb antics since the time of Hitlar! They ve almost completely divided nigerians along ethnic and religious lines! Let GMB enter and see hw this country ll once again breath d air of unity! 2 Likes |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by DSB(m): 7:48pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
If u were doubting the meeting before this then u must be very naive. This is an information-driven age where anyone can refute a false claim within minutes. Why will APC be so dumb to claim that they met with Tony Blair if they didn't? So if u wan use pesin lie, na this kain calibre u go use, especially when u know say your bubble can be bursted easily? Sometimes I doubt if Fayose is really putting out all these statements (Sadly he is). He must be really scared of going to jail if Buhari wins. 1 Like |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by dollarlander: 7:50pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Ayo fayose is actually a motor park tout. I don't know how ekiti people who are said yo be the most educated in 9ja made that frog their governor 1 Like |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by CaptPlanet(m): 7:50pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
ALISMILE: You must have been in Ghana since. Buhari was the one who started this ethnic bigotry. Where were u during his last campaign in 2011 when he said Muslims should only vote Muslims? Where we're u when he said he'll make this country ungovernable if he looses? Where were u when he wanted to introduce sharia? Biko, if u don't have facts, don't say what u don't know 1 Like |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by discusant: 7:55pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
ALISMILE:You have known PDP SINCE THE TIME OF HITLER? That confirms you APCheats as habitual liars. APC's stock-in-trade is manufacture lies about corruption, stealing, etc., and sell the falsehood to international interests as well as to barely educated millions of Nigerians. 1 Like |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by Nicklaus(m): 8:03pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
visalo: ![]() |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by Jeffoo(m): 8:11pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
PDP followers thank you for campaigning for Apc... Fayoose ur reward await you in Prison. 1 Like |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by alrahmanonline(m): 8:12pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
blemon44:why not direct that question to fayose? 2 Likes |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by jerrymej(m): 8:27pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
I thought the said 'Tony Blair' confirms Buhari as the President! I would 've roll down from the upstears down to the ground level to feel the pain. What I don't understand is Meeting him now means what? Does it emerged him as the president? Abegi |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by erudean: 8:34pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
dustmalik:Exactly! That is the Buhari spirit, "enough cemeteries" to bury your relations. Too bad! ![]() |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by nedupel(m): 8:39pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
GeneralBosco:I pity you |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by LoveDecay(m): 8:43pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
jerrymej: How many foreign political icons and heavyweights has Jonathan seen since the election started. You think presidency is a local game - think of countries like your neighbours where you live , they have friends in other places and those friends have friends in other places. That is how the game is being played, integrity , trust, discretion, courage and logic are the currencies that fuel this relationships and ofcourse these sort of relationship are what president use to gain influence, support and more when they want to pursue a particular agenda or make certain requests like upgrading an army or debt cancellation. |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 8:49pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
davidstones:Typical TANoids. Attacking the messenger instead of his message. All your rantings cannot stop THEFT from being a dishonest act used for personal gain = Corruption. No matter how much words you write, the truth remains the truth. Fraud, Theft and Bribery are all corrupt. How can you call someone pointing out a definition from a dictionary corrupt. I mean, when did quoting the dictionary become distortion of the truth. Accept it, GEJ proved to the world that he lacks intelligence. |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by oweman: 8:49pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
blemon44: Igbo race dont have the chance of ever ever producing a general of Buhari`s calibre (serious) Most igbo officers are either in transport ,education ,MRS (medical ) stores or the like even Ihejirika fell within these categories they are hardly infantry officers . |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 8:51pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
CaptPlanet:Gen. Buhari worked under Gen. Abacha's government and Gen. Buhari was still able to run a corrupt free PTF. Look for a better lie. |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 8:54pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
oweman:Do not make this about race. What I like about the last election was Muslims and Northerners putting their differences aside to vote GEJ because they thought he would make a good leader. In this election, I want those who believe in Gen. Buhari to vote him because he is a man who has this country in his heart. Let them vote Gen. Buhari because he represents change. Not because he is a Muslim or a Northerner. I am a southerner from Akwa Income State but Gen. Buhari has my vote because enough is enough of the wastage of National resources. |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by gateleo(m): 9:00pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Nicklaus: Let embrace peace 2 Likes |
Re: Tony Blair Confirms Meeting With Buhari-vanguard by osebe: 9:06pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
assureedu:shush! |
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