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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:46pm On Feb 25, 2015
agaugust:


NAF was refused entry into Ivory Coast by President Gbagbo yet we flew Alpha Jets into Abidjan, why did Ivorien air force not sh.oot NAF jets down?

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NAF cannot deploy its aircraft in contested air space.

Nigeria right can't deploy a heavy battalion sized outside its boarders.

Out of all African regions, SADC is the only blog that can deploy a brigade sized combat force.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:59pm On Feb 25, 2015
MikeCZAR:


11 Rooivalks.

The one you're talking about is stationed at SAAF's Test Flight and development centre.

Your air force can't deploy in a country were the air space is contested, as you lack or should I say you'd have no air traffic capability.

Also there's no command and control.

You have only 10 attack Helicopters.

We've deployed countless times, and still do in hostile airspaces.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:10pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:


You have only 10 attack Helicopters.

We've deployed countless times, and still do in hostile airspaces.

Flattening your head damaged your brain Igbo boy?

TFDC is a SAAF. What's your argument?

That one Rooivalk is not stationed in Bloemfontein with 16 Squadron?

Yes, one Gripen, Hawk, Cheetaah etc are also used at the TFDC.

You cannot deploy in contested air space. As you lack mobile air traffic control capabilities and radar coverage.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:17pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:


You have only 10 attack Helicopters.

We've deployed countless times, and still do in hostile airspaces.

Did you know: South Africa didn't have attack helicopter during the boarder war, while Angola and Cuba used many MI-24/35 and MI-17s?


Do you how many of their attack helicopters were downed without their commanders knowing what's killing them?

Ambushed by Impala LIFT.

How?

Radar coverage!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:33pm On Feb 25, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Flattening your head damaged your brain Igbo boy?

TFDC is a SAAF. What's your argument?

That one Rooivalk is not stationed in Bloemfontein with 16 Squadron?

Yes, one Gripen, Hawk, Cheetaah etc are also used at the TFDC.

You cannot deploy in contested air space. As you lack mobile air traffic control capabilities and radar coverage.

Come back and debate when you have more than "10" attack Helicopters.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 10:10pm On Feb 25, 2015
Msauza:


Man I really don't blame you because the white supremacists have fed you propaganda with the big spoon. I don't blame you because you are just another victim of a neocolonial oppression. The same white government that failed to provide housing, water, sanitation, roads, electricity to black people was excellent to your pea-sized brain. The very government that oppressed our parents by telling them that their workplace is only in the kitchen and garden. The very government that told them that they can't be doctors, engineers and managers. Now that the ANC is sending a poor black child to former white-only universities and turn them into doctors, engineers, lawyers, accountants and offer them jobs is wrong according to your wrongly structured brain. Now that your old white supremacist lose position to young black educated youngsters they are being labelled as inexperienced. We all must start somewhere, apartheid government has offered them that opportunity to learn and master their work, so what is wrong when the ANC does the same to young promising university black graduates? ANC has built Three big power stations which will kick start operations soon.


Nigeria is in permanent BLACKOUT. LOADSHEDDING happen everyday in Nigeria.
literate level for black South Africa is 36% yet the government says that all big companies must employ 75% blacks.
Where are they going to make up for the gap?

White companies who don't employ to the expectant percentage are denied license or are not given new contract.

Now the problem here is that there is a growing number of black southafricans who have a wrong sense of entitlement. Who don't even understand the diginity in labour.
Who live in a parasitic condition and think it's ok.


Blacks still have unemployment rate of 41% partly because government takes from the few wealthy white Europeans to feed the blacks.

Companies are now afraid because they have to meet the quota system and hire lots of unprofessional and unqualified blacks to avoid the hammer of ANC. A situation which has made many companies and firms to hire skilled and professional anglo-Dutch as freelance.

That reminds me......southafrica isn't a democracy. It's a pseudo democracy. The ANC is running a dictatorial government of touts.

Imagine Zuma singing the "kill the Boers with machine guns" in parliament?cheesycheesycheesycheesycheesycheesy

This is a country that hasn't yet passed the freedom of information bill.

And Desmond Tutu thinks the apartheid days are better off economically and socially....

and I was thinking hell yeah, even militarily.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:05pm On Feb 25, 2015
lezz:
what battle? another military glory thief has emerged.
Go look it up.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:16pm On Feb 25, 2015
MikeCZAR:
NAF cannot deploy its aircraft in contested air space.

Nigeria right can't deploy a heavy battalion sized outside its boarders.

Out of all African regions, SADC is the only blog that can deploy a brigade sized combat force.

SAAF cannot deploy ANY aircraft in contested airspace, ZERO aviation fuel

SANDF has never deployed a brigade to war zone in it's entire history.

Nigeria deployed 3 full brigades of 15,000 troops, armour, artilery, jet fighters, and warships in Liberia/Sierra Leone all at the same time into war.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:25pm On Feb 25, 2015
FighterPilot:



Do you want me to reveal avalanche of pictures of our modern weapons to you? Proudly made in RSA.

All you have to show as SANDF achievement is Hollywood photos....ZERO war experience....shame on you cowards
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:29pm On Feb 25, 2015
jln115:

Go look it up.
Thanks for the offer but I'll let it pass.
I'm sure the find won't be worth the effort.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:50am On Feb 26, 2015
Henry120:


You are dumb!

South-African companies =\= south-african defence industry.

All the defence companies are white owned and run.

How is Denel white owned and run?

What evidence do you have to support these claims?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:51am On Feb 26, 2015
Henry120:



Spy Cables expose S Africa's alarming security failings
Secret documents reveal an array of security lapses and flaws within South African government and intelligence.
Will Jordan | 24 Feb 2015 18:39 GMT | Spy Cables, South Africa
 658  202



South African government and security agencies have left secrets exposed at every level and foreign spies have access to all areas of government, according to Intelligence documents obtained by Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit.
A secret security assessment by South African intelligence says foreign espionage is booming, with more than 140 foreign spies estimated to be operating in South Africa - and that the South African state is doing a poor job of protecting itself.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/spy-cables-expose-south-africa-alarming-security-failings-guardian-ssa-150224162919994.html



Yeah, it's funny........ keep laughing, while 140 spy agencies have un-restricted access to the government of south-africa at all levels.

No, it says 140 SPIES

Learn to read before you come here and argue
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:52am On Feb 26, 2015
Henry120:



Spy Cables expose S Africa's alarming security failings
Secret documents reveal an array of security lapses and flaws within South African government and intelligence.
Will Jordan | 24 Feb 2015 18:39 GMT | Spy Cables, South Africa
 658  202



South African government and security agencies have left secrets exposed at every level and foreign spies have access to all areas of government, according to Intelligence documents obtained by Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit.
A secret security assessment by South African intelligence says foreign espionage is booming, with more than 140 foreign spies estimated to be operating in South Africa - and that the South African state is doing a poor job of protecting itself.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/spy-cables-expose-south-africa-alarming-security-failings-guardian-ssa-150224162919994.html



Yeah, it's funny........ keep laughing, while 140 spy agencies have un-restricted access to the government of south-africa at all levels.

No, it says 140 SPIES and it says nothing about "unrestricted access to the government of South Africa at all levels"

Dude, have you lost your mind?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:53am On Feb 26, 2015
agaugust:


.....than SANDF Elite Paratroopers and Special Forces who ran away with Sprikbok speedometer while Chadian army stayed behind confidently
.

Because Chad was a seleka ally and had nothing to fear
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:54am On Feb 26, 2015
agaugust:


20 years after apartheid ended and Nigerian led OAU forced your white lords to hand over power to you blacks and coloureds, you still depend on ANC government law to force South African companies to employ black m.o.rons as managers and directors with shares for positions you are not mentally or academically qualified to hold.....why?

20 years and you Soweto mumus still refuse to go to school and get good education, your genetically under-developed brains cannot cope with mathematics and sciences, millions of adult able bodied South African men still refuse to work, they want African immigrants to do all the work while Soweto lazy bones play parasite on government free cash and free housing for the lazy, there is plenty of food for lazy men in South Africa.

Tell me how that is the fault of the white man Boer master that gave you power to rule 20 years ago? Does the white man have to unlock your padlocked brains for you?

Government has to force companies to employ incompetent blacks, go and develop professional competence and sit on management chair based on merit, that's all we are saying, don't try to fool us by claiming blacks hold big positions in South African companies because they qualify for it, rather it's because you don't qualify but ANC insists you retaards must be on that job.

See how your reverse gear positioned brains ruined Eskom power systems and turned South Africa into the top candle burning nation in Africa...fools and domingos, parasites and liabilities to the nation !
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Augustus, how dare you complain about the devaluation of this thread and then go and post this.

Stay on topic, stop trolling, grow up.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:55am On Feb 26, 2015
Henry120:


South-African designed MRAP from where......... you must be day dreaming?

The Igirigi and CS/VP3 are constantly been supplied to the Nigerian Army.



Igirigi is 50% South African and 50% American grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:55am On Feb 26, 2015
Henry120:


Keep lying to yourself, Facts are clear.

What facts?

You have yet to present any
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:56am On Feb 26, 2015
Henry120:


That's the version you were fed.

The cables say an entirely different story. You ran a sham of a trail/prosecution.

The mossad got all they wanted,
Blue-print,
Chip,
Agent.



A good day's work at the office.

Where does it say Mossad got the chip? The blue print?

And, again, we stopped their operation before they could complete it and captured 2 operatives.

Has Nigeria ever done the same?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:57am On Feb 26, 2015
Henry120:


You have 10 half-french helicopters.

Nigerian Airforce has been deployed countless times in hostile terrains.

Name once the NAF deployed in a contested airspace with modern equipment
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 12:59am On Feb 26, 2015
TempyPusher:


Old tired prediction. Story repeated since the 90s. Try another one. Like how Boko Haram revealed the divisions between the north and the south in Nigeria - or between the haves and have nots (whichever you choose). We are talking "bombs, guns and pangas" divisions. Now that's real.

Malema is not like any leader you have had before and you know it...just admit you are scared.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:59am On Feb 26, 2015
agaugust:


NAF was refused entry into Ivory Coast by President Gbagbo yet we flew Alpha Jets into Abidjan, why did Ivorien air force not sh.oot NAF jets down?

SAAF has NEVER used Gripen Jet or Hawk Jets in any combat since you purchased them about 7 years ago. Reason why Egypt is now inviting Nigeria to come and help them fight ISIS in Libya, the Egyptians acted as if South African military does not even exist.....only a fool will ask military help for a big war from an SANDF that hardly ever leaves their bedrooms and wives, all they do is sit down redundant at home, make a few Hollywood photos, and make themselves judges of other African armies that are busy fighting wars.

Don't worry senior brother Egypt, big brother Nigeria is coming to help you in Libya, the two strongest military in Africa is now clear....

1. Egypt
2. Nigeria

Birds of the same feather flock together....South African military will flock with army of Botswana since they help you hide your Rhinos from poachers tonguetongue
.

What jets did the Ivory coast have to stop you?

Who said anything about Egypt asking you for assistance?

More delusions from the little boy hiding in his pearants basement pretending to be a mercenary accountant

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:00am On Feb 26, 2015
Henry120:


You have only 10 attack Helicopters.

We've deployed countless times, and still do in hostile airspaces.


Name one single deployment in a contested airspace

Provide a citation that states we only have 10

Henry120s new argument strategy: Just make things up
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 1:01am On Feb 26, 2015
FighterPilot:



Then you are damned crazy, because both my parents and their great great grand parents were born in SA. My maternal Irish grandfather came in SA when my mother's family was already for hundreds of years living in SA.
So if I go and live in China for 60 years without speaking one lick of Mandarin I am Chinese? Europeans are not African and you never will be no matter what. I can't wait to see Malema rise to power and wipe you all out, I might even travel down there to help the southies wipe you out.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:05am On Feb 26, 2015
agaugust:


SAAF cannot deploy ANY aircraft in contested airspace, ZERO aviation fuel

SANDF has never deployed a brigade to war zone in it's entire history.

Nigeria deployed 3 full brigades of 15,000 troops, armour, artilery, jet fighters, and warships in Liberia/Sierra Leone all at the same time into war.
.

SAAF has over 22 000 hours of jet fuel

Never deployed a Brigade in our history?

WW1: 136,000 (13 Divisions)
WW2: 334,000 (34 Divisions)
Angola: 20 000 (2 Divisions)

lol - you deployed all that and still were unable to defeat the rag tag RUF? top kek!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:06am On Feb 26, 2015
agaugust:


All you have to show as SANDF achievement is Hollywood photos....ZERO war experience....shame on you cowards
.

Lol, according to the little man above, peace-time is a bad thing

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:08am On Feb 26, 2015
ChukwuCantDie:
Malema is not like any leader you have had before and you know it...just admit you are scared.

Why would we be scared of a man with less than 10% of the vote?

O yeah - i forgot - Nigerians dont understand democracy

In anycase, Malema has been very clear that he wants (and needs) White South Africans to stay. He has even gone as far as appealing to the white elite in Cape Town for political contributions.

You dont understand our politics.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:09am On Feb 26, 2015
ChukwuCantDie:
So if I go and live in China for 60 years without speaking one lick of Mandarin I am Chinese? Europeans are not African and you never will be no matter what. I can't wait to see Malema rise to power and wipe you all out, I might even travel down there to help the southies wipe you out.

According to Thabo Mbeki they are South African.

No one said anything about whites being African, we are more concerned with them being South African.

We South Africans conceptualize our state before anything else. You backwards nigerians are too focused on such trivial tribal matters.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:26am On Feb 26, 2015
Patchesagain:


According to Thabo Mbeki they are South African.

No one said anything about whites being African, we are more concerned with them being South African.

We South Africans conceptualize our state before anything else. You backwards nigerians are too focused on such trivial tribal matters.
confused lots

they are south africans, but you want to grab land from them

they are south africans, the fact that they control majority of the country's wealth is an issue.

i hope you vote them president next election. Iol

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:27am On Feb 26, 2015
Msauza:


Man I really don't blame you because the white supremacists have fed you propaganda with the big spoon. I don't blame you because you are just another victim of a neocolonial oppression. The same white government that failed to provide housing, water, sanitation, roads, electricity to black people was excellent to your pea-sized brain. The very government that oppressed our parents by telling them that their workplace is only in the kitchen and garden. The very government that told them that they can't be doctors, engineers and managers. Now that the ANC is sending a poor black child to former white-only universities and turn them into doctors, engineers, lawyers, accountants and offer them jobs is wrong according to your wrongly structured brain. Now that your old white supremacist lose position to young black educated youngsters they are being labelled as inexperienced. We all must start somewhere, apartheid government has offered them that opportunity to learn and master their work, so what is wrong when the ANC does the same to young promising university black graduates? ANC has built Three big power stations which will kick start operations soon.


Nigeria is in permanent BLACKOUT. LOADSHEDDING happen everyday in Nigeria.


Thanks, you killed him before I finally put my SANDF boot on his ugly face.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:32am On Feb 26, 2015
iterator24:
confused lots

they are south africans, but you want to grab land from them

they are south africans, the fact that they control majority of the country's wealth is an issue.

i hope you vote them president next election. Iol



We don't want to grab the land, Mugabe.grabs the land. We sought to redistribute the land and transfer the remaining portion to the ownership of the government. The government will then only have lease the land to those who work it to produce food.

Sorry, it is very unlikely that Malema can be voted to power.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:43am On Feb 26, 2015
ChukwuCantDie:
So if I go and live in China for 60 years without speaking one lick of Mandarin I am Chinese? Europeans are not African and you never will be no matter what. I can't wait to see Malema rise to power and wipe you all out, I might even travel down there to help the southies wipe you out.

You see where you go wrong. SA has eleven official languages two of them being English and Afrikaans. Why do I have to speak Zulu in order to prove that I am a bona fide SA. In your case you speak of someone who was born in another country and emigrated to China and live there for 60 years. Of course, that person will still be a citizen of his country of birth.

Now, in my case my great, great, grandparents arrived in SA many years ago when Nigeria was still a bush then. My mommy's father is an Irish whose parents had SA citizenship and relocated to the UK. My grandfather then decided to come back to SA and settle in Durban where he met my light complexioned zulu grandmother who was born in SA, their matrimony produced my mother and siblings. My partenal family is made of Malay and Coloured people. So, how does that make me a foreigner?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:05am On Feb 26, 2015
iterator24:
confused lots

they are south africans, but you want to grab land from them

they are south africans, the fact that they control majority of the country's wealth is an issue.

i hope you vote them president next election. Iol

O
It's a lot more complicated than that.

Time made us Africans not money.

And if that so what.

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