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Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by myproperty(m): 11:26pm On Mar 13, 2015
paxonel:
to deliberately live and abide in sin is not a good thing,we will suffer the consequence like anyone else if we do. This is the judgement of this world. whoever break the law must go for it.
that's why Christianity do not promote sin like you say.
But in the spirit realm where our justification lies it's a different thing entirely. we are justified by our faith (which is Christianity ) into eternal life, not by the law or any of our good action in this physical life.
so, if you are good you will enjoy your eternal life on earth.
if you are bad you will suffer your eternal life on earth.
there is suffering in heaven.
it's as simple as that
You said God is not judging our sin anymore and I am saying that is a pure lie.
Romans 2:6-10

.......... but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil.................
2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(op): 12:57am On Mar 14, 2015
myproperty:
You said God is not judging our sin anymore and I am saying that is a pure lie.
Romans 2:6-10

.......... but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil.................
2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.
what i mean by God is not judging our sin anymore is, God is not putting any christian in lake of fire.He made us to be righteous through Christ.
Not that God will not judge us on judgement day.
Even after the judgement we were justified because our name was in the book of life, not because of our works.
we have obeyed the truth by believing what Paul preached which is Christ. unlike the jews in romans 2:6-10.
By this, our name is in the book of life
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by myproperty(m): 11:30pm On Mar 14, 2015
paxonel:
what i mean by God is not judging our sin anymore is, God is not putting any christian in lake of fire.He made us to be righteous through Christ.
Not that God will not judge us on judgement day.
Even after the judgement we were justified because our name was in the book of life, not because of our works.
we have obeyed the truth by believing what Paul preached which is Christ. unlike the jews in romans 2:6-10.
By this, our name is in the book of life
you are not consistent with your statement.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(op):
myproperty:
you are not consistent with your statement.
you quoted 2cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ...
i am telling you that this is not the kind of judgement i was talking about when i say God is not judging us anymore.
I am talking about the kind of judgement Jesus meant when he said judge not so that you will not be judged, meaning, be merciful so that you will obtain mercy at the time you sin
2 cor 5:10 is judgement to prove that people were actually guilty of sin just like what is obtainable in the court of law.
But the kind of judgement i mean is after we were proven to be actually guilty of sin, God is merciful not to put us in lake of fire because of Christ.
Another name for this kind of judgement is being merciful.
The statement of Jesus "today you will be with me in paradise " on the cross to the thief that was about to be crucified is actually a judgement ( verdict ).
judgement can also be seen as a verdict.
note: the guy has already been proven guilty before then
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by myproperty(m): 9:27am On Mar 15, 2015
paxonel:
you quoted 2cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ...
i am telling you that this is not the kind of judgement i was talking about when i say God is not judging us anymore.
I am talking about the kind of judgement Jesus meant when he said judge not so that you will not be judged, meaning, be merciful so that you will obtain mercy at the time you sin
2 cor 5:10 is judgement to prove that people were actually guilty of sin just like what is obtainable in the court of law.
But the kind of judgement i mean is after we were proven to be actually guilty of sin, God is merciful not to put us in lake of fire because of Christ.
Another name for this kind of judgement is being merciful.
The statement of Jesus "today you will be with me in paradise " on the cross to the thief that was about to be crucified is actually a judgement ( verdict ).
judgement can also be seen as a verdict.
note: the guy has already been proven guilty before then
You are now telling me that the judgement in 2cor 5:10 is nothing buy a formality.
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by Proximo73: 12:33pm On Mar 15, 2015
paxonel:
thanks for the correction!
i was trying to say that he will suffer the sin in the life he commited the sin but he is free after death
thanks too!
i must say i am learning a lot from you
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(op): 1:24pm On Mar 15, 2015
myproperty:
You are now telling me that the judgement in 2cor 5:10 is nothing buy a formality.
i didn't say so
read my last comment again
Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(op): 1:26pm On Mar 15, 2015
Proximo73:
thanks too!
i must say i am learning a lot from you
thanks!
i am happy to know this
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