Msauza:


The truth shall set you free and denialist agenda shall send you into destruction.

More of the truth shall come out bit by bit and we shall always paste it here.

The truth is available to even the blind man on the streets in our North East frontiers! That truth is reflected in the FREEDOM and palpable celebrations in the NE typified by the high PRAISES being showered on NA warriors on the ground!

I understand you are hurt. Some therapy from your heavy duty magosha in Tembisa will help. Hopefully you don't contact HIV.

ukemeramat:
I don't know on what basics this argument was started in the first place. [s]I am a Nigerian But south africa is like ages above nigeria. the comparison cannot be argued. though nigeria is richer than south africa but nigerias problem lies with our greedy politician who only know how to loot and this present administration has made it worst. nobody wants to be associated with a failed state and nigeria is a fail state under this present administration..... south africans, please rock your world, you guys deserve to above nigeria in every aspect... nigerian army cant stand SANDF sophisticated and modernised equipment anyday with just their rickety AK47. BOKO haram is enough headache[/s]

Why not do your research ... gain the required knowledge and then come back to make well research comments? Right now all I read from you is ignorance!

Stupidity of the HIGHEST ORDER AGAIN. Instead of blogging about Nigerian army you have stooped to your low level again.
Over 55 years of FUCKERY, TRIBALISM,RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY hasn't helped. I won't mind showing off SA SOCALLED TOWNSHIPS AND SOCALLED SMALL TOWNS VS your Biafra SLUMS.

In SA other Nigerians laugh at you Igbos and other SE Nigerians as they know you come from SLUMS.
VISIT UN HABITAT,UNDP,WHO and see stats... assholes from SLUMS like Enugu,Nnewi,Asaba,Abia etc..those are all SLUMS by SADC standards.

NaijaPikinGidi:


The truth is available to even the blind man on the streets in our North East frontiers! That truth is reflected in the FREEDOM and palpable celebrations in the NE typified by the high PRAISES being showered on NA warriors on the ground!

I understand you are hurt. Some theraphy from your heavy duty magosha in Tembisa will help. Hopefully you don't contact HIV.

SE Nigerian SLUMS theyr all called cities by their LOW STANDARDS. Actually there are threads on Nairaland about SE Nigerian SLUMS/Cities by their standards where SW Nigerians and other Africans laugh at the sorry states.

SE Nigerian slums...Naijapikidi homw town...hes lives in that RUBBISH...

Chukwucandie's mom looking for food for him...TRAPED IN POVERTY.
Onitsha one of their SE Nigerian SLUMS....

everyday life in SE Nigeria...rubbish rats...like Chukwu.

hey this is the northern city Kano MUD TOWNS OF NIGERIA.

More Onitsha and their cops
They're UNORGANIZED PROOF IS THE SPACES THEY LIVE IN "CHAOS". UNORGANIZED SINCE 1960.

This is the reason they have BOKO HARAM, MASSOB,MEND etc...POVERTY. Nothing else. their middle class stands at 4,1 million after over 55 years... thats lesser than SA Black middle class alone thats stands over 6 million people and spends over $ 6 billion per annum. thats higher than many African GDPs

http://www.academia.edu/4036100/The_Economic_Development_of_Nigeria_from_1914_to_2014

dieantwordRSA:
Am leaving the office MduZA chaoo!!!!!!!

eyaaaah!!! you are not getting attention? sorry.

dieantwordRSA:
Am leaving the office MduZA chaoo!!!!!!!

lol

NaijaPikinGidi:


Why not do your research ... gain the required knowledge and then come back to make well research comments? Right now all I read from you is ignorance!

@NAIJAPIKINGIDI... i don't mean u any insult...i was formally in the creeks against naija army so i have more experience than u.... don't ever in your wildest dreams, compare Nigeria to south africa. it's that way because south Africa has power and can steadily cool some of this sophisticated equipment. how can you compare the AK47's and AKM's to the south africans R4 and R5? TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR BALLISTIC WEAPONS. look at their police department. bros, the more u try to compare, the more embarrassed u will become.Direct your grievances to your nitwit leaders not the south Africans. our civilian govt were scared of empowering the army because they were afraid of coup, now look at the mediocrity military that we have now. filled with unprofessional elements and corrupt generals

Patchesagain:


I am waiting

Kits
Kit standardisation
The refusal of some troops to wear their kits.
Size of AOR : 15,000km
Weather : 30 - 45 degress
#Bama battle
Kits
Nigeria is a large country with different types of terrain, topography and general climatic conditions.
while the south is swampy, with hundreds of delta's and mangroves, the middle belt is savannah with a cool/mild temprature, while the far north is dry, hot, mountainous( north-east), in some areas desert and generally un-forgiven.

What this means is, unlike South-Africa it is impossible for Nigeria to have a single camo.
So, if troops are moved from Division 2 in the east to the 7 Division in the north-east, they don't magically appear with desert camo. They would have to be issued new Camos, and logistics takes time.

The Nigeria army uses
1)Woodland camo (old)
2)Woodland camo (new)
3)Desert camo (new)
4)Desert camo (old)
5)New Desert camo recenty introduced to help with standardisation in the North-East.

Kit standardisation in AOR
Why can't there be a kit standardisation in the North-East?
Simple "Nigeria" won't allow it. Like I pointed out, Nigeria is a vast country, and troops get rotated a lot in Nigeria. As the move along, they move along with their basic kits, which mostly is woodland camo.
There is also the problem of availability. In many cases local production of kits can't meet local demand. What this means is, kits would invariably have to be outsource, hence the discrepancies in camo.
To deal with this problem the Army signed an MoU with a local firm for the manufacture and supply of an entirely new type of camo. Hence the new camo troops now wear.

The refusal of troops to wear their kits in bama.
The AOR is 15,000km in size, this is the size of Scotland and wales.
Borno state is the biggest state in Nigeria, it is the size of Togo and Benin republic joined together.
The Kits used by the Army is made by DICON or local manufacturers.
The climatic conditions in the AOR are amongst the worst in the world. The North-East is hot, dry, dusty and and harsh. With temperatures toping 45 degrees.
Soldiers in bama had earlier in their forward momentum cleared mafa, Marte etc local governments. It has been a long daily and mostly sleepless operations. With troops suffering from tiredness and fatigue.
In this state, I don't see how troops who are expected to again mobilise, and engage the enemy in bama to come to battle feeling very weak and battle weary.
The mobilisation to bama included a 4KM walk for troops with over 1200 areas mined. This mean a 4KM journey is now 30-40km in actual sense.

They ought to be in the right state of mind to engage the enemy, when the get to known enemy location. If this means travelling light, it is not only advised, but might also be their only saving grace from collapse.

Soldiers travelled light in Bama because most of them chose to, there is absolutely nothing to fault in this decision.

Patchesagain:


Maybe the Ambrear as our tanker?

It could make a great tanker/EW/CnC platform

they are allready pushing hard for us to get it (see pic)

It would be better if we co-develop the thing, or produced an S.A version of it here like the Badger or at least produce south of it components.

Henry120:


Kits
Kit standardisation
The refusal of some troops to wear their kits.
Size of AOR : 15,000km
Weather : 30 - 45 degress
#Bama battle
Kits
Nigeria is a large country with different types of terrain, topography and general climatic conditions.
while the south is swampy, with hundreds of delta's and mangroves, the middle belt is savannah with a cool/mild temprature, while the far north is dry, hot, mountainous( north-east), in some areas desert and generally un-forgiven.

What this means is, unlike South-Africa it is impossible for Nigeria to have a single camo.
So, if troops are moved from Division 2 in the east to the 7 Division in the north-east, they don't magically appear with desert camo. They would have to be issued new Camos, and logistics takes time.

The Nigeria army uses
1)Woodland camo (old)
2)Woodland camo (new)
3)Desert camo (new)
4)Desert camo (old)
5)New Desert camo recenty introduced to help with standardisation in the North-East.

Kit standardisation in AOR
Why can't there be a kit standardisation in the North-East?
Simple "Nigeria" won't allow it. Like I pointed out, Nigeria is a vast country, and troops get rotated a lot in Nigeria. As the move along, they move along with their basic kits, which mostly is woodland camo.
There is also the problem of availability. In many cases local production of kits can't meet local demand. What this means is, kits would invariably have to be outsource, hence the discrepancies in camo.
To deal with this problem the Army signed an MoU with a local firm for the manufacture and supply of an entirely new type of camo. Hence the new camo troops now wear.

The refusal of troops to wear their kits in bama.
The AOR is 15,000km in size, this is the size of Scotland and wales.
Borno state is the biggest state in Nigeria, it is the size of Togo and Benin republic joined together.
The Kits used by the Army is made by DICON or local manufacturers.
The climatic conditions in the AOR are amongst the worst in the world. The North-East is hot, dry, dusty and and harsh. With temperatures toping 45 degrees.
Soldiers in bama had earlier in their forward momentum cleared mafa, Marte etc local governments. It has been a long daily and mostly sleepless operations. With troops suffering from tiredness and fatigue.
In this state, I don't see how troops who are expected to again mobilise, and engage the enemy in bama to come to battle feeling very weak and battle weary.
The mobilisation to bama included a 4KM walk for troops with over 1200 areas mined. This mean a 4KM journey is now 30-40km in actual sense.

They ought to be in the right state of mind to engage the enemy, when the get to known enemy location. If this means travelling light, it is not only advised, but might also be their only saving grace from collapse.

Soldiers travelled light in Bama because most of them chose to, there is absolutely nothing to fault in this decision.

Most u explain...if they say u must kit up to win war...let SADF come to borno and try it...we shall see...

Have u seen Nigerian Military training...do u see how they kitted...ull fill for them...do u knw the size of borno...wat am I saying sef...even lagos it will take weeks for the military to clean it up talkless of borno...siriusblack said sambissa alone will swallow a whole division talkless of a battalion...

ukemeramat:
I don't know on what basics this argument was started in the first place. I am a Nigerian But south africa is like ages above nigeria. the comparison cannot be argued. though nigeria is richer than south africa but nigerias problem lies with our greedy politician who only know how to loot and this present administration has made it worst. nobody wants to be associated with a failed state and nigeria is a fail state under this present administration..... south africans, please rock your world, you guys deserve to above nigeria in every aspect... nigerian army cant stand SANDF sophisticated and modernised equipment anyday with just their rickety AK47. BOKO haram is enough headache

Ignorance is a dirty disease.

Continue wallowing in your moronic state, you have all our permission.

ukemeramat:

@NAIJAPIKINGIDI... i don't mean u any insult...i was formally in the creeks against naija army so i have more experience than u.... don't ever in your wildest dreams, compare Nigeria to south africa. it's that way because south Africa has power and can steadily cool some of this sophisticated equipment. how can you compare the AK47's and AKM's to the south africans R4 and R5? TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR BALLISTIC WEAPONS. look at their police department. bros, the more u try to compare, the more embarrassed u will become.Direct your grievances to your nitwit leaders not the south Africans. our civilian govt were scared of empowering the army because they were afraid of coup, now look at the mediocrity military that we have now. filled with unprofessional elements and corrupt generals

If I most say...ur foolishness has no grade...no offense...do u live in Nigeria...do u wanna knw our military more than us...can sadf endure all we have endured...can ur country endure pain.....I blame our leaders that give SA to come here to run their mouth like a boost pipe in "MUSHIN GUTTER"...Arm of rubbish

ukemeramat:

@NAIJAPIKINGIDI... i don't mean u any insult...i was formally in the creeks against naija army so i have more experience than u.... don't ever in your wildest dreams, compare Nigeria to south africa. it's that way because south Africa has power and can steadily cool some of this sophisticated equipment. how can you compare the AK47's and AKM's to the south africans R4 and R5? TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR BALLISTIC WEAPONS. look at their police department. bros, the more u try to compare, the more embarrassed u will become.Direct your grievances to your nitwit leaders not the south Africans. our civilian govt were scared of empowering the army because they were afraid of coup, now look at the mediocrity military that we have now. filled with unprofessional elements and corrupt generals

If I most say...ur foolishness has no grade...no offense...do u live in Nigeria...do u wanna knw our military more than us...can sadf endure all we have endured...can ur country endure pain.....I blame our leaders that give SA to come here to run their mouth like a boost pipe in "MUSHIN GUTTER"...Arm of rubbish...weapons don't win war preserverance determination willingness to die wins wars..

Peace

Thiza:
HELP NIGERIA SOUTH AFRICA

South African military needs to help itself first, you have over 30 battalions of half dead soldiers struggling with HIV in their blood. Save yourselves first
.

ukemeramat:

@NAIJAPIKINGIDI... i don't mean u any insult...i was formally in the creeks against naija army so i have more experience than u.... don't ever in your wildest dreams, compare Nigeria to south africa. it's that way because south Africa has power and can steadily cool some of this sophisticated equipment. how can you compare the AK47's and AKM's to the south africans R4 and R5? TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR BALLISTIC WEAPONS. look at their police department. bros, the more u try to compare, the more embarrassed u will become.Direct your grievances to your nitwit leaders not the south Africans. our civilian govt were scared of empowering the army because they were afraid of coup, now look at the mediocrity military that we have now. filled with unprofessional elements and corrupt generals

i am sure you are one of those fishing port born throwey who they just gave a gun to fight.just look at the rubbish you just typed.

NaijaPikinGidi:


The truth is available to even the blind man on the streets in our North East frontiers! That truth is reflected in the FREEDOM and palpable celebrations in the NE typified by the high PRAISES being showered on NA warriors on the ground!

I understand you are hurt. Some theraphy from your heavy duty magosha in Tembisa will help. Hopefully you don't contact HIV.

Tell the truth and it shall set you free. Mercenaries have added tremendous value to your military successes.

agaugust:


South African military needs to help itself first, you have over 30 battalions of half dead soldiers struggling with HIV in their blood. Save yourselves first
.

Bwahahaha… HIV is Africa's problem which Nigeria is part of. Enugu has high number of people living with HIV including the soldiers and the worst of all is that they do not even receive free treatment from the government.

Msauza:


Tell the truth and it shall set you free. Mercenaries have added tremendous value to your military successes.

Pls show me a pic or video...showing mercenaries fighting for us and ill keep quiet forever...even the pix and videos released by foreign media nvr showed mercs fighting for us..


I think SA folks r angry with us for something show ur grieviances...let us nw...cause as at nw..u have not point against us...

U come here to discredit our military...what rivalry do u have with us cause the world recognize us more than u folks..

Haba...we r brothers...we look out for each other...and now ur coming here to spit on our faces...

This is really bad

jln115:

Dont get emotional bro!!im just stating the facts!

why get emotional over facts by saffers themselves?

asuoka:


Pls show me a pic or video...showing mercenaries fighting for us and ill keep quiet forever...even the pix and videos released by foreign media nvr showed mercs fighting for us..


I think SA folks r angry with us for something show ur grieviances...let us nw...cause as at nw..u have not point against us...

U come here to discredit our military...what rivalry do u have with us cause the world recognize us more than u folks..

Haba...we r brothers...we look out for each other...and now ur coming here to spit on our faces...

This is really bad

yeah the world recognizes you that's why you were given an opportunity to host the 2010 FIFA world cup on behalf of Africa....

ukemeramat:

@NAIJAPIKINGIDI... i don't mean u any insult...i was formally in the creeks against naija army so i have more experience than u.... don't ever in your wildest dreams, compare Nigeria to south africa. it's that way because south Africa has power and can steadily cool some of this sophisticated equipment. how can you compare the AK47's and AKM's to the south africans R4 and R5? TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR BALLISTIC WEAPONS. look at their police department. bros, the more u try to compare, the more embarrassed u will become.Direct your grievances to your nitwit leaders not the south Africans. our civilian govt were scared of empowering the army because they were afraid of coup, now look at the mediocrity military that we have now. filled with unprofessional elements and corrupt generals

Niger Delta militant? You said it all. Wetin pursue you commot from creeks of Niger Delta?
This thread is on page 1926 and has generated enough material to educate you.

Otherwise, just enjoy your ignorance ... as I no get your time!!

Nigerdeltaboi:
i am sure you are one of those fishing port born throwey who they just gave a gun to fight.just look at the rubbish you just typed.

Thank you all, i mean you no insult...but you guys are beclouded with sentiments...please direct your grievances to the govt, even our govt sold us out to south africa( through NCC- DSTV and MTN) and Cameroon (BaKASSI). the govt refused funding DICON properly, they could produce advanced AK47's and even nigerian version of T-21's. i have been there before and i have seen their capability but lack of funding. stop blind argument and start holding your govt responsible for their irresponsibility. they left the military the way it is today. they dragged the military in politics... let me don't say further , i don't argue on internet.

NaijaPikinGidi:


Niger Delta militant? You said it all. Wetin pursue you commot from creeks of Niger Delta?
This thread is on page 1926 and has generated enough material to educate you.

Otherwise, just enjoy your ignorance ... as I no get your time!!

Thank you all, i mean you no insult...but you guys are beclouded with sentiments...please direct your grievances to the govt, even our govt sold us out to south africa( through NCC- DSTV and MTN) and Cameroon (BaKASSI). the govt refused funding DICON properly, they could produce advanced AK47's and even nigerian version of T-21's. i have been there before and i have seen their capability but lack of funding. stop blind argument and start holding your govt responsible for their irresponsibility. they left the military the way it is today. they dragged the military in politics... let me don't say further , i don't argue on internet.

Nigerdeltaboi:
i am sure you are one of those fishing port born throwey who they just gave a gun to fight.just look at the rubbish you just typed.

Thank you all, i mean you no insult...but you guys are beclouded with sentiments...please direct your grievances to the govt, even our govt sold us out to south africa( through NCC- DSTV and MTN) and Cameroon (BaKASSI). the govt refused funding DICON properly, they could produce advanced AK47's and even nigerian version of T-21's. i have been there before and i have seen their capability but lack of funding. stop blind argument and start holding your govt responsible for their irresponsibility. they left the military the way it is today. they dragged the military in politics... let me don't say further , i don't argue on internet.