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agaugust:
How many troops does SANDF have in Congo DRC, and how many are combatants among them, or your vehicle drivers, mechanics, cooks, nurses, and army female prostitutes also fight in battle firing rifles?

Out of the 80,000 soldiers in SANDF armed forces combined, less than 900 have fired R4 rifle in battle since the day they were born by their mothers.

You have an internet based virtual army called SANDF, bunch of rookies with ZERO war experience
.

The whole 50 000 Army personnel have fired R4 either in battle or in the battle school, the only battle school in Africa.

Msauza:
The last people we should listen to are Nigerian government personnel. We know the truth and we can never be deviated from it.

Sorry, your opinion doesn't doesn't count.

Msauza:
BOTH BLACK AND WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN MERCENARIES ARE FACING ARREST ON THEIR WAY BACK HOME.

[b] JOHANNESBURG ( AA) – South African
mercenaries fighting the Boko Haram militant
group in Nigeria could face arrest when they
return home, experts have warned.
“What they are doing is illegal under South
African law,” Jakkie Cilliers, executive director of
the Institute for Security Studies, told The
Anadolu Agency on Friday.
He said South Africa’s Foreign Military
Assistance Act prohibited South African citizens
from engaging in combat activities abroad.
“The reason why Nigeria employed these South
Africans is because they were successful in
fighting in Angola against UNITA and in Sierra
Leone against the RUF,” he said in reference to
two African rebel groups.
Cilliers said that most of the mercenaries had
previously served in the South African Defense
Force during the apartheid era.
“There are both black and white mercenaries,” he
said when asked by AA about the mercenaries’
backgrounds.
The media has reported that hundreds of
mercenaries from South Africa and other
countries were fighting alongside Nigerian forces
against Boko Haram militants.
The reports, some of which quoted senior
regional officials in West Africa, claimed that the
mercenaries – with the use of attack helicopters
and armored personnel carriers – were currently
fighting to retake towns and villages captured by
the militant group.
Recent media reports have also quoted South
African Defense Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-
Nqakula as saying that South Africans helping
the Nigerian army against Boko Haram should
we arrested upon their return home.

-Denial-

Asked if he thought that the mercenaries’
activities could put South Africans at risk of
attacks by militant groups, Cilliers said, “I don’t
think so.”
“The government has strongly condemned them;
they are there on their own,” he said.
Meanwhile, the South African National Defense
Force (SANDF) reiterated on Friday that it did
not have any troops in West Africa.
“The South African government has not sent
anybody to Nigeria. There are no South African
troops anywhere in West Africa,” SANDF Head of
Communications Siphiwe Dlamni told AA.
“These people [mercenaries] are not our
responsibility. We deal with uniformed people in
the SANDF,” he said.
Dlamni added that they would be prosecuted if
they were found to have broken any South
African laws.
In the past, former South African soldiers who
had served under the country’s former apartheid
regime have been accused of working as
mercenaries in different parts of the world.
Earlier Friday, the Nigerian authorities denied
reports that mercenaries were helping army
troops in their fight against Boko Haram.
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author and not necessarily those of the
publishers. – Newstime Africa content cannot be
reproduced in any form – electronic or print –
without prior consent of the Publishers.
Copyright infringement will be pursued and
perpetrators prosecuted.[/b]


http://www.newstimeafrica.com/archives/38109

More opinions, no facts. Mechanic contractors arrested for lying under bonnets

Will be embarrassing for the SA government when the truth comes out.

rka1:
More opinions, no facts. Mechanic contractors arrested for lying under bonnets

Will be embarrassing for the SA government when the truth comes out.

The mechanic narrative is just a cover up. Since when did former soldiers went to technical colleges to learn how to be technicians? Nigeria is doing all it could to cover the tracks of the activities of mercenaries, but most often their explanations is contradictory. One says they were mechanics, another say technicians and the government spokesperson now say they are trainers who were contracted to train Nigerian soldiers. Different version of evidence is what you get.


Meanwhile, the wife of the dead mercenary, Mr Lotz confirmed that the husband was a fighter, a mercenary and has been in Iraq doing mercenary work. Nigeria is trying to cover the tracks concerning the death of Mr Lotz who was killed by incompetent Nigerian troops who panicked and fired a shot prematurely without having to double check the target.

Looks like SA could have done with the mechanics contracted by Nigeria

Cuban technicians bringing SA Army trucks back to life

Written by Guy Martin, Monday, 16 March 2015


Cuban mechanics assisting SA Army mechanics.Almost a hundred Cuban technicians are working with the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) to maintain and preserve Army, Air Force and SA Military Health Service equipment, with the Cuban technicians already working on refurbishing 130 Army trucks.

Ninety-three Cuban technicians arrived in South Africa last month, including nine with the SA Army’s 102 Field Workshop in Potchefstroom. At the moment Samil trucks from Wallmansthal are being refurbished but other vehicles may be repaired at a later stage.

130 vehicles have been earmarked for refurbishment but the SANDF is looking at overhauling 250 trucks. Three vehicles have been completely refurbished so far with others in the works. The first vehicle, a Samil 20, had 250 hours of work done on it involving the engine, differentials, electrical system, pneumatic system, bodywork etc.

Technical maintenance repairs are being done in Potchefstroom while a Cuban detachment in Bloemfontein is looking at storage and preservation of vehicles. There is another team in Pretoria examining preservation procedures.

The Cubans were invited to South Africa on a year-long contract to both refurbish vehicles and assist the SANDF build capacity and train mechanics. “The SANDF has had numerous problems with our vehicles,” SANDF spokesman Siphiwe Dlamini said, adding that it has been trying to fix the vehicles through external service providers. “Our vehicles get fixed but two to three weeks down the line they are stuck on the road.”

“The Cubans are here to assist us fix the vehicles and create capacity within the defence force so we can do the fixing and maintenance repairs ourselves,” Dlamini told a media delegation in Potchefstroom on Friday. “Until we create capacity ourselves we will be forced to continue to rely on external service providers.”

The Cubans are not just refurbishing vehicles - they have five goals: to organise fleet management, organise technical support, deactivate old vehicles, preserve vehicles and perform maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) activities.

Brigadier General Elvis Mathaba, Director of Army Logistics, said that the Cubans in particular were invited to assist the SANDF for several reasons: they are cost effective; private industry is reluctant to pass on skills to the SANDF; Cuba helped South Africa during the Struggle years and still has good relations with South Africa; and Cuba has been able to keep its own military vehicles running in spite of half a century of sanctions.

Mathaba said the poor state of the SANDF’s vehicles was due to a lack of maintenance, repair and overhaul. A skills shortage has compounded the problem and this Cubans will help address this.

Poor vehicle serviceability has financially impacted on the SANDF as the United Nations does not reimburse the military for unserviceable vehicles used on international peacekeeping deployments. The SANDF has equipment deployed in Darfur and the Democratic Republic of Congo with UN missions there.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38380

agaugust:
You demolish nothing

I don't owe you answer of where I got missile screenshots from, am I your servant to obey your command? I got images, I posted, anyone who is angry can go jump into river Zambezi.

The mercenaries in the Maiduguri photos drive a South African MRAP same way Americans, Yemenis, Nigerians, etc all drive South African MRAPs.

Until you prove those white men's true nationalities, they are NOT South Africans.....and who cares anyway, NO MERCENARY is doing combat in Nigeria's war.

However, I admit that Nigeria uses the whiteheads of South Africa for casual labour duties, live with that even if it hurts whatever remains of your shattered national pride
.

As usual....Augustine starts off strong (in his head) and finishes weak. I will make u close your mouth on topics each and every time....i repeat. You will end up posting paragraph after paragraph of uselessness.


Infact let me rather say keep TROLLING. You have proven on Beegeagle blog where your true emotions come out.

Msauza:
The mechanic narrative is just a cover up. Since when did former soldiers went to technical colleges to learn how to be technicians? Nigeria is doing all it could to cover the tracks of the activities of mercenaries, but most often their explanations is contradictory. One says they were mechanics, another say technicians and the government spokesperson now say they are trainers who were contracted to train Nigerian soldiers. Different version of evidence is what you get.


Meanwhile, the wife of the dead mercenary, Mr Lotz confirmed that the husband was a fighter, a mercenary and has been in Iraq doing mercenary work. Nigeria is trying to cover the tracks concerning the death of Mr Lotz who was killed by incompetent Nigerian troops who panicked and fired a shot prematurely without having double checked the target.

You know more than the CoAS abi?

The over 200 girls were kidnapped from their hostels at the Government Secondary School, Chibok, Borno State on April 14 2014.
Mr. Minimah also denied that Nigeria hired mercenaries to fight Boko Haram.
He said there are only military advisers and instructors meant to maintain the newly-acquired security equipment.
“Whenever you have new equipment, the equipment come with contract and the contract
include maintenance and the technicians that come with them are those that we hire,” he said.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/178639-nigerian-military-found-no-sign-of-chibok-girls-in-recaptured-territories-army-chief.html

rka1:
You know more than the CoAS abi?

The over 200 girls were kidnapped from their hostels at the Government Secondary School, Chibok, Borno State on April 14 2014.
Mr. Minimah also denied that Nigeria hired mercenaries to fight Boko Haram.
He said there are only military advisers and instructors meant to maintain the newly-acquired security equipment.
“Whenever you have new equipment, the equipment come with contract and the contract
include maintenance and the technicians that come with them are those that we hire,” he said.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/178639-nigerian-military-found-no-sign-of-chibok-girls-in-recaptured-territories-army-chief.html

Mr Minimah yet he failed to explain how did Mr Lotz who was recently in Iraq doing mercenary work ended up in Nigeria. Mr Lotz was not contracted to any defence industry and was neither an engineer nor technician. Mr Lotz died in company of other soldiers, so one can ask how did civilian mechanic ended up in company of other soldiers wearing military camouflage.

rka1:
Looks like SA could have done with the mechanics contracted by Nigeria

Cuban technicians bringing SA Army trucks back to life

Written by Guy Martin, Monday, 16 March 2015


Cuban mechanics assisting SA Army mechanics.Almost a hundred Cuban technicians are working with the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) to maintain and preserve Army, Air Force and SA Military Health Service equipment, with the Cuban technicians already working on refurbishing 130 Army trucks.

Ninety-three Cuban technicians arrived in South Africa last month, including nine with the SA Army’s 102 Field Workshop in Potchefstroom. At the moment Samil trucks from Wallmansthal are being refurbished but other vehicles may be repaired at a later stage.

130 vehicles have been earmarked for refurbishment but the SANDF is looking at overhauling 250 trucks. Three vehicles have been completely refurbished so far with others in the works. The first vehicle, a Samil 20, had 250 hours of work done on it involving the engine, differentials, electrical system, pneumatic system, bodywork etc.

Technical maintenance repairs are being done in Potchefstroom while a Cuban detachment in Bloemfontein is looking at storage and preservation of vehicles. There is another team in Pretoria examining preservation procedures.

The Cubans were invited to South Africa on a year-long contract to both refurbish vehicles and assist the SANDF build capacity and train mechanics. “The SANDF has had numerous problems with our vehicles,” SANDF spokesman Siphiwe Dlamini said, adding that it has been trying to fix the vehicles through external service providers. “Our vehicles get fixed but two to three weeks down the line they are stuck on the road.”

“The Cubans are here to assist us fix the vehicles and create capacity within the defence force so we can do the fixing and maintenance repairs ourselves,” Dlamini told a media delegation in Potchefstroom on Friday. “Until we create capacity ourselves we will be forced to continue to rely on external service providers.”

The Cubans are not just refurbishing vehicles - they have five goals: to organise fleet management, organise technical support, deactivate old vehicles, preserve vehicles and perform maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) activities.

Brigadier General Elvis Mathaba, Director of Army Logistics, said that the Cubans in particular were invited to assist the SANDF for several reasons: they are cost effective; private industry is reluctant to pass on skills to the SANDF; Cuba helped South Africa during the Struggle years and still has good relations with South Africa; and Cuba has been able to keep its own military vehicles running in spite of half a century of sanctions.

Mathaba said the poor state of the SANDF’s vehicles was due to a lack of maintenance, repair and overhaul. A skills shortage has compounded the problem and this Cubans will help address this.

Poor vehicle serviceability has financially impacted on the SANDF as the United Nations does not reimburse the military for unserviceable vehicles used on international peacekeeping deployments. The SANDF has equipment deployed in Darfur and the Democratic Republic of Congo with UN missions there.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38380

No Cuban technicians will wear military camouflage like they do in Nigeria.

Some of the reason why SA should take drastic steps against mercenaries.


http://m.mg.co.za/article/2012-04-10-sa-refuses-to-indulge-uns-mercenary-probe/

ukemeramat:
its 350mm. bros i have shot that stuff, its so out dated. nigerian army has experience but they are terribly equipped. its only few who even use the AK74. the standard is AK47 wish is so outdated. chadians where able to gain grounds against boko haram in our territory because of their fire power. those guys use standardised AK74 with complete accessories. army spec ops still use that out dated AKM's and AK47's which is very very bad. I still give thumbs up to the NAF and NN anyday,they stand out. south african army dwarfs Nigerian army anyday.they have superior fire power. Boko Haram dont fight conventional warfare, the use anti-aircraft and anti-tant guns on human beings so you dont send your army after such fools with old rickety AKM's and AK47's... AK74 would have being far more preferable.!!

Wait did you say ak74 with complete accessories?
Oh God, why do I have to deal with fools like this

Msauza:
No Cuban technicians will wear military camouflage like they do in Nigeria.

you've got spaghetti in your skull not brains.. why would they wear camo when they're not in a war zone

iterator24:
you've got spaghetti in your skull not brains.. why would they wear camo when they're not in a war zone

The so called Nigerian technicians are wearing camp wherever they go.

rka1:
You know more than the CoAS abi?

The over 200 girls were kidnapped from their hostels at the Government Secondary School, Chibok, Borno State on April 14 2014.
Mr. Minimah also denied that Nigeria hired mercenaries to fight Boko Haram.
He said there are only military advisers and instructors meant to maintain the newly-acquired security equipment.
“Whenever you have new equipment, the equipment come with contract and the contract
include maintenance and the technicians that come with them are those that we hire,” he said.


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/178639-nigerian-military-found-no-sign-of-chibok-girls-in-recaptured-territories-army-chief.html
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Finally, the highest relevant authority has spoken, the Chief Of Army staff of Nigeria Lt. General Minimah says " No foreign mercenaries fighting war for Nigeria against Boko Haram".

END OF STORY.

CASE CLOSED FINALLY FOREVER.

Shame on you South Africans...we use your white-heads for mere casual labour jobs

.[/size]

Msauza:
No Cuban technicians will wear military camouflage like they do in Nigeria.

I am a PMC non-combatant and I wear military camouflage in high risk zone, but not standard army green camo, I wear grey shade uniform like some other PMCs do, and those PMC guys in Maiduguri were wearing light grey camo.

Don't brag about what is beyond your knowledge dude
.

rka1:
Looks like SA could have done with the mechanics contracted by Nigeria

Cuban technicians bringing SA Army trucks back to life

Written by Guy Martin, Monday, 16 March 2015


Cuban mechanics assisting SA Army mechanics.Almost a hundred Cuban technicians are working with the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) to maintain and preserve Army, Air Force and SA Military Health Service equipment, with the Cuban technicians already working on refurbishing 130 Army trucks.

Ninety-three Cuban technicians arrived in South Africa last month, including nine with the SA Army’s 102 Field Workshop in Potchefstroom. At the moment Samil trucks from Wallmansthal are being refurbished but other vehicles may be repaired at a later stage.

130 vehicles have been earmarked for refurbishment but the SANDF is looking at overhauling 250 trucks. Three vehicles have been completely refurbished so far with others in the works. The first vehicle, a Samil 20, had 250 hours of work done on it involving the engine, differentials, electrical system, pneumatic system, bodywork etc.

Technical maintenance repairs are being done in Potchefstroom while a Cuban detachment in Bloemfontein is looking at storage and preservation of vehicles. There is another team in Pretoria examining preservation procedures.

The Cubans were invited to South Africa on a year-long contract to both refurbish vehicles and assist the SANDF build capacity and train mechanics. “The SANDF has had numerous problems with our vehicles,” SANDF spokesman Siphiwe Dlamini said, adding that it has been trying to fix the vehicles through external service providers. “Our vehicles get fixed but two to three weeks down the line they are stuck on the road.”

“The Cubans are here to assist us fix the vehicles and create capacity within the defence force so we can do the fixing and maintenance repairs ourselves,” Dlamini told a media delegation in Potchefstroom on Friday. “Until we create capacity ourselves we will be forced to continue to rely on external service providers.”

The Cubans are not just refurbishing vehicles - they have five goals: to organise fleet management, organise technical support, deactivate old vehicles, preserve vehicles and perform maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) activities.

Brigadier General Elvis Mathaba, Director of Army Logistics, said that the Cubans in particular were invited to assist the SANDF for several reasons: they are cost effective; private industry is reluctant to pass on skills to the SANDF; Cuba helped South Africa during the Struggle years and still has good relations with South Africa; and Cuba has been able to keep its own military vehicles running in spite of half a century of sanctions.

Mathaba said the poor state of the SANDF’s vehicles was due to a lack of maintenance, repair and overhaul. A skills shortage has compounded the problem and this Cubans will help address this.

Poor vehicle serviceability has financially impacted on the SANDF as the United Nations does not reimburse the military for unserviceable vehicles used on international peacekeeping deployments. The SANDF has equipment deployed in Darfur and the Democratic Republic of Congo with UN missions there.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38380

Those Maiduguri REVA MRAP guys look very much like Cubans with that tan skin colour....tan skin colour like ma ex-gurl, she's mixed blood, sent her away cuz she can't even fry eggs in cooking oil...back 2 her mama....liability gurl frendz !
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Msauza:
The whole 50 000 Army personnel have fired R4 either in battle or in the battle school, the only battle school in Africa.

you re holding on to a fallacious claim. and i am personally surprised that you ve not edited your post yourself to correct your own mistake. What you call battle school could be the same thing another country chose to call a war college, war institute and so on. you don't just wake up and say South Africa has the only Battle school in Africa, doesn't it even sound ridiculous to you, knowing the fact that even small non state actors like militias e,g Boko Haram, Al shabab e.t.c all operate similar institutes

dieantwordRSA:
Nigerians
It looks like you should be my STUDENT IN POLITICS...One of your top dogs and former president agrees with me when I said that Nigeria was suppose to have talked with Boko Haram, by doing that they were going to weaken them and see who were the OVERHEADS (weaken them one by one).

Lastly the truth stands as I said that BOKO HARAM,ANSARU etc...is a result of socio economic challenges that people from central and northern face every day. REMEMBER MY MAPS FROM BBC ON POVERTY+MILITANCY=BOKO HARAM AND OTHER GROUPS..




Again, Obasanjo seeks dialogue with Boko Haram; says sect has legitimate grievances
March 17, 2015Ibanga Isine
Former President Olusegun Obasanjo
Former President Olusegun Obasanjo
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Boko Haram and Jonathan's ineffective State of Emergency, By Bamidele Ademola-OlatejuOctober 15, 2013

Jonathan responsible for escalation in Boko Haram insurgencyJanuary 19, 2015

Nigeria’s former President, Olusegun Obasanjo, has again advocated dialogue with the insurgent group, Boko Haram, saying the group has legitimate grievances despite its brutal five-year campaign that has killed more than 15,000 people, with hundreds of thousands displaced.

The former president said Nigeria should not rule out talking to the terrorist group which recently pledged allegiance to Islamic State (ISIS) – but he said that should only happen after a sustained military campaign.

Boko Haram’s run of violence against innocent people in schools, places of worship, markets and homes, only slowed relatively in the last few weeks in the face of increased military onslaught from Nigeria and neighbouring Chad, Niger and Cameroun.

The military has retaken 15 of 16 major towns seized by the group, the latest being Bama in Borno State, recaptured on Monday.

In response, Boko Haram has launched more suicide bomb attacks killing scores of civilians.

In an interview with the International Business Times in Dubai, Mr. Obasanjo advised that in dealing with the terror organization, the Nigerian government should not rule out dialogue if the group is willing to talk. He said that should happen only after sustained military operations against the militants.

Mr. Obasanjo, who spoke at the side-lines of the Global Education Forum conference, said with only 19 per cent of the population in Boko Haram’s stronghold of North-East Nigeria receiving education, [compared to 79 per cent in the South-West and 77 per cent in the South-East], there was no question that the area should feel marginalised.

“We don’t need anyone to tell us that that is a problem; a problem of disparity, a problem of marginalization, a problem because education is fundamental to your employability and to your living conditions. If you are not educated you are handicapped,” Mr. Obasanjo said.

Mr. Obasanjo again criticised President Goodluck Jonathan’s response to the group, saying the incumbent failed to act quick enough in taking the fight to Boko Haram.

That failure, he said, had given the group “false confidence” to spread to neighbouring Chad and Cameroon.

“The response of the government initially was definitely not enough. When Boko Haram started showing their fangs about four years ago, the reaction should have been firm and unmistakable. We have lost ground,” he said.

Mr. Obasanjo said as progress is made with the regional response from Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon and Niger, the Nigerian government should not rule out engaging with the militants.

“If Boko Haram is ready to talk, we should talk. But by the time they are ready to talk they will need to be pounded a little bit militarily: at that stage they will be ready to talk,” Mr. Obasanjo said.

Mr. Obasanjo has made similar calls in the past. In 2011, he made a unilateral attempt to open talks with leaders of the deadly sect.

The effort ended on a bloody note with the murder of Babakura Fugu, the man who received Mr. Obasanjo, and attempted to establish a link between insurgents and the former president.

Mr. Fugu, a brother-in-law of Mohammed Yusuf, Boko Haram’s founder, was shot to death shortly after Mr. Obasanjo left his home in Maiduguri, the Borno Stat capital, where he had flown to for a meeting.

The effort was not at the instance of the federal government, officials said at the time.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/178601-again-obasanjo-seeks-dialogue-with-boko-haram-says-sect-has-legitimate-grievances.html

do we also need a lecture from you on self service? dummy trying to talk smart.

overhypedsteve:
you re holding on to a fallacious claim. and i am personally surprised that you ve not edited your post yourself to correct your own mistake. What you call battle school could be the same thing another country chose to call a war college, war institute and so on. you don't just wake up and say South Africa has the only Battle school in Africa, doesn't it even sound ridiculous to you, knowing the fact that even small non state actors like militias e,g Boko Haram, Al shabab e.t.c all operate similar institutes

YOU ARE LOST!!!! WAR COLLEGE OR WAR UNIVERSITY OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT IS NOT ON THE SAME FOOTING WITH THE BATTLE SCHOOL. THE WORLD AT LARGE HAS ONLY TEN OF SUCH FACILITIES. THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE HAS ONLY TWO FOR WHICH SA IS THE LARGEST. I QUOTE:


The SA Army Combat Training Centre is unique
in the sense that it is one of [size=14]ten similar
institutions in the world[/size] that provide exclusive
and permanent facilities for landward warfare
training. [size=14]Only two of these institutions are
located in the Southern hemisphere, of which
the SA Army Combat Training Centre is the
largest, 158 000 hectares in total.[/size]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lohatla


http://www.actc.army.mil.za/

agaugust:
I am a PMC non-combatant and I wear military camouflage in high risk zone, but not standard army green camo, I wear grey shade uniform like some other PMCs do, and those PMC guys in Maiduguri were wearing light grey camo.

Don't brag about what is beyond your knowledge dude
.

There you go again with your antics of telling lies. Wearing camo will expose you as a mercenary or do you mean do you mean those camos that you can just buy from civilian clothing stores? ""

agaugust:
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[size=16pt]

Finally, the highest relevant authority has spoken, the Chief Of Army staff of Nigeria Lt. General Minimah says " No foreign mercenaries fighting war for Nigeria against Boko Haram".

END OF STORY.

CASE CLOSED FINALLY FOREVER.

Shame on you South Africans...we use your white-heads for mere casual labour jobs

.[/size]

The last person to listen to is MINIMAH, the greatest liar in the universe.

Msauza:
YOU ARE LOST!!!! WAR COLLEGE OR WAR UNIVERSITY OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT IS NOT ON THE SAME FOOTING WITH THE BATTLE SCHOOL. THE WORLD AT LARGE HAS ONLY TEN OF SUCH FACILITIES. THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE HAS ONLY TWO FOR WHICH SA IS THE LARGEST. I QUOTE:


The SA Army Combat Training Centre is unique
in the sense that it is one of [size=14]ten similar
institutions in the world[/size] that provide exclusive
and permanent facilities for landward warfare
training. [size=14]Only two of these institutions are
located in the Southern hemisphere, of which
the SA Army Combat Training Centre is the
largest, 158 000 hectares in total.[/size]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lohatlat

http://www.actc.army.mil.

ok so we only have 10 military institutions with the name battle school? hmm! thats cool, i like this game of big names.

agaugust:
Nope, OBJ-006 rifle came into service about year 2006 and that's what the average Nigerian soldier uses
.

And the gun the obj-006 is a copy of was designed in 1948

Msauza:
There you go again with your antics of telling lies. Wearing camo will expose you as a mercenary or do you mean do you mean those camos that you can just buy from civilian clothing stores? ""

Write whatever makes you sleep well at night, feel freeee !

agaugust:
Standard max range of OBJ006 rifle is classified so you DON'T know it
.

OBJ006 is a copy of an Ak47

Its max range is 350m

agaugust:
How many troops does SANDF have in Congo DRC, and how many are combatants among them, or your vehicle drivers, mechanics, cooks, nurses, and army female prostitutes also fight in battle firing rifles?

Out of the 80,000 soldiers in SANDF armed forces combined, less than 900 have fired R4 rifle in battle since the day they were born by their mothers.

You have an internet based virtual army called SANDF, bunch of rookies with ZERO war experience
.

Training > war experience

patches689:
Training > war experience

Henry120:
Insults , where did I insult you?

Didn't the Afrikanner government negotiate with terrorists?

Isn't your minister fat?

Didn't she describe the SANDF as lacking in skill, motivation and ethos?

Aren't there 1 in 5 South-Africans living with HIV?

Point out where I insulted you?

Freedom fighters are not terrorists

The weight of a person is irrelevant unless you are making insults

You have taken her quote out of context

Infection rate in the SANDF is below 20% (citations have been provided many times)

A lack of factual substance makes it insults. Act your age.

patches689:
And the gun the obj-006 is a copy of was designed in 1948

No standard army uses the 1950s AK-47 again, it's been improved with so many versions. China has it's own variant, Nigeria has OBJ-006.

Even SANDF R-4 is listed as an AK-47 variant, because that is what the mechanics are, forget about the paint job and stock etc that has nothing to do with rifle operations in combat.

There are so many AK-47 variants across the world each country having it's own mechanical improvements, you are half-illiterate :

Production outside of the Soviet Union/Russian Federation
Military variants only. Includes new designs substantially derived from the Kalashnikov.
=======================================================

(February 2013)
Country Variant(s)

Albania Automatiku Shqiptar model 56 (ASH-78 Tip-1) Albanian Automatic Assault Rifle Model 56 Type-1 [Made in Poliçan Arsenal] (Straight forward copy of Type 56, which in turn is a clone of the Soviet AKM rifle)
Automatiku Shqiptar Tipi 1982 (ASH-82) Albanian Automatic Assault Rifle Type 1982 [Made in Poliçan Arsenal] (Straight forward copy of AKMS)

Automatiku Shqiptar model 56 (ASH-78 Tip-2) Albanian Light Machine Gun [Made in Poliçan Arsenal] (Straight forward copy of RPK)

Automatiku Shqiptar model 56 (ASH-78 Tip-3) Albanian Automatic Hybrid Rifle Model 56 Type-3 [Made in Poliçan Arsenal] (Hybrid rifle for multi-purpose roles mainly Marksman rifle with secondary assault rifle and grenade launcher capability)

Other unknown variants.

Several other unnamed & unidentified versions of the AKMS have been produce mainly with short barrels similar to the Soviet AKS-74U mainly for special forces, Tank & Armoured crew also for Helicopter pilots and police.
There have also been modifications and fresh production of heavily modified ASh-82 (AKMS) with SOPMOD accessories, mainly for Albania's special forces RENEA & exports.

Armenia K-3 (bullpup, 5.45×39mm)
Azerbaijan Khazri (AK-74M)[77]
Bangladesh Chinese Type 56
Bulgaria AKK/AKKS (Type 3 AK-47/w. side-folding buttstock)
AKKMS (AKMS), AKKN-47 (fittings for NPSU night sights)

AK-47M1 (Type 3 with black polymer furniture)

AK-47MA1/AR-M1 (same as -M1, but in 5.56 mm NATO)

AKS-47M1 (AKMS in 5.56×45mm NATO)

AKS-47S (AK-47M1, short version, with East German folding stock, laser aiming device)

AKS-47UF (short version of -M1, Russian folding stock), AR-SF (same as −47UF, but 5.56 mm NATO)

AKS-93SM6 (similar to −47M1, cannot use grenade launcher)

RKKS (RPK), AKT-47 (.22 rimfire training rifle)

Cambodia Chinese Type 56, Soviet AK-47, and AKM
People's Republic of China Type 56
Colombia Galil ACE
Croatia APS-95
Cuba AKM[78]
East Germany[79] MPi-K/MPi-KS (AK-47/AKS)
MPi-KM (AKM; wooden and plastic stock), MPi-KMS-72 (side-folding stock), MPi-KMS-K (carbine)

MPi-AK-74N (AK-74), MPi-AKS-74N (side-folding stock), MPi-AKS-74NK (carbine)

KK-MPi Mod.69 (.22 LR select-fire trainer)

Egypt AK-47, Misr assault rifle (AKMS), Maadi ARM (AKM)
Ethiopia AK-47, AK-103 (manufactured locally at the State-run Gafat Armament Engineering Complex as the Et-97/1)[80]
Finland Rk 62, Valmet M76 (other names Rk 62 76, M62/76), Valmet M78 (light machine gun), Rk 95 Tp
Hungary[81] AK-55 (domestic manufacture of the 2nd Model AK-47)
AKM-63 (also known as AMD-63 in the US; modernized AK-55), AMD-65M (modernized AKM-63, shorter barrel and side-folding stock), AMP-69 (rifle grenade launcher)

AK-63F/D (other name AMM/AMMSz), AK-63MF (modernized)

NGM-81 (5.56×45mm NATO; fixed and under-folding stock)

India INSAS (fixed and side-folding stock), KALANTAK (carbine), INSAS light machine gun (fixed and side-folding stock), a local unlicensed version with carbon fibre furniture designated as AK-7 [82]
Trichy Assault Rifle 7.62 mm, manufactured by Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli of Ordnance Factories Board[83]

Iran KLS/KLF (AK-47/AKS), KLT (AKMS)
Iraq Tabuk Sniper Rifle, Tabuk Assault Rifle (with fixed or underfolding stock, outright clones of Yugoslavian M70 rifles series), Tabuk Short Assault Rifle (carbine)
Israel IMI Galil: AR (assault/battle rifle), ARM (assault rifle/light machine gun), SAR (carbine), MAR (compact carbine), Sniper (sniper rifle), SR-99 (sniper rifle)
Galil ACE

Italy Bernardelli VB-STD/VB-SR (Galil AR/SAR)[84]
Nigeria Produced by the Defence Industries Corporation of Nigeria as OBJ-006[85][86]
North Korea Type 58A/B (Type 3 AK-47/w. stamped steel folding stock), Type 68A/B (AKM/AKMS), Type 88 (AKS-74)[87][88]
Pakistan Reverse engineered by hand and machine in Pakistan's highland areas (see Khyber Pass Copy) near the border of Afghanistan; more recently the Pakistan Ordnance Factories started the manufacture of an AK-47/AKM clone called PK-10[89]
Poland[90] pmK (kbk AK) / pmKS (kbk AKS) (name has changed from pmK – "pistolet maszynowy Kałasznikowa", Kalashnikov SMG to the kbk AK – "karabinek AK", Kalashnikov Carbine in mid-1960s) (AK-47/AKS)
kbkg wz. 1960 (rifle grenade launcher), kbkg wz. 1960/72 (modernized)

kbk AKM / kbk AKMS (AKM/AKMS)

kbk wz. 1988 Tantal (5.45×39mm), skbk wz. 1989 Onyks (compact carbine)

kbs wz. 1996 Beryl (5.56×45mm), kbk wz. 1996 Mini-Beryl (compact carbine)

Romania PM md. 63/65 (AKM/AKMS), PM md. 80, PM md. 90, collectively exported under the umbrella name AIM or AIMS
PA md. 86 (AK-74), exported as the AIMS-74

PM md. 90 short barrel, PA md. 86 short barrel, exported as the AIMR

PSL (designated marksman rifle; other names PSL-54C, Romak III, FPK and SSG-97)

South Africa R4 assault rifle, Truvelo Raptor, Vektor CR-21 (bullpup)
Sudan MAZ[91] (based on the Type 56)
Ukraine Vepr (bullpup, 5.45×39mm), Malyuk (bullpup)[92]
United States Century Arms Model 39 (7.62x39mm), InterOrdnance AKM247, M214
Vietnam AKM-1 (AKM), TUL-1 (RPK), Galil Ace 31/32
Venezuela License granted, factory under construction[93]
Yugoslavia/Serbia M-64, M-70, M-72, M-76, M-77, M-80, M-82, M-85, M-90, M-91, M-92, M-99, M-21
Certainly more have been produced elsewhere; but the above list represents known producers and is limited to only military variants. An updated AK-47 design – the AK-103 – is still produced in Russia.
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patches689:
Training > war experience

Maxim of fools.

Citation needed
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rka1:
Looks like SA could have done with the mechanics contracted by Nigeria

Cuban technicians bringing SA Army trucks back to life

Written by Guy Martin, Monday, 16 March 2015


Cuban mechanics assisting SA Army mechanics.Almost a hundred Cuban technicians are working with the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) to maintain and preserve Army, Air Force and SA Military Health Service equipment, with the Cuban technicians already working on refurbishing 130 Army trucks.

Ninety-three Cuban technicians arrived in South Africa last month, including nine with the SA Army’s 102 Field Workshop in Potchefstroom. At the moment Samil trucks from Wallmansthal are being refurbished but other vehicles may be repaired at a later stage.

130 vehicles have been earmarked for refurbishment but the SANDF is looking at overhauling 250 trucks. Three vehicles have been completely refurbished so far with others in the works. The first vehicle, a Samil 20, had 250 hours of work done on it involving the engine, differentials, electrical system, pneumatic system, bodywork etc.

Technical maintenance repairs are being done in Potchefstroom while a Cuban detachment in Bloemfontein is looking at storage and preservation of vehicles. There is another team in Pretoria examining preservation procedures.

The Cubans were invited to South Africa on a year-long contract to both refurbish vehicles and assist the SANDF build capacity and train mechanics. “The SANDF has had numerous problems with our vehicles,” SANDF spokesman Siphiwe Dlamini said, adding that it has been trying to fix the vehicles through external service providers. “Our vehicles get fixed but two to three weeks down the line they are stuck on the road.”

“The Cubans are here to assist us fix the vehicles and create capacity within the defence force so we can do the fixing and maintenance repairs ourselves,” Dlamini told a media delegation in Potchefstroom on Friday. “Until we create capacity ourselves we will be forced to continue to rely on external service providers.”

The Cubans are not just refurbishing vehicles - they have five goals: to organise fleet management, organise technical support, deactivate old vehicles, preserve vehicles and perform maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) activities.

Brigadier General Elvis Mathaba, Director of Army Logistics, said that the Cubans in particular were invited to assist the SANDF for several reasons: they are cost effective; private industry is reluctant to pass on skills to the SANDF; Cuba helped South Africa during the Struggle years and still has good relations with South Africa; and Cuba has been able to keep its own military vehicles running in spite of half a century of sanctions.

Mathaba said the poor state of the SANDF’s vehicles was due to a lack of maintenance, repair and overhaul. A skills shortage has compounded the problem and this Cubans will help address this.

Poor vehicle serviceability has financially impacted on the SANDF as the United Nations does not reimburse the military for unserviceable vehicles used on international peacekeeping deployments. The SANDF has equipment deployed in Darfur and the Democratic Republic of Congo with UN missions there.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38380

No, its cheaper than relying on the private sector - it says so in the article

Read before you post

patches689:
No, its cheaper than relying on the private sector - it says so in the article
Read before you post

agaugust:
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Finally, the highest relevant authority has spoken, the Chief Of Army staff of Nigeria Lt. General Minimah says " No foreign mercenaries fighting war for Nigeria against Boko Haram".

END OF STORY.

CASE CLOSED FINALLY FOREVER.

Shame on you South Africans...we use your white-heads for mere casual labour jobs

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What is propaganda?

why is it in a generals best interests to say that his men have not failed?

Hmmm.... Foreign media confirm: mercenaries at play.

agaugust:
I am a PMC non-combatant and I wear military camouflage in high risk zone, but not standard army green camo, I wear grey shade uniform like some other PMCs do, and those PMC guys in Maiduguri were wearing light grey camo.

Don't brag about what is beyond your knowledge dude
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You arent a pmc auguguggg

Its really sad that you are pretending to be one