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Henry120:
List 10 currently operated by South-Africa?

Patchesagain:
So your argument is:

We cant afford it

Uhh... your two sat's cost £35 million

Our one cost £55 million.

Seems it is you who cannot afford it

Patchesagain:
Project took 7 years because the Kondor-E was in development - the Russians only put the first one into space in 2013

Resolution

Your 1 satelite is only capable of a resolution of 22m and the other is capable of a resolution of 2,5m in perfect conditions.

Ours is capable of 2m resolution regardless of conditions.

They are not capable of providing meaningfull military grade images.

Patchesagain:
Kondor-E technical specifications

https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/k/kondor-e

The capabilities of your satelite have been compared to ours - yours are significantly inferior

It is a military satelite. Observation is a synonym for spying you dofus.

Patchesagain:
Nigeria's 3rd satellite is a surveillance satellite controlled by NAF and NN, it is an advanced cloud penetrating radar satellite with day and night vision. It is a MILITARY GRADE SATELLITE used by Nigerian Navy to track fast moving pirate boats in deep ocean, it's radar is all weather and powerful enough to detect fast moving small objects that have small RCS. This new 2014 satellite has been posted here dozens of times repeatedly with sources.

You delusional ape, there is no such thing.

Msauza:
That is untrue. Rhinos were transfered to Botswana because there was some evidence that poaching was facilitated by people within. So, that was a tactical move to root out the moles out of their holes.


However, we are still saying SA does not need any military help from its neighbours to fight insurgency.

charlos14:
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So before all these "mercenaries" were the nigerian planes and helicopters flying themselves?[/size]

Henry120:
List 10 currently operated by South-Africa?

patches689:
I have allready compared the specs on this forum

Do you wish me to humiliate you again?

MikeCZAR:
List us 10 Modern weapons which are currently operated by Nigeria please.

MikeCZAR:
You can even list one?

agaugust:
You have no insurgency yet, wait till you get one. Your Rhino poaching solution is to run away to Botswana, that is how you will handle any threat like an insurgency, same thing in Bangui, run away from Seleka, always run like a springbok....South African military solution
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saengine:
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/kondor-e.html

RUSSIA ORBITS SOUTH AFRICA'S FIRST SPY SATELLITE Kondor-E


https://www.russianspaceweb.com/images/spacecraft/military/imint/kondor/mockup_1.jpg


Murky history of the Kondor-E project

On May 19, 2006, the South-African Ministry of Defense awarded a contract to the Russian company NPO Mashinostroenia (NPO Mash for short) for the development of a spy satellite with a synthetic aperture radar, capable of all-weather, day-and-night imaging of the Earth's surface. The spacecraft would be based on the company's Kondor (MKA DZZ) project first proposed in mid-1990s. In turn, Kondor derived from a Soviet-era Almaz radar-carrying space station. The Kondor development apparently received a code-name Project Flute within the South-African military and intelligence circles. In Russia, the same project was probably also referred to as 710KS. A price tag for the Kondor-E contract was cited at around $108 million.

The project Flute is believed to be a brainchild of the General "Mojo" Motau, who served as a head of Defense Intelligence at the time. The South-African intelligence planned to use the satellite for various surveillance goals, including battlefield reconnaissance. However, around 2007, the South-African government froze Project Flute after the nation's officials had realized that the full control over the satellite and its data would remain in Russian hands and South Africa would depend entirely on NPO Mash for the spacecraft operation. Such an arrangement would likely result in a significant delay of the access to imagery by military users in South Africa after the pictures had been snapped in orbit. In turn, it would dramatically reduce the value of Kondor's photos for the military, which needs up to a minute updates on the situation on the ground.

In response to the closure of the project, NPO Mashinostroenia threatened with a legal action, probably demanding a compensation for already incurred expenses. Moreover, the scandal around Kondor-E threatened to derail a planned launch of the South-African Sumbandila satellite on a Russian submarine-based missile. (The satellite was eventually launched by the Russian civilian space agency, Roskosmos). The situation also led to demands within the South African parliament to investigate the affair.


Ground control in South Africa?

Possibly, in order to address the problem, NPO Mash planned to build a ground station in South Africa, which would control and operate the satellite, industry sources said. Russia would also train personnel manning the facility. The South African center would have an automated data exchange system with a mission control operated by NPO Mash at its campus in Reutov, near Moscow. NPO Mash planned to subcontract the responsibility for setting up and supporting a secure network to Moscow-based company ZAO KB SvetComputers. The company's team was to be secretly dispatched for a month-long assignment in South Africa to deploy the system. A secure satellite channel, fiber-optic lines and radio communications would be used to transfer information between Kondor's mission controls in Russia and in South Africa. The new arrangement might have jump-started the troubled project, but it also likely further escalated its cost.

According to various reports, between 2006 and 2014, the South-African Defense Intelligence channeled from $109 to $259 million through a secret Special Defense Account dedicated to the "development of a strategic information collection capability." It is unclear whether this sum funded any other projects besides Flute.

The opposition members of the South-African parliament were still demanding the investigation of the Flute project as late as 2014, as Kondor-E was finally approaching the launch pad. However the South-African government was resisting the release of most details on Kondor-E, citing its highly classified nature and national security concerns. Still, Pretoria made available annual financial statements from the Special Defense Account from 2010 to 2014, showing following expenditures:


2014: Launch preparations

On October 15, a South-African delegation headed by the Minister of Science and Technology Naledi Pandor visited Roskosmos to discuss space cooperation between two countries. According to the Roskosmos' press-release, two sides "touched upon the issues of necessity for the development of a satellite network for remote-sensing of the Earth and problems of cadre for the development of space industry in Russia and in South Africa."

On October 22, 2014, during a meeting of a Portfolio Committee on Defense and Military Veterans, the South African Defense Secretary Sam Gulube confirmed that a military satellite was "on track" for launch, essentially revealing the South-African connection to the Kondor-E project.


Launch: 2014 Dec. 19

https://www.russianspaceweb.com/images/spacecraft/military/imint/kondor/kondor_e/launch_1.jpg

According to Roscosmos, the successful launch of Kondor-E took place on December 19, 2014, at 07:43 Moscow Time. The official press-release said that the satellite had a nominal separation from the booster stage of the launch vehicle and was transferred under a flight control of a customer. NORAD observations registered two objects associated with the launch:

Within hours after the liftoff, a source close to the project reported on the online forum of the Novosti Kosmonavtiki magazine that the satellite had established communications with ground control, downlinked telemetry and began opening its imaging radar antenna. In the meantime, ground observations of the satellite apparently detected some increase in its brightness, likely confirming the successful deployment of the radar antenna, In the second half of December, the satellite was undergoing in-orbit tests.

saengine:
Facts. As opposed to someone else's loud opinion. Leaked South African spy cables also show proof of Russian technicians working in South Africa....regarding ground control based in SA. Two completely separate sources, saying the same thing. As opposed to a mad man shouting here.

MikeCZAR:
Because bigger helicopters cost more to operate and aren't always gonna be available.

You can't use a medium utility helicopter to:

1. Train new helicopter crews.

2. Pick up one injured or KIA soldier.(In SAR, CSAR and casavac roles)

3. To conduct reconnaissance and battlefield surveillance.

4. Carry light cargo.

5. Small teams extraction and infiltration.

And more!

If you do with medium sized choopers, costs will be high and they'll not be available at all times.


They'll mission when it isn't necessary to deploy and they'll be a lot of these.

Besides less than 4 African countries have massive knowledge and experience in operating helos, most are still struggling with stuff like night and bad weather flying.

agaugust:
Financial Fraud ! ANC government over-inflated the cost of the South African satellite ! When whistle blowers called for investigation into the money, the ANC government said no, there cannot be any audit because it is a secret satellite for spying, that was how the spy satellite language came in, the Russians designed it as a mere surveillance satellite NOT spy.

So ANC avoided public investigation for fraud with the false claim of a secret spy satellite, BUT IS IT SECRET NOW? THE INFORMATION IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON SIPRI and even ordinary @Patches on nairaland is quoting the satelite's full capacity specifications, so where is the secret? The real secret is that the cost was inflated by South African politicians in a fraudulent deal, they purchased an ordinary survellance satellite at much over the normal price, swallowed the excess cash and said....hush hush....it is a secret !

The two Nigeria observation satellites cost £70 total price, the 3rd satellite is superior cloud penetrating and cost is NOT disclosed, it is more expensive and superior to our 1st and 2nd satellites and ours are top quality British satellites not monkey model Russian satellites like yours.

South Africa paid £ 55 million over-inflated price for a MONKEY MODEL RUSSIAN SATELLITE....fraud scandal news below....

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Scandal-looms-over-missing-spy-satellite-20140119





Took you 7 years because South Africa could not make full payment in time, and also delayed because Russia refused to give South Africa technical control over your own satellite , SA government stopped paying cash balance, Russia did not care about your nagging like a frustrated housewife, delay continued until your South African nation bowed to Putin's command, the Russians rule over you and your satellite forever.

Nigerian engineers built one of our satellites and we have 100% control over all our satellites.

Citation needed, where did you get specs and capabilities of Nigeria's 3 satellites ? The 3rd one is even most classified.




The specs and capabilities of your Kondor satellite are avilable on free public internet ! Wow ! Then it's not a secret spy satellite, all it's YANSH & SHIIT is already published for free public knowledge on internet !

Nigeria's satellite is military grade confirmed :


"The two satellites - the NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X - were launched on a Russian Dnepr rocket from Yasny, which is located in southern Russia. The space crafts were built at SSTL in Guildford, United Kingdom, but under the Nigerian National Space Research Development Agency (NASRDA). 26 Nigerian engineers worked at the SSTL, assembling NigeriaSat-X, which weighs around 100 kilograms (220 pounds). According to the government, the two satellites can be used for forestry, mapping, disaster monitoring, military applications and security , among other functions. "I congratulate our nation for this new chapter in our transformational efforts as we strive for self-reliance," President Goodluck Jonathan said. "Let me congratulate the resourceful Nigerians who made this history possible." According to Jonathan, NigeriaSat-X was designed and built by Nigerian engineers and scientists , while NigeriaSat-2 was built in collaboration with Surrey Satellite Technology Limited in Britain."


www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=2604:nigeria-launches-spy-satellites-into-orbit



It has been repeated on this forum more than 20 times since last year with sources....You CANNOT delete the proof, Nigeria has a radar cloud penetrating day/night all weather high image resolution military grade high power detection surveillance satellite that can detect a small boat on the big ocean.....

"The satellite platforms have made policing the Nigerian waters and some parts of the Gulf of Guinea (GoG) quite easier as ship movements are better monitored. NIMASA, with approval of relevant federal government agencies, established a fully digitalised Satellite Surveillance Centre (SSC) with sophisticated cloud penetrating radars.

NIMASA’s MoU with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force to enhance water patrol and aerial surveillance of Nigeria’s maritime domain has been very successful".


http://www.maritimesecurityafrica.com/Pages/Detail/16041

Meanwhile, y.our Kondor -E means E for Export, and export version different from the original top quality Russian Kondor, South Africa got what you have always talked about on this forum....

Russian made export versions of equipment for 3rd world countries, INFERIOR MONKEY MODELS.....it will give you low quality Baboon images and photographs, South Africa has been R.aped by Russia


TOP QUALITY IMAGE BY NIGERIAN MILITARY USE SATELLITE SHOWING AIRPORT, ALL AIRCRAFT CLEARLY VISIBLE


https://content.satimagingcorp.com/static/galleryimages/high-resolution-satellite-image-lagos-nigeria.jpg

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agaugust:
Russia built your satellite 100% . No single South African engineer was involved. Russia kept away all the technical secrets from your ugly faces.

Nigerian engineers built Nigeria's second satellite, we know all the technological secrets.

South Africa got export version which makes it an inferior MONKEY MODEL and just an ordinary surveillance satellite NOT a spy sat.

Many countries around the world have radar cloud penetrating satellites and they are not telling lies that it is a spy satellite.

SIPRI clearly lists those who got Spy satellites called Recce satellites....Morocco, Taiwan, Turkey etc.

According to SIPRI military experts, South Africa got an ordinary Surveillance satellite like other countries like Nigeria did before you, the only problem is that yours is an inferior MONKEY MODEL that produces BABOON IMAGES

Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 2014 to 2014 can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>.

Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 21 March 2015


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments

Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


France
R: Morocco 2 Helios-2 Recce satellite 2013 EUR500-585m deal; designation uncertain (reported as 'observation satellites'); delivery 2017-2018

Peru 1 Astrosat-300 Surveillance satellite 2014 PEN597 m ($203 m) deal (offsets incl technology transfers); delivery 2016

Taiwan (ROC) 1 ROCSAT-2 Recce satellite 1999 2005 1 $70 m deal;

UAE 2 Helios-2 Recce satellite (2013) EUR700 m deal; Pleiades version


Israel
R: Italy 1 Ofeq Recce satellite 2012 $182 m deal; OPTSAT-3000 version; delivery 2015

Italy
L: Turkey 1 Göktürk Recce satellite 2009 EUR250 m 'Reconnaissance Satellite System Project'; delivery 2015

Russia
R: South Africa 1 Kondor-E Surveillance satellite 2006 ZAR1.2 b 'Project Consolidated Flute' deal; delivery 2015

SOURCE : http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

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Surveillance NOT Spy satellite.... MONKEY MODEL inferior surveillance satellite for poor Soweto
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agaugust:
Financial Fraud ! ANC government over-inflated the cost of the South African satellite ! When whistle blowers called for investigation into the money, the ANC government said no, there cannot be any audit because it is a secret satellite for spying, that was how the spy satellite language came in, the Russians designed it as a mere surveillance satellite NOT spy.
So ANC avoided public investigation for fraud with the false claim of a secret spy satellite, BUT IS IT SECRET NOW? THE INFORMATION IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON SIPRI and even ordinary @Patches on nairaland is quoting the satelite's full capacity specifications, so where is the secret? The real secret is that the cost was inflated by South African politicians in a fraudulent deal, they purchased an ordinary survellance satellite at much over the normal price, swallowed the excess cash and said....hush hush....it is a secret !
The two Nigeria observation satellites cost £70 total price, the 3rd satellite is superior cloud penetrating and cost is NOT disclosed, it is more expensive and superior to our 1st and 2nd satellites and ours are top quality British satellites not monkey model Russian satellites like yours.
South Africa paid £ 55 million over-inflated price for a MONKEY MODEL RUSSIAN SATELLITE....fraud scandal news below....
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Scandal-looms-over-missing-spy-satellite-20140119
Took you 7 years because South Africa could not make full payment in time, and also delayed because Russia refused to give South Africa technical control over your own satellite , SA government stopped paying cash balance, Russia did not care about your nagging like a frustrated housewife, delay continued until your South African nation bowed to Putin's command, the Russians rule over you and your satellite forever.
Nigerian engineers built one of our satellites and we have 100% control over all our satellites.
Citation needed, where did you get specs and capabilities of Nigeria's 3 satellites ? The 3rd one is even most classified.
The specs and capabilities of your Kondor satellite are avilable on free public internet ! Wow ! Then it's not a secret spy satellite, all it's YANSH & SHIIT is already published for free public knowledge on internet !
Nigeria's satellite is military grade confirmed :
"The two satellites - the NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X - were launched on a Russian Dnepr rocket from Yasny, which is located in southern Russia. The space crafts were built at SSTL in Guildford, United Kingdom, but under the Nigerian National Space Research Development Agency (NASRDA). 26 Nigerian engineers worked at the SSTL, assembling NigeriaSat-X, which weighs around 100 kilograms (220 pounds). According to the government, the two satellites can be used for forestry, mapping, disaster monitoring, military applications and security , among other functions. "I congratulate our nation for this new chapter in our transformational efforts as we strive for self-reliance," President Goodluck Jonathan said. "Let me congratulate the resourceful Nigerians who made this history possible." According to Jonathan, NigeriaSat-X was designed and built by Nigerian engineers and scientists , while NigeriaSat-2 was built in collaboration with Surrey Satellite Technology Limited in Britain."
www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=2604:nigeria-launches-spy-satellites-into-orbit
It has been repeated on this forum more than 20 times since last year with sources....You CANNOT delete the proof, Nigeria has a radar cloud penetrating day/night all weather high image resolution military grade high power detection surveillance satellite that can detect a small boat on the big ocean.....
"The satellite platforms have made policing the Nigerian waters and some parts of the Gulf of Guinea (GoG) quite easier as ship movements are better monitored. NIMASA, with approval of relevant federal government agencies, established a fully digitalised Satellite Surveillance Centre (SSC) with sophisticated cloud penetrating radars.
NIMASA’s MoU with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force to enhance water patrol and aerial surveillance of Nigeria’s maritime domain has been very successful".
http://www.maritimesecurityafrica.com/Pages/Detail/16041
Meanwhile, y.our Kondor -E means E for Export, and export version different from the original top quality Russian Kondor, South Africa got what you have always talked about on this forum....
Russian made export versions of equipment for 3rd world countries, INFERIOR MONKEY MODELS.....it will give you low quality Baboon images and photographs, South Africa has been R.aped by Russia

TOP QUALITY IMAGE BY NIGERIAN MILITARY USE SATELLITE SHOWING AIRPORT, ALL AIRCRAFT CLEARLY VISIBLE
https://content.satimagingcorp.com/static/galleryimages/high-resolution-satellite-image-lagos-nigeria.jpg
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dacostaANG:
I wanna start of by comparing current Air power of Angola, South Africa, Nigeria.

First of all I would like to ask my brothers from Nigeria if there air force has the capability to take Angola on in a dogfight between SU-30K's vs F-7 currently in service of our respective nations.

dacostaANG:
I wanna start of by comparing current Air power of Angola, South Africa, Nigeria.

First of all I would like to ask my brothers from Nigeria if there air force has the capability to take Angola on in a dogfight between SU-30K's vs F-7 currently in service of our respective nations.

dacostaANG:
I wanna start of by comparing current Air power of Angola, South Africa, Nigeria.

First of all I would like to ask my brothers from Nigeria if there air force has the capability to take Angola on in a dogfight between SU-30K's vs F-7 currently in service of our respective nations.

jl115:
F-7 has absolutely 0% chance in a visual range dog fight, as for BVR i cant comment as im not sure which BVR missiles Angola poses.

dacostaANG:
We lack BVR capability.


I know a Russian system will be evaluated in the next 2 years including upgrades for canards on our SU-30's.

agaugust:
Financial Fraud ! ANC government over-inflated the cost of the South African satellite ! When whistle blowers called for investigation into the money, the ANC government said no, there cannot be any audit because it is a secret satellite for spying, that was how the spy satellite language came in, the Russians designed it as a mere surveillance satellite NOT spy.

So ANC avoided public investigation for fraud with the false claim of a secret spy satellite, BUT IS IT SECRET NOW? THE INFORMATION IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON SIPRI and even ordinary @Patches on nairaland is quoting the satelite's full capacity specifications, so where is the secret? The real secret is that the cost was inflated by South African politicians in a fraudulent deal, they purchased an ordinary survellance satellite at much over the normal price, swallowed the excess cash and said....hush hush....it is a secret !

The two Nigeria observation satellites cost £70 total price, the 3rd satellite is superior cloud penetrating and cost is NOT disclosed, it is more expensive and superior to our 1st and 2nd satellites and ours are top quality British satellites not monkey model Russian satellites like yours.

South Africa paid £ 55 million over-inflated price for a MONKEY MODEL RUSSIAN SATELLITE....fraud scandal news below....

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Scandal-looms-over-missing-spy-satellite-20140119





Took you 7 years because South Africa could not make full payment in time, and also delayed because Russia refused to give South Africa technical control over your own satellite , SA government stopped paying cash balance, Russia did not care about your nagging like a frustrated housewife, delay continued until your South African nation bowed to Putin's command, the Russians rule over you and your satellite forever.

Nigerian engineers built one of our satellites and we have 100% control over all our satellites.

Citation needed, where did you get specs and capabilities of Nigeria's 3 satellites ? The 3rd one is even most classified.




The specs and capabilities of your Kondor satellite are avilable on free public internet ! Wow ! Then it's not a secret spy satellite, all it's YANSH & SHIIT is already published for free public knowledge on internet !

Nigeria's satellite is military grade confirmed :


"The two satellites - the NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X - were launched on a Russian Dnepr rocket from Yasny, which is located in southern Russia. The space crafts were built at SSTL in Guildford, United Kingdom, but under the Nigerian National Space Research Development Agency (NASRDA). 26 Nigerian engineers worked at the SSTL, assembling NigeriaSat-X, which weighs around 100 kilograms (220 pounds). According to the government, the two satellites can be used for forestry, mapping, disaster monitoring, military applications and security , among other functions. "I congratulate our nation for this new chapter in our transformational efforts as we strive for self-reliance," President Goodluck Jonathan said. "Let me congratulate the resourceful Nigerians who made this history possible." According to Jonathan, NigeriaSat-X was designed and built by Nigerian engineers and scientists , while NigeriaSat-2 was built in collaboration with Surrey Satellite Technology Limited in Britain."


www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=2604:nigeria-launches-spy-satellites-into-orbit



It has been repeated on this forum more than 20 times since last year with sources....You CANNOT delete the proof, Nigeria has a radar cloud penetrating day/night all weather high image resolution military grade high power detection surveillance satellite that can detect a small boat on the big ocean.....

"The satellite platforms have made policing the Nigerian waters and some parts of the Gulf of Guinea (GoG) quite easier as ship movements are better monitored. NIMASA, with approval of relevant federal government agencies, established a fully digitalised Satellite Surveillance Centre (SSC) with sophisticated cloud penetrating radars.

NIMASA’s MoU with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force to enhance water patrol and aerial surveillance of Nigeria’s maritime domain has been very successful".


http://www.maritimesecurityafrica.com/Pages/Detail/16041

Meanwhile, y.our Kondor -E means E for Export, and export version different from the original top quality Russian Kondor, South Africa got what you have always talked about on this forum....

Russian made export versions of equipment for 3rd world countries, INFERIOR MONKEY MODELS.....it will give you low quality Baboon images and photographs, South Africa has been R.aped by Russia


TOP QUALITY IMAGE BY NIGERIAN MILITARY USE SATELLITE SHOWING AIRPORT, ALL AIRCRAFT CLEARLY VISIBLE


https://content.satimagingcorp.com/static/galleryimages/high-resolution-satellite-image-lagos-nigeria.jpg

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DieVluit:
Chad at it again...

Troops from Niger and Chad discovered a mass grave with more than 90 decomposed bodies near a northern Nigerian town recently retaken from the Islamic militant group Boko Haram, security sources from both countries said Friday.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/20/africa/nigeria-mass-grave/

agaugust:
Chad's 5% effort. Anyway, Boko Haram hit Gamborou this week while the incompetent Chadian army move elsewhere to hunt for new glory, after the town was said to be 'totally liberated.'

So what is the benefit of Chad's effort? Now we see how 2,500 troops cannot do more than 5% of the war effort, when they move away leaving no garrison behind to protect, Nigerian army liberated and held control of 40 towns, Chad cannot liberate and keep control of 3 towns, now we know who is fighting 90 % of this war !

Boko Haram returns Chadian army of 2,500 troops were dribbled around like Ronaldo

http://news.yahoo.com/boko-haram-attacks-nigeria-town-gamboru-kills-11-165025844.html

Your mercenary story of old men has been demolished so you now return to Chad. Desperado ! LOL
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mzilakazi:
Bwahahaha… what a desperate remarks!!

Chief we don't need your half baked education to convince us about the only most advanced spy satellite in Africa that SA acquired from RUSSIA. Your comments are mostly based from an illusional DA's so called shadow minister of defence who is not even allowed to sit on any defence meetings with generals.


SA kondor E has SAR capability, so what else would you argue for?

South Africa has a mere basic monkey model ordinary surveillance satellite

agaugust:
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According to SIPRI military experts, South Africa got an ordinary Surveillance satellite like other countries like Nigeria did before you, the only problem is that yours is an inferior MONKEY MODEL that produces BABOON IMAGES tongue tongue

Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 2014 to 2014 can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>.

Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 21 March 2015


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments

Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


France
R: Morocco 2 Helios-2 Recce satellite 2013 EUR500-585m deal; designation uncertain (reported as 'observation satellites'); delivery 2017-2018

Peru 1 Astrosat-300 Surveillance satellite 2014 PEN597 m ($203 m) deal (offsets incl technology transfers); delivery 2016

Taiwan (ROC) 1 ROCSAT-2 Recce satellite 1999 2005 1 $70 m deal;

UAE 2 Helios-2 Recce satellite (2013) EUR700 m deal; Pleiades version


Israel
R: Italy 1 Ofeq Recce satellite 2012 $182 m deal; OPTSAT-3000 version; delivery 2015

Italy
L: Turkey 1 Göktürk Recce satellite 2009 EUR250 m 'Reconnaissance Satellite System Project'; delivery 2015

Russia
R: South Africa 1 Kondor-E Surveillance satellite 2006 ZAR1.2 b 'Project Consolidated Flute' deal; delivery 2015

SOURCE : http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

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Surveillance NOT Spy satellite.... MONKEY MODEL inferior surveillance satellite for poor Soweto

DieVluit:
One question -

WHY DID YOU POST AN AMERICAN SATELLITE IMAGE AND CLAIM IT WAS NIGERIAN?

You are desperate, seeing as you do not have h:

1. high-resolution images to display.; or

2. Specs to discuss.

DieVluit:
Look what has happened -

Chad has saved you guys in Gamboru. But Nigeria failed to keep the town secure after Chad had liberated it.

So, Chad has had to come back...

Shame on you!!!

Chad Recapture Nigerian Town Seized By Boko Haram
Manuel Ndimele, 2 hours ago

READ MORE: http://www.naij.com/405983-chad-recapture-nigerian-town-seized-by-boko-haram.html

agaugust:
The above is an intelligent question !
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dacostaANG:
I wanna start of by comparing current Air power of Angola, South Africa, Nigeria.

First of all I would like to ask my brothers from Nigeria if there air force has the capability to take Angola on in a dogfight between SU-30K's vs F-7 currently in service of our respective nations.

agaugust:
Same story I posted and same facts.

Ganboru is a border town close to Cameroon, in military warfare there is what we call AOR....Area Of Responsibility, Nigerian army HQ has told Chad to stay only at border towns on a few locations and block cross border Boko Haram escapees. Gamboru has been given to Chad as AOR, Nigeria does NOT need to deploy troops there when Chad is mandated to hold that border town as MJNTF rules require. Chad left it's AOR.....foolish army of rag tag rebels with no helmet, clothed in caravan traders headgear !
ONLY A FOOLISH ARMY LIBERATES A TOWN AND LEAVES WITHOUT MAINTAINING A GARRISON FORCE LEFT BEHIND TO HOLD THE TOWN.....battlefield rules of invasion number I
Those Chadian troops are rag tag rebels who did not attend military academy, so they lost what they got initially. Why did they go back after realizing their mistake? They did so to avoid embarrassment because the world will say Chad won a town in February and lost the same town to Boko Haram in March
That proves to you that Chad will do 5 % and nothing more, with 2,500 troops and ZERO air force, you can NEVER win a war on a land mass the size of Scotland with that tiny rag tag army.
Nigeria army liberated 40 towns, show me one that Boko Haram has dared to go back and attack after Nigeria beat them blue black, show me one !
Chadian army is a fluke, a flash in the pan.....all na wash
Nigerian army wins 40 towns and places garrison to hold all 40 towns.....masters of military strategy ! Israel is saluting us !
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