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Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by Nobody: 2:23pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
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Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by anonimi: 2:26pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
[quote author=EUROBOMBER post=32483775][/quote] Someone who reasons well does not strike off other people's comments except he is a patient of yaba left! Is that your case EuroBomber 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by Nobody: 2:30pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
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Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by Nobody: 2:31pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
MzJackBaueress:you talk for yourself not all of us buddy.. make use of i not we 2 Likes |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by farem: 3:47pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
[color=#770077][/color] Change2015: As many who ventured to join the trained were cursed and dis-owned. Thank God Gburugburu is no longer alive, he would have been disowned if he joined train with Ngige et al. You only need to be under a curse or blessing in Igboland for one reason: oppose or support 'Azikwe'. (FFK/Fayose and Okoroacha/Ngige on my mind)!APGA (APUGA) is just in mouth. afterall the gburugburu himself (someone big and qualified to rule Nigeria) was betrayed in far less significant political position 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by sheymoni(m): 4:10pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
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Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by pazienza(m): 4:22pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
EUROBOMBER: We know what happened in 2011, Yoruba votes were divided between. Ribadu and Buhari who both presented Yoruba VPs, the rest, Tinubu sold to GEJ, it was strategic from Tinubu. History shows that Yorubas always voted for a Yoruba candidate, OBJ was a worst president than GEJ, but in 2003, Yorubas chose him over Buhari who is now presented as a messiah by them. The question is, was Buhari not a Messiah in 2003. Nothing is wrong with voting for one's ethnic group member, infact, that's what I am trying to promote amongst Ndiigbo, but every thing is wrong with trying to package tribal politics as performance based politics, it's an insult to our intelligence. Power is not given, you work for it. It is very naive of you to believe that Buhari is going to hand over to Okorocha solely on a sense of justice. If you don't know it, know it now, the Yorubas have their eyes on the presidential slot come 2023, APC owes them, and will bend to their whim and caprice, they control the APC apparatus, Okorocha will be dumped and compensated, they couldn't give him the VP, they are certainly not going to give him the presidency, they already have the reason/ excuse they will sell to naive ones like you figured, Tinubu have it all figured. We simply cannot be part of APC, we will play into their hands by doing that, we need a better plan to counter their 2023 plan, we must not be part of APC. Rochas have to be voted out, if eventually they give him the ticket come 2023, which I know is impossible, then good for us, if they don't, we negotiate with the North in PDP for VP slot and scuttle Yoruba plans in APC. That's the right way to go. We have been with the central government for a long time, we need a change. 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by tuniski: 6:56am On Apr 09, 2015 |
Change2015:stop referring to me as Ibo, I am a full blooded yoruba! Rochas is just wasting his time even VP he won't smell! APC don't give a damn. Next SW wiith a northern VP then Northerner with southerner VP. Then do the maths. Only PDP comes with the antidote in 2019 with a Ribadu to challenge buhari a SE VP is visible! 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by tuniski: 7:00am On Apr 09, 2015 |
handie:I am yoruba stop referring me as Igbo. Anyway, the SW/north next and then north/south candidacy only PDP will come with the antidote. Can't wait for the clash of ribadu V Buhari in 2019. God spare us all! |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by idu1(m): 7:15am On Apr 09, 2015 |
Selfish folks.... We will not give u anything. Okorocha, amaechi ngige ll be duly compensated. U think politics is all about selling motor spared parts and hating.... |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by owobokiri(m): 7:51am On Apr 09, 2015 |
It used to be that the ever republican igbos were way tooooooo devided, spoke through many leaders and were grossly incapable of sustaining any alliance with their collective loyalty like, you know nah- the yorubas. Now the new charge is that they are too united for their own good and are political un-sophisticated(that word again) like? you must know nah- the wise ones from the west! It is crazy. This is the first time the SE is finding herself in the opposition under a democratic setting, . You want me to emulate Tinubu by balkanising the igbo votes amongst 3 political parties? Tinubu didn't do that. He is fighting tooth and nail to get rid of Fayose. Ondo people forced Mimiko on him. What am I saying? There is nothing politically naive in voting for a RULING party led by an EASTERN minority whose chances of winning was as bright as that of his challenger. A ruling party surrounded as it were with all the terroristic trappings associated with Nigerias incumbent executives. To say that the east was/is politically naive for towing this line is simply lame. That said, one is more interested on the way forward. . What is there for the igbo in particular and the former eastern Nigeria in general. Note that I am not talking of igbo presidency, Ogoni or ijaw presidencies yet. No, I am talking about these groups geo political interests irrespective of the ethnicity, religion or political persuasion of the man in power. These without questions are legitimate democratic demands expected in any sane democracy. Democracy is not your best platform to play your tribal zero sum game. . We are aggregating interests,ain't we? I have enumerated some deeds done by Jonathan in the east and mentioned what he planned to do in the future. Where are buharis plans for the east? Is it possible to still locate an empty space to situate legitmate eastern interests in this noisy madness termed buharism? Or did one Okorocha and his liutnants sacrifice the collective interests on the alter of personal ambitions? 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by owobokiri(m): 8:33am On Apr 09, 2015 |
idu1: What is the rapacious gloating all about? You lot can be wickedly funny sometimes. The fulani is not even abusing anybody, yet he is the one who won the presidency. . ,but one has to contend with some noisy neighbours desperate to rub whatever in. . . At the risk of throwing courtsey to the wind, let me once again remind you that the vee pee position has been aptly described as nothing but a "spare tire"! Essentially his importance depends largely on the mood of the man in charge. He might end up just taking care of the presidents briefcase. But I don't think you willever get the stunning implications of what I just wrote. Obviously, you are happier with what you have deprived others to the extent you don't care anymore about what you will get. And that is very telling. Back to the topic. . . 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by Change2015(m): 2:11pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
pazienza: You are simply wrong. Most sensible Nigerians accept that a President will not be succeeded by someone from his own region, however well qualified he or she may be. And that rotation is generally agreed to be North and South. If you check your history you will see that Abiola won the vote in the north, and defeated Tofa even in his home state of Kano. After Buhari the president will come from the south, unless (and I dont see any realistic chance) there is an irresistible Ndigbo candidate. I am not sure that person is Rochas. The prejudice you are accusing others of, actually lies within you. The yoruba voting population is larger than that of Ndigbo but the Nigerian constitution is so arranged to make alliances a necessity. The North also gave obasanjo majority votes against all opposition. #change #GMB #APC #Ambode-LagosGov #oneNigeria |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by Change2015(m): 2:14pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
tuniski: Exactly where are you referred to as igbo? #change #GMB #APC #Ambode-LagosGov #oneNigeria |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by pazienza(m): 4:40pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Change2015: The SW in the presence of SS/SE are but minorities in Nigerian current political atmosphere. The Yorubas had never had more population than Ndiigbo not even in colonial Nigeria.Ndigbo have always had more population than the Yorubas. The Igbo population is spread all over Nigeria, while the Yorubas population are found mainly in SW, with little or no spread all over the country. Abiola was a different era. And by the way, see what happened to him. The political climate of that era, is quite different from that of current era, lots of things have changed, for example, the emergence of the SS as a political block to reckon with. In Obasanjo case, our democracy was only young, he had no Northern challenger in 1999, and in 2003, Buhari had no SE/SS support. He never stood a chance. In 2023, APC will not produce a southern presidential candidate( that is only what you lots use to deceive the naive ones), they will produce a SW presidential candidate, who will be roundly humiliated by a Northern candidate backed by the SE/SS, if the SS/SE gets their acts together. The North will become eternal president of Nigeria, everything being equal. Btw, the phrase "sensible Nigerian" doesn't exist, there is nothing sensible about Nigeria or Nigerians, average Nigerians naturally vote based on ethnic/regional and Religious considerations. And that makes elections in Nigeria, quite predictable. 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by Change2015(m): 1:16am On Apr 10, 2015 |
pazienza: Lol. Nigerian elections are so predictable that the pdp is still reeling in shock? Abiola was not a different era. The people and structure that created his victory still exist and are still very much involved in politics. The chairman of APC is a former NADECO official, as is Tinubu, and dozens of others who opposed the military then. Your do not have any argument to support your different era theory. Even the pdp under Obasanjo rotated the presidency to the North, and now that Jonathan has had a go, their next candidate will most likely be from the North. The APC has produced a northern president and when he is done the position will be rotated south. There are many sound and sensible Nigerians about who understand this rotation is essential until we get rid of the ethnic suspicion and prejudice that exists in far too many Nigerians. Look at even our major unions and professional associations, the same principle can be observed, with the wazobia mix in the top positions. Whatever the source of your prejudices, you have to tackle yourself and not project them on others. You need data to justify your population claim. As far as INEC is concerned, and the population commission, the voting strength (re pvc registration) and numbers in the East are lower than in the West. #change #GMB #APC #Ambode-LagosGov #oneNigeria |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by bakila: 3:10am On Apr 10, 2015 |
pazienza:Can you remember a certain Chuba Okadigbo? When upto today Ameachi Ngige and Okorocha are considered traitors for being in APC? Power is transient, stay in the opposition and do the Tinubu. First convince your people on the need to lead Nigerians then try in Four years time. From the way you guys behave on Nairaland am sure other Nigerians will not go along with you guys. |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by pazienza(m): 7:28am On Apr 10, 2015 |
bakila: Exactly! Buhari wasn't a messiah to the SW when he had Okadigbo/ Ogbonnaya onu as VP. He became an instant messiah to Yorubas, the moment he made a Yoruba man a VP. Thanks for buttressing my point about the Yorubas tribal politics, packaged as performance based one to deceive the gullible. 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by Nobody: 7:32am On Apr 10, 2015 |
pazienza: Why was he not a messiah when he chose Tunde Bakare a Yoruba son? |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by pazienza(m): 7:49am On Apr 10, 2015 |
EUROBOMBER: If you don't know, know it now, Buhari popularity in Yoruba land started growing when he made Bakare his VP, there were shouts of BB! by Many Yoruba posters on this forum! But because of the fact that as then, AC still had their own Northern candidate in Ribadu with a Yoruba VP too, the Yorubas were torn between AC and Buhari, which probably enabled Tinubu to easily negotiate the remaining votes for GEJ without out cry from his people. Fast forward to 2015, Buhari is now part of the AC, it unified the Yoruba supporters( AC supporters and those that supported Buhari/ Bakare ticket), and saw his popularity in the region reach the critical threshold, that it became impossible for anyone else to win elections there. 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by bakila: 8:53am On Apr 10, 2015 |
pazienza:My point is that IGBO people did not vote him when he ran with Okadigbo. That was when Igbo people where having a very rough time with the PDP. |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by pazienza(m): 9:22am On Apr 10, 2015 |
bakila: My point is that Ndiigbo don't play tribal politics enough, like the Yorubas, who play tribal politics packaged as performance based politics to deceive the gullible. My point is that it's high time we( Ndiigbo) starts playing tribal politics and totally rejecting APC and all it stands for, is a good way to start! 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by Nobody: 9:48am On Apr 10, 2015 |
As an igbo that voted apc, I feel kinda weird when folks insinuate that no igbo person voted apc. Some igbos even voted apc in the east and I feel they also matter. The way people are going bout this sha!! |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by owobokiri(m): 10:11am On Apr 10, 2015 |
icebeatz: This is a new one. I have read every word posted here, I am not aware of any poster insunuating that no easterner voted APC. The question here is how relevant such votes will be in serving the igbo interest. You don't vote for the sake of voting, you vote to make things happen. I can understand those who voted Buhari because they believe he will fight corruption better. Their choice. But in the general eastern interest, vis a vis the promises made to other regions, will buhari take care of the east better than Jonathan? |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by Nobody: 10:43am On Apr 10, 2015 |
owobokiri:Did jonathan take care of the east We made only one request and that is the 2nd niger bridge. Where is the bridge Please dont tell me its under construction cos its been under construction for the past 6 years..... 1 Like |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by owobokiri(m): 11:17am On Apr 10, 2015 |
icebeatz: Kindly read my initial post on this thread. I took time to explain some benefits of Jonathans presidency and the promises of his second term. |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by bakila: 8:46pm On Apr 10, 2015 |
K pazienza:Na you sabi, you will wallow in your wait for success. We are waiting for how you guys will re-enter the mainstream. |
Re: Questions For Okorocha, Ngige, Õnù As Buhari Visits The East by owobokiri(m): 7:54pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
Is it time to start stoning this three?? 1 Like |
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