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cococandy:
Of course parts of the bible is sexist and parts of it encourage violence.
Parts of it encourage inhuman treatment to others because they don't believe in the God of the Israelites
But is that christ's teaching?
No.

Any Christian who thinks the whole bible is a guide for a true Christian life will do things that can't let him/her sleep at night.

True

The problem is that people pick and choose what part of the bible to follow and what part not to follow.

TV01:
When the talk here is now of charging people who don't give their children a positive portrayal of homosexuality . That actually implies children taken into care, and then possibly fostered out to...yeah, think about that.

No to homosexuality, no to same sex marriage, no to same sex adoption. No and thrice no.


TV

You are very right evils should be confronted head on. Such as hate. I see a lot of it reading you.

And shockers, children taken into care by loving people, who happen to love them, each other, and the world, who, shock, are of the same genders! What an atrocious society to be in. Let's rather have children murdered randomly on the streets because their alcoholic daddy got tired of beating them and their mommy, that sick bitch didn't love his slaps and couldn't feed them any longer with the miserable naira he brought home from hustling.

#ForGloriousNigeria! #marchesOff

Shollypopzz:
Logic??!! Logic??!!! You call that logic?? I say someone is insane, you are talking about logic

LoL, the guy is reaching. Soon, feminism will be the reason for hurricane, HIV, cancer, flood and accidents.

I should have put the 'logic' in quote. My bad.

You haven't read somewhere on this forum that feminism is the reason why more men are now attracted to other men, black guys die for light skinned ladies and every other thing that is wrong with the world?

Anything for guys to get out of taking responsibility for leading the world astray since the centuries where they have had upper hand in leadership in the society.

pickabeau1:
A True Feminist will not recognize male headship in her marriage - that is if she even bothers to marry at all

Who are you to define what a real or a fake feminist is? Is this the new thing?? Who died and made y'all Judge Judy for feminism??

The point of feminism is to give women the ability to make their own choices. A feminist does not stop being a feminist if she chooses that her husband be her head/head her home. As long as it was a choice she made........

BTW, a lot of other feminists might see her as lukewarm, but her feminist card is not revoked.

babygirlfl:
I am very open to learning more from you on this issue.

Will be willing to be of help.

Can open a thread and mention me

This thread is too rowdy

bukatyne:
@babygirlfl,

The Bible is not sexist. It took me years to get to This point too.

I could cope more with sexist men than a sexist God. I mean the men met it (can't fault them), But the person that actually put me There and then claims to love me?

Tuah!

Read and studied and put everything in context.

P.S.: I do not use KJV though. I use NLT.

And that's a problem bukatyne. If you want to find the truth you have to be open minded. You can't seek truth with a biased mind.

That's a problem with most religious folks. They're too stuck in their religious way to ask questions. And even when they ask questions, they're scared of a "wrong" answer.

You have to break shït down to build. You have to break your biased foundation (with Christianity) to truly learn.

You can't wrap your mind around God being sexist so even if you're presented with the truth, you'll find ways to make it false. Coz your scared your whole belief system (everything you know about God) could be a lie.


I didn't mean to get all preachy. it had to be said.

That's why it's hard for me to learn on here. Most people, including me, have a biased view ( a preconceived notion) before even starting a debate.

Shollypopzz:
Who are you to define what a real or a fake feminist is? Is this the new thing?? Who died and made y'all Judge Judy for feminism??

The point of feminism is to give women the ability to make their own choices. A feminist does not stop being a feminist if she chooses that her husband be her head/head her home. As long as it was a choice she made........

BTW, a lot of other feminists might see her as lukewarm, but her feminist card is not revoked.

Haha

All this aggro of yours adds no value to the discourse
Make your point logically


So to you accepting a man as her head in marriage is a choice the woman makes and she can revoke it as she wills?

So its a dynamic and situational headship?

What will I not hear on NL?

BABE3:
And that's a problem bukatyne. If you want to find the truth you have to be open minded. You can't seek truth with a biased mind.

That's a problem with most religious folks. They're too stuck in their religious way to ask questions. And even when they ask questions, they're scared of a "wrong" answer.

You have to break shït down to build. You have to break your biased foundation (with Christianity) to truly learn.

You can't wrap your mind around God being sexist so even if you're presented with the truth, you'll find ways to make it false. Coz your scared your whole belief system (everything you know about God) could be a lie.


I didn't mean to get all preachy. it had to be said.

Succinct

Shollypopzz:
Logic??!! Logic??!!! You call that logic?? I say someone is insane, you are talking about logic

LoL, the guy is reaching. Soon, feminism will be the reason for hurricane, HIV, cancer, flood and accidents.

well feminism has been known to cause hurricane, not literally though, "family hurricane", "abortion hurricane" and other hurricanes too numerous to mention...
feminism has also contributed to the spread of HIV, yall support faggotry which is the origin of HIV, at least the origin of HIV can be traced from there and backwards...
feminism also causes skin cancer, women have become more individualistic because of feminism, you have told women they can do whatever they please with their body, consequently,they have resorted to using assorted varieties of skin bleaching creams.... bleaching creams cause skin cancer
a number of accidents have occurred because of feminism, men have committed suicide and murder because of their feminist wives, children have been neglected, even mother in laws are not safe.... some have received variable degrees of injuries, black eyes, fractures etc

feminism is an evil that must be eliminated from our societies, if left unattended, it could bring the world to ruins, or worse, to an end.....

babygirlfl:
True

The problem is that people pick and choose what part of the bible to follow and what part not to follow.

For me I don't think that's a problem really.
If I didn't pick what part of the bible to follow, I would be enemies with my non Christian neighbor because some part of the Old Testament prescribes killing them, looting their towns and raping their women for insulting the most high God.
That is why for me as Christian, my guide is the word out of Jesus' mouth himself.
I can't be naive or pretentious enough to say that I believe the humanness of other authors of the bible couldn't have gotten in the way of their message.

So how many Christians would really do what the bible says word for word?
I wouldn't want to be near such a person.

Because while Christ's message of love is eternal and can never be outdated no matter the setting in which we find ourselves(since very human being responds to love in a positive way)
The prevailing culture and practices at the time which undeniably colored the POVs of some of the writers have no place in the world of today.

Anyone who thinks I'm not a true Christian for saying this can go to his non-Christian neighbor's house and kill him for not being a follower or deny such a person job opportunity because the bible says we should not associate with non-christains.
Or Kill a self-confessed witch because the bible says we should not suffer a witch to live.

Then he or she can come back on NL and tell us how Christianly it felt to follow such biblical teaching verbatim.
A true follower of Christ will NEVER do word for word all that the bible teaches.

Needless to say Christ is not the author of the bible.

BABE3:
So his headship continues after he's found the wife. Ok
IN the family/marriage, he is the head, according to you. Ok.

Why is he still the head after he's found his wife? What's wrong with two heads or the wife being the head?

Coz I'm sure a lot of thoughts must have gone into the decision making of giving the man the head role. Why was he the best choice ?

No one has been able to give me a clear answer. I asked stillfire she ran away. Maybe vickybee can help answer.

What do you define by headship?

Let's start from thete

cococandy:
For me I don't think that's a problem really.
If I didn't pick what part of the bible to follow, I would be enemies with my non Christian neighbor because some part of the Old Testament prescribes killing them, looting their towns and raping their women for insulting the most high God.
That is why for me as Christian, my guide is the word out of Jesus' mouth himself.
I can't be naive or pretentious enough to say that I believe the humanness of other authors of the bible couldn't have gotten in the way of their message.

So how many Christians would really do what the bible says word for word?
I wouldn't want to be near such a person.

Because while Christ's message of love is eternal and can never be outdated no matter the setting in which we find ourselves(since very human being responds to love in a positive way)
The prevailing culture and practices at the time which undeniably colored the POVs of some of the writers have no place in the world of today.

Anyone who thinks I'm not a true Christian for saying this can go to his non-Christian neighbor's house and kill him for not being a follower or deny such a person job opportunity because the bible says we should not associate with non-christains.
Or Kill a self-confessed witch because the bible says we should not suffer a witch to live.

Then he or she can come back on NL and tell us how Christianly it felt to follow such biblical teaching verbatim.
A true follower of Christ will NEVER do word for word all that the bible teaches.

Needless to say Christ is not the author of the bible.

So who is the author of the bible?

Casting aspersions on the authority of the Bible now....

pickabeau1:
Haha
All this aggro of yours adds no value to the discourse
Make your point logically
So to you accepting a man as her head in marriage is a choice the woman makes and she can revoke it as she wills?
So its a dynamic and situational headship?
What will I not hear on NL?

What discourse?? Was I having a discussion with you? Is there only one argument going on in this thread?? What "aggro"?? Are you deflecting??

I funny it funny when an illogical person tell me to be logical. The irony of it all

"So to you accepting a man as her head in marriage is a choice the woman makes and she can revoke it as she wills?"

Isn't it funny that the person that knows nothing about feminism is the one telling others who is a real and a fake feminist??
Yes, she has to make that choice. The choice will not be made for her because of her gender, it is hers to make.

"What exactly is situational"??

It is an individual headship!

BABE3:
And that's a problem bukatyne. If you want to find the truth you have to be open minded. You can't seek truth with a biased mind.

That's a problem with most religious folks. They're too stuck in their religious way to ask questions. And even when they ask questions, they're scared of a "wrong" answer.

You have to break shït down to build. You have to break your biased foundation (with Christianity) to truly learn.

You can't wrap your mind around God being sexist so even if you're presented with the truth, you'll find ways to make it false. Coz your scared your whole belief system (everything you know about God) could be a lie.


I didn't mean to get all preachy. it had to be said.

That's why it's hard for me to learn on here. Most people, including me, have a biased view ( a preconceived notion) before even starting a debate.

Sure you didn't read my post.

I was telling baby How I felt before I studied the Bible.

As I am one of those fake feminists who got married and is a Christian.

I will get my full license when I decide to quit being married, quit being a Christian and start hating on men regardless of if such a man is good or bad.

Then the board that certifies true feminists founded and headed by pickabeau and babe will give me my license

Shollypopzz:
Who are you to define what a real or a fake feminist is? Is this the new thing?? Who died and made y'all Judge Judy for feminism??

The point of feminism is to give women the ability to make their own choices. A feminist does not stop being a feminist if she chooses that her husband be her head/head her home. As long as it was a choice she made........

BTW, a lot of other feminists might see her as lukewarm, but her feminist card is not revoked.

Shollypopzz:
What discourse?? Was I have a discussion with you? Is there only one argument going on in this thread?? What "aggro"?? Are you deflecting??

I funny it funny when an illogical person tell me to be logical. The irony of it all

"So to you accepting a man as her head in marriage is a choice the woman makes and she can revoke it as she wills?"

Isn't it funny that the person that knows nothing about feminism is the one telling others who is areal and a fake feminist??
Yes, she has to make that choice. The choice will not be made for her because of her gender, it is hers to make.

"What exactly is situational"??

It is an individual headship!

Woman...calm down and follow d discourse
Nobody is talking about feminism..that horse has bolted

We are talking here of the ideology viz a viz headship in marriage
Christians believe the man is the head of the family
You are saying its a choice which is dependent on circumstances?

Right?

pickabeau1:
So who is the author of the bible?

Casting aspersions on the authority of the Bible now....

Who is the author of the bible?
I don't know Moses, Paul, Matthew, ring-a-bell?

Well do you believe a Christian should follow the bible verbatim?
Yes No? (No ambiguous rigmarole answers)

If yes, so you would sanction violence and rape against non Christains?
If No, why the heck are you arguing with me?

cococandy:
As I am one of those fake feminists who got married and is a Christian.

I will get my full license when I decide to quit being married, quit being a Christian and start hating on men regardless of if such a man is good or bad.

Then the board that certifies true feminists founded and headed by pickabeau and babe will give me my license

Ha ha..

We've been through this..coco
You are a pick and choose feminist

You believe in bride price, not a fan of homosexuality and transgender rights

You just picked up some stuff online Like many here and chant it.

bukatyne:
Sure you didn't read my post.

I was telling baby How I felt before I studied the Bible.

That's my point madam bukatyne.

You shouldn't have felt that way before reading. You should have kept an open mind. That lowers the probability of you twisting facts and evidence.

Like my teachers used to tell me in school, don't choose a side on a subject before starting a research. Research, then choose a side.

cococandy:
Who is the author of the bible?
I don't know Moses, Paul, Matthew, ring-a-bell?

Well do you believe a Christian should follow the bible verbatim?
Yes No? (No ambiguous rigmarole answers)

If yes, so you would sanction violence and rape against non Christains?
If No, why the heck are you arguing with me?

If you believe those you mentioned are the authors of the bible
No need for further debate

I only picked that point to correct the error

The bible while written by men was inspired by the Spirit
It is the word of God and anyone who removes or adds to it causes a grievous sin

Read the bible with understanding rather than focusing on the letter

I would not sanction violence
The Bible States that all souls are His and he wants not the destruction of anyone

pickabeau1:
Woman...calm down and follow d discourse
Nobody is talking about feminism..that horse has bolted

We are talking here of the ideology viz a viz headship in marriage
Christians believe the man is the head of the family
You are saying its a choice which is dependent on circumstances?

Right?

Man, Shut up and use your head before you start telling me what to do.

Why should I follow the discourse when my point has been made on the relationship between Christian and feminism a long time ago??

You made a stup1d claim that a real feminist will not let a man lead her and that was the part of your post I responded to. What is my business with your discourse?? Even in context of your discourse, your comment is still stup1d.

Shollypopzz:
[s]
Man, Shut up and use your head before you start telling me what to do.

Why should I follow the discourse when my point has been made on the relationship between Christian and feminism a long time ago??

You made a stup1d claim that a real feminist will not let a man lead her and that was the part of your post I responded to? What is my business with your discourse?? Even in context of your discourse, your comment is still stup1d.[/s]

Crap

cococandy:
As I am one of those fake feminists who got married and is a Christian.

I will get my full license when I decide to quit being married, quit being a Christian and start hating on men regardless of if such a man is good or bad.

Then the board that certifies true feminists founded and headed by pickabeau and babe will give me my license

LMAO! I think people missed my earlier post on this thread. I'm with Crackhaus on this one, I can't help but side-eye Christian feminists who blatantly deny the sexism in the bible.

pickabeau1:
Ha ha..

We've been through this..coco
You are a pick and choose feminist

You believe in bride price, not a fan of homosexuality and transgender rights

You just picked up some stuff online Like many here and chant it.

plus, she thinks feminism has got nothing to do with marriage
she also thinks her husband is the head
nd she is a christian

coco would be better off making egusi soup and pounded yam in a small restaurant.......

cococandy:
For me I don't think that's a problem really.
If I didn't pick what part of the bible to follow, I would be enemies with my non Christian neighbor because some part of the Old Testament prescribes killing them, looting their towns and raping their women for insulting the most high God.
That is why for me as Christian, my guide is the word out of Jesus' mouth himself.
I can't be naive or pretentious enough to say that I believe the humanness of other authors of the bible couldn't have gotten in the way of their message.

So how many Christians would really do what the bible says word for word?
I wouldn't want to be near such a person.

Because while Christ's message of love is eternal and can never be outdated no matter the setting in which we find ourselves(since very human being responds to love in a positive way)
The prevailing culture and practices at the time which undeniably colored the POVs of some of the writers have no place in the world of today.

Anyone who thinks I'm not a true Christian for saying this can go to his non-Christian neighbor's house and kill him for not being a follower or deny such a person job opportunity because the bible says we should not associate with non-christains.
Or Kill a self-confessed witch because the bible says we should not suffer a witch to live.

Then he or she can come back on NL and tell us how Christianly it felt to follow such biblical teaching verbatim.
A true follower of Christ will NEVER do word for word all that the bible teaches.

Needless to say Christ is not the author of the bible.

If the main message of Christ is love your neighbor as yourself, what makes Christianity so special then? Just asking.

Laozi, Buddha, Confucius, even Mohammed preached "love" Before any of them, there was love.
So, what's the deal ?

pickabeau1:
Crap

If you can't logically defend your claims, don't spew jargon. Olodo

njokusboy:
plus, she thinks feminism has got nothing to do with marriage
she also thinks her husband is the head
nd she is a christian

coco would be better off making egusi soup and pounded yam in a small restaurant.......

Lol

Shollypopzz:
If you can't logically defend your claims, don't spew jargon. Olodo

You remind me of a bull in a China shop
You just come in
Make no points argue here
Cuss there
Then now say u have a point?


What point are u even talking about
U just jumped in....no contextual basis

Clownish jumper

cococandy:
As I am one of those fake feminists who got married and is a Christian.

I will get my full license when I decide to quit being married, quit being a Christian and start hating on men regardless of if such a man is good or bad.

Then the board that certifies true feminists founded and headed by pickabeau and babe will give me my license

What did babe do?

BABE3:
That's my point madam bukatyne.

You shouldn't have felt that way before reading. You should have kept an open mind. That lowers the probability of you twisting facts and evidence.

Like my teachers used to tell me in school, don't choose a side on a subject before starting a research. Research, then choose a side.

Life is not always that way.

I grew up in a Christian household however the word never sunk because of the bias I had.

I decided to research to take a stand and I am glad I did.

bukatyne:
Life is not always that way.

I grew up in a Christian household however the word never sunk because of the bias I had.

I decided to research to take a stand and I am glad I did.

Good for you.

BABE3:
we're not talking about heavenly matters. When we get to heaven all of us will be on the same level (so they say). Heaven.. the extra magical disneyland.

So you do accept that there's an hierarchy on earth? Good. And jesus was okay with it? Sweet. If he wasn't, he would have spoken on women's rights. Cool.

Back to my question Stillfire, why did he make the husband the head, if we're all "one in Christ"?

Nope. I hope I am talking to a Christian, otherwise do not waste my time. You are called to live with such qualities on earth as well as in heaven.
Where did I accept hierarchy on earth?
Hierarchy was never the original plan of God. It was as a result of a curse.

coogar:
so why then does the same new testament say no woman should make a sound in church. if she's unclear about any teaching, she should direct the question to her husband.

We have had this discussion before. Bible scholars say Paul mediated over various matters that may arise in each church and he set guidelines for each church to follow. The book of corithinans, is actually the book for the church in corinthians. If the women of corinth were troublesome, it doesn't mean women in Antioch were. That was the way he settled the matter for the people of corinth. That is why christianity permits both men and women to preach.

cococandy:
For me I don't think that's a problem really.
If I didn't pick what part of the bible to follow, I would be enemies with my non Christian neighbor because some part of the Old Testament prescribes killing them, looting their towns and raping their women for insulting the most high God.
That is why for me as Christian, my guide is the word out of Jesus' mouth himself.
I can't be naive or pretentious enough to say that I believe the humanness of other authors of the bible couldn't have gotten in the way of their message.

So how many Christians would really do what the bible says word for word?
I wouldn't want to be near such a person.

Because while Christ's message of love is eternal and can never be outdated no matter the setting in which we find ourselves(since very human being responds to love in a positive way)
The prevailing culture and practices at the time which undeniably colored the POVs of some of the writers have no place in the world of today.

Anyone who thinks I'm not a true Christian for saying this can go to his non-Christian neighbor's house and kill him for not being a follower or deny such a person job opportunity because the bible says we should not associate with non-christains.
Or Kill a self-confessed witch because the bible says we should not suffer a witch to live.

Then he or she can come back on NL and tell us how Christianly it felt to follow such biblical teaching verbatim.
A true follower of Christ will NEVER do word for word all that the bible teaches.

Needless to say Christ is not the author of the bible.

I understand exactly what you mean but while you pick and choose one that is for the good of everybody, some people choose the part of the bible that teaches them to be violent and wicked towards other people.