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I swear down>this s so onPoint

1stola:
Good

Bad.

Today is my daughter's 1 year birthday.
Can some one wish her happy birthday am sooo happy.

In my own Church in the Ibadan Anglican Diocese.
The youths are thoroughly engaged in all of the Church's activities; I can't start reeling all the benefits the youths in my Church are parts of.

Just note that if a Church has human beings as members DO NOT FORGET that it can't be perfect!

N.B.
If all these you stated are actually happening in your Church, I'd suggest you see your General Overseer

Please know that the ultimate aim of all christian is to make heaven while others follow.

Attend MFM you will see improvement in your life and you will testify.

AllNaijaBlogger:
Anyone that has had to take care of teenagers or young people in general knows that it is a very tedious task that requires patience and understanding. If a parent or guardian can’t relate to young people in terms of the prevalent youth culture at the time, the parent/guardian would face a great deal of frustration in directing most youths towards a moral path in life. What compounds this issue is that the internet and modern mass media have given young people so much information and opportunities such that parent/guardians can not keep up with their (the youth) thinking.

This is also a problem for many churches as they are not keeping up with the needs of the youth of today. To lose the interest of the youth is to lose the future of the church and below, are five ways churches of today in Nigeria tend to drive these youths away from the house of God-


1) Ageism (adultism) and disrespect towards younger people by church staff
From experience, I can say comfortably that Nigerian culture permeates Nigerian churches, and deeply rooted within Nigerian culture is adultocracy, in which the respect of the elderly and adults are prioritised sometimes at the expense of the youth. For instance, when waiting to see a pastor or reverend father, young people are made to wait for long periods with no information while an elderly person would be given a swift service- the older person would be told how long he or she is to wait and also be told about the whereabouts of the pastor/priest.

Another instance is where ushers in the church shout at younger people when directing them to seat or move in the church hall but will be calm when they are directing older people. I have even seen it twice where a church staff member was shouting and embarrassing a teenage couple about "fornication" just because the couple were flirting in the church premises after the church service.

As someone that has been to many churches of different denominations with various friends in those different churches, I can say that such behaviour is endemic and it needs to be changed. Young people too have rights and feelings. The discriminatory treatment turns the youth off from coming to church.


2) Lack of relevant preaching to youths
Youth problems are far beyond "respect your parents and teachers". There are important moral issues facing the youth such as; sex, porn addiction, on the internet, bullying at school, abuse from adults, anti-social behaviours and so on. This is where churches need a good youth pastor who can relate to such youth problems.

Many churches prefer to speak against pre-marital sex to teens and young people but they forget that the young people are more interested in how to approach the opposite sex or the person that they have a crush on. A good youth preacher would explain to the youth how to create a God-fearing relationship with their close friends or partners, rather than just spouting the usual anti-pre-marital sex doctrine. Also, when preaching to youth, Nigerian churches fail to use terms that the young people will understand. For instance, using a young musician like Wizkid to explain the problems with a materialistic life would be more relevant to youth than explaining it with plain theology.


3) Lack of youth programmes
Many churches have little or no youth programmes that would interest the young people in the church. Even the ones that do have very boring programmes- they consider "choir and drama" to be everything young people need. Personally, I never could sing or act as a youth and so, I didn't really enjoy the youth programme in my church. There are other things that could engage the interest of the youth in church such as trips to religious sites/places and creative classes. Some churches have good youth programmes, I know of a few that have football matches among their youth,which is also a good idea.


4) Refusal to deal with "internet questions"
There are a lot of facts and also nonsense on the internet. It is inevitable that young people will pick up strange things on the internet and will want clarification on such things. For instance, I remember a teenager asking a pastor about the Church of England's acceptance of gay priests- the pastor just concluded that the issue is beyond the teen's understanding. The teenager probably read it on the internet and was wondering if it was possible on the internet. The issue here is that pastors or priests should be ready for such controversial questions from the youth as they have curious minds at that age and are still learning. Dismissing their questions will only drive them to find questions elsewhere. Furthermore, not answering religious questions that pertain to the church makes it seem as if the church has something to hide.


5) Resistance to technology
Some churches frown upon the use of Ipads or tablets to read bible passages. Some churches that have multi-million dollar buildings prefer to use televisions to broadcast educational material to youth members instead of multi-functional projectors. Some churches do not have a functional website that provides information on church activities. Times are changing and churches need to adapt. The youth are becoming more dependent on technology and there is a need to engage them on that level.

http://allnaijablog.com/5-ways-nigerian-churches-drive-youths-away

Mine reason I had to leave the church my mum attends to another. I'm so shocked when adults in the church start judging the youths by there looks very annoying or never talking about what affects us or how to fix it only talking about What we didn't do right

kentochi:
Today is my daughter's 1 year birthday.
Can some one wish her happy birthday am sooo happy.

wish her the best life has to offer

FLAWLES:
I swear down>this s so onPoint

Like decimal

i say we close all churches...nigeria needs public toilet...i say turn all churches to public-toilets,like this they can be usefull for ones.....

christians piss me off...how can you shake your neighbors hand in the church,and the next day you cheat him

TO HELL WITH CHRISTIANITY.....

and dont even try to bring that white-jesus to me....na thunder go fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeee you.....

Thats how they drove me last sunday,now im home lol

I wish my youth fellowship was a lil. More bubbling. I love God and I serve him and I really want to function. But this people still look at the outward. Cos I'm a model and actor. Na my fault say I fine tall and get muscle ? I wish there's an interdenominational youth meeting (cos I no won leave) where I can function

Another is criticizing what they wear (cloths,ear rings, chain, bands etc) and also regarding some "rants" as sins. (Hairstyle, trouser, make up) etc. If u tell me such, I will neverstep on uUr church again. Rubbish

Sweetguy25:
Can't remember the last time i went to church sef. Such a boring place.

I see.......

mcdokwe:
The youths are running away and not the other way round

Because they are being driven away

Who cares about church

AllNaijaBlogger:
Anyone that has had to take care of teenagers or young people in general knows that it is a very tedious task that requires patience and understanding. If a parent or guardian can’t relate to young people in terms of the prevalent youth culture at the time, the parent/guardian would face a great deal of frustration in directing most youths towards a moral path in life. What compounds this issue is that the internet and modern mass media have given young people so much information and opportunities such that parent/guardians can not keep up with their (the youth) thinking.

This is also a problem for many churches as they are not keeping up with the needs of the youth of today. To lose the interest of the youth is to lose the future of the church and below, are five ways churches of today in Nigeria tend to drive these youths away from the house of God-


1) Ageism (adultism) and disrespect towards younger people by church staff
From experience, I can say comfortably that Nigerian culture permeates Nigerian churches, and deeply rooted within Nigerian culture is adultocracy, in which the respect of the elderly and adults are prioritised sometimes at the expense of the youth. For instance, when waiting to see a pastor or reverend father, young people are made to wait for long periods with no information while an elderly person would be given a swift service- the older person would be told how long he or she is to wait and also be told about the whereabouts of the pastor/priest.

Another instance is where ushers in the church shout at younger people when directing them to seat or move in the church hall but will be calm when they are directing older people. I have even seen it twice where a church staff member was shouting and embarrassing a teenage couple about "fornication" just because the couple were flirting in the church premises after the church service.

As someone that has been to many churches of different denominations with various friends in those different churches, I can say that such behaviour is endemic and it needs to be changed. Young people too have rights and feelings. The discriminatory treatment turns the youth off from coming to church.


2) Lack of relevant preaching to youths
Youth problems are far beyond "respect your parents and teachers". There are important moral issues facing the youth such as; sex, porn addiction, on the internet, bullying at school, abuse from adults, anti-social behaviours and so on. This is where churches need a good youth pastor who can relate to such youth problems.

Many churches prefer to speak against pre-marital sex to teens and young people but they forget that the young people are more interested in how to approach the opposite sex or the person that they have a crush on. A good youth preacher would explain to the youth how to create a God-fearing relationship with their close friends or partners, rather than just spouting the usual anti-pre-marital sex doctrine. Also, when preaching to youth, Nigerian churches fail to use terms that the young people will understand. For instance, using a young musician like Wizkid to explain the problems with a materialistic life would be more relevant to youth than explaining it with plain theology.


3) Lack of youth programmes
Many churches have little or no youth programmes that would interest the young people in the church. Even the ones that do have very boring programmes- they consider "choir and drama" to be everything young people need. Personally, I never could sing or act as a youth and so, I didn't really enjoy the youth programme in my church. There are other things that could engage the interest of the youth in church such as trips to religious sites/places and creative classes. Some churches have good youth programmes, I know of a few that have football matches among their youth,which is also a good idea.


4) Refusal to deal with "internet questions"
There are a lot of facts and also nonsense on the internet. It is inevitable that young people will pick up strange things on the internet and will want clarification on such things. For instance, I remember a teenager asking a pastor about the Church of England's acceptance of gay priests- the pastor just concluded that the issue is beyond the teen's understanding. The teenager probably read it on the internet and was wondering if it was possible on the internet. The issue here is that pastors or priests should be ready for such controversial questions from the youth as they have curious minds at that age and are still learning. Dismissing their questions will only drive them to find questions elsewhere. Furthermore, not answering religious questions that pertain to the church makes it seem as if the church has something to hide.


5) Resistance to technology
Some churches frown upon the use of Ipads or tablets to read bible passages. Some churches that have multi-million dollar buildings prefer to use televisions to broadcast educational material to youth members instead of multi-functional projectors. Some churches do not have a functional website that provides information on church activities. Times are changing and churches need to adapt. The youth are becoming more dependent on technology and there is a need to engage them on that level.

http://allnaijablog.com/5-ways-nigerian-churches-drive-youths-away

@op

So true and the most annoying thing is that the evil the so called elders do behind closed doors is unspeakable. Yet they act as if they are holier than the youths.

The most important thing is that the Youths should know the Word of God.

It's hard not to think that the some churches feel threatened by the vast knowledge of the youths and or them knowing the Truth.

Just saying....

AllNaijaBlogger:
I am trying but my church is a small church.



By the way, a gerontocracy is a system of government. The more appropriate word in this context would be "adultocracy".

gerontocracy is a system of govt but its more aPpropriate 4d discussion. Systems of govt arent limited †☺ state politics but its applicable †☺ any entity with a decision making structure whether church, football club, business entity e.t.c

tsdarkside:
i say we close all churches...nigeria needs public toilet...i say turn all churches to public-toilets,like this they can be usefull for ones.....

christians piss me off...how can you shake your neighbors hand in the church,and the next day you cheat him

TO HELL WITH CHRISTIANITY.....

and dont even try to bring that white-jesus to me....na thunder go fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeee you.....

Not all Christians are the same....take it easy

My own description of religion is a place where a group of people gather to sponsor and help a certain man achieve his dreams (Pastor and Imam) while the others labour for him.

This man is always right, His own phone is always ON while the members are asked to SWITCH OFF their phones.

His own CHILDREN can walk round the church until they locate their mother, while other CHILDREN are address with the MICROPHONE.

Whatever he says is RIGHT is RIGHT while whatsoever he says is WRONG is WRONG if you like kill yourself.

When you decide to STAND your ground then you become a child of the DEVIL especially if you are a YOUTH.

This man LOVE the PRETENDERS hence forcing others to PRETEND to get love while that free-spirit young man or lady is the BAD EGG

swankylay:
Another is criticizing what they wear (cloths,ear rings, chain, bands etc) and also regarding some "rants" as sins. (Hairstyle, trouser, make up) etc. If u tell me such, I will neverstep on uUr church again. Rubbish

All na hypocrisy .....

Talk of Pas Matthew's(UK) initial vision before it started "Changing hands" with kudi.

Jerryolumide:
Like decimal

>

gbl01:
It's not about youth or adult preachers and traditional programmes?

I thought the focus is on God!




Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man . . . living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of 10 specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money

Lol. I can't help but laugh. This shít sounds funny.

So true.. I have stopped attending d youth fellowship in my church.. Annoying messages like ds eh coupled wit a over 40 yrs old man as youth pastor... I don kuku join adults...

The major reason is that young people have active minds and are in a stage where they begin to reflect on life. They realize church is bullpoo and move to more progressive things

AllNaijaBlogger:
Anyone that has had to take care of teenagers or young people in general knows that it is a very tedious task that requires patience and understanding. If a parent or guardian can’t relate to young people in terms of the prevalent youth culture at the time, the parent/guardian would face a great deal of frustration in directing most youths towards a moral path in life. What compounds this issue is that the internet and modern mass media have given young people so much information and opportunities such that parent/guardians can not keep up with their (the youth) thinking.

This is also a problem for many churches as they are not keeping up with the needs of the youth of today. To lose the interest of the youth is to lose the future of the church and below, are five ways churches of today in Nigeria tend to drive these youths away from the house of God-


1) Ageism (adultism) and disrespect towards younger people by church staff
From experience, I can say comfortably that Nigerian culture permeates Nigerian churches, and deeply rooted within Nigerian culture is adultocracy, in which the respect of the elderly and adults are prioritised sometimes at the expense of the youth. For instance, when waiting to see a pastor or reverend father, young people are made to wait for long periods with no information while an elderly person would be given a swift service- the older person would be told how long he or she is to wait and also be told about the whereabouts of the pastor/priest.

Another instance is where ushers in the church shout at younger people when directing them to seat or move in the church hall but will be calm when they are directing older people. I have even seen it twice where a church staff member was shouting and embarrassing a teenage couple about "fornication" just because the couple were flirting in the church premises after the church service.

As someone that has been to many churches of different denominations with various friends in those different churches, I can say that such behaviour is endemic and it needs to be changed. Young people too have rights and feelings. The discriminatory treatment turns the youth off from coming to church.


2) Lack of relevant preaching to youths
Youth problems are far beyond "respect your parents and teachers". There are important moral issues facing the youth such as; sex, porn addiction, on the internet, bullying at school, abuse from adults, anti-social behaviours and so on. This is where churches need a good youth pastor who can relate to such youth problems.

Many churches prefer to speak against pre-marital sex to teens and young people but they forget that the young people are more interested in how to approach the opposite sex or the person that they have a crush on. A good youth preacher would explain to the youth how to create a God-fearing relationship with their close friends or partners, rather than just spouting the usual anti-pre-marital sex doctrine. Also, when preaching to youth, Nigerian churches fail to use terms that the young people will understand. For instance, using a young musician like Wizkid to explain the problems with a materialistic life would be more relevant to youth than explaining it with plain theology.


3) Lack of youth programmes
Many churches have little or no youth programmes that would interest the young people in the church. Even the ones that do have very boring programmes- they consider "choir and drama" to be everything young people need. Personally, I never could sing or act as a youth and so, I didn't really enjoy the youth programme in my church. There are other things that could engage the interest of the youth in church such as trips to religious sites/places and creative classes. Some churches have good youth programmes, I know of a few that have football matches among their youth,which is also a good idea.


4) Refusal to deal with "internet questions"
There are a lot of facts and also nonsense on the internet. It is inevitable that young people will pick up strange things on the internet and will want clarification on such things. For instance, I remember a teenager asking a pastor about the Church of England's acceptance of gay priests- the pastor just concluded that the issue is beyond the teen's understanding. The teenager probably read it on the internet and was wondering if it was possible on the internet. The issue here is that pastors or priests should be ready for such controversial questions from the youth as they have curious minds at that age and are still learning. Dismissing their questions will only drive them to find questions elsewhere. Furthermore, not answering religious questions that pertain to the church makes it seem as if the church has something to hide.


5) Resistance to technology
Some churches frown upon the use of Ipads or tablets to read bible passages. Some churches that have multi-million dollar buildings prefer to use televisions to broadcast educational material to youth members instead of multi-functional projectors. Some churches do not have a functional website that provides information on church activities. Times are changing and churches need to adapt. The youth are becoming more dependent on technology and there is a need to engage them on that level.

http://allnaijablog.com/5-ways-nigerian-churches-drive-youths-away

Very true and they forget that the youths are the future ministers. This is a clarion call to all churches to carry youths along in all aspects.

AllNaijaBlogger:
Anyone that has had to take care of teenagers or young people in general knows that it is a very tedious task that requires patience and understanding. If a parent or guardian can’t relate to young people in terms of the prevalent youth culture at the time, the parent/guardian would face a great deal of frustration in directing most youths towards a moral path in life. What compounds this issue is that the internet and modern mass media have given young people so much information and opportunities such that parent/guardians can not keep up with their (the youth) thinking.

This is also a problem for many churches as they are not keeping up with the needs of the youth of today. To lose the interest of the youth is to lose the future of the church and below, are five ways churches of today in Nigeria tend to drive these youths away from the house of God-


1) Ageism (adultism) and disrespect towards younger people by church staff
From experience, I can say comfortably that Nigerian culture permeates Nigerian churches, and deeply rooted within Nigerian culture is adultocracy, in which the respect of the elderly and adults are prioritised sometimes at the expense of the youth. For instance, when waiting to see a pastor or reverend father, young people are made to wait for long periods with no information while an elderly person would be given a swift service- the older person would be told how long he or she is to wait and also be told about the whereabouts of the pastor/priest.

Another instance is where ushers in the church shout at younger people when directing them to seat or move in the church hall but will be calm when they are directing older people. I have even seen it twice where a church staff member was shouting and embarrassing a teenage couple about "fornication" just because the couple were flirting in the church premises after the church service.

As someone that has been to many churches of different denominations with various friends in those different churches, I can say that such behaviour is endemic and it needs to be changed. Young people too have rights and feelings. The discriminatory treatment turns the youth off from coming to church.


2) Lack of relevant preaching to youths
Youth problems are far beyond "respect your parents and teachers". There are important moral issues facing the youth such as; sex, porn addiction, on the internet, bullying at school, abuse from adults, anti-social behaviours and so on. This is where churches need a good youth pastor who can relate to such youth problems.

Many churches prefer to speak against pre-marital sex to teens and young people but they forget that the young people are more interested in how to approach the opposite sex or the person that they have a crush on. A good youth preacher would explain to the youth how to create a God-fearing relationship with their close friends or partners, rather than just spouting the usual anti-pre-marital sex doctrine. Also, when preaching to youth, Nigerian churches fail to use terms that the young people will understand. For instance, using a young musician like Wizkid to explain the problems with a materialistic life would be more relevant to youth than explaining it with plain theology.


3) Lack of youth programmes
Many churches have little or no youth programmes that would interest the young people in the church. Even the ones that do have very boring programmes- they consider "choir and drama" to be everything young people need. Personally, I never could sing or act as a youth and so, I didn't really enjoy the youth programme in my church. There are other things that could engage the interest of the youth in church such as trips to religious sites/places and creative classes. Some churches have good youth programmes, I know of a few that have football matches among their youth,which is also a good idea.


4) Refusal to deal with "internet questions"
There are a lot of facts and also nonsense on the internet. It is inevitable that young people will pick up strange things on the internet and will want clarification on such things. For instance, I remember a teenager asking a pastor about the Church of England's acceptance of gay priests- the pastor just concluded that the issue is beyond the teen's understanding. The teenager probably read it on the internet and was wondering if it was possible on the internet. The issue here is that pastors or priests should be ready for such controversial questions from the youth as they have curious minds at that age and are still learning. Dismissing their questions will only drive them to find questions elsewhere. Furthermore, not answering religious questions that pertain to the church makes it seem as if the church has something to hide.


5) Resistance to technology
Some churches frown upon the use of Ipads or tablets to read bible passages. Some churches that have multi-million dollar buildings prefer to use televisions to broadcast educational material to youth members instead of multi-functional projectors. Some churches do not have a functional website that provides information on church activities. Times are changing and churches need to adapt. The youth are becoming more dependent on technology and there is a need to engage them on that level.

http://allnaijablog.com/5-ways-nigerian-churches-drive-youths-away

services thatt are simply boring
Services that do not relate to thee youth. Eg. Pastor preaching about work. Forcing youth to pray. Prayers that dosent concern ddem. Eg.praying to get back a. Lost job.
Services that finish late/aretoo long/after the proposed time.

I tend to sleep off when they preach in native languages




GIVE ME A PREACHER THAT PREACHES IN FLUENT ENGLISH & YOU HAVE MY UNDIVIDED ATTENTION . . . . . Thats why i dont like going home during school breaks . . COME FELLOWSHIPS ON CAMPUS & WISH TO STAY IN CHURCH. I dont know. . Some churches do the above to me.....i


because i get small body, you will tell me to sit with 15 year olds. . Me kuku yabb dem, na do dem free me. .
Reason i love RCCG, APAPA FAMILY(JESUS EMBASSY). Oyo PROVINCE 4 na im make sense pass in all oyo. Their parish is a ZONAL HEADQUARTERS SOMEWHERE ELSE .

OP , I think you do not want to get to old age since you feel respecting elderly people to the expense of the youths is a crime by the church, then do not wish to get old.Anywhere in the world, elderly people are respected and given audience and attention. I wonder what has given you this mindset of having to bring church in here.

In the bible, it is written; children, respect your father and your mother so that your days may be long. Father and mother here does not mean that it is your biological parents ONLY you should respect but all elderly person.

In Taxes, USA, a young guy was sentenced to death penalty because he snatched a bag of an elderly person. Over there in the developed world, elders are been respected even in the churches.

I figure that you are not properly brought up hence your topic.This has nothing to do with a church. A well brought up child should be able to know what to do when they go to any church.It has to do with the attitude of the youths who only go to church to either look for girlfriend or to show off what they are wearing.

So true