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internetpirate:
So, Igbos should keep quiet while Hausas and Yorubas marginalise them via concocted census figures! What you may not know is that what you call Igbo is an amalgam of various tribes and dialects!! Minorities exist there too!

More so, if a major tribe like the Igbos can be allowed to be marginalised, where is the hope for minorities?

you are spewing hogwash

The Hausa, Ibos, Ijaws and Yorubas are the one marginalising the minority groups in Nigeria

Despite having a whopping 48%, the Bosniaks for the sake of Political Justice and Equity agreed with the Serb (37%) and the Croats (17%) to share every seat in both parliament equally. This is equity and justice!

This is EQUALITY and not EQUITY.

pazeinza:
The title of your thread reads 'POLITICAL INEQUALITY IN NIGERIA'. I dont know how/where this fictitious Lower Niger came in.

The Shuwa Arabs have suffered enough political inequality in Nigeria, its high time they are given a fair share of natioanl recognition too

His bigotry is politically motivated. While he might not hate or dislike any tribe, he is willing to throw mud at them for his political interests.

Months back this same person was here insulting Igbo because he felt his cause was against them.
Today, they are his best friend because he needs their political will behind him.
His is very similar to Jimi Agbaje

See through the hypocrisy and eat popcorn

Bevista:
This is EQUALITY and not EQUITY.

Lmao

HAUSA, YORUBA, IGBO, IJAW SHOULD STOP MARGINALISING THE SHUWA ARABS.
WE NEED POLITICAL EQUALITY IN NIGERIA. THE SHUW ARABS ARE ALSO NIGERIANS TOO

barcanista:
you sound pathetic. Ojukwu(of cursed memory) ran away frm battle after Adekunle had taught him the lessons of his life. His Deputy, Useless Effiong surrendered and you are saying that it was planned? Hahahaah
You should be ashamed that Coward Ojukwu was ashamed of his own people, hence he couldn't invest in the East nor build properties there. Coward Ojukwu looted the treasury as Eastern Governor while you ppl suffer. He(Ojukokoro) contested for and lost ALL elections on his own turf to even a Yorubaman(Obj) and Fulaniman (Yaradua). He even lost WOEFULLY in his Senate bid to a Newbie in Nnewi. Even today, an Ijawman in the person of Goodluck Jonathan is considered the MESSIAH and GOD of the Igbos over any Iboman. That same Ijawman will always hold Adekunle in highest esteem.
Adekunle on the otherhand may not by RICH but his reputation as a greatman and heroics lives with him and after him. Today, we can't talk of the success of the Nigerian Army over Biafran secessionist without Adekunle name. His generation shall be proud.

See the turncoat /bigot who is now speaking in favour of the Igbos. Are you our mouthpiece? Did we at anytime complain to you? What should be the most important thing is performance and merit in governance.

barcanista:
The thing is that nobody is begging anybody to consider amendment, it is a growing demand that will either be met through round table or be resolved via referendum.

and with the referendum the north would still hold sway by virtue of their numbers.....

Mynd44:
His bigotry is politically motivated. While he might not hate or dislike any tribe, he is willing to throw mud at them for his political interests.

Months back this same person was here insulting Igbo because he felt his cause was against them.
Today, they are his best friend because he needs their political will behind him.
His is very similar to Jimi Agbaje

See through the hypocrisy and eat popcorn

his hypocrisy stinks to the heavens

here he is amking case for the ibos; the same ibos that have the SGF, deputy senate president, senate speaker, several ministers, D.G's, and perm secs while the Shuwa Arabs dont have a single local governemnt councillor

pazeinza:
you are spewing hogwash

The Hausa, Ibos, Ijaws and Yorubas are the one marginalising the minority groups in Nigeria

I disagree.

Nigerian are marginalizing Nigerians. It is all a matter of interest to all of us. The Modakekes and Ife will love to think they are the same until someone is running for office take the Osun elections as an example.

Imagine Abia sacking every "non-indigene" Igbo descent or not.

Imagine the Ngwas saying "Those who work against their interest (in the same Abia) will die).

Nigerians are clowns as even within tribes people are marginalized. In the East, the Catholics and Anglicans still have issues.

Ilawe and Ado still has issues.

Even the tribes in the SS are not united

Mynd44:
What you need to do is bring the number of representative viz-a-vis population and not say that a certain tribe deserved to have this or that.

You forget that the NW is not only populated by the natives right? There are a other ethnic groups who have settled there and the include Igbos too who are represented there.

The whole idea of this thread is just silly. How many members does Ekiti have? Zamfara?

Representation is by population and until a sane census is done to reflect that, you can cry marginalization all you want

Since that big leap into the wllderness , #op has been moving rapidly down the ladder of credibility. He has moved to a one way street... he must go round every day to get home.

What would he think of next? New state boundaries or reclaiming Bakassi?

THE KAMBERI, JUNKUN, KANURI, SHUWA ARAB, EGBIRRA, EGGON, GBAGYI, BACCHAMA etc ARE ALSO NIGERIANS TOO.

WE NEED POLITICAL EQUALITY IN NIGERIA

barcanista:
By region I mean North, West and East (going back to the default). The region can create as many states and sub-groups as they like within themselves. But they must have equal representation in the central parliament.

what u r insinuating is actually rational but the north who r being favoured by the present arrangement will never accept this resolution

Mynd44:
Lmao

It's true bro. If three friends (A, B & C) start a business together. A invests 500k, B invests 300k and C invests 200k, will it be EQUITABLE for the three of them to have EQUAL amount of shares in the company (i.e. barring any other inputs)?

Mynd44:
I disagree.

Nigerian are marginalizing Nigerians. It is all a matter of interest to all of us. The Modakekes and Ife will love to think they are the same until someone is running for office take the Osun elections as an example.

Imagine Abia sacking every "non-indigene" Igbo descent or not.

Imagine the Ngwas saying "Those who work against their interest (in the same Abia) will die).

Nigerians are clowns as even within tribes people are marginalized. In the East, the Catholics and Anglicans still have issues.

Ilawe and Ado still has issues.

Even the tribes in the SS are not united

Yes i know. I understand your point clearly. I just wanted to flow along with their warped logic.

Two days ago there ws a thread on the fp about how the other ibos hate and marginalise the ibos from ebonyi state

barcanista:
According to 2012 United States factsheet, Nigeria has 250 ethnic groups. The most populous and politically influential include: Hausa and Fulani 29%, Yoruba 21%, Igbo (Ibo) 18%, Ijaw 10%, Kanuri 4%, Ibibio 3.5%, Tiv 2.5%. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.html
Looking at the Nigeria political structure especially that of the legislative arm (House of Representatives and Senate), I can't help but question the motive for the numerical advantage in favour of the combined North, and disadvantage in the side of the SS/SE. The whole South East was allocated just 43 Seats in the House of Representative despite that fact that the Igbo ethnic group that dominated the SE is one of the three largest ethnic groups in Nigeria. Whereas North West alone has 92 Seats and South West 71 Seats. Please read below and do comparison with multi-ethnic countries like Bosnia and Herzegovina and the Republic of Kosovo (below)

Nigeria
Federal House of Representative (360 Seats)
North-West: Kaduna (16), Kebbi [8], Zamfara (7) , Sokoto (11), Kano (24), Jigawa (11) and Katsina State (15).
Total: 92
North-East: Taraba (6), Borno (10), Bauchi (12), Adamawa [8], Gombe (6) and Yobe State (6).
Total: 48
North Central: Kogi (9), Niger (10), Benue (11), Kwara (6), Plateau [8], Nassarawa (5) + FCT -2
Total: 49 + 2 =51
South-West: Oyo (14), Ogun (9), Lagos (24), Ekiti(6), Ondo (9) and Osun State (9).
Total:71
South-Easts: Ebonyi (6) Enugu [8], Imo (10), Abia [8] and Anambra State (11).
Total: 43
South-South: Akwa-Ibom (10), Bayelsa (5), Edo (9), Cross River [8], Rivers (13) and Delta State (10).
Total: 55

NW + NE= 140 Seats
NW + NE + NC = 191 Seats
SW (alone) = 71 Seats
SS + SE= 98 Seats

Senate (109 Seats)

North West: 3x7 = 21 Seats, North East: 3x6 = 18 Seats, North Central + FCT: (3x6) + 1= 19 Seats
Total North= 58

South South: 3x6 = 18 and South East: 3x5 = 15
Total SE/SS = 33

South West: 3x6 = 18,

Comparing Nigeria's Situation With Bosnia and Kosovo

1. Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bosnia and Herzegovina is home to three ethnic "constituent peoples": Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats. Ethnically, according to data from 2000 cited by the Central Intelligence Agency, Bosniaks constitute 48% of the population, Serbs 37.1%, Croats 14.3%, and others form 0.6%.

House of People (Senate) With 15 Seats
Bosniaks: 5 Seats
Croats: 5 Seats
Serbs: 5 Seats

House of Representative With 42 Seats
Bosniaks: 14
Croats: 14
Serbs: 14
https://www.parlament.ba/default.aspx?langTag=en-US&pril=b
Despite having a whopping 48%, the Bosniaks for the sake of Political Justice and Equity agreed with the Serb (37%) and the Croats (17%) to share every seat in both parliament equally. This is equity and justice!

2. Republic of KOSOVO
Kosovo is an European state with Albanian majority. According to Records, Ethnic Albanians forms 88% of the population, Serbs 7%, other 5% (Bosniak, Gorani, Roma, Turk, Ashkali, Egyptian, Janjevci – Croats) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo#Demographics

Assembly of Kosovo
The Kosovo Assembly has 120 Members, to recognise the 12% minorities, the country reserved 20 Seats (ie 24%) for the Minorities while the rest 100 can be contested for by anybody. Of the 20 Specially reserved seats, 10 is for Serbs (despite having just 7% of the population), 4 seats for the representatives of the Romani, Ashkali and Egyptians. 3 seats for the Bosniaks, 2 seats for the Turks and 1 seat for the Gorans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_Kosovo

This is a country that the 88% Albanian Majority respect/recognize the right of the 12% ethnic Minorities that it specially reserved 20 Seats for the Minorities.

Equity Or Inequality?
Should we continue to deceive ourselves by holding the opinion that the Nigeria situation is "equity"? Won't it be justified to call for an overhaul of the system and institute a structure that could be deemed and justified in any sane clime if we are to move forward as a people in this arrangement called Nigeria? I believe that a call to address this lopsided "allocation" will be a patriotic one.

Source: http://solomontonye..com/2015/04/the-political-inequality-in-nigeria.html

Rubbish

Can you losers just let the SS people decide what they want?

Why are you forcing SE and SS together

Do you see Edo, Itsekiris and Urhobo with Igbos in your dream?

I now understand why you guys lost Biafra war; is this how you were trying to force war on Yorubas and later called it agreement?

There is no way part of Delta and entire Edo state will join SE. Read your history book

SE has become so irrelevant that SS has now become their cornerstone.

Let your analysis stand on SE without SS

At least respect your forefathers who had fought over the years to be relevant in the scheme of things in Nigeria by not reducing SE to a supporting region to SS; 4th position I meant.

IBOS ARE A MAJOR TRIBE IN NIGERIA. IBOS SHOULD STOP MARGINALISING THE MINORITY

handsometokunbo:
Rubbish

Can you losers just let the SS people decide what they want?

Why are you forcing SE and SS together

Do you see Edo, Itsekiris and Urhobo with Igbos in your dream?

I now understand why you guys lost Biafra war; is this how you were trying to force war on Yorubas and later called it agreement?

There is no way part of Delta and entire Edo state will join SE. Read your history book

SE has become so irrelevant that SS has now become their cornerstone.

Let your analysis stand on SE without SS

At least respect your forefathers who had fought over the years to be relevant in the scheme of things in Nigeria by not reducing SE to a supporting region to SS; 4th position I meant.

He has always been a bigot. Let him remain one

obi4eze:
See the turncoat /bigot who is now speaking in favour of the Igbos. Are you our mouthpiece? Did we at anytime complain to you? What should be the most important thing is performance and merit in governance.

Chiemela, you guys should stop digging up old and denounced posts. Igbos didn't hate him when he made those posts, why do you guys think they will now?

internetpirate:
I have lived in Kaduna and Katsina states! And I'm now in Port Harcourt! Believe me, Port Harcourt is several times more populated than both states mentioned! There is a grand conspiracy to subdue others through fraudulent population statistics, and it's uncharitable for the so-called "progressives" not to call attention to such a monumental fraud!!

Mr man you are a big LIAR. Do you even know why the north has more population?
Ok. Where did you go in Kaduna. Describe the place for me

funny how you grouped the NW, NE, NC as one yet you choose to separate the SE, SW & SS...
Why not group the south together and do a proper analysis...
That the northerners have chosen to rise above tribal differences to speak with a common voice is commendable, you should try to unite the south(though I'd prefer you work for a unified Nigeria) if you want a strong political bloc instead of reminding us of our differences every time an opportunity presents itself...

QuotaSystem:
There is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people.

- Thomas Jefferson

A lot of people will not understand the strong meaning behind this twisted statement by Jefferson. But this explains it all; equality is not always justice.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1822979_justequa_jpeg4c50d6fcba290bfa18ef9f40c59ec464


The north 'allegedly' has a higher population and more landmass than any other region in Nigeria, that is why they have more LGAs, more states and more representatives. The smaller landmass and population of the SE is the reason why the SE has fewer states, fewer LGAs and fewer representatives.

Unfortunately, the population of south-easterners in Nigeria is not necessarily small, but most Igbos live outside the SE zone, thereby unconsciously adding to the population of other zones and reducing the population of the south east.

I suggest the next population census to be conducted in late December.

Bevista:
It's true bro. If three friends (A, B & C) start a business together. A invests 500k, B invests 300k and C invests 200k, will it be EQUITABLE for the three of them to have EQUAL amount of shares in the company (i.e. barring any other inputs)?

Lmaoooooo

obailala:
A lot of people will not understand the strong meaning behind this twisted statement by Jefferson. But this explains it all; equality is not always justice. www.nairaland.com/attachments/1822979_justequa_jpeg4c50d6fcba290bfa18ef9f40c59ec464


The north 'allegedly' has a higher population and more landmass than any other region in Nigeria, hence they have more LGAs, more states and more representatives. Smaller landmass and population is the reason why the SE has fewer states, fewer LGAs and fewer representatives.

Unfortunately, the population of south-easterners in Nigeria is not necessarily small, but most Igbos live outside the SE zone, thereby unconsciously adding to the population of other zones while reducing the population of the south east.

I suggest the next population census to be conducted in late December.

So what is your opinion on quota system that always comes to play whe merit doesn't suit the northerners? You see who they are calling for it to be applied even in a scholarship scheme?

PapiWata:
Ultimately, the "Sudan Solution" will be applied to Nigeria. Let the Izon, the Itshekiri, the Urhobo, the Ogoni and the Ilaje enjoy in full measure the crude oil that lies under the soil of their ancestors, leaving the rest of the nation to look inward for their own resources to sustain the new countries that will devolve when drunken Lord Lugard's failed experiment at tribal unity is finally flushed down the toilet of history.

The west of Nigeria can reap handsomely from its bumper cocoa harvests, in its revived role as an agricultural breadbasket. The north, with its 100 zillion imaginary occupants, can certainly thrive on her legendary groundnut pyramids as it did before crude oil was discovered in the far away Niger Delta, and the East whose inhabitants rank among the most academically brilliant on Planet Earth, can become the Silicon Valley of Africa, where technological innovation creates wealth on a scale never before imagined.

There is nothing wrong with going separate ways for all the ill-fitting pieces of Nigeria's current jigsaw puzzle. Let it go. Just let it go, y'all.

That coloured attribute goes to the West not East Mr bigot.

East would go back to their red oil production.

eCollynzo:
Chiemela, you guys should stop digging up old and denounced posts. Igbos didn't hate him when he made those posts, why do you guys think they will now?

Denounced posts my foot.

He is the biggest bigot on this forum. When did he become our mouthpiece? He should just shut up and stop opening useless threads.

handsometokunbo:
Rubbish

Can you losers just let the SS people decide what they want?

Why are you forcing SE and SS together

Do you see Edo, Itsekiris and Urhobo with Igbos in your dream?

I now understand why you guys lost Biafra war; is this how you were trying to force war on Yorubas and later called it agreement?

There is no way part of Delta and entire Edo state will join SE. Read your history book

SE has become so irrelevant that SS has now become their cornerstone.

Let your analysis stand on SE without SS

At least respect your forefathers who had fought over the years to be relevant in the scheme of things in Nigeria by not reducing SE to a supporting region to SS; 4th position I meant.

You created this handle few days ago 23 APRIL 2015, so why should I not think that you are an impostor?

obailala:
A lot of people will not understand the strong meaning behind this twisted statement by Jefferson. But this explains it all; equality is not always justice.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1822979_justequa_jpeg4c50d6fcba290bfa18ef9f40c59ec464


The north 'allegedly' has a higher population and more landmass than any other region in Nigeria, that is why they have more LGAs, more states and more representatives. The smaller landmass and population of the SE is the reason why the SE has fewer states, fewer LGAs and fewer representatives.

Unfortunately, the population of south-easterners in Nigeria is not necessarily small, but most Igbos live outside the SE zone, thereby unconsciously adding to the population of other zones and reducing the population of the south east.

I suggest the next population census to be conducted in late December.

Truth!!!

How can you defend having equal representation when there is no equal population and you call it "Equity"?

barcanista:
You created this handle few days ago 23 APRIL 2015, so why should I not think that you are an impostor?

He's giving you an idea of what you're going to do soon.
BTW how is your blog doing? Maybe when you get a good number of followers from nairaland you will deactivate?

@barcanista I think its about time our government apply some technical idea on all this population buhuhaha. We suppose to know in exact the number of people from Nigeria,working in Nigeria,Unemployed,Schooling,Graduates,Politicians,Tax payers,business people,artisans,entertainers,etc. Everything about everybody in or from Nigeria in detail. Like in west,immediately one is born the immigration will be contacted to collect the finger prints. Their GoVernment Knows of every single soul living or visiting their country. another thing is that government can not just take tax payers money to develop unemployed without developing and giving the working class a conducive environment. We(Southern) are working,the northern eating,all in the name of population.Monkey dey work.........
Change won't come until we stop counting in estimates,but in accuracy. The Igbos are not proud of their population but of their achievements in life,with or without any help from government. 1million illiterates put together is = 1 learned son of the soil. 2million poors is = 1 Nnewi business man. That how i check it.lol
#GEJ MY HERO
#BARCANISTA MY ROLE MODEL
#IMOBOY

obi4eze:
Denounced posts my foot.

He is the biggest bigot on this forum. When did he become our mouthpiece ? He should just shut up and stop opening useless threads.

Unfortunately you can't make him shut up or stop opening threads, it is his right.
Stop taking this personal.

Igbos can cry me a river but ko kan Aye.

Take a look at Nigeria map and tell me how greedy these mofos are

How could you demand for the same representatives with the North or West considering the obvious truth map if you dispute the population..

Just look at Igbo states in that map for crying out loud

For you to know how cunny they are, they started forcing SS on SE so as to look more populated.....

Don't tell me that size has nothing to do with population; it does in a way.