sorry it is kinda out of scope for you.
Because you reason 'religion and cultural' wise, your views are streamlined into not making sense of anything that doesn't play according to your beliefs and upbringing ( well now that's something very natural and common to humans too smiley)

The moment you step out of your world and realize that there are millions of others who haven't been groomed like you, then you will understand why they would reason the way they do.
Now understanding or making sense of what they are saying is not agreement with their POV.
You can strongly disagree with them while still understanding why they have such POVs


That's just the secret.

FrancisTony:

When you say most men it seems like Nairaland family section men dominate the whole Nigeria. But, Nay!

They share the same ideology and I don't expect them to support me.
In the real world plus other Nairaland sections, I'm sure that some men share my view.

During racism time, most White folks were racist and i'm sure some were exception.
Those few would get that rejection stare from their fellow whites but only black folks agree with their view on anti-racism.
Does that mean those few white men that are anti-racism are senile?

The phrase 'most men' was introduced by you, not me - check above for confirmation.
Everything I type to you comes directly from what you type to me, it's called piggybacking so we don't drift.

So when you typed 'most men', you meant only men on family section...okay!

Are you then saying that if you have this argument in the real world with you saying that homosexuality is natural, most men will agree with you?

What about on other sections of NL?
I can remember seeing a topic on front-page you commented in where you got dissed and attacked on every page till the thread died out.
That was a wider audience and still you got attacked - are you seeing my point yet?

I asked earlier, why do you think it's mostly females that agree with you all the time?

5minsmadness:
sweet jesus

I didn't even reply that part because it would distract our argument.
Makes no sense relating racism to homosexuality, but that's by the way...

cococandy:


sorry it is kinda out of scope for you.
Because you reason 'religion and cultural' wise, your views are streamlined into not making sense of anything that doesn't play according to your beliefs and upbringing ( well now that's something very natural and common to humans too )

The moment you step out of your world and realize that there are millions of others who haven't been groomed like you, then you will understand why they would reason the way they do.
Now understanding or making sense of what they are saying is not agreement with their POV.
You can strongly disagree with them while still understanding why they have such POVs


That's just the secret.

And he liked this post

ococandy you are beginning to sound like a lawyer. stop sitting on the fence.
For the record, I understood what he said(though to be fair, I couldnt make any sense out of it).
Now are you saying you understood what he said but don't agree with it?

crackhaus:

The phrase 'most men' was introduced by you, not me - check above for confirmation.
Everything I type to you comes directly from what you type to me, it's called piggybacking so we don't drift.

So when you typed 'most men', you meant only men on family section...okay!

Are you then saying that if you have this argument in the real world with you saying that homosexuality is natural, most men will agree with you?

What about on other sections of NL?
I can remember seeing a topic on front-page you commented in where you got dissed and attacked on every page till the thread dies out.
That was a wider audience and still you got attacked - are you seeing my point yet?

I asked earlier, why do you think it's mostly females that agree with you all the time?

I can remember only a homosexual thread that I was bashed.

Guess what? My bashers were both male and female.

My supporters were both male and female.
Meanwhile, I thought you were referencing on my support towards females(feminist).
I know that Nigerians/Africans are highly homophobic--I can't take that out from them.
Well, never knew it was homosexualism - on family section, only females are pro-gay.
On other sections, there are male and female pro-gays same as male and female homophobes.

crackhaus:

I didn't even reply that part because it would distract our argument.

Makes no sense relating racism to homosexuality, but that's by the way...

As in!
Av read that post like three times now and it always gives me the giggles

Little bro be like : "Me against the world"

FrancisTony:

I can remember only one homosexual thread that I was bashed.

Guess what? My bashers were both male and female.

My supporters were both male and female.
Meanwhile, I thought you were referencing on my support towards females(feminist).
I know that Nigerians/Africans are highly homophobic--I can't take that out from them.
Well, never knew it was homosexualism - on family section, only females are pro-gay.
On other sections, there are male and female pro-gays same as male and female homophobes.

I didn't even read this last comment but I liked it.
haters gonna hate.
keep it up bro.

5minsmadness:


And he liked this post

ococandy you are beginning to sound like a lawyer. stop sitting on the fence.
For the record, I understood what he said(though to be fair, I couldnt make any sense out of it).
Now are you saying you understood what he said but don't agree with it?

My point is I told you he makes sense most of the time and you disagreed.
So I just wanted you to know that even though I think he makes sense and his conclusions generally follow from a sound premise in relation to his conclusion, I don't always agree with him 100% of the time.

@bold, how can you understand something if it doesn't make sense to you? You lost me man.
See what I'm saying?

FrancisTony:

I can remember only a homosexual thread that I was bashed.

Guess what? My bashers were both male and female.

My supporters were both male and female.
Meanwhile, I thought you were referencing on my support towards females(feminist).
I know that Nigerians/Africans are highly homophobic--I can't take that out from them.
Well, never knew it was homosexualism - on family section, only females are pro-gay.
On other sections, there are male and female pro-gays same as male and female homophobes.

Let's not get into feminism, there are no true feminists on Nairaland - just clowns and folks interpreting ideologies they know very little about.

I was working from the premise of this thread, so yes we talking about homosexuals.
Again the word you used was most men, meaning there are men that support you...so of course you had some male supporters.

Which leads us back to my question, why do you think it's mostly females that support you all the time?
Please answer it this time.


****
And no, it wasn't a homosexual thread - can't go digging but almost every time a thread hits front page with one of your comments in it, you get bashed and attacked... but this is by the way

cococandy:

My point is I told you he makes sense most of the time and you disagreed.
So I just wanted you to know that even though I think he makes sense and his conclusions generally follow from a sound premise in relation to his conclusion, I don't always agree with him 100% of the time.

@bold, how can you understand something if it doesn't make sense to you? You lost me man.
See what I'm saying?

"Iam disinclined to acquiece to your request"

In other words you don't agree with him.
Neither do I.

A person can be perfectly understood without making any sense whatsoever.

its called being incomprehensible.

For instance: I can say the colour of your eyes is probably the reason you think the way you do.

I'm sure you understand the above statement
Even though it makes no sense!

crackhaus:

Let's not get into feminism, there are no true feminists on Nairaland - just clowns and folks interpreting ideologies they know very little about.

I was working from the premise of this thread, so yes we talking about homosexuals.
Again the word you used was most men, meaning there are men that support you...so of course you had some male supporters.

Which leads us back to my question, why do you think it's mostly females that support you all the time?
Please answer it this time.

On Gay related issue? Women are not the one supporting me except when i'm arguing on Family section.

By the way, Chillisauce is the only female that supported me here.
You can't say which gender liked my post.

Chillisauce:


I didn't even read this last comment but I liked it.
haters gonna hate.
keep it up bro.

Don't you have family to be with instead of being here fanning flames...

Not hating on the guy, just helping him understand himself... Lol.

Chillisauce:


I didn't even read this last comment but I liked it.
haters gonna hate.
keep it up bro.

I liked this post too
for no reason whatsoever

crackhaus:

****
And no, it wasn't a homosexual thread - can't go digging but almost every time a thread hits front page with one of your comments in it, you get bashed and attacked... but this is by the way

Now, i'm curious.
What is/was the thread all about?

I can't remember getting bashed.

FrancisTony:

On Gay related issue? Women are not the one supporting me except when i'm arguing on Family section.

By the way, Chilli sauce is the only female that supported me here.
You can't say which gender liked my post.

Bro let's not get into who liked what, people will like posts whether it makes sense or not as long as it's an argument against someone they don't fancy... but this is by the way.

Generally on NL, who do you get your support from the most.. males or females?



****
I'm starting to get bored by the way, just wanted to understand how you really think... Sorry for the interrogative-styled questions.

FrancisTony:
Now, i'm curious. What is/was the thread all about?
I can't remember getting bashed.

Never mind Bro.

5minsmadness:

As in! Av read that post like three times now and it always gives me the giggles
Little bro be like : "Me against the world"

And the world is always in the wrong...

crackhaus:

Bro let's not get into who liked what, people will like posts whether it makes sense or not as long as it's an argument against someone they don't fancy... but this is by the way.

Generally on NL, who do you get your support from the most.. males or females?



****
I'm starting to get bored by the way, just wanted to understand how you really think... Sorry for the interrogative-styled questions.

When I argue on Religion section, I get support from those it favours.
When I argue on family and education section, I get a support from those it favours.

Infact, when I joined Nairaland newly, I was a religion fanatic(not any longer) and I spend 24/7 on that section.
The first female Familylander I knew was Alutacontinua from Education section.

I've had a heated vile argument with Kay..17 - she's an atheist and a feminist. Just knew newly that she's a female.
I have had an argument filled insults with Shirley07 on Protestant Vs Catholic.

So, forget.

crackhaus:

I think what you meant to type was attraction doesn't ALWAYS lead to sex.

Can attraction lead to sex? Yes.
Do gay men have sex? Yes.
How did they get there? They were attracted to each other. QED

And I like I asked Francis earlier, one question among the others he conveniently failed to answer BTW - what is a man supposed to naturally find attractive in another man enough for him to want to have a romantic/sexual relationship with him?

Ok. I don't argue homosexual.
It's just like taking panadol on someone else headache - a poor straight man is definitely not better than rich straight and fufilled guy.
Sexuality doesn't define anybody and if he/she don't open up, you won't probablyknow.
Normal or abnormal is none of my business provided they are not complaining.
No need to cry more than the bereaved.

BTW, I was only pointing out his irregularity about attraction.

cococandy:


sorry it is kinda out of scope for you.
Because you reason 'religion and cultural' wise, your views are streamlined into not making sense of anything that doesn't play according to your beliefs and upbringing ( well now that's something very natural and common to humans too )

The moment you step out of your world and realize that there are millions of others who haven't been groomed like you, then you will understand why they would reason the way they do.
Now understanding or making sense of what they are saying is not agreement with their POV.
You can strongly disagree with them while still understanding why they have such POVs


That's just the secret.

what does this even mean?

FrancisTony:

I can remember only a homosexual thread that I was bashed.

Guess what? My bashers were both male and female.

My supporters were both male and female.
Meanwhile, I thought you were referencing on my support towards females(feminist).
I know that Nigerians/Africans are highly homophobic--I can't take that out from them.
Well, never knew it was homosexualism - on family section, only females are pro-gay.
On other sections, there are male and female pro-gays same as male and female homophobes.

we dont have a problem with you being pro gay or even gay, as the case may be

but making useless and preposterous remarks like " sex was a human invention", dats a no no

FrancisTony:

On Gay related issue? Women are not the one supporting me except when i'm arguing on Family section.

By the way, Chillisauce is the only female that supported me here.
You can't say which gender liked my post.

i can mention those that liked ur post aswear

FrancisTony:

When I argue on Religion section, I get support from those it favours.
When I argue on family and education section, I get a support from those it favours.

Infact, when I joined Nairaland newly, I was a religion fanatic(not any longer) and I spend 24/7 on that section.
The first female Familylander I knew was Alutacontinua from Education section.

I've had a heated vile argument with Kay..17 - she's an atheist and a feminist. Just knew newly that she's a female.
I have had an argument filled insults with Shirley07 on Protestant Vs Catholic.

So, forget.

lmao

Logicalmind1:

Ok. I don't argue homosexual.
It's just like taking panadol on someone else headache - a poor straight man is definitely not better than rich straight and fufilled guy.
Sexuality doesn't define anybody and if he/she don't open up, you won't probablyknow.
Normal or abnormal is none of my business provided they are not complaining.
No need to cry more than the bereaved.

BTW, I was only pointing out his irregularity about attraction.

you ought to have read it in context first and not just pick a line out of an entire statement......

FrancisTony:

When I argue on Religion section, I get support from those it favours.
When I argue on family and education section, I get a support from those it favours.

Infact, when I joined Nairaland newly, I was a religion fanatic(not any longer) and I spend 24/7 on that section.
The first female Familylander I knew was Alutacontinua from Education section.

I've had a heated vile argument with Kay..17 - she's an atheist and a feminist. Just knew newly that she's a female.
I have had an argument filled insults with Shirley07 on Protestant Vs Catholic.

So, forget.

Shuo, when did that happen?

macof:

I assume you are a lesbian. Am I correct?

If your assumptions directed you there, I must advise you to grow up.

Uttering such foolishness should lead me to assume you are immensely stuwpid, would I be correct?

cococandy:
lol. Who's consent do you need for a relationship besides those in it? How can you say it is not mutual when the relationship is not forced on any of the partners? If one gay partner didn't want to be gay and the other is forcing it in them, then you can say it is not mutual.

For polygamy, many of the women aren't in support but they are told to suck it up or leave and in some cases religion is used to justify it. How is it mutual? Pickabeau chai.
If the wife would rather have her husband to herself but the man insists on marrying another wife, does it define mutual consent between the man and the woman?

There's no basis for comparison between polygamy and homosexual marriage.
They are different things that don't belong in the same broad group.

I hear

Shirley07:
Shuo, when did that happen?

Religion section. The thread wiped away during Nairaland data loss.

njokusboy:



we dont have a problem with you being pro gay or even gay, as the case may be

but making useless and preposterous remarks like " sex was a human invention", dats a no no

Do you know what I meant by, "Sex is a human invention?"

Well, y'all need brain transplant to function your brains properly.
Attraction can't be controlled but having sex can be controlled.

That's why cheating is never a mistake.
You get attraction involuntary and have sex voluntary.

I repeat once again, "Sex is a human invention"

For example, someone annoys you, we are all human and it's a must you get angry.
You can choose to control it or slap the person.

Slap is a human invention.

FrancisTony:

Do you know what I meant by, "Sex is a human invention?"

Well, y'all need brain transplant to function your brains properly.
Attraction can't be controlled but having sex can be controlled.

That's why cheating is never a mistake.
You get attraction involuntary and have sex voluntary.

I repeat once again, "Sex is a human invention"

Lmao, I think you need a brain transplant more..
So anything that can be controlled automatically becomes a human invention....
That includes sleep and eating right?
Keep trying to make sense, you may succeed eventually