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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Ebubest(m): 1:39pm On May 03, 2015
zeusdgrt:
oga she is ryt,if U nor know jst try quiet before U judge
dont say wat u dont knw my guy fir a respectable church lyk A. G. dey cant pay their pastor as low as dat, una dey find wetin una go take judge odas, so keep quiet and hold ur peace
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Strongfaze(m): 1:39pm On May 03, 2015
Madam please exercise a little patience
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by mekky2012(m): 1:47pm On May 03, 2015
Dont be quick to judge. There is a likely truth in this write up. I had same experience when my dad died in 2005. He served in the same church for 22yrs as a pastor and died in active service. We suffered untold hardship. I regretted why my dad was a clergyman. After calculating his contributions and gratuity, we arrived at almost 1m, but the church gave us a cheque of 83k. All efforts to get response failed. Even the little stipend they pay my mum as a widow was stopped. Thank God its all history now. OP, explore more options b4 going to court. Reach me on this line for advice. 08160220029

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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Senjuchiha: 2:07pm On May 03, 2015
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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Nobody: 2:10pm On May 03, 2015
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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by zeusdgrt(m): 2:24pm On May 03, 2015
Ebubest:
dont say wat u dont knw my guy fir a respectable church lyk A. G. dey cant pay their pastor as low as dat, una dey find wetin una go take judge odas, so keep quiet and hold ur peace
my father is a reverend in AG delta state.So pls can U shut up now
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Nobody: 2:30pm On May 03, 2015
ASSEMBLIES OF GOD church deceiving people since I was born.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by EbuGeneral(m): 2:30pm On May 03, 2015
this is why christ said, leave everything and follow me. if the pastors had left everything, there will be no rift in the church. but how is that my business, am no more a christian. proudly traditionalist
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by prophetfire: 2:55pm On May 03, 2015
ARKdiscloser7:
I see you as a paid agent of Paul Emeka.

He lost the court of Appeal case just few weeks ago and has filed another appeal at the Supreme Court.

Please bow your head in shame for brining out such write up here and may God Almighty.
mr.man are u justifying the way ur church treat their pastors widows?its pathetic n an abomination before God sincerely speaking.

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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Ebubest(m): 3:02pm On May 03, 2015
zeusdgrt:
my father is a reverend in AG delta state.So pls can U shut up now
oluku c mumu, so make i believe u, taa see make i tell u na una dey use una hand dey fall una so called Rev pikin go play 4 shit.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by dsquare33: 3:20pm On May 03, 2015
Its a shame a real shame when the body of christ is in dissension over money and title.We quickly forget that it is God's church and for everything christian leaders do to bring shame to the glorious name of Jesus Christ they will give account and they will bear the greater judgment James 3vs 1. It is not only the Assemblies of church God but all other denominations whose leaders have turn their bellies to god whose end will be their destruction except they repent. A lot God's children are suffering especially the missionaries who do the greater part of the mission work yet the church which is rich enough has neglected them. God is watching and will repay each one according to his deed.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Nafikowa: 3:35pm On May 03, 2015
Firefire:
Misunderstandings among the church leadership and the recent factions among the fold is responsible for the delayed payment.

I trust the leadership of the body of Christ (Assemblies of God) under Rev Chidi Okoroafor.

Kindly direct your grievances to the appropriate authority, you shall surely get adequate resolution.

Shalom & Maranatha!

Are you a member?
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by ldpele(m): 3:38pm On May 03, 2015
zeusdgrt:
my father is a reverend in AG delta state.So pls can U shut up now
then he didn't teach u to be mannered or your acting like a loosed mad dog? Pls be civil
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by zeusdgrt(m): 3:41pm On May 03, 2015
Ebubest:
oluku c mumu, so make i believe u, taa see make i tell u na una dey use una hand dey fall una so called Rev pikin go play 4 shit.
kids D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ neva grow,well i blame mtn for free mb.A destined fool lyk U shuld be left alone to be advised by ur children in future wen U grow up.find dirty go perch
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by DrBulalaa(m): 3:46pm On May 03, 2015
It's a pity that Paul Emeka and Chidi Okoroafor have continued to drag the name of this great church into the Mud. Is this the AG Rev. Oyakhilomen and Rev. Ezeigbo fought hard to build. Op I think the issue you currently face is boils down to the current fracas facing the church and to be sincere with you, it looks like this will be a case of running around circles.

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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by zeusdgrt(m): 3:46pm On May 03, 2015
ldpele:
then he didn't teach u to be mannered or your acting like a loosed mad dog? Pls be civil
if U don't know abt wt transpired or U dint read d post pls i suggest U find sometyn tangible to contribute rather than insult ur personality cz ur wrds jst give us a reason to believe U r nt relevant
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by DrBulalaa(m): 3:51pm On May 03, 2015
Ebubest:
dont say wat u dont knw my guy fir a respectable church lyk A. G. dey cant pay their pastor as low as dat, una dey find wetin una go take judge odas, so keep quiet and hold ur peace
AG really doesn't have a fixed salary structure for their pastors, you are paid according to the amount you can generate from your church. So if you pastor a church of 50people that pay N50 offering, don't expect a salary of more than N6k for that month. Funny but true.

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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Ebubest(m): 3:52pm On May 03, 2015
zeusdgrt:
kids D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ neva grow,well i blame mtn for free mb.A destined fool lyk U shuld be left alone to be advised by ur children in future wen U grow up.find dirty go perch
c idiot 4 ur mind dey leak ur secret, after u tink evry1 is lyk u, guy continue am a destined fool no problem bt u are already a fool, perching in evry dirty in ur neighborhood, 4 ur u don talk, cari on na so madness take dey start, leta u go start dey claim territory 4 wer dirty dey. I LEAVE BULLSHITS FOR THE BIRDS sucker.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by stagger: 4:00pm On May 03, 2015
Ebubest:
lies all lies, there is no way her husband salary would b #6000naira, if she till persist dat it is, somebody pls ask her how much is Nigeria minimum wage, for nw i rest my case.

AG was my first church in this world. The way they celebrate poverty and yet tax their members with appeals for offering was one reason I left for good. Vitalis Nwachukwu who was virtually a self-made millonaire while an AG pastor was demonized and subjected to public ridicule. Thank God for bishop Oyedepo who came with God's word that challenged this poverty mentality churches like AG have carried for years.

It is common knowledge that pastors in AG are so badly paid that members virtually have to cater for eve the most basic of needs. Outsiders like this fellow here know nothing of this.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by luckydube007: 4:00pm On May 03, 2015
ARKdiscloser7:
I see you as a paid agent of Paul Emeka.

He lost the court of Appeal case just few weeks ago and has filed another appeal at the Supreme Court.

Please bow your head in shame for brining out such write up here and may God Almighty.


He is not a paid agent. I understand him Cox have see what day do to mirror pastor. And for the record am also a born AG. so mind what U say
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by zeusdgrt(m): 4:03pm On May 03, 2015
Ebubest:
c idiot 4 ur mind dey leak ur secret, after u tink evry1 is lyk u, guy continue am a destined fool no problem bt u are already a fool, perching in evry dirty in ur neighborhood, 4 ur u don talk, cari on na so madness take dey start, leta u go start dey claim territory 4 wer dirty dey. I LEAVE BULLSHITS FOR THE BIRDS sucker.
edu d igbo boi wan claim wafferian,see ur pidgin lingua nor legite to read,guy go blow whistle U nor reach couple cz hope or hopeless U nor gt.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Ebubest(m): 4:28pm On May 03, 2015
zeusdgrt:
edu d igbo boi wan claim wafferian,see ur pidgin lingua nor legite to read,guy go blow whistle U nor reach couple cz hope or hopeless U nor gt.
u don talk gibberish 4 u mind, shitfaced a**hole, bootlicker, prof 4 pidgin, clap 4 ursef porcupine.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by ARKdiscloser7(m): 4:35pm On May 03, 2015
ifeegee:


Pls be object for once. I am a born Assemblies and I know all the drama going around the two factions.
I've seen too many of their pastors feed from hand to mouth,live in squalors, give their children the poorest of education.
While their elite pastors live like kings. When these poor pastors complain,they ask them to go and prove their ministry.
I am commenting from a neutral position,before you call me Paul Emeka's paid agent.

And you feel Nairaland is the best place to agitate for such issue?
This is a serious issue and the poster knows the best place to seek for justice other than social media.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by ARKdiscloser7(m): 4:47pm On May 03, 2015
You can keep on calling me names but that's for you all to deal with. My point still remains why must she come out here to tell us all this? She has decided to go to court then what the essence of coming out here to embarrass the church.

The church is passing tru a difficult time and all we need to do is pray for the church and not negative publicity.

Both factions has really dealt a huge blow on the image of the Church but while I singled out Paul Emeka is because of their poor attitude of running all through the social media to whip up sentiment.

Thank God the matter is in Supreme Court which I believe is the last bus stop. Which ever faction that wins the case has the responsibility of making sure peace rains in the church.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by ifeegee(f): 4:48pm On May 03, 2015
ARKdiscloser7:


And you feel Nairaland is the best place to agitate for such issue?
This is a serious issue and the poster knows the best place to seek for justice other than social media.

I beg make we hear word, so he should have gone to a secret cult room to agitate? More so , where would have been the best place to seek redress, is it to the camp of Chidi abi prof? Tell me the structures AG has now that can handle his situation? Pls, let's stop politics in church and call a spade a spade abeg!!

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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by ARKdiscloser7(m): 4:54pm On May 03, 2015
ifeegee:


I beg make we hear word, so he should have gone to a secret cult room to agitate? More so , where would have been the best place to seek redress, is it to the camp of Chidi abi prof? Tell me the structures AG has now that can handle his situation? Pls, let's stop politics in church and call a spade a spade abeg!!

You are beginning to sound like the Emeka's faction.
Harsh, violent and brutal.
I hope not to join issues with you.
May God give me the grace.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by Don4eva(m): 5:01pm On May 03, 2015
ARKdiscloser7:
I see you as a paid agent of Paul Emeka.

He lost the court of Appeal case just few weeks ago and has filed another appeal at the Supreme Court.

Please bow your head in shame for brining out such write up here and may God Almighty.
If you are not the devil, then you must be his close relative. We are talking about paying widows their benefits and you open your gutter to embarrass your ignorance.

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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by InHim4Him(m): 5:16pm On May 03, 2015
texazzpete:


Why don't you first Deny or affirm that you don't know there is no decent structure to pay the widows of pastors.
A widow is struggling and you satanic maggots are talking factional politics.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by InHim4Him(m): 5:22pm On May 03, 2015
texazzpete:


Why don't you first Deny or affirm that you don't know there is no decent structure to pay the widows of pastors.
A widow is struggling and you satanic maggots are talking factional politics.

Did I read you right? You called your brother " satanic maggots "? That, you should know, reveals much.

Who exactly are "minor pastors ' widows "?

I wonder why men are not afraid to walk where angels dread to tread.
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by ARKdiscloser7(m): 5:32pm On May 03, 2015
Why calling me names?
Why did the poster mentioned that he sought to see Rev. Chidi Okoroafor?
Pls answer me?

Is Chidi Okoroafor the AG GS?
I taught the AG GS is Rev. Paul Emeka, why didn't the poster meet him?

Why Rev. Chidi?
Why not Rev. Emeka?

Its easy to whip up sentiment because the poster mentioned the sacred word "widow" but hid politics in between the word.

You can keep calling me names but I won't insult anybody.

I repeat my question : ilwhy did the poster demand to meet Rev Chidi instead of Rev Emeka?

Why didn't the poster take his complain to the headquarters of AG? Is Okpoto the headquarters?
Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by texazzpete(m): 5:56pm On May 03, 2015
InHim4Him:


Did I read you right? You called your brother " satanic maggots "? That, you should know, reveals much.

Who exactly are "minor pastors ' widows "?

I wonder why men are not afraid to walk where angels dread to tread.

my 'brother'? That man who has no compassion for the suffering?

Please take yourself and your stunted IQ out of my mentions. You folks bring shame to true Christians.

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Re: Pastor's Widow's To Sue Assemblies Of God General Council by nsiazu: 6:16pm On May 03, 2015
Dyoungstar:
Compiled by:
Isaiah Amadi.


ASSEMBLIES OF GOD NIGERIA PASTORS WIDOW’S TO SUE THE GENERAL COUNCIL OVER REFUSAL TO PAY GRATUITY.


The Assemblies of God church Nigeria has denied we the minor pastor’s widow’s our right to our husband’s gratuity; I am writing this article because I am affected by their decision to deny us our gratuity: Rev Mrs Gladness.

I am angry with the turnout of events with the church; I lost my husband last year and since then till this moment all efforts to secure my husband’s gratuity have been hitting rocks. I have six children I cater for and they are still schooling, the general council did not make any provision for the welfare of their pastors widows/children like other churches do yet when we make demands for what our husbands were able to save from the little stipends they were paid, instead of listening to us and give us our rights they abuse us and humiliate us.

We were asked to come to Okpoto to collect forms to fill since the district superintendent belong to a faction, we travelled from the north to Okpoto to get this forms and we went to the presbyters to sign them and we returned them to Okpoto using the little cash we were supposed to use for feeding to run around and after all the stressful movements here and there all they do is promises upon promises. I went back to Evangel camp Okpoto to know what the next plan is since all the numbers given to me were never reachable, on arriving their the people working in pensions office ridiculed and made mockery of me and told me they will call me whenever they are ready for me that I should stop disturbing them over my own right.

I made every effort to see Rev Chidi Okoroafor but his personal assistant rebuffed me, I was later directed to the general treasurer whose P.A didn’t give me a listening ear. I got to the general secretary’s office where the staff there told me that there is no hope of me getting my husband’s gratuity in the nearest future on the claims that none of the officials ever come to office, that they were around that week because they had meeting and wedding of the GS daughter.

This issue affects only the widows from the minority group (small churches) as I was told by an official in the Evangel camp temporal secretariat. I can’t waste my time pleading with anyone on this issue anymore. I have contacted my brother who is a barrister on this matter and anytime from now we will be heading to the tribunal since that’s what they want we will go that way.




Speaking with the widow’s son he said:
I was born and bred in Assemblies of God church of Nigeria, from Umuahia district where my father started his pastoral call after graduating from AGDSN Umuahia and was later transferred to northern Nigeria on inter-state transfer.

He was one of the minor pastors who served as missionary pastors and suffered grossly for the calling, we the children suffered the consequences of his decision to be a pastor; I wouldn’t want to mention the hard times and setbacks we encountered in every sphere of life.

My father was paid six thousand naira to cater for his family of six children, himself and our mother. From this six thousand naira the district claims some ration as tithe and other deductions too that they claim to be burial funds and the rest of them thereby leaving my father with nothing at the end of the day. These cases apply to all other minor pastors too who found themselves in the same situation.

The issue is not that my father was underpaid, I have no business with that but the fact that they which claimed to be holy and spiritual leaders lie to us every day while they loot the church money amongst themselves, I won’t mention names but any reasonable member of the church knows that the crisis that erupted was as a result of the discovery of mismanaged funds and looting the suspended general superintendent Paul Emeka discovered in the system that made them call for his immediate termination and removal; like I said before, its none of my business what they do with the church money, my concern is the powers that be refusing to pay the families of the pastors that lost their lives in service which my family was among. We don’t get pension in cases of death and the church has no support plans for their deceased pastor’s family yet the little our fathers contribute to their account they refuse to pay us claiming there is no money. Some families had applied for their gratuity since 2013 and 2014 till date nothing has been done about it, the powers that be paid deaf ears.

No one should misunderstand me, I do not belong or support any faction; in fact I left the church long time ago. My reason for voicing out is that they have denied us our right, our father’s gratuity and tend to abuse us and make jest of us whenever we go to Okpoto to make demands for this entitlement. Traveling from Lagos, Port Harcourt to Ebonyi state is not cheap and the risk of plying the road put together they never one day considered.

We have made up my mind to sue the general council if they refuse to pay us our money within a given period of time best known to us, we might join forces with other affected families for this fight; as I write we have made all necessary arrangements to head to the tribunal because enough has got to be enough. I have made all efforts to reach the powers that be but they all proved futile, I know they read all my mails and messages to them both on facebook, phone and emails, they also get my messages from their relatives, friends and P.A’s and none of them will blame me for taking any actions negative or positive to get what belongs to me.




http://wikisozo.com/story/read/29144/assemblies-of-God-nigeria-pastors-widows-to-sue-the-general-council-over-refusal-to-pay-gratuity#.VUVHTqMo_Fo



https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=812452362179847&id=1556095891269709

CC: Lalasticlala, Seun.

Please help and move this to front-page.

I was born and brought up in AG and I know GOD never sleeps nor slumber. If this your story is true, God will help u but if its not, God will make u and ur family to suffer for the rest of ur life. Assemblies of God wasn't formed by anyone but the HolySpirit so anyone speaking against the Church should be ready for the wrath of GOD.

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