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Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by truthman2012(m): 5:31pm On May 08, 2015
What is the meaning of this verse in the quran?

Quran 2:1
Alif. Lam. Mim.
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 6:38pm On May 08, 2015
truthman2012:
What is the meaning of this verse in the quran?

Quran 2:1
Alif. Lam. Mim.

ask mr google

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by truthman2012(m): 8:37pm On May 08, 2015
POPdecorator:
ask mr google

I have searched google, none of your islamic scholars could explain the meaning.

When allah says the quran is a clear arabic speech and we discover it is not completely arabic, it shows he was not saying the truth.

[Quran 16:103 YusufAli] We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.

Quran 16:103 Pickhal] And We know well that they say: Only a man teacheth him. The speech of him at whom they falsely hint is outlandish, and this is clear Arabic speech.

But we know, quran is not purely arabic speech as it contains foreign and unknown languages. People at that time accussed Muhammad of such, which allahh denied.

If it is a clear arabic as claimed by allahh, how come some interpretations are hidden and only he knows them?

Quran 3:7 YusuAli] He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its HIDDEN MEANINGS, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.

One of the hidden meanings known to allahh only is the verse 2:1 above.

What is the reason behind allah hidding some quranic meanings other than DECEPTION? May God deliver the muslims from islamic deception.

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by eshbeewanna: 11:08pm On May 08, 2015
truthman2012:
What is the meaning of this verse in the quran?

Quran 2:1
Alif. Lam. Mim.

"Over it is 19. And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book (Jews ans Christians) may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind.

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by Nobody: 1:33am On May 09, 2015
There is great dispute over the meaning of the letters and in the end, as with these things, it is a matter of faith.

The explanation I find most satisfactory is the one hinted at by the poster above.

It is thought by some that there is a mathematical code built in and encrypted into the Qur'an as a sign of its divine origin and a security of its content. This code is based on the number nineteen and on its most basic level works to the effect that for the verse you have questioned, it is saying that those letters alif lam and mim will occur in that chapter a multiple of nineteen times.

You may look up Qur'an Code on Wikipedia.
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 8:36am On May 09, 2015
truthman2012:


I have searched google, none of your islamic scholars could explain the meaning.

When allah says the quran is a clear arabic speech and we discover it is not completely arabic, it shows he was not saying the truth.

[Quran 16:103 YusufAli] We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.

Quran 16:103 Pickhal] And We know well that they say: Only a man teacheth him. The speech of him at whom they falsely hint is outlandish, and this is clear Arabic speech.

But we know, quran is not purely arabic speech as it contains foreign and unknown languages. People at that time accussed Muhammad of such, which allahh denied.

If it is a clear arabic as claimed by allahh, how come some interpretations are hidden and only he knows them?

Quran 3:7 YusuAli] He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its HIDDEN MEANINGS, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.

One of the hidden meanings known to allahh only is the verse 2:1 above.

What is the reason behind allah hidding some quranic meanings other than DECEPTION? May God deliver the muslims from islamic deception.

some scholar says alif and lam means ALLAH and mim means muhammed(SAW)
but Allah knows best
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by malvisguy212: 9:22am On May 09, 2015
POPdecorator:
some scholar says alif and lam means ALLAH and mim means muhammed(SAW)
but Allah knows best
muhammed and Allah are one?
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by truthman2012(m): 9:49am On May 09, 2015
eshbeewanna:

"Over it is 19. And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book (Jews ans Christians) may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind.

What has this got to do with the meaning of ''Alif. Lam. Mim''?

You just decided to say anything in defence.

Is the quran pure arabic as allahh said? Now that it is discovered it is not so, it means he lied. Simple.
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by truthman2012(m): 9:54am On May 09, 2015
POPdecorator:
some scholar says alif and lam means ALLAH and mim means muhammed(SAW)
but Allah knows best

I have searched for the meaning, nobody is certain about it. It shows the words are not arabic contrary to allahh's claim.
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by ZKOSOSO(m): 10:17am On May 09, 2015
truthman2012:


I have searched for the meaning, nobody is certain about it. It shows the words are not arabic contrary to allahh's claim.

WELL...........since nobody knows the actual meaning of the word...... and nature abhors vacuum..... grin leme help out....
It means MohamMAD and his Allaah are birds of same feather called MURDERERS, LIARS and ChildAssKnackers!!

No Vex grin. Na so ma mind de provok for profMoh dis days cos of wetin him create for humanity.

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 10:35am On May 09, 2015
malvisguy212:
muhammed and Allah are one?
no
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 10:39am On May 09, 2015
truthman2012:


I have searched for the meaning, nobody is certain about it. It shows the words are not arabic contrary to allahh's claim.
do u think shey na every scholars have site or upload their books on website?
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 10:42am On May 09, 2015
ZKOSOSO:


WELL...........since nobody knows the actual meaning of the word...... and nature abhors vacuum..... grin leme help out....
It means MohamMAD and his Allaah are birds of same feather called MURDERERS, LIARS and ChildAssKnackers!!

No Vex grin. Na so ma mind de provok for profMoh dis days cos of wetin him create for humanity.
u are nothing but hell fire fuel unless u are a muslim
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by Anas09: 10:58am On May 09, 2015
So if he is a muslim, he escapes hell automatically? These people are so delusional.

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by truthman2012(m): 11:04am On May 09, 2015
POPdecorator:
u are nothing but hell fire fuel unless u are a muslim

It is the muslims that allahh promised hell fire. Jesus told us he has gone to prepare a place for us in heaven.

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by true2god: 6:21am On May 10, 2015
malvisguy212:
muhammed and Allah are one?
Yes, mohammed and allahh is the same person. There is a perfect understanding between allahh and mohammed such that, even if mohammed wants to determine his share of war booty (20% belongs to allahh and his apostle, allahh and his apostle 'mohammed'), when he wanted to marry his adopted son's wife (zainab), when he wanted to date aisha (his 6yr old fiancee) etc, he only needed to cement it by involving allahh in all his transactions and all is done.

So there is basically no difference between allahh and mohammed.

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by clemz88(m): 8:17am On May 10, 2015
POPdecorator:
u are nothing but hell fire fuel unless u are a muslim
does muslims have their own hell fire ne
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by clemz88(m): 8:19am On May 10, 2015
truthman2012:


It is the muslims that allahh promised hell fire. Jesus told us he has gone to prepare a place for us in heaven.
guy bera leave this guys alone o. Before allah will wire you slap from where ever he is.
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 8:32am On May 10, 2015
Anas09:
So if he is a muslim, he escapes hell automatically? These people are so delusional.
no mumin(true believers) go taste hell fire but muslims with bad evil action may go to hell but not forever,but unbelievers them go roast in hell

change to muslim and be saved
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 8:35am On May 10, 2015
clemz88:
does muslims have their own hell fire ne
they were 7 kind of hell fire but ur buybull cann't explain them
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by true2god: 8:44am On May 10, 2015
POPdecorator:
some scholar says alif and lam means ALLAH and mim means muhammed(SAW)
but Allah knows best
That still means that the 'scholars', and you, are not sure of the meaning, it is a mere speculation. allahh said his words are clear to understand, why then do we need a decoder to decode the meaning of some words of allahh?
The standard islamic excuse 'allahh knows best' is a deceptive statement to cover-up for allahh's inefficiencies.

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by clemz88(m): 12:01pm On May 10, 2015
POPdecorator:
they were 7 kind of hell fire but ur buybull cann't explain them
u must be an hypocrite for calling the bible buybull. shaking my head for you. Your religion is so full of hate .

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 12:57pm On May 10, 2015
true2god:
That still means that the 'scholars', and you, are not sure of the meaning, it is a mere speculation. allahh said his words are clear to understand, why then do we need a decoder to decode the meaning of some words of allahh?
The standard islamic excuse 'allahh knows best' is a deceptive statement to cover-up for allahh's inefficiencies.
u can only c d oder side of quran do i can blame u
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 1:00pm On May 10, 2015
clemz88:
u must be an hypocrite for calling the bible buybull. shaking my head for you. Your religion is so full of hate .
u 1 crying bcs of buybull
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by clemz88(m): 1:03pm On May 10, 2015
POPdecorator:
u 1 crying bcs of buybull
get thee behind me

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Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by Dmeji4444(m): 1:10pm On May 10, 2015
truthman2012:
What is the meaning of this verse in the quran?

Quran 2:1
Alif. Lam. Mim.


They are Arabic letters
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by Dmeji4444(m): 1:11pm On May 10, 2015
truthman2012:
What is the meaning of this verse in the quran?

Quran 2:1
Alif. Lam. Mim.



They are Arabic letters
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by truthman2012(m): 1:54pm On May 10, 2015
Dmeji4444:



They are Arabic letters

Meaning what?
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by POPdecorator: 2:28pm On May 10, 2015
clemz88:
get thee behind me
guy grow up
Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by clemz88(m): 5:13pm On May 10, 2015
POPdecorator:
guy grow up
I curse you not to grow . Keep drinking milk

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