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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by Rilwayne001: 6:18pm On May 13, 2015

truthman2012:
Your question should have been: Was Jesus able to convince ALL the Jews with miracles?

Either way. Was jesus able to convince them with his miracle huh

answer the question and stop feigning ignorance.

Those who will go to hell will go to hell.

Including you. Catholics and many other sects said you are going to hell.

Jesus also said he will send you away from him, despite performing miracles with his name.

Muslims are not different from some of the Jews who rejected Jesus.

How?

Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by malvisguy212: 8:20pm On May 13, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Have you ever heard from YAHWEH?

if I say yes your reply will not be different from atheists.

Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by malvisguy212: 8:37pm On May 13, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Either way. Was jesus able to convince them with his miracle answer the question and stop feigning ignorance.

Including you. Catholics and many other sects said you are going to hell.

Jesus also said he will send you away from him, despite performing miracles with his name.

How?

yes, Jesus convinced them with miracle(sign and wonders) but not all believe, why do we have christians Jews? Even the apostles convinced them with miracle and more than 500 thousands unbelievers accepts christ.

If you read the whole chapter of john 7, the argument was that why will Jesus HEALED a boy on the sabbath day.
John 7:40-41
40 On hearing his words, some of the
people said, “Surely this man is the
Prophet.”
41 OTHERS said, “He is the Messiah.”
Still others asked, “How can the Messiah
come from Galilee?

"other" mean some believe he is the messiah because of the miracle and his word.

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by malvisguy212: 8:48pm On May 13, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Including you. Catholics and many other sects said you are going to hell.

lier , the bible did not say so, God promise the believers eternal life through christ Jesus;

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave
His only begotten Son, that whoever
believes in Him shall not perish, but
have ETERNAL LIFE

Unlike the quran who promise you eternal torment.

Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by Rilwayne001: 9:03pm On May 13, 2015

Mtsheew

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by truthman2012(op): 9:21pm On May 13, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Either way. Was jesus able to convince them with his miracle answer the question and stop feigning ignorance.

Including you. Catholics and many other sects said you are going to hell.

Jesus also said he will send you away from him, despite performing miracles with his name.

How?

Yes, many Jews believed in Jesus.

You don't understand the bible. Jesus said he would send fake miracle workers away. Didn't his disciples perform miracles?

It is you muslims allahh promised hell. In fact Muhammad and other muslims are in hell right now. Be ready to join them if you don't repent.

[Quran 3:185 Pickthal] Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned. Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant. The life of this world is but comfort of illussion.

So, Muhammad and other muslims are in hell waiting for the Day of Resurrection to be removed. No wonder people have been seeing him in hell. It is a pity.

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by POPdecorator: 9:29pm On May 13, 2015

truthman2012:
How can I believe in the quran when I know the source?

If you really believe in the quran, you will run away for your dear life.

u don't believe in quran and u are using quran jesus as a proof

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by Empiree: 9:39pm On May 13, 2015

truthman2012:
Yes, many handful Jews believed in Jesus.

@underlined, is false. The belief that Jesus is God, the Son of God, or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish theology. Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the messiah.

How then could you say "many" Jews believed Jesus. That's false

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by truthman2012(op): 10:03pm On May 13, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Same old poo.

How can you be sure he that the person that introduced himself as jesus is truly jesus been the fact that he never recognized jesus?

Or is it that person in those images hanged in churches the biblical jesus?

PoC: He met someone that introduced himself as jesus.

Then, the question is, does he recognize jesus? how does he look like? don't you think satan can impersonate as him?

How is he so sure that he was in heaven? how does the heaven he saw look like? how come most of those who allegedly saw heaven often give contradictory account of what they allegedly saw?

The reason be that, satan is going around deceiving dream both in dream and real life, I have had dream that I saw someone who claimed to be him, I don't go about shouting because i believe it wasn't him. Satan might be playing with ones mind. I have dream that my late grandmother told me that she didn't die that she traveld to ghana and now she's back when actually she's truly dead in real life. Do I then conclude that It was my grandma that I truly saw in my dream.
Xtian are just too deluded.

Then we ask, if Jesus have been truly looking back at his sheep for the past 2000years, then, was he sleeping when his sheeps have scattered to over 40000different sects?

what have jesus done to this if truly he is looking at his sheeps?

All we need is what he brought, which is the quran and the sunnah. You can as well say Moses is not feeling confortable whereever he is because he isn't looking back at his sheep.

Total thrash! Smh!

Let me start from the bottom. Quran is not from the true God. It is from one of the meccan gods, allahh, and it was the idol in Muhammad's family.

Quran2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware.

How do you think the true God would be worshiped like pagan god? Never.

Again, God spoke to Moses and other prophets directly (Quran 4:164), why did a spirit hid himself and spoke to Muhammad behind the veil? Was he not qualified to hear directly from God? The only time he claimed to talk to allah was in a night dream. Just like you said about your grandma, how can you say Muhammad's dream was real?

Besides, he never saw any of the matyred muslims who fought for allahh in heaven. What he claimed he saw were the Jewish prophets, who the lying allahh said they observed corrupted Scripture. If the Scripture they followed was corrupt, how did they make their way to heaven? Allah always tell puerile lies. It is a pity for you who he has been able to deceive.

May God deliver you.

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by Rilwayne001: 10:35pm On May 13, 2015

truthman2012:
Yes, many Jews believed in Jesus.

I think empire addresed this up there, so I don't need to bother myself with this glaring lie of yours. Even, the messiahnic jew who claimed to be christians do not share the views of christians entirely, and they are not even up to 5% of the world jews.

You don't understand the bible.

Do you?

Jesus said he would send fake miracle workers away.

Are their miracle fake? did they performed miracles in his name or not? did they drove out demon in his name or not?

Didn't his disciples perform miracles?

Can you please cite one of them that performed miracle ?

It is you muslims allahh promised hell. [s] In fact Muhammad and other muslims are in hell right now. Be ready to join them if you don't repent. [/s]

You must be very silly to have said the above (no offence). You guys are just too ignorant that I find it hard to believe that even as old as you are, you still reason like a 10yrs boy, Perhaps your hatred for islam has beclouded your sense of reasoning. Smh.

First of all. Nobody has seen hell. Hell will be revealed on the day of judgement for everyone to see.

And on that Day hell will be brought [within sight]; on that Day man will remember [all that he did and failed to do]: but what will that remembrance avail him?

I don't know where you see yourself and other members of your dead family in hell. undecided

DOES THE QURAN SAY MUSLIM WILL FIRST GO INTO HELL BEFORE GOING INTO HEAVEN?

Surely (as for) those for whom the good has already gone forth from Us, they shall be kept far off from it; They will not hear its faintest sound, and they shall abide in that which their souls long for.

Use you brain and tell us what you deduce from the above.

[Quran 3:185 Pickthal] Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned. Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant. The life of this world is but comfort of illussion.

Does the word "remove" necessarily means to bring something out?

Now, please search the meaning of "remove" on google, and please paste all the meaning attributed to it.

[s] So, Muhammad and other muslims are in hell waiting for the Day of Resurrection to be removed. No wonder people have been seeing him in hell. It is a pity. [/s]

And on that Day hell will be brought [within sight]; on that Day man will remember [all that he did and failed to do]: but what will that remembrance avail him?

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by Rilwayne001: 10:52pm On May 13, 2015

truthman2012:
Total thrash! Smh!

And you couldnt refute it by addressing and answering questions in it undecided

Clueless old man.

[s] Let me start from the bottom. Quran is not from the true God. It is from one of the meccan gods, allahh, and it was the idol in Muhammad's family. Quran2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware. [/s]

Don't derail what you quoted. this nonsense up here as been debunked times without number. Don't even think that I will fall for you mundane tactic here.

I believe you know how to quote the way I have been quoting you. Kindly do same in addressing my posts. Stop boycoting my questions undecided

How do you think the true God would be worshiped like pagan god? Never.

Pagans do offer sacrifice to their gods. Isrealites also offered sacrifice to the bible god. So, whats the difference huh

Again, God spoke to Moses and other prophets directly (Quran 4:164), why did a spirit hid himself and spoke to Muhammad behind the veil? Was he not qualified to hear directly from God?

FRom your bible we read: For this is what you asked of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, "Let us NOT hear the voice of the LORD our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die." The LORD said to me: "What they say is good. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.

Figure it out yourself.

The only time he claimed to talk to allah was in a night dream. Just like you said about your grandma, how can you say Muhammad's dream was real?

How can you say John's dream was real when he was allegedly writing the book of "revelation"?

[s]Besides, he never saw any of the matyred muslims who fought for allahh in heaven. What he claimed he saw were the Jewish prophets, who the lying allahh said they observed corrupted Scripture. If the Scripture they followed was corrupt, how did they make their way to heaven? Allah always tell puerile lies. It is a pity for you who he has been able to deceive.

May God deliver you. [/s]

Blah blah blah.

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by Demmzy15(m): 12:48am On May 14, 2015

Masha Allah, brothers. Rilwayne001, Empiree, Abuamam, POP decorator, Udatso, etc for this marvelous disgrace you've given Mr. ~~Truthman2012~~ Lie-lieman grin

. The loser has been refuted once again, disgraced on his own thread! grin

Allahu AKBAR!

Alhamdullahi!

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by Empiree: 6:23am On May 14, 2015*

Bible Messed Up - God rested and refreshed after He created heaven and earth

Exodus 31:17King James Version (KJV)

It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

But according to Qur'an God did not rest after He created heaven and earth

Qur'an 50:38
And indeed We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six Days and nothing of fatigue touched Us.

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Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by shahydbinaliyu(m): 11:28am On May 14, 2015

truthman2012:
Do you know Jesus or the ones they act in movies?

I don't believe in the acted or created or movie Jesus. . nobody knows how real Jesus looks like. . and no where in bible he was physically described. . . was only mocking the actor you all believe to be Jesus

Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by truthman2012(op): 11:43am On May 14, 2015

Rilwayne01

Can you please cite one of them that performed miracle ?

So you didn't read the disciples performing miracles. But you could read to criticize. Read the Book of Acts, you will see the disciples do what Muhammad could not do. allahh looked away from the miracles done by the disciples because he has no such power to give to Muhammad.

First of all. Nobody has seen hell. Hell will be revealed on the day of judgement for everyone to see.

And on that Day hell will be brought [within sight]; on that Day man will remember [all that he did and failed to do]: but what will that remembrance avail him?

I don't know where you see yourself and other members of your dead family in hell. undecided

DOES THE QURAN SAY MUSLIM WILL FIRST GO INTO HELL BEFORE GOING INTO HEAVEN?

Yes, the quran says ALL muslims are first going to hell till the Resurrection Day when some will be removed to go to paradise. It is a lie. What qualifies you to go to hell first will make you remain there forever.

[Quran 3:185 Pickthal] Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned. Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant. The life of this world is but comfort of illusion.

What is your comment on the bold?

This following hadith confirms the above verse:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12 Number 770
Narated By Abu Huraira : The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. AT THAT TIME THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE as mere skeletons..............

If you still can give the above any other interpretations, it shows the level you have been islamically hypnotized. The truth remains that allahh has decreed that all muslims, including Muhammad will have a stopover in hell till the day of resurrection when some will be removed. Do you have mark of prostration? If not, you better rub your forehead harshly against the ground to have one, otherwise the angel will not remove you from hell.

Look at further confirmations from your quran:

[Quran 19:71-72 Shakir] And there is not one of you but shall come to it; this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord.
And We will deliver those who guarded (against evil), and We will leave the unjust therein on their knees.

All of you shall come to hell as a matter of allahh's decree, no changing. Then some who do good will be delivered and the rest left inside hell.

ANY OTHER QUOTE APART FROM THE ABOVE AMOUNTS TO CONTRADICTIONS!

Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by truthman2012(op): 5:34pm On May 14, 2015

truthman2012:
Rilwayne01

So you didn't read the disciples performing miracles. But you could read to criticize. Read the Book of Acts, you will see the disciples do what Muhammad could not do. allahh looked away from the miracles done by the disciples because he has no such power to give to Muhammad.

Yes, the quran says ALL muslims are first going to hell till the Resurrection Day when some will be removed to go to paradise. It is a lie. What qualifies you to go to hell first will make you remain there forever.

[Quran 3:185 Pickthal] Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have fairly earned. Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant. The life of this world is but comfort of illusion.

What is your comment on the bold?

This following hadith confirms the above verse:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12 Number 770
Narated By Abu Huraira : The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. AT THAT TIME THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE as mere skeletons..............

If you still can give the above any other interpretations, it shows the level you have been islamically hypnotized. The truth remains that allahh has decreed that all muslims, including Muhammad will have a stopover in hell till the day of resurrection when some will be removed. Do you have mark of prostration? If not, you better rub your forehead harshly against the ground to have one, otherwise the angel will not remove you from hell.

Look at further confirmations from your quran:

[Quran 19:71-72 Shakir] And there is not one of you but shall come to it; this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord.
And We will deliver those who guarded (against evil), and We will leave the unjust therein on their knees.

All of you shall come to hell as a matter of allahh's decree, no changing. Then some who do good will be delivered and the rest left inside hell.

ANY OTHER QUOTE APART FROM THE ABOVE AMOUNTS TO CONTRADICTIONS!

Re: Muslim Who Saw Jesus In Heaven by Nobody: 5:41pm On May 14, 2015

..like rugrats feasting over a trash-can of rotten fish..

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